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Old September 19th, 2008, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by babymomma View Post
Say you had a very good breeder, That bought ckc registered dogs, very good health records, vet checked for hips, elbows, temperment etc. And they bred them for people that didnt want them for showing , and wanted them simply for pet purposes..when the dogs had puppies he or she had them vet checked, dewormed and had there first set of needles and sold them simply as pets without being CKC or AKC(etc) registered. Sells them for say, $500 to very good homes that have been screened. Maybe they are doing it for a hobby and obviously doesnt care about the money and sells them for the price of just vet bills and food. Would that make these people BYBs.. Just because the dogs arent shown or registered.. I just dont understand what falls under the category of byb, I mean i know a breeder that does the above, and he started this because alot of people cannot afford a $1300 dog just because it has a registered name or its parents are show champions and really want a certain breed of dog and people obviously want healthy dog.. Oh and this guy im talking about, takes the dogs back that he rohomes for any reason at all so they dont ebd up in a bad home or shelter..
He most certainly is a BYBer!

The purpose of breeding should be to improve the breed. Period.

The testing you speak of (hips and elbows) is just a beginning and not something done by your vet. They are done by specialists in their field and need to be certified by either OFA or PENN. The reason for registering isn't so that you can charge more money - it is so that you can trace the heritage of the dog. Tracing that heritage is genetically important. By looking at the dogs pedigree you can see which dogs meet the standard and which dogs have been certified and cleared of crippling or fatal genetic diseases.

The whole reason for showing to be assure that the dog meets the standard as closely as possible. Read the standard for any breed. It talks about how every aspect of the dog should be "put together" so that it is best able to do it's job.

If you really do your homework - find a truly ethical breeder - and develope a relationship with said breeder, then $1300 is a small price to pay for a companion that you will have for 10 to 20 years with minimal health issues.

If you just want a dog, then going to a shelter or rescue group will provide you with a purebred dog of your choice that fits the description of what your friend is selling for $500.

BTW - I am betting money that your friend pays about $500 for the vetting of that litter of puppies he is selling for $500 a piece. So he most certainly IS making money. And considerably more then an ethical breeder as he certainly isn't spending near as much on the parents as an ethical breeder does.
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