Akeeter
October 19th, 2004, 10:22 PM
I know at least one person has brought up the Att. Gen.'s speech on annoucement of the ban as being more than a little scary in the matters of civil liberties, increased powers of search & seizure by police & entities who are not the police (to be designated by Att Gen at a later date). From what i understood from his speech, a neighbour could target anyone by hearsay.
I also think that to say that 'the onus for proving that a dog is Not a Pit Bull lies with the accused' is rediculous for many reasons. Do we not live in a society where you are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around?
Since the Att. Gen seems to have no clear definition of what a Pit Bull is, & there is No clear consensus across Canada on what a Pit Bull is -Is this not a case of the Gov. asking people to prove something that cannot be proven? (or disproven?) Even with DNA testing, if you could afford it, all you could prove is the breed or breeds that went into creating this dog. And if the legal definition of Pit Bull isn't clear, how are you to disprove infomation that isn't being made available to you? :confused:
If the Att. Gen. is talking in terms of 150 lb Pit Bulls, as he did the other day, & presumably he is also going to include sizes S.M. & L, as well as that XL, them he might just as well say All dogs (are Pit Bulls?). His terms are too generalized, & all encompassing to give a reasonable definition, that somone can defend against in court.
If any other person who documented his speech, & other statements wants to contact Cdn. Civil Liberties Assn., & add to this Please do! Their e-mail addy is:
mail@ccla.org
I also think that to say that 'the onus for proving that a dog is Not a Pit Bull lies with the accused' is rediculous for many reasons. Do we not live in a society where you are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around?
Since the Att. Gen seems to have no clear definition of what a Pit Bull is, & there is No clear consensus across Canada on what a Pit Bull is -Is this not a case of the Gov. asking people to prove something that cannot be proven? (or disproven?) Even with DNA testing, if you could afford it, all you could prove is the breed or breeds that went into creating this dog. And if the legal definition of Pit Bull isn't clear, how are you to disprove infomation that isn't being made available to you? :confused:
If the Att. Gen. is talking in terms of 150 lb Pit Bulls, as he did the other day, & presumably he is also going to include sizes S.M. & L, as well as that XL, them he might just as well say All dogs (are Pit Bulls?). His terms are too generalized, & all encompassing to give a reasonable definition, that somone can defend against in court.
If any other person who documented his speech, & other statements wants to contact Cdn. Civil Liberties Assn., & add to this Please do! Their e-mail addy is:
mail@ccla.org