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Old January 24th, 2008, 12:44 PM
Marcee2800 Marcee2800 is offline
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Originally Posted by Dingo View Post
I think that last response is a tad disingenuous. I believe that bad owners make bad dogs as well, but I also believe that there are other factors.

In the case of Pit Bulls there are two problems. Pit Bulls and their relatives were created as fighting dogs, so understandably they're often dog aggressive. They're often described as "dominant," "suspicious of strangers," "natural guard dogs" and other euphemisms designed to distract from their general tendency towards aggression. Breeders are partly to blame for not paying enough attention to temperament, or for encouraging this type of "dominance" and "suspicion."

Of course, well cared for, well trained dogs belonging to responsible owners are rarely a problem, but the image of pit bulls as scary and aggressive is unfortunately what draws some irresponsible people to them. Unfortunately, some people choose Pit Bulls (and Preso Canarios, and Rottweilers and similar breeds) precisely because of their scary image.

On the other hand, training can only go so far. Good luck training a Border Collie not to herd or a retriever not to fetch, for example.

My personal experience with Pit Bulls has been different from your own. Several years ago, two Pit Bulls who lived on my street escaped their yard and mauled a young girl, nearly killing her and tearing off most of her face in the process. Last month, a friend's dog was nearly killed, and her husband was attacked, by a Pit Bull belonging to their neighbour that got off its leash. I've also frequently seen Pit Bulls behaving aggressively towards other dogs, including my own, at dog parks and in other public areas.

Of course, everyone's experience will be different. That's why I provided statistics that show that Pit Bull breeds and mixes are disproportionately represented in serious attacks on human children and adults: more than 1100 of 2209 recorded attacks in the US and Canada between 1982 and 2006, according to one study. Compare that to just over 400 for Rottweilers and mixes, fewer than 100 for German Shepards and mixes, 11 for Dobermans, 1 for Poodles.

So while I have problems with vague breed-specific legislation, I also think it's foolish to take a head in the sand approach as well. Perhaps the legislation should be addressing issues like breeding, muzzling, leashing, containing and training requirements for breeds known to be problematic, and for their owners, rather than outright bans. Or maybe they're right, and certain breeds with a documented propensity to human aggression should not be propagated, at least not according to the current standard. Clearly one serious attack by a Poodle over 24 years can be seen as an anomaly; more than 1100 attacks by Pit Bulls in the same period, representing over 50% of recorded attacks, seems more like a trend.

If you think that "suspisious of stangers" and "natural guard dog" discribe a pitbull then you just have no clue and should really go meet a responsibly owned Pitbull, they LOVE people the only problem ever had with all the pitbulls we have rescued was knocking people over cause they were so excited to see them, nobody is a stanger to them and they really aren't good guard dogs. There were breed to be like this so that when they were in the pit and in unbelievable pain that there owner could pick them up and not have them be agressive if they showed agression to people in anyway to judges or spectators they would be shot and not breed. And as far as statistics go here are some for you the AMPT has passed the American Temperment Test at %83 when the average for all other breeds in %77 and they passed over the lab, retiriver and cocker spaniel. and in a 7 year study for dogs most likey to bit out of 100 different breeds they were 4th... FROM THE BOTTOM. and out of all dog bites in the United States they accounted for %1.89 so as far as statistics go they are in the AMPT favor.
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