Yikes, RodWBR, I'm glad I'm not your dog! Agree with consistency and loving and being Alpha, but really, rubbing their nose in it is rather archaic! A schedule, patience and paying attention will help more than rubbing their nose in it. Sorry, that's just nasty. Oh by the way, my dogs are all house trained and never had their nose rubbed in their urine or feces and were NEVER hit with a paper.
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