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Olde English Bulldogges

Choc Lab Lover
October 25th, 2002, 08:15 PM
Anyone a breeder here in Canada?
Anyone know of any Canadian breeders??

The darn buggers are SO expensive :(

But we are gonna get one, one way or another!! (In the spring or summer '03)

kash
January 18th, 2003, 03:53 PM
i know they are expensive liitle dudes.
so far, they have ranged from $2500 to $1000.
i have found at least 4 breeders in alberta. there are loads in ont and one in sask.
the average price seems to be $1800
i am worried about the health complications; skin problems, hip disp, small trachea, etc.
i wonder if you get you pay for, or if the $2500 guarrantees no problems?

Choc Lab Lover
January 18th, 2003, 07:22 PM
Hi Kash!

Fortunatly I have now found a great breeder, and have already put down a deposit for a little guy that will be born in Feb.

Youre mistaken however... I have only come across 3 breeders in Canada... that have had websites anyhow.

I've decided to buy from the states and have the little guy shipped up to us.

Olde English Bulldogges do not have any health problems that the "English Bulldogge" has. So if a breeder is telling you their OEB's have problems.. it isnt an OEB.

I came a lot of sites that claimed to breed OEB when in actuality they breed English bulldogs.. HUGE difference!

Olde english bulldogges, should be free welpers and free breeders. If you are looking for one you are right they are pricey, i was able to get mine (first pick male) for 1200$ american. Which is almost 2000$ here in canada... However i will probably stud the little fellow, already met some people of the OEB community and have a few connections, so it shouldnt be too expensive in the long run.

Heres a site if you would like..
http://www.dogresources.com/olde/

Pretty helpful... Caution though, a lot of people wont give a good gaurentee.. so i would suggest not buying from them... only buy if they will give you a good garuntee.. i would recommend "Our olde english bulldogges"

thats where im getting mine from and i have heard really good things about them, and they are lovely people.

Goodluck! :D

Photo from Our Olde English BUlldogges... (This is the sire to my future pup) This is a true OEB. Mind you lines vary.

Xenon
September 27th, 2003, 09:43 AM
Olde English Bulldogs are not recognized by the AKC or CKC, so if that matters to you, you might want to take that into consideration.

If you would like a list of some local Ontario English Bulldog breeders, just send me a private message and I'd be glad to help you.

I own an English Bulldog, a beautiful red named Licorice. Her brother (http://www.browntrout.com/calendars/product.asp?MGID=1163&IID=4321) is on the 2004 Browntrout Bulldog calendar.

Choc Lab Lover
September 27th, 2003, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the offer. Ive gotten my OLDE english bulldogge in May. Hes the best dog i could have asked for.

English bulldogge and Olde english bulldogge are quite different in a lot of areas. Thanks!

PS: Hes registered with the ARF animal research foundation.

Burtess
December 21st, 2003, 03:17 PM
Isn't the Olde English Bulldogge a back cross of the English Bulldog and a pitbull or Mastiff? We read about some breeders doing this and thus purchased a Boxer, and we are very happy with the boxer..

Burt:)

Lucky Rescue
December 21st, 2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by kash
i know they are expensive liitle dudes.
so far, they have ranged from $2500 to $1000.
i have found at least 4 breeders in alberta. there are loads in ont and one in sask.
the average price seems to be $1800
i am worried about the health complications; skin problems, hip disp, small trachea, etc.
i wonder if you get you pay for, or if the $2500 guarrantees no problems?

You can pay 5000$ and still have all those problems if the breeder is not reputable and does not test for genetic defects before breeding.

The skankiest backyard breeders can charge large sums if a certain type of dog is "hot" and people do not do their homework.

It's very important to find out these things before purchasing any puppy.

mona_b
December 22nd, 2003, 11:00 AM
LR you are so right.If a breeder doesn't produce health gaurentee papers they are not registered breeders.And by that I mean reputable breeders must be licenced with the Kennel club.And what I can't figure out is someone whould purchase a pup from the states.When purchasing you should always go to the breeder.Talk to them.See the sire and dam.Spend time with the puppies and the breeder.And this breed came out in 1971.And yes burtess,they are combined with the bull dog,the american bulldog,various boxers,pit bull and bull terriers.And for those in Canada and looking to purchase a puppy,there is an amazing book.It's called Dogs Annuel Canada.It has all breeders and tips to help you buying a puppy.What to look for and ig that breed is right for you.It has all the breeds and tells you about them.And with this breed it says obedience training is a must.And the one breeder I am looking at is in Schomberg Ont.

Lucky Rescue
December 23rd, 2003, 03:02 PM
Very good advice, Mona_b, about spending time with pups and mom, and talking to the breeders!

I just have to point out one thing - AKC (or CKC) papers mean very little and do not guarantee quality or responsible breeding in any way.

ALL they mean is that the dog is purebred, and was born to two purebred parents who are of the same breed.

Any backyard breeder or puppy mill can give you papers on a dog.

It's very unfortunate that the AKC,etc. does nothing to try and promote responsible breeding.

Anyone who wants a purebred puppy should take the time to do a lot research and ask a lot of questions of the breeder. Any breeder who is doing it RIGHT will be more than happy to answer any and all questions.

If any breeder won't, or can't answer you - walk away!!

bulldogger
September 27th, 2004, 10:25 AM
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Copper'sMom
September 27th, 2004, 01:10 PM
Maybe you better check with Michael Bryant before you make your purchase. He may consider this breed a Pit Bull!!!!!!!!!! LOL

pug lover
September 28th, 2004, 11:59 PM
just because you see pictures and every thing looks and sounds great--that doesn't mean you WILL be getting one of their premium puppies

I did all of that and all I got was a puppy mill puppy for about $1400 us**be very careful**

Lucky Rescue
October 8th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Wow. Quite a story.

One line in the message struck me:
We sent the stud dogge to the fellow breeder with blind faith that they would send us the rest.

This is a good reminder that people should get things in WRITING - from breeders, rescues, etc.

lovemybullie
June 9th, 2005, 05:42 AM
I bought a bulldog about 3 years ago from some random breeder and recently had to have it put to sleep due to health problems :( I recently bought another from a place in AZ and so far everything is great! I guess you really have to be careful with who you get puppies from! I really miss smithy :( The person I got my english bulldog from can be found here. I don't know if they send to Canada or not though? English Bulldogs (http://www.royalpuppykennel.com) and French Bulldogs (http://www.royalpuppykennel.com)

good luck!! :D

charoscoe
June 9th, 2005, 09:53 AM
A friend of mine breeds OEBD in Ontario, here is a link to his web site. I'm not sure what his prices are like but he is very true to breed. Doesn't hurt to check it out. He is one of those breeders who does it for the love of the breed (shouldn't they all)

http://www.suddenimpactca.com/


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Louis
February 11th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Hello Everyone
My name is Louis, and I am a fancier/breeder of OEB'S. OEB'S Generaly have good health depending what type of you are referring to. The type that I can talk about is the only OEB that I know of. Other type are categorize as Olde Bulldogges, Olde Tyme Bulldogges, Renassence Bulldogges, Victorian Bulldogges, and so on, the list can get longer. Most people do not understand what these are. These are a breed of type and not a line. Within each breed there are lines.
These dogs have been crossed with other type of breeds. The most recognized and published breed from these types are the OEB created by David Leavitt and the Hermes Bulldogge created by Mr. Hermes.

I am a member of the OEBKC and a breeder of the OEB (Leavitt). Yes, they can be expensive depending what you are looking for. A pet quality dog can be around $1200 to $1500, and the best quality with breeding/show traits can be $2000.00.
I can tell you this, a breeder should back up their dogs with a warrantee of health and a guarantee of quality type. Regarding the registrations. Most of us know 3 types of registrations the AKC, UKC, CKC. The issues with these registrations are that their views are towards the Show Ring. Because of this problem dog breeds like Boxers, Bulldogs, and others have been damaged in the area of purpose, character, and temperaments

If you are interested I can give you more information about the breed, and if you are interested in getting an OEB contact me:

We are a very small kennel dedicated to improve and create good dogs with excellent temperament for the family to enjoy. The OEB was intended to look like the 1700's - 1830's Bulldog before the introduction of the Pug breed and other. The OEB has been around 30 years now. A careful creation was done by Mr. Leavitt with a Genetecist and other members to help create the breed. Although Mr. Leavitt was the first to create his type and give the name of OEB. Others have follow, many with success, and those who's creation was accepted have decided to name their breed by other names. A study by Mr.Jeffrey Bragg explains how a breed is created. http://seppalasleddogs.com/documents/pbdb21c.htm
http://seppalasleddogs.com/documents/pbdb21c.htm
Words like ANCESTRY, PURPOSE, TYPOLOGY, FOUNDER EVENT, etc are crucial in a dog breed history for the acceptance. The OEB has all the words conected for the recognition of a breed of type.

Here are some more links of interest. One thing I must say They are Great! You will be stop during your walks or outings with your dog.
Have fun, and keep searching.
http://www.geocities.com/delmaroebs/index.html

http://www.oebkc.us/

Here are some of my dogs that I have bred and own. Hope you enjoy.
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AND THEY CAN SWIM!!!!!

White Wolf
April 19th, 2006, 10:26 PM
Information like that which you requested should not be given on this site in the open forum anymore. It is considered slander and as written in the rules, is not permitted. We prefer that you ask for good breeders.:)

asdf.0
April 20th, 2006, 12:25 PM
Okay, anyone heard any good things about Willows Haven Ranch?

Or any breeders in Alberta, for that matter?

Thanks!

Ford
June 9th, 2006, 12:04 PM
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