Go Back   Pet forum for dogs cats and humans - Pets.ca > Search Forums

Showing results 1 to 25 of 30
Search took 0.00 seconds.
Search: Posts Made By: Promethean
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 11th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 2,571
Posted By Promethean
"Corinthian" is the stolen handle of the odious...

"Corinthian" is the stolen handle of the odious internet youtube troll "Starwarsucks" and he goes around stealing the handles of other people.

The real Corinthian can be found at ...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 11th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
True, Millan does get some things correct. It's...

True, Millan does get some things correct. It's nothing ground breaking - for example Bob Barker was promoting spay/neuter long before Millan ever got involved with dogs.

As PMac notes, the...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 11th, 2009, 09:44 AM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
Cesar may not claim to be a trainer but that is...

Cesar may not claim to be a trainer but that is what he is and as any dog trainer will tell you the main part of the job is to educated the owner on how to train. Training is about modifying...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 11th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
The tale is alarmist because aside from...

The tale is alarmist because aside from exaggerating a potential danger, there is also no reason to think it is associated with what you like to call treat training. All you really know (or heard)...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 3rd, 2009, 10:06 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 2,813
Posted By Promethean
http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2006/0601-help_...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2006/0601-help_for_thunderphobic_dogs.htm

If we use the same line of thinking then this article referring to a Pennsylvania State University study suggests that...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 3rd, 2009, 09:41 PM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
Well, it was my scenario, one offered as a...

Well, it was my scenario, one offered as a counter to Lynne's skewed, alarmist tale. And it does have the benefit of being in accordance with our understanding of animal behaviour.

But you are...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 3rd, 2009, 05:16 PM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
Sullivan (I think he's Canadian) used to be on a...

Sullivan (I think he's Canadian) used to be on a show called Good dog!, though if I remember correctly in later seasons he was replaced by a trainer who was less about leash corrections and more...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 3rd, 2009, 11:27 AM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
And mine is based on various published research...

And mine is based on various published research looking exploring animals exposed to aversives in the presence of neutral objects. The animals learn to associate these objects (like a child in my...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 3rd, 2009, 11:00 AM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
[ Apparently, somebody does "know" when it...

[

Apparently, somebody does "know" when it is convenient for them
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 2nd, 2009, 01:34 AM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
How about this scenario: Brad jerks a dog...

How about this scenario:

Brad jerks a dog for no reason while the dog was looking at a child. The dog then associates punishment and pain with children. The result is a dog that will see a child...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 1st, 2009, 11:42 PM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
It really doesn't matter what he says; it is by...

It really doesn't matter what he says; it is by definition aversive and he is trying to use it as punishment.
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 1st, 2009, 11:28 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 6,021
Posted By Promethean
It's a lie because according to Sullivan,...

It's a lie because according to Sullivan, training with food makes a dog fat. He's not arguing that overeating makes a dog fat, but rather that training with food makes them fat. This is clearly...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 1st, 2009, 02:51 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 6,021
Posted By Promethean
It is a lie that food makes a dog fat, a lie...

It is a lie that food makes a dog fat, a lie perpetuated by those who find it necessary to justify their backwards training methods.

I've seen the so-called street safety and they are the very...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 1st, 2009, 01:24 PM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
Cesar is another in a long line of trainers who...

Cesar is another in a long line of trainers who use force to get their point across. His view of wolves is right out of mexican folklore, his application of this folklore to dogs is unjustified and...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 1st, 2009, 10:49 AM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
It's Victoria Stillwell. Unfortunately for every...

It's Victoria Stillwell. Unfortunately for every educated trainer like Victoria or Stanley Coren there are dozens of Pattisons, Millan's, Martin (Dog Borstal) and Sullivans telling people you need...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 1st, 2009, 10:38 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 6,021
Posted By Promethean
I had seen his commercial a while back and...

I had seen his commercial a while back and managed to get a handle on his DVD and it's the same old jerk and choke approach that other less informed trainers use. In his DVD we get the usual lies...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior May 1st, 2009, 10:27 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 2,571
Posted By Promethean
First thing you need to do is stop pretending you...

First thing you need to do is stop pretending you have some insight into the dogs motivations and specially his emotions or lack thereof. All you really know is that under certain circumstances the...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 20th, 2009, 12:07 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,218
Posted By Promethean
I think that rabbits and dogs make a bad...

I think that rabbits and dogs make a bad combination, specially if your dog shows any predatory behavior towards small animals, birds, etc. He would be better off with a cat. I've found that most...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 16th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,266
Posted By Promethean
Can you be more specific about what you found...

Can you be more specific about what you found appealing about this "treat training" seminar? What was different about it? And is that really how they advertised it - Treat Training?
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 16th, 2009, 02:42 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,266
Posted By Promethean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU I...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU

I think when one of the guys that was responsible for giving us and popularizing the concept tells us it's outdated, then it probably is.

LD Mech...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 15th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,266
Posted By Promethean
The term behavioral training is over 40 years old...

The term behavioral training is over 40 years old and it does exclude food rewards nor markers and bridges. A more honest label to describe would be dominance, traditional trainer even motivational....
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 15th, 2009, 03:55 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,266
Posted By Promethean
I found it funny because all dog training...

I found it funny because all dog training involves changing/obtaining behaviors. This makes all trainers 'behavioural'... it's a bit like finding an 'electrical electrician.'
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 15th, 2009, 01:16 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,266
Posted By Promethean
That's great that you picked up something new but...

That's great that you picked up something new but I have to laugh at your terminology; everyone is a behavioral trainer.
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 13th, 2009, 08:09 PM
Replies: 364
Views: 56,435
Posted By Promethean
A clicker won't stop a fight because a clicker is...

A clicker won't stop a fight because a clicker is not an interrupt signal. Anyone trying to use a clicker to stop a fight, knows nothing about clicker training.

A clicker trainer would never...
Forum: Dog training - dog behavior April 13th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 854
Posted By Promethean
Remember to keep your foot movements consistent...

Remember to keep your foot movements consistent for the left/right/about/stop. Practice alone, until it's second nature.

For crowding, try walking in left leaning circles, small diameter at first...
Showing results 1 to 25 of 30

 

Forum Terms of Use

  • All Bulletin Board Posts are for personal/non-commercial use only.
  • Self-promotion and/or promotion in general is prohibited.
  • Debate is healthy but profane and deliberately rude posts will be deleted.
  • Posters not following the rules will be banned at the Admins' discretion.
  • Read the Full Forum Rules

Forum Details

  • Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
    vBulletin Optimisation by vB Optimise (Reduced on this page: MySQL 0%).
  • All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:59 AM.