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Tharamis July 17th, 2014 10:19 PM

Mouth Issue
 
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Hi everyone,

We have an estimated 6yr and guess Mastiff Lab mix, about a week and half ago I noticed some redness around the little bumps that are in their mouth on the back of their lips. It wasn't bothering him so we held off on the vet as he was wrestling with our 2yr lab and thought he may have just irritated it.

I went out of town for about 5 days and when I got home the redness has spread further. We have a vet appointment setup for this weekend but wanted to see if anyone has seen this before and if I should go see the vet right away.

See attached pictures. Black lips are the good side and what they normally look like. Red lips are obviously the side we are having issues with.

It does seem to have some scabbing in areas (you can see a little in the pic) but doesn't seem to bother him at all. Although he doesn't like me touch it. He has been eating fine.

Any thoughts?

Tharamis July 17th, 2014 10:25 PM

err wow those pics came in big. see if i can edit and resize them.

hazelrunpack July 17th, 2014 10:28 PM

If you can resize to something 1000 pixels or less on the long end they should work :thumbs up

Tharamis July 17th, 2014 10:29 PM

There we go. Sorry about that.

hazelrunpack July 17th, 2014 10:38 PM

Does it still not bother him? I've never seen anything exactly like that, but I wonder if it's something like thrush? It's probably not something that needs to be seen on an emergency basis, unless it's markedly worse tomorrow or you see signs of it starting on your lab, too, but I'm glad you've got an appointment this weekend!

Pls, let us know what the vet says about it--very curious as to what it might be.

And welcome to the board, Tharamis!

Tharamis July 17th, 2014 10:48 PM

Thanks Hazel! Nope doesn't seem to bothering him at all but turns from me when I start moving his lips to look at it. Not something he really did before.

Nothing on our other Lab (first thing I looked at after I saw it had spread). I will definitely keep you all posted. Thanks for the quick response. I am going to do some research on thrust now. Thanks for the home work ;)

One other thing you can't see in the picture is that lip is now sagging and other is not.

marko July 18th, 2014 08:56 AM

Welcome Tharamis! It's 'thrush' btw.
Glad you are seeing a vet for this especially since dooger won't let you get too close (that's often a sign of discomfort).
Good luck:fingerscr

Barkingdog July 18th, 2014 09:42 AM

What kind of water is your dog drinking tap or bottled water and do use dish soap to wash his bowls ? You should try to think of anything your dog could had gotten into or chewed on so the vet will have a better idea of what is going on. Poor puppy!

Dog Dancer July 18th, 2014 11:43 AM

Welcome to the board. I sure hope the vet is able to help your boy out and that it's nothing major to worry about. Please do keep us posted. Um, full on pics of both pups would be great!

MaxaLisa July 19th, 2014 12:39 AM

Might be lip fold pyoderma?

[url]http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/archive-5-health-wellness/89505-lip-fold-pyoderma.html[/url]

Tharamis July 19th, 2014 07:56 PM

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Thanks everyone for you great responses! Should have the news tomorrow.

[QUOTE=MaxaLisa;1067198]Might be lip fold pyoderma?

[url]http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/archive-5-health-wellness/89505-lip-fold-pyoderma.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Wow this looks really close to what his looks like like. I will definitely research this and take it into the vet with me. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Dog Dancer;1067188]Welcome to the board. I sure hope the vet is able to help your boy out and that it's nothing major to worry about. Please do keep us posted. Um, full on pics of both pups would be great![/QUOTE]

Like any dog owner... ask and you shall receive. Brindle is Marcus (Mastiff Lab Mix), with the issue. Max is a 130lb Silver Lab. The poodle in the pic is my sisters.

hazelrunpack July 19th, 2014 08:40 PM

What a beautiful fur-family you have, Tharamis! :lovestruck:

Dog Dancer July 21st, 2014 10:07 AM

Oh my such beautiful pups all three! Is your lab really that much bigger than the Mastiff X??? He looks huge! Such beautiful faces. How did the vet trip go? Any diagnosis?

Barkingdog July 21st, 2014 10:23 AM

I love the pic of all 3 dogs looking into the camera . How did you get them to do that ? They're all beautiful .

Tharamis July 23rd, 2014 09:05 AM

Thanks Everyone for your great responses to this Thread. Really appreciate the comments! Sorry for the late response as life as been crazy last few days! Well the winner is....

[QUOTE=MaxaLisa;1067198]Might be lip fold pyoderma?

[url]http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/archive-5-health-wellness/89505-lip-fold-pyoderma.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Ding Ding Ding... we have a Winner!! :thumbs up

[QUOTE=Dog Dancer;1067225]Oh my such beautiful pups all three! Is your lab really that much bigger than the Mastiff X??? He looks huge! Such beautiful faces. How did the vet trip go? Any diagnosis?[/QUOTE]

Part of it is Camera Angle but really the Lab is bigger then the Mastiff Mix.

[QUOTE=Barkingdog;1067227]I love the pic of all 3 dogs looking into the camera . How did you get them to do that ? They're all beautiful .[/QUOTE]

TREATS!!! :D

Dog Dancer July 23rd, 2014 11:31 AM

Sure hope the lip heals up now that you know what it is. Did the vet supply a cream or did you buy the diaper rash cream??

Tharamis July 23rd, 2014 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=Dog Dancer;1067269]Sure hope the lip heals up now that you know what it is. Did the vet supply a cream or did you buy the diaper rash cream??[/QUOTE]

Vet said it shouldn't take too long. He gave us EnteDerm Ointment and apply it to his lip twice a day.

hazelrunpack July 23rd, 2014 09:07 PM

Great news, Tharamis!! :thumbs up Hope it clears up quickly now!

Tharamis July 24th, 2014 08:10 AM

[QUOTE=Tharamis;1067275]Vet said it shouldn't take too long. He gave us EnteDerm Ointment and apply it to his lip twice a day.[/QUOTE]

Quick update and advise for everyone.

The EnteDerm Ointment comes in a tube and when we first opened it the Ointment was very clear and runny. We thought that must be how it is. However Two nights ago it started to become milky and in the AM I thought what the hell and really moved the stuff in the tube around for a bit, squeezing it at each end and mixing it up. It's now really thick and and mucusy greenish yellow. It was a Dramatic increase in effect. Although we were seeing the lip get better. Only three treatments now after I mixed it and the swelling is down the color is coming back to his lip.

[B][I][COLOR="Red"]Just FYI - You always hear about mixing your liquid medicines... well mix your Ointments too!![/COLOR][/I][/B]

MaxaLisa July 24th, 2014 07:59 PM

I've had that problem with the entederm too - it's great stuff, hope it clears everything up completely! So glad it's already getting better!


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