Mom_Of_Two_Dogs
November 26th, 2004, 08:39 PM
Methinks this is that petiton that Bryant the Tyrant's assistant made. :rolleyes:
http://www.banpitbulls.org/
http://www.banpitbulls.org/
Pro-Bill 132 petitionMom_Of_Two_Dogs November 26th, 2004, 08:39 PM Methinks this is that petiton that Bryant the Tyrant's assistant made. :rolleyes: http://www.banpitbulls.org/ ancarett November 26th, 2004, 10:13 PM Yup. And look at some of the comments like this one on signature #68: "Thank god for this! I can't wait to have my neighbour's dog put down." #205: Pit bulls should be banned; as should Rotweilers and Dobermans There's lot more. seeker November 26th, 2004, 10:44 PM Some of the comments are not in favour of a pitbull ban but are in favour of dealing with the owners . I seen one that said ban them because they are ugly , another that said we should all own goldfish . It certainly looks like a Liberal sponsered deal to me . I emailed them the link to the correction story on pulse24 added a few comments and then asked for a reply . OdinAndAlan November 27th, 2004, 12:11 AM Absolutely incredible stuff. Forget about whether it will work or not, why don't we ask whether it is an ethical piece of legislation to begin with? Seems to me that this legislation is no different than saying that <insert skin colour here> people should be banned from <insert a place here> because they <insert stupid reason here>. Since the politicians would never support something like this if it was directed at people of a certain skin colour, why would they be ok with it for dogs? Seems like something of a double standard to me. Some of those comments made me wonder if those people would be happier living in Germany in the 1930s. bluntman November 27th, 2004, 09:05 AM What a piece of crap, the first line reads*WHEREAS Pit bulls cause one-third of dog-bite related fatalities while only make up less than 2% of the dog population* There has never been a pit bull related fatality in ontario,or Canada as far as I know. Are the fibirals makeing this stuff up as they go allong. I hope there are some good lawyers out there to chalange the fibirals in court, if this passes, where they won't be able to lie and falseify information. NO wonder the general public is against pits, the media and politicians have been lying to them for years. Faceless November 27th, 2004, 10:00 AM Seems to me that this legislation is no different than saying that <insert skin colour here> people should be banned from <insert a place here> because they <insert stupid reason here>. Since the politicians would never support something like this if it was directed at people of a certain skin colour, why would they be ok with it for dogs? Seems like something of a double standard to me. Some of those comments made me wonder if those people would be happier living in Germany in the 1930s. I agree, and that is why the picture on that website with Bryant's face superimposed on Hitler's body didn't bother me in the least. Like that vet on Citypulse said, if we equated this in human terms, it would be racial profiling. Faceless November 27th, 2004, 10:02 AM What a piece of crap, the first line reads*WHEREAS Pit bulls cause one-third of dog-bite related fatalities while only make up less than 2% of the dog population* There has never been a pit bull related fatality in ontario,or Canada as far as I know. Are the fibirals makeing this stuff up as they go allong. I hope there are some good lawyers out there to chalange the fibirals in court, if this passes, where they won't be able to lie and falseify information. NO wonder the general public is against pits, the media and politicians have been lying to them for years. This is the "study" that Bryant parrots like Rainman. Except that it was an "independent" study by some obscure organization in the States that didn't even use scientific sampling methods or accurate statistics. Bryant is a fear-monger and a demagogue. pitbulliest November 27th, 2004, 06:29 PM Shows how much knowledge people that are FOR the ban really have. If you look at the petitions that us anti BSLers were passing around..at least the comments made were intelligent...some people stating facts and good information..but what you get from Tryant's petition? "These dogs are ugly!" Wow...why am I not surprised? :rolleyes: Faceless November 27th, 2004, 06:31 PM People need something to hate, especially when they're frustrated with their own lives. pitbulliest November 27th, 2004, 06:40 PM Sorry for the double post, but I wrote to the email that was provided at the bottom of that pro bsl petition. This is what I wrote. I don't even care if its a little too heartfelt...WHATEVER: To the creator of the petition, and to Michael Bryant's "posse" of uneducated, ignorant, discriminators: Get your information straight. If you did some REAL research instead of relying on opinions and listening to people that "think these dogs are ugly" as quoted from some of the supporters of the ban (which I might add, have no knowledge of dogs from what I'm reading here)... Pit bulls DO NOT account for 1/3 of dog attacks...this is the biggest lie. I cannot believe you are feeding these myths to the public and feeding off of their fears. Terrible terrible ban. Terrible terrible petition. And NO information or facts whatsoever. WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED? Legislation in Kitchener and Waterloo have not proven to be effective as TRUE statistics show that dog bites actually went up, especially in other breeds such as labradors and german shephards. Like I said, DO THE RESEARCH! ---> http://www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org Also, pit bulls passed with a higher grade on the american temperament testing society exam than did golden retrievers and beagles. This means that they are more stable and have a better temperament (friendliness, eagerness to please, etc) than do most other dogs, with a remarkable 84% grade. Again, I have to emphasize, DO THE RESEARCH! You need to focus on dog owners in general, not breeds. This is comparable to racial profiling and is discrimination at its best. People who abuse, neglect, and exploit these poor dogs for fighting or whatever sick purposes they can think of are the ones that the government needs to be dealing with, as they are the ones creating dangerous dogs and an unsafe community. BSL is nothing more than a band aid to a bigger problem. DO THE RESEARCH AND MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE...not a fake and useless piece of crap legislation! You think BSL will make the communities safer? Tell that to all the victims of dog attacks that didn't involve a pit bull, and tell that to all the victims of verbal and physical abuse that own a pit bull and were "mauled" by people from the general public because of the breed they own and the false stereotypes of these dogs that they have heard. SICK SICK SICK! Thank you. I have nothing more to say, as I feel that I am talking to a wall. If you haven't listened to the Toronto Humane Society, Canadian Veterinary Medical Association, The Canadian Health and Safety Board, and just about every other reputable organization that is AGAINST this ban, then what makes me think you'll listen to what I have to say? Sincerely, bluntman November 27th, 2004, 08:41 PM Great e-mail pitbulliest, I gave that petition site a piece of my mind too, I allso sent an e-mail to global news as well, telling them to get there own facts, becuse Michel Bryant has none. ***I live in Peterborough, and often watch global new, But I'm curious is Michel Bryant paying for his time on global? You the media have created false misconseption of fear in ontario regarding pit bulls, you implie that only pit bulls attack, This is false and missleading to the public, All breeds can and do attack daily in ontario and the rest of canada, Yet you feel you are obliged to not share these incdents with the public, Why? Do you feel you get higher rateings if you keep the public scared, instead of informed? Michel Bryant has shown he has no knowlege of dogs at all, He has no agenda for public safety(he ignored all experts on the matter) and his sole purpose for this ban is self gratification, by scareing the public into supporting him. Not one group of canine experts, the humane society or even the canada safety council, agree with Michel Bryant, They dedicate there lives to this issue, and know how to address the problems of vicious dogs of all breeds, Yet Mr. Bryant has ignored them all, in favor of scareing ontario. Please do the right thing, do your own research, and then compare yours to Mr. bryant's, you will soon see Mr. Bryant is not only makeing a fool of himself, but any media group that take's his word as gospel. Then look at what New bruswick has done about vicious dogs. ''''''Bill 55 proposing breed specific legislation died last night. In its place the Province of New Brunswick has chosen to pursue the proactive routes of: - Penalizing irresponsible owners; - Penalizing irresponsible breeders; - Penalizing puppy mills and backyard breeders; - Requiring spay or neuter of companion animals; - Increasing fines for all infractions; - Pursuing criminal charges and sentences for negligence or abuse; - Requiring increased insurance for owners found guilty of negligence or abuse; and, - Imposing a lifetime dog ownership ban on owners found guilty of criminal charges under the legislation.*** The goverment of New Brunswick lisened to the experts and the people of the province, Why won't Mr. Bryant? Akeeter November 28th, 2004, 02:43 AM fell flat on his duff as a federal Liberal by backing Sheila Copps, as leader. :sorry: I had no idea that he was a dog bite victim too? :rolleyes: (I guess this is why one other signatures thanks 'Paul Martin' :eek: for BSL. How unfair is this??? Blaming Poor Paul Martin for this hunka hunka burning P**P?) | ||||