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Goldens4Ever February 10th, 2008 02:10 AM

Great Life "Rubicon" Dog Food
 
I stumbled across this line of food tonight. It is called [B][I]Great Life "Rubicon" [/I][/B]dog food, which is grain-free & potato-free. Anyone ever heard of it? This company makes some [I]interesting[/I] statements about the use of potato in dog foods.

[url]http://www.miraclemix.com/rubicondog.html[/url]

rainbow February 11th, 2008 02:37 AM

I have heard of it but didn't think it had enough meat in it so didn't check it any closer. Very interesting about the potato claim though.

rainbow February 11th, 2008 02:47 AM

I just did a search and found this statement from [url]http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1[/url] ...

[QUOTE][B]Acrylamide[/B]
This is a carcinogenic compound formed at cooking temperatures of about 250F in foods containing certain sugars and the amino acid asparagine (found in large amounts in potatoes and cereal grains). It is formed in a chemical process called the Maillard reaction.4, 5 Most dry pet foods contain cereal grains or potatoes, and they are processed at high temperatures (200300F at high pressure during extrusion; baked foods are cooked at well over 500F); these are perfect conditions for the Maillard reaction. In fact, the Maillard reaction is considered desirable in the production of pet food because it imparts a palatable taste, even though it reduces the bioavailability of some amino acids, including taurine and lysine.6 The content and potential effects of acrylamide formation in pet foods are unknown. [/QUOTE]

rainbow February 11th, 2008 03:21 AM

According to this website ([url]http://www.naturalnews.com/021428.html[/url]) acrylamide is also found in sweet potatoes and yams are an ingredient in Great Life Rubicon food. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]Acrylamides also form in other starches, such as toasted oats, flour, or sweet potatoes. Being organic doesn't seem to affect the presence of acrylamides. [/QUOTE]

Love4himies February 11th, 2008 12:22 PM

Orijen is cooked at low temps to avoid this:

[url]http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/faq/#Potatoes[/url]

Love4himies February 11th, 2008 12:23 PM

I was just thinking does this mean we have a carcinogen when we cook potatoes too?

CearaQC February 11th, 2008 12:31 PM

Hubby's nephew is working on his masters degree in Bio Chemistry. I'll pass along the question and see what he can find out.

According to the Wiki site on Acrylamide, that compound isn't present from boiling. Just baking and frying. :shrug:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide[/url]

[quote]However, studies in human populations have failed to produce consistent results, and it remains unclear whether this is due to a reduced risk in a natural setting or the methodological difficulties inherent in such studies. For example, it might be difficult to isolate the effects of acrylamide because it is so ubiquitous in Western diets.[/quote]

rainbow February 11th, 2008 12:33 PM

[QUOTE=Love4himies;545135]Orijen is cooked at low temps to avoid this:

[url]http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/faq/#Potatoes[/url][/QUOTE]


Yeah, Orijen is cooked at 195 Celsius. :thumbs up

Kinguni February 11th, 2008 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=rainbow;545143]Yeah, Orijen is cooked at 195 Celsius. :thumbs up[/QUOTE]

90C actually. Even better.:thumbs up

rainbow February 11th, 2008 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=Kinguni;545227]90C actually. Even better.:thumbs up[/QUOTE]

Oooopps....you are right. It is 195 degrees Fahrenheit. Thanks for correcting me. :thumbs up

gypsy_girl February 12th, 2008 07:29 AM

So is GO! Natural! (cooked at 90 degrees)

PetTrustCC August 14th, 2011 12:40 PM

@Rainbow - Great Life Rubicon food -
 
[QUOTE=rainbow;544966]According to this website ([url]http://www.naturalnews.com/021428.html[/url]) acrylamide is also found in sweet potatoes and yams are an ingredient in Great Life Rubicon food. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Sweet Potatoes and Yams are not the same. Yams are in Rubicon. Sweet Potatoes are not.

[url]http://homecooking.about.com/od/howtocookvegetables/a/sweetpotatodiff.htm[/url]

"The true yam is the tuber of a tropical vine (Dioscorea batatas) and is not even distantly related to the sweet potato."


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