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Emie&Mila February 17th, 2011 06:26 PM

PLEASE help fast! URGENT
 
:stork-baby:A rabbit just had a litter of babies in the last couple of days and she is throwing one out of the nest! It has been put back twice if she does it again should I take it and try to bottle feed? If so how do I do that, I have bottle fed puppies but it has been a while. Do I do it the same way the same amount of times! Please I dont want this baby to die!:cry:

BMDLuver February 17th, 2011 06:53 PM

she wants to let it die, she is throwing it out because it is sick and she does not want her other babies sick. baby bunnies have no way of surviving with human intervention until at least 2 months of age. otherwise your choice is to take it to be pts at a vet's office. this is natures natural selection and something is wrong with this baby.

Emie&Mila February 17th, 2011 07:18 PM

I looked up some instructions on the internet and it gave me instructions on how to bottle feed, what to, how many times of day, and how much. I am going to atleast try. I checked on it again though and she has left it in the nest. I am not just going to let leave it for death. I dont have any vets in my area that specailizes in bunnies. Hopefully she keeps it though!:fingerscr

rainbow February 17th, 2011 07:21 PM

Nature is cruel sometimes so I would leave the rabbit alone.

BMDLuver February 17th, 2011 07:23 PM

ok, seriously, you are endangering the rest of the litters lives, if she dumps it out, leave it or feed it yourself, do not put it back again but it will not make it so don't be surprised when it doesn't. Bunnies eat a specific formula that is extremely expensive, only comes from an exotic vet in powder form and obviously you won't have available. I get the wanting to try but I'm not clueless, I dealt with wild animals daily as well as domestic.

happycats February 17th, 2011 07:28 PM

I feel the same as the OP, I couldn't just sit by and watch the baby die!!! Keep searching the net, do the best you can. I think they are like kittens, and you have to stimulate them after each feeding ( rub privates gently with a soft wet warm cloth) .

I wish you and the wee baby the best of luck, go baby go!!:pray:

happycats February 17th, 2011 07:31 PM

Here is how you make your own bunny formula

[url]http://www.ehow.com/how_6192263_make-baby-rabbit-food-formulas.html[/url]

aslan February 17th, 2011 07:31 PM

Unfortunately BMD is right,if the mother is pushing the baby out then there is something wrong with it. It may not be something as simple as you would wish,,it could be deformed internally,,brain damage,, etc etc. I may actually be cruel to prolong its life.

rainbow February 17th, 2011 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=aslan;986365]Unfortunately BMD is right,if the mother is pushing the baby out then there is something wrong with it. It may not be something as simple as you would wish,,it could be deformed internally,,brain damage,, etc etc. I may actually be cruel to prolong its life.[/QUOTE]

I agree as well ....if it was the whole litter that was abandoned because something happened to the mother that would be a different story but since it's the mother that is pushing the baby out it means something is wrong with it.

happycats February 17th, 2011 07:40 PM

Don't flame me, but what's with all this negativity :( I know it's grim, but at least try and give advise so she can try to save it :shrug:

How many people have kept and saved the runt of so many dog and cat litters??!!! and how many runts grow up to be beautiful and healthy adults??!! To just give up and let it die is wrong! You have to do all you can, and if it dies anyway, well at least you tried......and didn't just sit buy and watch it die a slow painful death !

Some times they push one out simply because they don't have enough of milk or teats to feed them!

I don't know but I would try and help the baby regardless !

aslan February 17th, 2011 07:44 PM

happycats it was suggested to take the baby to a vet if for no other reason than to put it down peacefully. If it was a matter of milk or teets the mother wouldn't keep pushing the same one out. Do you recall a member here who did exactly what this young lady is trying to do, only she did it with a kitten,,turned out there was something seriously wrong with the cat and it attacked her several times viciously..The final attack the poor woman seriously injured had to manually kill the cat all the while bleeding and crying.

Serious advice,,take the poor thing to a vet.

BMDLuver February 17th, 2011 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=happycats;986375]Don't flame me, but what's with all this negativity :( I know it's grim, but at least try and give advise so she can try to save it :shrug:

How many people have kept and saved the runt of so many dog and cat litters??!!! and how many runts grow up to be beautiful and healthy adults??!! To just give up and let it die is wrong! You have to do all you can, and if it dies anyway, well at least you tried......and didn't just sit buy and watch it die a slow painful death !

Some times they push one out simply because they don't have enough of milk or teats to feed them!

I don't know but I would try and help the baby regardless ![/QUOTE]

Happycats, not being negative, being realistic and informed. I have seen dogs do this, cats do this, bunnies do this, squirrels in fall do this with second litter. It is natures way and they do not survive. I have intervened with puppies and seen health issues that were neurological in damage, same with kittens, when it is selection of one, it is for a reason. A few day old wild rabbit cannot survive and will die a slow death. I would love if it would make it. The baby needs heat, feeding every hour and stimulation, too much heat and you cook it, too much food and it's stomach explodes, not enough stimulation and it becomes impacted...... I am thinking of the baby rabbit here, not of the desire to save the life. With me, the animal always comes first. I may seem harsh but honestly the animal is my number one concern.

Dr Lee February 17th, 2011 08:00 PM

I do think that it is worth trying. It is true that sometimes mothers in the wild will push out offspring that has something wrong with it. However this is not always the case and I certainly know many "exceptions to the rule." If the rabbit came in contact with something that gave an unusual smell that the mother can pick up - it could be something as simple as that.

There should be rabbit formula available at a pet store. Keeping him warm, regularly fed and separated are good ideas. Due to the stress of being separated at this age, along with the potential of an underlying problem - the prognosis would be guarded. But if I ever have a guarded prognosis, I hope someone gives me a chance too. JMHO:pawprint:

aslan February 17th, 2011 08:08 PM

Thank you Dr. Lee,,figured better to get a professional opinion than not.

Emie&Mila February 17th, 2011 08:25 PM

Thanks for everyones input and especailly Dr. Lee. I will check out the links, The mother hasnt pushed it out again so hopefully she wont anymore:fingerscr. I am going to keep an eye on them though and will intervene if necessary.

Emie&Mila March 4th, 2011 10:28 AM

Oh I just noticed something, the rabbit wasnt wild. It was my brothers pet rabbit. The person he bought it from said it was a male and then it had babies like a day after he brought it home.

The good news is she didnt reject it anymore after that last time. It is very pretty white and is hopping around now.

Frenchy March 4th, 2011 10:35 AM

[QUOTE=Emie&Mila;990713]Oh I just noticed something, the rabbit wasnt wild. It was my brothers pet rabbit.

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You found a rabbit and you find out , 2 weeks later, that this rabbit is your brother's ? :confused:

kathryn March 4th, 2011 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=Frenchy;990714]You found a rabbit and you find out , 2 weeks later, that this rabbit is your brother's ? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Also, wild rabbits look completely different than pet rabbits.. So your brother bought a rabbit that was supposed to be a male, then was a pregnant female, then it got loose in your yard to have babies, and everyone totally failed to notice that it was his rabbit? :confused: Or that the rabbit probably looked nothing like the wild rabbits native to North America? :confused:

For everyones sake, please give these babies to someone who knows what they are doing when they are old enough because all I can see is 20 thousand threads from you about how you can't tell how they are boys or girls and then they are having babies then they are not then they died or maybe they didn't. There are probably rescue groups, 4-H clubs, vet offices, or SPCA shelters around you that you can try and call to drop them off at when they are probably 4-8 weeks.

Emie&Mila March 7th, 2011 04:05 PM

Umm NO. I just noticed that you all thought the rabbit was wild. I knew the entire time that it was my brothers rabbit. He is my older brother about 30 plenty capable of taking care of a rabbit. It was never loose. The person he got it from told him it was a male and he took his word for it, like the next day it had babies. Im very aware what wild rabbits look like considering there are lots of them around my home but thanks for the sarcasm.

kathryn March 7th, 2011 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=Emie&Mila;991992]Umm NO. I just noticed that you all thought the rabbit was wild. I knew the entire time that it was my brothers rabbit. He is my older brother about 30 plenty capable of taking care of a rabbit. It was never loose. The person he got it from told him it was a male and he took his word for it, like the next day it had babies. Im very aware what wild rabbits look like considering there are lots of them around my home but thanks for the sarcasm.[/QUOTE]

Information like that is important and should be shared in the first post. There are COMPLETELY different protocols when dealing with domestic rabbits! If you had shared that information the FIRST TIME around, that would have helped alot!

I don't know what your deal is, but you are driving everyone insane with constantly changing your stories. Either way, I'm done dealing with you. Next time please make an effort to describe the situation more accurately the first time around or atleast correct people who are taking the time to help you. There are completely different things you do for this kind of situation since it is a domestic rabbit and not a wild one.

Melinda March 7th, 2011 05:19 PM

glad the little one is doing well and hopping around, does your brother raise rabbits? or its just one pet?

Emie&Mila March 11th, 2011 03:44 PM

It was a pet for my nephews. I guess I could have said it as domestic but, I would not in no way or manner stick my hand back into a wild rabbits nest to put a baby rabbit back. Im not stupid, I would get injured! I didnt ask for your help in general Kathryn I actually dont care what you have to say anymore. I just happen to check back her out of curiosity of what all had been going on I have no intention on making anymore threads here because unless everything is explained perfectly you all trip out!

If you dont understand something, ask nicely dont jump all over the person. I have actually found another forum that I enjoy I can say what I want and I dont have to reread my thread or post 10 times to make sure no one can take it the wrong way. Yea there dissagreemens but it gets worked out in a friendly way not hostile.

I think that you all need to chill out and work with people who dont quit understand or have different opinions and not jump all over them, you act like children. I believe that the moderators need to step up a bit and do there job because shutting a thread down because its in the wrong section doesnt seem quit enough to me. These "animal lovers" who get offensive and have to grip someone else out just to get satisfaction for the day or make themselves feel better need to be called out. Something needs to be done about this forum!

Again BYE BYE... I hope you all have a great argument filled, offensive time on this forum!


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