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minmin12 May 13th, 2013 11:43 AM

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I have all the tools and the know how to do. I even have a trainer, but won't work with Moses and I until I have him under control. He is unstable her words. Now what could I do. I am to take him out alone twice daily around people his attire includes a Martingale Collar/Gentle Leader. No people. I am not to yell, gently pull up on lead and say NO praise with treat ( he has tummy issue trying to fix) words and loving. Somebody please help as I am all alone with him. I need him to stop lunging and going ballistic when either there is a dog or human. When he does these bad no's no's I am supposed to pull on the lead so his eyes meet mine and say NO. Mommy frustrated and Moses not a happy camper, the word no has become my second language while on walks with him. I could not make the entire 20 min as Harley, Moses and I had gone for a long walk this morning. Did I mention Moses is on two leashes now. Please I need advice so that I could turn Moses into the loving dog that he is in the home. He as been in one fight already this dog thot he wanted to play. She then had gone into attack mode and I went into panic mode, owner home Harley went into protection mode, nbr came out with leash. This dog would have killed Moses have I painted a good picture. I really need help, I am losing or already have lost my mind unable to figure that one out. :cry::ca:

Loki Love May 13th, 2013 04:51 PM

I suggest you read up on BAT : [url]http://functionalrewards.com/[/url]

If you continually surpass the dog's threshold then no learning can be accomplished.

I would question any 'trainer' who refuses to work with you until you have your dog under control.. isn't the point of a trainer to HELP you? Maybe reach out to one of the BAT trainers listed on the site and they can help you find someone in your local area or at the very least, try and mentor you via emails, etc.

Barkingdog May 13th, 2013 05:11 PM

I am not sure what a Martingale Collar/Gentle Leader looks like, but my last dog wore a Gentle Leader and he was not able to pull me . I know the Gentle Leader has to be put on correctly to work , maybe you could have someone see if you're putting the Martingale Collar/Gentle Leader correctly.

minmin12 May 14th, 2013 06:20 AM

[QUOTE=Barkingdog;1057605]I am not sure what a Martingale Collar/Gentle Leader looks like, but my last dog wore a Gentle Leader and he was not able to pull me . I know the Gentle Leader has to be put on correctly to work , maybe you could have someone see if you're putting the Martingale Collar/Gentle Leader correctly.[/QUOTE] It is on correct:)

minmin12 May 14th, 2013 06:21 AM

[QUOTE=Loki Love;1057604]I suggest you read up on BAT : [url]http://functionalrewards.com/[/url]

If you continually surpass the dog's threshold then no learning can be accomplished.

I would question any 'trainer' who refuses to work with you until you have your dog under control.. isn't the point of a trainer to HELP you? Maybe reach out to one of the BAT trainers listed on the site and they can help you find someone in your local area or at the very least, try and mentor you via emails, etc.[/QUOTE] Thank you going to find out if there is one :highfive:

minmin12 May 14th, 2013 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=Loki Love;1057604]I suggest you read up on BAT : [url]http://functionalrewards.com/[/url]

If you continually surpass the dog's threshold then no learning can be accomplished.

I would question any 'trainer' who refuses to work with you until you have your dog under control.. isn't the point of a trainer to HELP you? Maybe reach out to one of the BAT trainers listed on the site and they can help you find someone in your local area or at the very least, try and mentor you via emails, etc.[/QUOTE] I have emailed them, I am not sure what you mean by surpass dog's threshold could you explain please and thank you:rolleyes:

pattymac May 14th, 2013 10:41 AM

If your dog is already acting out, lunging, barking etc then he's over his threshold and you're likely not going to have any affect.

If you're a block away from someone and he's still listening to you and not acting psycho, great if they're 1/2 block away and he goes off then you know to start at a block distance. That's being over/under threshold in a nutshell

minmin12 May 15th, 2013 07:34 AM

Thanks
 
[QUOTE=pattymac;1057629]If your dog is already acting out, lunging, barking etc then he's over his threshold and you're likely not going to have any affect.

If you're a block away from someone and he's still listening to you and not acting psycho, great if they're 1/2 block away and he goes off then you know to start at a block distance. That's being over/under threshold in a nutshell[/QUOTE] he does this sometimes when near or not usually very good. But when really close:evil: that is when he pulls and I have to pull up on his gentle lead and say no wait for that person to continue, calm him down as he is panting once calm I say good dog and give him lots of loving. Do to his tummy issue I am unable to treat him:ca::grouphug:

minmin12 May 15th, 2013 07:36 AM

thanks
 
[QUOTE=minmin12;1057621]I have emailed them, I am not sure what you mean by surpass dog's threshold could you explain please and thank you:rolleyes:[/QUOTE] I received no reply :cry:

hazelrunpack May 15th, 2013 09:14 AM

[QUOTE=minmin12;1057657]I received no reply :cry:[/QUOTE]

pattymac replied here:
[QUOTE=pattymac;1057629]If your dog is already acting out, lunging, barking etc then he's over his threshold and you're likely not going to have any affect.

If you're a block away from someone and he's still listening to you and not acting psycho, great if they're 1/2 block away and he goes off then you know to start at a block distance. That's being over/under threshold in a nutshell[/QUOTE]

pattymac May 15th, 2013 11:59 AM

It takes lots of practice, you can also use a toy when he handles someone coming close. Take him out several times a day, doesn't have to be for long.

Loki Love May 15th, 2013 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=minmin12;1057657]I received no reply :cry:[/QUOTE]

Give them a few days to reply.. I'm sure they are busy people :)


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