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Vet mistake?

BastienBully
February 2nd, 2011, 08:57 AM
Hi, i have a question for you guys, my friends dog (bully's sister) cut herself on a broken beer bottle last saturday, my friend brought her to the vet on monday for her shots and showed them the cut that was heeling pretty good on it self, but the vet said she needed a cast... :confused: they gave her one, but yesterday (Tuesday) seeing the dog in alot of pain, we removed the cast to find that the infection was 10 times worst then before and her paw is now swollen :(

My opinion is that it would of probably been alot better without a cast (it was heeling on its own really good) but the cast just got moist and infected the cut. Its not a big cut either, maybe 1/4 inch wide and 1/8 deep.

Let me know what you guys think. Im not saying vets are no good, but im just wondering if they made a bad call on that one?:shrug:

BMDLuver
February 2nd, 2011, 08:59 AM
did they not give a script for antibiotics?

Love4himies
February 2nd, 2011, 09:07 AM
I would have thought a stitch and antibiotics :shrug:, but not a cast.

BastienBully
February 2nd, 2011, 09:29 AM
They gave her antibiotics, but no stitchs, i was really suprised when i got there and she had that big cast that alsmost goes up to her neck and a steel plate in the cast... But last night we removed the cast, and we will see how its doing tonight, she a "cone" on her head so she wont bite it and make it bleed like she did the first time. I hope its better, the more i think about it, the more i find the idea of a cast stupid, she cant walk with it, so she pees and *****s inside... not helping for the house training! :yell:

BMDLuver
February 2nd, 2011, 09:41 AM
They don't stitch a paw, best they will do is silver coat the injury. A soft cast is not unheard of either and the steal piece was to restrict movement so that it will heal without a gash so to speak. A beer bottle is not a clean item and swelling is to be expected. The antibiotics will take a bit to start working also.

BastienBully
February 2nd, 2011, 10:46 AM
Yes i understand, but like i said, the cut was heeling very well on its own, i dont see the point of a cast, it made things worst, but its a mistake anybody could have made i guess.

BMDLuver
February 2nd, 2011, 10:49 AM
Yes i understand, but like i said, the cut was heeling very well on its own, i dont see the point of a cast, it made things worst, but its a mistake anybody could have made i guess.

Saturday, dog cuts paw, Monday infection shows.....that is 48 hours which is generally the minimum it will take to see infection. I highly doubt the cast is what caused the infection but rather the beer bottle glass.

BastienBully
February 2nd, 2011, 12:35 PM
Saturday, dog cuts paw, Monday infection shows.....that is 48 hours which is generally the minimum it will take to see infection. I highly doubt the cast is what caused the infection but rather the beer bottle glass.

Alright thanks, im not saying your wrong :) ill keep you guys posted on how it goes. :D

Rgeurts
February 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM
I would be very careful. The cast can actually cause a very bad infection. When I had Nookie at the specialist, there was a lady there who's dog (Mastiff) had been in the hospital for several days. They were trying to decide if she should be pts or risk surgery. A coulple weeks previous to this she had broken a toe and the family vet put a cast on her. A few days later she started having an odour and acting odd so they took her to emergency. When they removed the cast she had a very bad infection in her ankle. They put her on antibiotics but didn't seem to help much. The lady said after about a week she ended up back in emergency. A specialist was called in. The specialist told her the infection was probably caused by the cast rubbing on the skin, that there was probably a small scrape or scratch there and the cast probably shouldn't have been put on the dog for a broken toe because casts often cause infection due to moisture and bacteria getting trapped. Just before we left with Nookie, the specialist came out and talked to her again. The infection was so bad that the surgery to remove the infected tissue was not an option, but it had not spread to the blood. They had to amputate her leg. She was only 11 months old. This dog lost it's leg (and almost it's life) over a broken toe.

I'm not saying this happens in every case, or is even common. Just something to watch out for.

BMDLuver
February 2nd, 2011, 02:47 PM
I would be very careful. The cast can actually cause a very bad infection. When I had Nookie at the specialist, there was a lady there who's dog (Mastiff) had been in the hospital for several days. They were trying to decide if she should be pts or risk surgery. A coulple weeks previous to this she had broken a toe and the family vet put a cast on her. A few days later she started having an odour and acting odd so they took her to emergency. When they removed the cast she had a very bad infection in her ankle. They put her on antibiotics but didn't seem to help much. The lady said after about a week she ended up back in emergency. A specialist was called in. The specialist told her the infection was probably caused by the cast rubbing on the skin, that there was probably a small scrape or scratch there and the cast probably shouldn't have been put on the dog for a broken toe because casts often cause infection due to moisture and bacteria getting trapped. Just before we left with Nookie, the specialist came out and talked to her again. The infection was so bad that the surgery to remove the infected tissue was not an option, but it had not spread to the blood. They had to amputate her leg. She was only 11 months old. This dog lost it's leg (and almost it's life) over a broken toe.

I'm not saying this happens in every case, or is even common. Just something to watch out for.

Should be okay as they have already removed the cast I believe

Rgeurts
February 2nd, 2011, 03:47 PM
Should be okay as they have already removed the cast I believe

I sure hope so, for the dogs sake! :)

Apparently, the Mastiffs infection was a type of flesh eating bacteria, so removing the cast didn't make a difference as the infection had set in. I'm sure it isn't a common bacteria (at least I would hope not :eek:), but good to know about things like that so people may be a little more diligent in getting the animal back to the vet before it gets out of hand.

Love4himies
February 2nd, 2011, 03:52 PM
They don't stitch a paw, best they will do is silver coat the injury.

I didn't know that, I guess I learn something everyday :thumbs up

BMDLuver
February 2nd, 2011, 04:00 PM
I would be very careful. The cast can actually cause a very bad infection. When I had Nookie at the specialist, there was a lady there who's dog (Mastiff) had been in the hospital for several days. They were trying to decide if she should be pts or risk surgery. A coulple weeks previous to this she had broken a toe and the family vet put a cast on her. A few days later she started having an odour and acting odd so they took her to emergency. When they removed the cast she had a very bad infection in her ankle. They put her on antibiotics but didn't seem to help much. The lady said after about a week she ended up back in emergency. A specialist was called in. The specialist told her the infection was probably caused by the cast rubbing on the skin, that there was probably a small scrape or scratch there and the cast probably shouldn't have been put on the dog for a broken toe because casts often cause infection due to moisture and bacteria getting trapped. Just before we left with Nookie, the specialist came out and talked to her again. The infection was so bad that the surgery to remove the infected tissue was not an option, but it had not spread to the blood. They had to amputate her leg. She was only 11 months old. This dog lost it's leg (and almost it's life) over a broken toe.

I'm not saying this happens in every case, or is even common. Just something to watch out for.

poor dog!

BastienBully
February 3rd, 2011, 03:26 PM
Ok well after removing the cast for 2 days now, Brooklyn's paw is doing really really good! :D We make shure its always clean so no dirt gets into the cut. She one happy little dog, no cast and no "cone"! Yeah!!! :cool::D:laughing:

Rgeurts
February 3rd, 2011, 04:20 PM
That's VERY good to hear!! :fingerscr:goodvibes: for continued improvement!!

Goldfields
February 3rd, 2011, 05:01 PM
Bastien, IMO you did the right thing ditching the cast. Vets should really tell customers how dangerous they can be if a cast rubs or it get damp or sweaty inside the cast. My old sheltie had to have (soft) support casts for her hind legs and by changing them as often as needed, maybe even twice a week if I thought there was a problem, she had over 3 extra years, however another sheltie with the same problem had a (rigid)cast (or casts, I forget) on for a week and had such a shocking infection it had to be pts. Glad to hear that Brooklyn is now doing so well.

BastienBully
February 4th, 2011, 07:54 AM
Thanks guys for all your help, ill keep you posted if anything else happens, but for now everything is going for the best :)