Loki December 1st, 2004, 11:51 AM The family's Chocolate Lab (That they now say is a pit bull), bit their teens ear.
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2004/12/01/750690.html
mastifflover December 1st, 2004, 11:56 AM There is one of those ticking time bombs again. It probably was a lab but that would not get headlines. They only figured out it was a bit bull now that it bit someone but the dog is 11 months old are they blind or just stupid. I guess they called the village idiot to help with the identification. We all know any dog that bites is a pit.
Schwinn December 1st, 2004, 12:09 PM Doesn't this line right here say something as well?
"It didn't seem to understand and tried to cuddle with my son."
As in, it didn't attack him, it didn't understand what it did? That's my interpretation, but then I'm just a stupid owner who will defend the dog no matter what. Also, did he have an earring? I once had one of my dogs pull me across the floor by the earring when he nipped me while playing. But it wasn't a pitbull. Oh wait, it must have been, it nipped me!
(This is not making my rotten day any better.)
Loki December 1st, 2004, 12:32 PM They've yet to make a correction about the "Cambridge pitbull", and are still reporting questionable pit bull reports.( Which, by the way, if you follow the link I posted on the Cambridge attack thread- The story is now chopped in half, asking for $10 for a transcript)
It seems to me that a story about a Lab( turned pit bull) owner being bitten, is ample opportunity to point out that the last 'pitbull' attack reported was not a pitbull.
Like was said on another thread: If we don't call them on it, this will continue.
Global backed off a bit, after a pummelling.
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pitbulliest December 1st, 2004, 12:46 PM Regardless of what kind of dog it was..I wonder what really happened. If the dog was ok all this time (was it?) why did it bite him out of nowhere? Was this dog mentally unstable? Was there something that happened that don't know? It is pretty sad I don't think we can deny that...but I really wish I knew what happened here..there seems to be alot of ear grabbing by dogs lately..whats up?
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Mom_Of_Two_Dogs December 1st, 2004, 01:11 PM Must be one of those were-pit bulls; they're another breed until midnight when they attack someone :rolleyes:
Having said that, I hope the boy makes a full recovery soon. I think there's more to the story than what has been reported.
LavenderRott December 1st, 2004, 01:15 PM I hear that the boy had multiple ear peircings.
Schwinn December 1st, 2004, 01:22 PM I hear that the boy had multiple ear peircings.
Not blaming him, but I wonder if that was it? I've had several dogs when they were pups jump and nip my ears when they were playing, just like I see them do with other pups. As I said before, I had one pup get hooked on my earring (in my younger days), and started to pull. Especially given the dogs demeaner after the "attack", I have a feeling that's what happened here.
Luvmypit December 1st, 2004, 01:50 PM You know what bugs me is that they are so quick to shun their dog afterwards. I mean I don't know if I would put a puppy down for something that he most likely didn't do purposely. Although the puppy did so some serious damage its unfortunante no one will bother to look at what caused him to react in that way and even if they determined that it was the earrings do you think anyone would here about it. My dog chews on my rings, doesn't bite my skin but likes to lick and pull on it. So I can see how a PUPPY could mistake the earring as a toy or pretty shinny object.
I feel sorry for the dog and the boy.
Loki December 1st, 2004, 02:27 PM If they actually reported the full story in these incidents, maybe some future incidents( any breed) could be prevented. Maybe some parents would think-twice before leaving a child unattended with a dog, or teach them not to rough-house etc.
Unfortunately, many people call that blaming the victim.
Growing up, my best friend's little brother,was blind in one eye( huge scar down the side of his face). His mom was watching him, as he played on the floor, and the phone rang. In a rush, she turned to answer the phone. An automatic reaction. That few seconds was enough time for the child to crawl over to the table and pull on a lamp cord. The lamp fell on him and shattered.
Was she a bad parent? Actually, she was one of the most responsible, and loving women I've ever met. She just had a momentary lapse. We all have them, more often than we realize.(We just get lucky sometimes, and don't get burned)
She felt very guilty about it, all her life. (She told me that the pain of that day comes rushing back, every time she sees her son squint) Whenever she saw someone with a child, she would tell that story. If someone had told it to her, she may not have placed the lamp where she did.
I'm sure that many of the people that are victims of dog-attacks are very responsible and loving people. They would protect their children anyway they could- but only if they know what to protect them from.
That is what really bugs me about the whole "obviously it is the breed" thing that the media keeps perpetuating.
Mom_Of_Two_Dogs December 1st, 2004, 02:27 PM Just fired off an email to both addresses.
Schwinn December 1st, 2004, 03:57 PM What's really sad is the people who own the dog probably would not do anything about it if they still thought it was a lab. But they believe the media hype, so they think they've got a vicious dog, despite the fact the dog was trying to "snuggle" with him, by the father's own admission. Not only that, I've said it before, I'll say it again:If this dog was really attacking, does anyone not think that there would probably be a lot more damage? If he just turned on the boy, would he not continue to attack? This is sad all around. I hope the OSPCA does the same as they did in Cambridge and verify the breed. The owners are the ones saying, "We could tell she was a pitbull by the way she looked". :mad:
Anyone have any idea where the dog is? I'd love to see a picture.
mastifflover December 1st, 2004, 04:16 PM Not a clue but I agree if it was attacking it would have continued. I also think it was a puppy playing with the earring. Last time I had a puppy she used to always try and grab my earrings not to hurt me she was playing.
seeker December 1st, 2004, 06:59 PM There are a few things about this story that makes little sense.
Jason thought the dog was giving him a morning kiss."My son pushed him away and screamed" ."he bit my ear off . What with no struggle just licking and off goes the ear . Does the dog have razorblades for teeth so that in one bite off comes the ear .
"Then ran into his bedroom and closed the door" The father then says he called 911 . Then says "the dog tried to cuddle with my son" When was this after the boy ran to his room and closed the door , or did the dog try to cuddle the boy right after he ripped the ear off , where was the ear at this point in time ?
He returned to school on Monday with a small bandage ????? He is healing quite well don't you think ? It happened 6 days before .
Bear was a 30kilo puppy ? a 66 lb pitbull puppy ? My dog grew until he was about 16 months how big was this dog going to be ?
Bear will be euthanized . What veterinarian because it would be interesting for someone to take a look at this Chocolate Lab turned Pitbull .
I am sorry if this sounds calous . I do feel for the boy and the family but many things don't add up .
Had anyone heard of this before today ? If not why did it take this long to leak out .
Last week we have a pitbull attack corrected to be a great dane mix attack and now a week later a lab corrected to be a pitbull attack . What gives with this ?
There has to be more to it than what we are reading .
OdinAndAlan December 1st, 2004, 10:48 PM Seems to me that most of these attack stories have one thing in common. The lack of info on what was happening before the attack. There must have been something that made the dog bite. For example, my dog will give some sort of warning before biting. If you're pulling on his ears or tail or something, he'll first put his teeth on you. If you still don't let go then he'll bite down. So I don't really believe that a dog who has been well behaved (relatively) could suddenly turn and harm somebody. It's been said before but I think it needs saying again, THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO THE STORY!!
Schwinn December 2nd, 2004, 10:49 AM I remember when I was a kid, I pulled out a friend's earing, and it was fairly easy. If this kid had multiple piercings, I have no doubt that a dog could jump up, catch a couple, and the weight pull them out. I also find it interesting that this wasn't news until it was a pitbull. Unfortunatly, while these are all excellent points, I can only imagine the outrage if the "blind pitbull owners" try defending the "vicious dog" and blaming the victim. :mad:
(Sorry, still having another bad day)
kigaro December 2nd, 2004, 11:56 AM I remember when I was a kid, I pulled out a friend's earing, and it was fairly easy. If this kid had multiple piercings, I have no doubt that a dog could jump up, catch a couple, and the weight pull them out. I also find it interesting that this wasn't news until it was a pitbull. Unfortunatly, while these are all excellent points, I can only imagine the outrage if the "blind pitbull owners" try defending the "vicious dog" and blaming the victim. :mad:
(Sorry, still having another bad day)
exactly. choc labs that bite, do not sell papers.
i feel sorry for this kid, but the story is not news worthy when it is placed in proper context with all dog bites.
we've gone from reporting dogs the need 7 bullets to subdue them....to puppies who bite their owners. everyday in this city someone is taken to emergency to be treated for a dog bite. this kids incident should've ended there like all the others, or the media should be reporting the other incidents as well.
the ear is a loose piece of flesh that is fairly easy to detach from body with just enough force. injuries such as this could have been caused by any medium to large size breed. to use this as an example that pit bulls snap for no reason is poppy-cock. we don't know what happened.
when my dogs are pups i let them nibble on my hand from time to time (controversial, i know, because some advocate you should never let your dog bite period). when they bite a little to hard, i yelp. this way they learn that flesh is delicate, and they can't bite it too hard. with people other then myself my dog never uses her mouth (that was always strictly prohibited), other then to lick. she will play with me, and sometimes she'll lighty nibble a finger, but she knows not to apply pressure.
possibly this puppy didn't realize how delicate flesh is (when my dog licks my ears sometimes i get a little love pinch), and clamped down a litte to hard. and if the kid was wearing earrings, sorry, but that would explain alot more.
certainly, by all accounts he wasn't attacking, and he wanted to cuddle after. well i can tell you that when my dog does something that upsets me, she knows, and wants to cuddle and make up too. what ever happened to accidents?
the point is that is laughable that some people are only attributing these type s of incidents to pit bulls (thanks to the media). like a choc lab isn't capable of removing a piece of ear (and i place good money that it's happened)!
pitbulliest December 2nd, 2004, 01:09 PM This is very sad. For all we know (and most probably so), this is a perfectly nice dog that is friendly and loving..and because of an accident, he's going to lose his life. This is pathetic and just ticks me off. So I guess every time people have accidents...which is alot more than dogs...we should kill them all..give me a break already... :(
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