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Meowing to the point that I might need a muzzle. I'm SLEEP DEPRIVED.

MEOW247
December 21st, 2012, 10:28 AM
This adorable cat was found by myself in my old neighborhood. He lived in a large townhouse but was ALWAYS outdoors, and ended up getting fleas. After talking to the owners we were able to take him in. So, long story short, I moved out and got an apartment and adopted this cat! I removed all his fleas, he's super clean, indoor only except for a balcony and the occasional park excursion. I thought he would appreciate it.. BUT....

HE MEOWS incessantly! I get home from work and he meows for a good 2 hours until he passes out. Then, he will start HOWLING sometimes as early as 4AM other times 7AM (when I'm lucky) and my alarm is set to 8AM so I never get a full 8 hours anymore. I get 5-7 at best. Then, once I'm up making breakfast, he's meowing walking in circles until I pet him and the instant the attention stops, he starts. I can deal with the meowing while I'm awake. However, during sleep is UNACCEPTABLE. Having a cat should not be this much pain.

I do play with him for at least 30 mins when I get home after I feed him. My fiance also plays with him and we both try our best to keep him entertained with toys and music while we're gone.

He meows so loud and our apartment is so small that earplugs are NOT enough. It seems like he wants to play as he has food! I'm currently sleep deprived and considering giving him back to the previous owners who don't even care about him! This cat has been passed around and now i know why! He SUCKS! I really regret this.. but now I'm stuck with him. If he was only QUIET he would be the PERFECT cat!!!

We moved 2 months ago and this is just getting worse. I don't want to let him outside as I live in a busy area. I tried those phermone collars with absolutely no success. I tried giving him excessive attention during the day but once I ignore him the MEOWING ensues.

Yes, he's spayed. I also took him to the vet and he has clean bill of health. He's an 8 yr old Male Siamese. I think he has a neurological problem. He's a Siamese and I get that these cats are vocal but this is ridiculous.

My options so far are:
-muzzle during the night (ok this is a joke but.. seriously I considered it for a spit second lol)
-some sedative to be administered to him (not a great long term solution)
-just wait it out??

marko
December 21st, 2012, 10:56 AM
"indoor only except for a balcony and the occasional park excursion. I thought he would appreciate it.. BUT...."

If I had to bet, the cat is meowing to go out.

I have a suggestion in this case - stop letting the cat out - no exceptions

OR only let the cat out at the EXACT same time every day. If this is not possible, stop letting the cat out. The cat needs to know when it is going to go out or it will 'ask' to go out to the point of insanity.

If this is not the problem, then some type of behaviour modification plan might be in order...or I might go the sedative route as a last resort.

I too have 2 sphynx cats that are way too vocal so i feel your pain.

I'd be curious to know what other members suggest.

good luck.

pattymac
December 21st, 2012, 11:45 AM
none of mine are overly vocal, Noella likes to answer when you talk to her and Bobee sometimes goes on yowling sprees. I would say lots of play time, tire him out. I've been sort of following Jackson Galaxy and he's amazing with cats. His main thing seems to be that alot of problems stem from cats not getting what they need, which is hunt, eat, groom and sleep. One thing that has really helped me, my Noella is young and she can be a major little trouble maker but she'll be good if she can watch the birds, so I have bird feeders out and that's her major entertainment, she'lll sit and watch, have something to eat and go and sleep. Maybe if you can put a feeder out on your balcony and if he has a window he can sit and watch the birds. A wand toy at night so you can tire him out with some playtime. I like those better than laser lights cause they can actually catch it and kill it. My other cats are quite a bit older so they spend most of their time sleeping. Oops sorry just read that you do have playtime with him. Oh, try a calming collar, you can get them at Petsmart. It's all natural and it really does work or a Feliway pheromone diffuser, also at Petsmart. I used the calming collar on my cats when I adopted a very defensive, very large Maine Coon. He wasn't used to living with other cats and this worked wonders for everyone. Took about 24 hours and he could actually relax and not go around smacking the other cats. I also used them when we moved across the country, there isn't much more stressful than sticking 3 cats and a dog in a van for a week!!

Barkingdog
December 21st, 2012, 01:01 PM
Siamese cats are very vocal and loud. This web site said Siamese cats do like to hear themselves talk , maybe if you turned on a radio very softly your cat will listen to that instead of taking so much. I knew a women that had 2 Siamese cats to keep one another company as they do get lonely. Have asked your vet if any of his patients lost a Siamese cat and would like another one? You could also put up photos in other vets office . I am sure there is some person out there that just lost their Siamese cat and would love to have another. I hope you'll not have to bring it back to the first owner.






http://pets.webmd.com/cats/guide/cats-excessive-meowing

MEOW247
December 21st, 2012, 01:13 PM
I already tried a calming collar with phermones, it didn't make any diff unfortunately.

I WILL try getting a bird feeder. My last place was a nice townhouse so I didn't want bird poo everywhere but I live in an apartment now so I don't really care about that.

I'll give it another month. Yeah, good point BarkingDog.. excellent advice. I hear ya.

PS. I'm Canadian :ca::thumbs up

Koteburo
December 22nd, 2012, 09:21 AM
Playing time might add to the equation as well.
Scheduled activities just like Marko said or not going out at all.
He's a beautiful cat and he doesn't suck ♥ :p He just needs to find someone with enough patience to deal with this and get through it. The more he's rolled around the harder it must be for the poor little guy.
A night before last night, Yoshimi (a cat here) kept meowing to the point of insanity and she's deaf so her meowing is incredibly loud, kept everyone in a big house awake, so I know what kind of noise you're talking about. (she wanted in one of the bedrooms)
I know you're here trying to find a solution :) Please have patience with him :pray: it's time for him to find a good perma home don't you think? And yours sounds like a responsible, caring one. You just have to get through this and this is caused because he's so used to being outside.
Here comes Yoshi again btw meowing like nuts because she got a trophy in her mouth as I type this.(a piece of rock haha)

Longblades
December 22nd, 2012, 11:41 AM
It can be difficult to transition an outdoor cat to indoors. Cats have not been domesticated nearly as long as dogs and it's been said having a cat is the closest most of us will get to living with a wild animal. My Vet said in his studies he learned pigs and cats will go feral faster than any other domestic animal.

Thus it may be that a new home where he can be outside safely would be a good alternative. It might improve the quality of his life and yours.

Other thoughts: We have two howlers. Have you heard of Deaf Cat Howl? It's awful. One of ours is also experiencing dementia. This is way tougher as you can't let a deaf cat outside. One of ours was always a talker but now she is deaf it's a howl. She will howl to herself for hours at night. During the day it doesn't matter if we are with her, she can't hear us so she often doesn't know we are in the room with her. Check your cat's hearing.

He doesn't look Siamese but I guess that doesn't matter. Neither of ours is either and they still howl. Good luck

MEOW247
December 23rd, 2012, 02:11 PM
Koteburo -- YOU ARE RIGHT!! I love this cat to death and am not going to give him back to the previous owners. I am developing more patience and he's actually doing better with everyday!!

I have stopped letting him out but this is mostly due to the rain. When he goes out again it WILL be scheduled. Good point! You sound like a very patient person with a big heart and I'm sure part of that is because of your kitties. I'm sure this cat is helping me turn into a better person.

@Longblades - he is a flame point Siamese! Luckily he's not deaf as he will respond to the faintest sounds. That's incredible that you put up with all that howling!! Gosh, I cannot believe how many wonderful caring people are out there, it really gives me hope!

Another thing I do now is I feed him his wet food at night right before bed and a clear bird feeder is on the way (in the mail)!

This cat is MY FAMILY. I cannot let him go!! I will do my best to be more patient with the poor baby. It's not his fault. My fiance and I love him to death and he's sooo sweet when he's quiet. :sleepy::cat:

Longblades
December 23rd, 2012, 02:21 PM
LOL, we need a better picture. I can only really see his head and his markings are very close to some orange tabby cats we've have, only his seem to be dilute, compared to ours. Better photo, please. :)

angeldogs
December 23rd, 2012, 06:22 PM
Koteburo -- YOU ARE RIGHT!! He does not suck! I just said that because I was sleep deprived that day. I love this cat to death and am not going to give him back to the previous owners. I am developing more patience and he's actually doing better with everyday!!

I have stopped letting him out but this is mostly due to the rain. When he goes out again it WILL be scheduled. Good point! You sound like a very patient person with a big heart and I'm sure part of that is because of your kitties. I'm sure this cat is helping me turn into a better person.

@Longblades - he is a flame point Siamese! Luckily he's not deaf as he will respond to the faintest sounds. That's incredible that you put up with all that howling!! Gosh, I cannot believe how many wonderful caring people are out there, it really gives me hope!

Another thing I do now is I feed him his wet food at night right before bed and a clear bird feeder is on the way (in the mail)!

This cat is MY FAMILY. I cannot let him go!! I will do my best to be more patient with the poor baby. It's not his fault. My fiance and I love him to death and he's sooo sweet when he's quiet. :sleepy::cat:
It sounds like things are getting better.you came to the right place for help and advice.I don.t have a cat but there are some amazing people with lots of knowledge on this forum.

MEOW247
December 25th, 2012, 10:42 PM
Hi Longblades- Here's another pic of our baby 8 yr old Siamese!

angeldogs
December 25th, 2012, 11:45 PM
What a cutie.:cloud9:

Longblades
December 26th, 2012, 07:12 AM
Thanks. I would never have known there was such a thing as flame point siamese. What distinguishes a flame point siamese from a dilute ornage tabby? Which, sorry, is what I would have guessed. LOL, orange is a favourite colour at my house. Of all my cats most have been black and second most orange. No matter to me what the name of the colour, he's lovely. :)

hazelrunpack
December 26th, 2012, 09:18 AM
:lovestruck: What a doll!

sugarcatmom
December 26th, 2012, 11:29 AM
I would never have known there was such a thing as flame point siamese. What distinguishes a flame point siamese from a dilute ornage tabby?

Technically, he'd be referred to as a Red Lynx Colourpoint: Siamese crossed with red tabby somewhere down the line, which gives the cat blue eyes, a creamy body and red "points" on the face, ears, tail, legs. My Cinnamon Girl is also one:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f177/aztec_egypt/Cinnamonpoints-1_zpsd3f33c70.jpg

ownedbycats
December 27th, 2012, 03:09 PM
There are actually quite a number of Siamese colour varieties now. My cat book lists blue point(dark grey), lilac point (light grey), tortoiseshell, tabby, the familiar seal, a paler brown color and the red color

MEOW247
December 29th, 2012, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys!! He DEFINITELY is a Siamese.. he's as vocal as cats get! Yup. Flame point/red point I guess is a shortened way of saying "Red Lynx Colorpoint", he's a hybrid from the original Siamese. WOW sugarcatmom.. Cinnamongirl looks so similar to my boy! Although, mine is a bit more heavyset, he's 15lbs!!