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jackieb
October 22nd, 2004, 02:24 PM
We are thinking of purchasing a 2nd hand car for my hubbys commute at the moment he is using the windstar we have which is costing a fortune. So the idea is i get that and he buys a 2nd car we dont have alot of money to play with as ewe are saving for a house would stretch too 2500 cad. Any ideas on econmical fuel consumption cars he does alot of milage so leasing isnt a option

thanks

Writing4Fun
October 22nd, 2004, 02:31 PM
We just bought a car for my hubby's very long commute. We did A LOT of research into reliable second hand cars. Most of the Japanese makers are reliable (Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan), but you'll pay more for an older car or one with higher mileage. We ended up with a Ford Escort. From 1997-1999, it was a very reliable car, and more reasonable in price than an import. Just be sure to check it over thoroughly before buying (you know - rust, make sure body panels line up or it might have been in an accident, etc...).

Sneaky2006
October 22nd, 2004, 02:32 PM
My husband drives a Sunfire (2002) to work everyday, very good on gas... he drives about 70 miles round trip, plus driving here and there on weekends with it.
He only usually fills up once a week, with a 14 gallon tank. It's about an average of 27 miles per gallon, with highway driving.
In the future he wants to get a Honda Insight with an average of 61 miles per gallon!

Chatocat
October 22nd, 2004, 02:39 PM
My husband drives a 2001 Ford Focus Stationwagon. Even with all the driving around we do (errands, rescues, home delivery of cats etc) and his drive to work.. we spend only $80 a month in gas.

jackieb
October 22nd, 2004, 02:39 PM
We currently have a windstar and have been thinking what car to get for a 2nd car as i would like to have that. The idea is that we can save the insurance costs by the petrol or most of them anyhow!

thanks for your suggestion and we will check the car out.

raingirl
October 22nd, 2004, 02:39 PM
Get a "Smart" car. It's a commuter car. 2 seater. Goes over 600 KM on one tank of deisel. They are the perfect second car.

If I get this job I just applied for, I'm totally going to buy one.

jackieb
October 22nd, 2004, 02:52 PM
how fast would they go?
will look into it thanks

raingirl
October 22nd, 2004, 02:57 PM
In tests of the Smart car, they got to about 120KM on the highway. THat was their max (I never drive that fast, so thats ok with me).

I am obsessed about this car ever since I saw it at the auto show in toronto last year. I fell in LOVE with it! It's made by Mercedes in Europe, and shipped here.

They are reasonable as well, $16000 to start I beleive.

SMART car (http://www.smart.com/-snm-0135145948-1098259854-0000013731-0000001611-1098471656-enm-is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/mpc-ca-content-Site/en_CA/-/-/SVCPresentationPipeline-Start;sid=0i9rMeD-Jll6MaGHisfjOWL0ffx5S37F2sgoJeGR?Page=issite%3a%2f %2fsmart-Site%2fsmart%2ecom%2fRootFolder%2fsmart%2fhome%2ep age)

jackieb
October 22nd, 2004, 03:02 PM
A bit more than we can afford but worth knowing

melanie
October 22nd, 2004, 06:04 PM
we have a 92 toyota corolla 1.6ltr engine (hatchback, and sports model engine), does 100km for $5 on the openroad, that is economic. it has just been shown to be more economic that the new petrol hybrid the toyota prius, so it is soo cheap and economical we cant do any better. but important to keep any car serviced and cared for to increase economy and effeciency, also using higher rated octane fules give you more go for your $$$.

CyberKitten
October 22nd, 2004, 07:34 PM
I so want a Smart Car!! They are small and passed all the tests for safety as well. And they average so many km or miles (as was pointed out) to the litre. (or gal in the US). Solar cars are also kewl but are somewhat pricier.

Here is an ad from the UK though they are coming to a province or state near you soon.

http://www.thesmart.co.uk/

CyberKitten
October 22nd, 2004, 07:38 PM
Here is another link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5217861/

goldenblaze
October 22nd, 2004, 08:48 PM
My husband drives a Sunfire (2002) to work everyday, very good on gas... he drives about 70 miles round trip, plus driving here and there on weekends with it.
He only usually fills up once a week, with a 14 gallon tank. It's about an average of 27 miles per gallon, with highway driving.
In the future he wants to get a Honda Insight with an average of 61 miles per gallon!


I drive a Sunfire aswell, great car. I bought it new in 2000 no problems at all.

onecatandonedog
October 24th, 2004, 11:40 AM
honda and toyota make high quality affordable cars. they are the best two of the japanese car makers, i recommend a used honda civic as it is economical on gas and will have much less engine and machine problems than an american car.


i forgot to add that you should ride a bicycle instead. a human on a bicycle is the most energy efficient way of transportation in terms of energy used over distance, and they are fun.

jackieb
October 25th, 2004, 05:44 AM
We will look into all the suggestions

Bearsmom
October 26th, 2004, 08:32 PM
My biggest concern with the smart car is getting shmucked by a Lincoln Navigator or some other monster SUV. There's no backseat in the smartcar, so your chances can't be that good.

I own an Olds Intrigue and LOVE it. Of course, they don't make it any more, but there's also the Olds Alero. I also like the new Saturn ION, one of my friends just bought one, says it's awesome on gas.

onecatandonedog
October 30th, 2004, 09:04 PM
ban the suv, it is born to be aggressive breed. it is dangerous for the earth becuse it pollutes, it is laughable to see one person driving it, it makes me cry for mother earth. i only walk to places or ride bicycle. i make my own bicycles.

also: do not buy american cars, they are inferior design and quality. they are laughable. cars keep getting bigger and bigger. and you only see one person in the car. always carpool to work or bicycle.

once i saw a person riding a horse.

raingirl
October 31st, 2004, 08:55 AM
Smart cars have been tested to be safer than most other cars. It's has a "safety cell" which is a solid 6 inch metal bar cages that goes around the whole car. You know how they are 2 colours? ONe colour is the panels, the other colour is the safety cell. The cell doesn't even crush!!

CyberKitten
October 31st, 2004, 09:19 AM
I agree re Smart Cars. They are much safer than most. They've tested extremely well, would beat a Lincoln anyday!! And they get so many km per litre!! Kewl!

Sheriffmom
November 2nd, 2004, 11:18 AM
We have found the Hyundai's to be a great car, SUPER warrenty, very inexpensive. We currently have 2. Try the Accent... It's so economical, 7yr warrenty 5yr road side assistance, and it's like $14000 brand new, we've seen 2001 (what we have) being sold for $2500. Ours still runs great, still has warrenty etc... We are buying a Santa Fe next week, we liked Hyundai so much we've decided to stay with them!

heidiho
November 2nd, 2004, 11:24 AM
Well we all cant ride our bicycles to work,i work at an auction and the best car and best for holding its value is honda,toyota,nissan.......And they will run forever........

GsdDiamond
November 2nd, 2004, 11:26 AM
We have a 96 Chevy Cavalier and a 98 Honda CRV.
The gas mileage of the Cavalier is unbelievable! But I needed a larger vehicle for work. So, we got the CRV. I did quite a lot of research on the net, and found the CRV to be one of the safest mid-size SUVs on the market. The worst? KIA Sportage. One crash test photo actually showed the dummy's foot bent in a horrible way because the front tire was pushed through into the driver's compartment.

Check out your prospective vehicle at crashtest.com (http://www.crashtest.com/). Good luck!

jackieb
November 2nd, 2004, 11:46 AM
yes we have been looking at the huyndi accent buy hubby wants air con so we have to find one with that. I dont want to get a new one for him as he will de value you it very quickly with his milage to work. Also we want to keep our options open as we are going to be purchasing a house next year fingers crossed.

thanks for all the insight though currently we have a ford windstar nice but juicy on gas!! But im going to get that i need it with the boys

GsdDiamond
November 2nd, 2004, 12:11 PM
At the crashtest site you can look up vehilce that's quite old, so if you decide to buy used, like we did, you can still make an informed decision! :thumbs up

heidiho
November 2nd, 2004, 12:14 PM
No to hyundai...............

raingirl
November 2nd, 2004, 12:24 PM
Oh. If you buy used, make sure you get a Carfax report on your car, to make sure it's not stolen and to see how many accidents it's been in etc.

I think all you need is the VIN number. If the dealer/person won't give you the VIN number, DO NOT BUY THE CAR! because it usaully means it's stolen.

http://www.carfax.com/

Sheriffmom
November 4th, 2004, 03:16 AM
Heidiho- Why no to Hyundai? Just curious, as we've been very happy with Hyundai. Before I bought my Tib. I did a lot of research on them, and the general consensus (autopoint, lemonaid, car and driver etc...) was that due to Hyundai trying to better their reputation, they were offering great savings, on excellent cars. One even commented that (this was 2.5yrs ago) that within 5-7 years Hyundai would be similarily priced to Honda and Toyota, as their quality was the same if not better already.
Also, we are in the next month buying an SUV and we did a lot of research (I can be extreamly OCD when it comes to research when I am spending any money :D ) the Santa Fe has the highest 3rd party safety rating. Their Tucson is the only SUV that comes standard with ESP (Elec. stability) and side impact airbags.
Hyundai also offers the best (by far) warrenty and road side assistance policies of any car company.
In the last 3yrs they have also shown a drastic improvement in holding their value.... I think on car and driver it said they had the most drastic increase in dollars in terms of used value.
I am not trying to be rude at all, I am just really curious as to why you see Hyundai in such a different light then I do..... :)
Jakieb- Did you say where your from? I know the dealerships around here (Niagara and Hamilton) have quite a few Accents in.... don't know about A/C as we were looking at the SUVs, but I will be going to the dealership this week, if you want me to ask about it for you.... Just let me know :)

jackieb
November 4th, 2004, 05:47 AM
thankyou sheriff mum our problem i think is our budject we can wipe most of the costs out on the petrol saving i only want to spend 2500 cad hubby would like air con. I live in Cambridge i must got to see the falls though lol!!

Sheriffmom
November 4th, 2004, 05:56 AM
Let me know if your comming to the Falls. Not only do I live here, but I'm a Paramedic here as well!! I can for sure point you to some of the cool places, and warn you about the "stay away" from areas :p .
I'll keep my eye out for you. (We just sold our 2001 Accent No A/C for $2500) still in Great shape. Hope you find the car for you!! Have you thought about maybe financing, even put the $2500 down, and finance $1000.?? Just a thought. Take care :)

Writing4Fun
November 4th, 2004, 06:06 AM
Hi Jackie. Too bad you're so far away, or I'd lend you the book we bought. That is something I'd highly recommend - go to Chapters or similar book store and pick up a Canadian used car guide (don't get American, because a lot of their standards/models are different from ours). It'll probably cost you about $40-$50 or so, but it'll be well worth it in the end. I forget the name of the one we bought (and I don't want to wake the kiddies by rummaging around the house at this hour - I'll post the name later if I find the book), but it is very thick and the cover is red. Anyhow, these books usually tell you all about reliability, gas mileage and some even tell you how much you should be spending. Another way to make sure you're not being overcharged is to go to www.autotrader.ca. They have a tool called "value finder", where you plug in the model & year you're looking for, and it gives you a low, high and median price. Good luck in your search (and in processing all of this info :eek: ).

jackieb
November 4th, 2004, 06:41 AM
thanks guys for your imput i am looking at all small engine cars in our price range

Writting for fun i think we borrowed that book to buy our windstar they didnt get a wonderful wright up but it has a good waranty which is another pain as we have it serviced regually due to hubbys commute to work

thanks everyone

crazyhorse
November 4th, 2004, 06:43 AM
The auto trader web site is great that is where I found my last car. If you are going to purchase the car privatly, make sure they have the used car buyer's package on hand for you to look at. It will give you the history of that car how many people owned it, if it has been in an accident, and if there are any leans against it. You can pick it up at a Ministry of Transpertation, where ever you get your license or plates renewed. The cost is about 20 bucks and it is worth it. Make sure the vin number matches on both. As well for a couple of hundred bucks more ( easier said then done) if the other party is will to have it E-tested and certified. It saves alot of surprises later. Also if you buy privatly you save one of the taxes as well. Just a few thing I have learned along the way. Good luck with your car shopping adventure.

heidiho
November 4th, 2004, 09:36 AM
They just have no resale value that is all....

heidiho
November 4th, 2004, 10:26 AM
And when you buy a car at a dealership new they will jack the price way up,if you give me the year make and model and miles i can tell you what they are selling for..

jackieb
November 4th, 2004, 10:33 AM
well I have 2500 cad at the most i can pay for a car we are thinking of trying to finance some not sure they will give us it though havent lived in Canada long since august 28th 2004 . We cant get a bank loan till we have lived here a year our bank said!

heidiho
November 4th, 2004, 10:34 AM
Oh yeah you are in Canada

lil_kirk
November 4th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Well for 2500 dollars I think you are going to be hard pressed to find exactly what you want. The older the car the harder it is likely going to be on gas.

As far as Honda's and Toyota's go---which I love and personally own---you'd need to buy an 80's version to get something in that price range. A 1995 civic in good condition still runs about 8000 bucks unfortunately. They, unlike a lot of north american cars, hold their value really well.

If you can afford a used Cavelier or Sunfire you may be on to something. They were a really HUGE hit a several years back so there are TONS of them on the used car market right now. For 2500 bucks you will likely have to get one with lots of mileage though....which of course comes with its own set of problems.

Another thing to consider is that the "cheaper" car you buy may not actually be cheaper in the end. If you buy a car at 2500 dollars with TONS of KMS, that needs new tires, new brake pads and maybe some work on the engine you will end up costing yourself way more money than if you had bought a newer (not new) but perhaps a 1999 cavelier with low mileage that needs no work done.


Anyways..best of luck on your hunt!

jackieb
November 4th, 2004, 01:12 PM
thankyou all for your help my husband has just bought a hyndai for 2500 inc tax has just had 4 new tires service history emmision test and air con so fingers crossed it will be ok!

All i have to do is learn to drive on the right lol :eek:

lil_kirk
November 4th, 2004, 01:28 PM
That's terrific! congrats. Enjoy your new car!