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Help finding the right dog

garyb
August 30th, 2010, 09:47 AM
Hope I put this in the right area. If not I do apologize. Anyone who has followed my posts knows that last month we lost of beloved Shih Poo, Mackenzie due to meningitis. We were told that we did everything possible but this was something that could not have been prevented. Our initial response was "no more dogs", but lately we have realized that that are home is not complete without another dog to keep us company. So we look for help here and maybe some suggestions. We are both in our mid 60's, are basically home people who go shopping a couple of times a week and other than the occasional walk are here in our condo the rest of the time. We are looking for a small dog, no more than 15-20 pounds, enjoys playing with toys, does not bark a lot and is easy to train. We have a list already of 5-6 dogs but are curious as to what others might suggest.

Marty11
August 30th, 2010, 10:12 AM
Are you active walkers? If not look at a mature french bulldog or a boston terrier. Nice temperments, playful, quiet most of the time, short hair, no grooming. Weigh between 15-25 lbs.

Marty11
August 30th, 2010, 10:14 AM
Have you thought about a cat. Siamese make great companions.........

BenMax
August 30th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Have you thought about a cat. Siamese make great companions.........

Siamese are wonderful cats indeed..very dog like.

If cats are not of interest, then I would recommend contacting a rescue group, give them full disclosure about your lifestyle and they should be able to find the right match should you qualify. Most dogs (and cats if that interest you) are in a foster home and they can provide you tons of information to an animal that you may be interested in. You will no doubt find the perfect match this way.

Best of luck to you.:thumbs up

garyb
August 30th, 2010, 10:23 AM
Sorry, we are not "cat people" My wife has had dogs all her life and would prefer a dog.
We are not active walkers as we both suffer from plantar fasciitis.
Did I mention that we were looking for a puppy?

BenMax
August 30th, 2010, 10:32 AM
Sorry, we are not "cat people" My wife has had dogs all her life and would prefer a dog.
We are not active walkers as we both suffer from plantar fasciitis.
Did I mention that we were looking for a puppy?

If you are limited in exercise, then a puppy is not a great choice. They require active people in order to develop into well balanced teenagers and adults. To me, I don't think it fair for a puppy not to get alot of exercise and mental stimulation while doing it. That is simply my opinion. You may have a hard time then finding a rescue that would accomodate you in a puppy if certain criterias are not fulfilled.

Dog Dancer
August 30th, 2010, 10:39 AM
garyb, I think you and your wife could find a wonderful one to two year old dog through a rescue group with no problem. That way the dog is already socialized and trained and more ready to settle into your quiet lifestyle. I agree with BM that while puppies are wonderful, they do require a lot more socializing and stimulation that comes from being out and about. Check out the petfinder site in your area and see what type of dogs are available. A crossbreed is always just as wonderful as a purebred. Please be very careful of backyard breeders and don't buy a puppy at a pet store whatever you do. BenMax can probably help you source a rescue, she has a world of knowledge in that area.

garyb
August 30th, 2010, 10:48 AM
Thanks, if BenMAx could suggest rescue sights in or around the Toronto area that would be great. Neither my wife nor I drive on the highway, me because of a medical condition with my neck and her just because she is terrified to drive on the highway.
Sadly as we read more I think we realize that our last dog was purchased from back yard breeder. Although we did have him checked out with the vet before we actually purchase him. And will not purchase from a pet store.

Dog Dancer
August 30th, 2010, 10:56 AM
I've PMd BenMax and asked her to get in touch with you. Good luck in your search, a rescue is a wonderful and loving pet.

BenMax
August 30th, 2010, 11:19 AM
I will provide you with a list of great rescues. They do home visits so I am sure many will come to you. Keep in mind, that not all rescues will adopt very willingly. You really must meet certain requirements which I am certain that you do.

Just a note: I am now 45 years old, healthy and active (kind of). I have always adopted dog that are 3+ years as a minimum requirement and also had and still have great consideration on the breed that I will 'permit' myself to have based on my activity level and lifestyle. I do this because I need to make sure that I do not have a dog that requires tons of exercise and is also easy to handle only based again on what I can and cannot offer a fur companion.

Excuse me for being terribly ignorant perhaps, but based on your medical profile please consider taking on an older pet. They are just as rewarding as any other.:thumbs up

chico2
August 30th, 2010, 11:47 AM
GaryB,my husband and I are in our mid-60's live a relatively active lifestyle,love the outdoors,but were we to adopt a dog,he would definitely have to be older.
There are thousands of loving grown dogs,who for no fault of their own end up in a shelter.:(

You and your wife should visit a few shelters,meet different dogs,maybe even take them for a walk,if allowed and you would see for yourself,how grateful they are for any attention.
Maybe you would even fall in love.

BenMax
August 30th, 2010, 11:49 AM
GaryB,my husband and I are in our mid-60's live a relatively active lifestyle,love the outdoors,but were we to adopt a dog,he would definitely have to be older.
There are thousands of loving grown dogs,who for no fault of their own end up in a shelter.:(

You and your wife should visit a few shelters,meet different dogs,maybe even take them for a walk,if allowed and you would see for yourself,how grateful they are for any attention.
Maybe you would even fall in love.

:thumbs up. I so agree Chico2. Even though I am 45 years old, I would never adopt a puppy as I have to assume that the lifespan is 15 years. That would take me to 60 and if I continue smoking like I do...I may not make it that far. Really for this reason, I adopt older animals as well.

Tundra_Queen
August 30th, 2010, 12:43 PM
Gary, I adopted a six year old Shih Tzu in March and it was the best thing I ever did. She does not need a lot of exercise, though I do walk her in the park every day, but that is more for me and her enjoyment than need for her. She doesn't bark. she loves sitting outside on the patio with me and the other dog. she is a wonderful dog.

Good luck.

Debbie

chico2
August 30th, 2010, 03:32 PM
BM,that's how I feel too,I am hoping I will outlive my cats,at 14,13 and 8 yrs old,but chances are I will not:(

Shaykeija
August 30th, 2010, 09:26 PM
Psttt..I know where you can get a little poodle..3 years old spayed and up to date on needles... Any small dog would be happy with you.

JennieV
August 30th, 2010, 11:05 PM
We are both in our mid 60's, are basically home people who go shopping a couple of times a week and other than the occasional walk are here in our condo the rest of the time. We are looking for a small dog, no more than 15-20 pounds, enjoys playing with toys, does not bark a lot and is easy to train. We have a list already of 5-6 dogs but are curious as to what others might suggest.

As was mentioned earlier, I, too, vote older dog. Not only you are older yourself, you live in a condo.. housetraining a puppy will be a tremendous undertaking physically as well as mentally. Owning a puppy is like having a baby: accidents, chewing etc... And while the joy of owning a puppy is quite irresistible, I am sure you will get quite fed up with having to constantly clean up after one.

BenMax is very right. You need to also ask yourself what it is you can GIVE a dog, rather than just what it is YOU want. That is how pets end up in shelters over and over again, is when people suddenly realize they can't handle the dog.
In response to your breed question: your requirements are really more of a temperament rather than a breed...You could have a perfect quiet little poodle, or a yappy one that will drive you and your neighbours nuts.. You should really aim for the character and the temperament of the dog, rather than breed. However, having said that, some breeds are more hyper than others, for instance Jack Russell terriers, they are just a ball of neverending energy, and while this can be cute for a while, this dog will get bored if not stimulated physically AND mentally, and will find ways to entertain itself...You would not believe the amount of destruction that can be caused by a bored Jack Russell, I speak from a personal experience...

To summarize, I think you should work with a rescue, to match you with a dog that is perfect for you AND your lifestyle. Have a few breeds in mind and look for one that will connect with you...
:thumbs up Good Luck

cassiek
August 31st, 2010, 12:45 AM
Can't add much here as a lot of great advice has already been given. But, do keep us posted with your search, garyb! :)

It can take some time to find the perfect dog, but it will happen and it will be so worth it! :thumbs up I know at the humane society we have people that come in multiple times to spend time with the dogs one-on-one to find that perfect match for their home. It can take some time, and it will usually take a few days at least for the rescue to review your application and process it, but it's such a great feeling being able to provide a home for a dog that truly needs it. :lovestruck: I do hope you choose to go with a rescue. :cloud9:

Petfinder is a great resource for finding a dog to add to your home. You can specify age, sex, gender, breed etc.

Like others here, I think an adult or senior dog would fit into your lifestyle perfectly.

Good luck!!

garyb
August 31st, 2010, 06:54 AM
I want to thank everybody so much for their help and advise. As my wife and I will spend a great deal of time looking into several different options and hopefully sometime in the spring or early summer we will be able to post a picture of the newest addition to our family.
Again, we both thank you so very much for all your help and assistance during our time of grieving.

mastifflover
August 31st, 2010, 09:18 AM
Garyb I live in downtown Toronto and if you want I do not have a car but if you would like I could drive your car and take you wherever you would like to see potential rescues. Pm me if you would like to take me up on my offer. I am finishing this documentary on the 10th and will be free hopefully not for too long

Love4himies
August 31st, 2010, 09:30 AM
GaryB,my husband and I are in our mid-60's live a relatively active lifestyle,love the outdoors,but were we to adopt a dog,he would definitely have to be older.
There are thousands of loving grown dogs,who for no fault of their own end up in a shelter.:(

You and your wife should visit a few shelters,meet different dogs,maybe even take them for a walk,if allowed and you would see for yourself,how grateful they are for any attention.
Maybe you would even fall in love.

What a great idea, chico :thumbs up

mastifflover
August 31st, 2010, 09:39 AM
I agree a puppy is too much work. I think a 2 year old dog would be great. Love the idea of a French Bulldog could be ideal fit

garyb
August 31st, 2010, 09:40 AM
Thanks so much for your most generous off. We do have a car, but we are going to wait until at least spring before we make any decision. We have a great deal of research to do and a lot of grieving left in our hearts before we actually decide how to proceed.
Again mastifflover, thanks for your offer. It only goes to show how much dog lovers really care, not only for their pets but for people who love their pets as well.

mastifflover
August 31st, 2010, 09:43 AM
Well the offer stands when you are ready

garyb
August 31st, 2010, 09:45 AM
again, I thank you so very much.

happycats
August 31st, 2010, 11:40 AM
Here's a great place to start.

http://www.petfinder.com/index.html

catlover2
September 1st, 2010, 10:01 PM
A friend of mine just got a rescue Papillon, and she is a darling little dog lap dog always wanting to be with her. Very well behaved, obedient and quiet, not yappy at all. Has a nice silky non-matting type of coat that just needs a comb run through it, no grooming like with a poodle or schnauzer. My brother got a rescue Cockapoo, and he's a very sweet dog too, quiet, and obedient. They're smitten with him. Both these people are seniors too.

garyb
September 2nd, 2010, 09:42 AM
thanks catlover2. Do you know if they get both from the same place. if so, where and if not from which two places?

Monkey68
September 2nd, 2010, 10:47 AM
Firstly condolences on the loss of your beloved dog. This is not an easy thing and certainly takes time. You are clearly moving forward with your decision to add another family member when you are ready.

While again rescues are the first choice through reputable organisations if you want a breed recommendation my vote is Pug (BTW there are also pug rescues). Its all Good, Good, Good. No loud barking, lots of love, friendly with people and dogs alike and great couch potatoes (awesome in the winter). But yes, all dogs require some exercise.

The only thing is, you need to be ready for a mascot who will sleep on your head (if allowed on the bed) snore and snort and follow you everywhere. For me this is sheer joy, but its all subjective.

I wish you the best of luck in your search and I hope that with time you are able to gain closure and know that you did everything you could for your little friend who is now at rest.

dbg10
September 2nd, 2010, 12:45 PM
GaryB I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your beloved dog. :pray::rip: I'm sure it will be a few months before you feel ready to take on a new member of your family. However, you may also run across one that just grabs your heart and your decision will be made very quickly.

My last two dogs have been senior rescues but a senior is not for everyone. I based my choice for a senior on my lifestyle and the fact I don't want the dog to outlive me. Everyone has to make the decision for themselves for what age of dog will fit into their lifestyle. In my experience most small dogs under 15 lbs can get enough exercise running around a condo, but they all like their walks for socialization.

There are many excellent all breed rescue groups as well as specific breed rescues. As everyone has mentioned http://www.petfinder.com/ (http://www.petfinder.com/awo/index.cgi?location=Toronto+ON&keyword=) is a great place to find a list of these rescue organizations as well as a place to find the dogs they have in their shelters. The link I gave is to the list of organizations in the Toronto area. Many have young dogs, even puppies who have been born while in their care.

All rescue organizations listed on the Petfinder site have to be screened before they are listed so it is extremely unlikely you would find a puppy mill or backyard breeder registered there.

In my experience all reputable rescue organizations have a mandatory home visit before they will adopt one of their animals, so if you can't make it to them they will likely come to you. However it is always good to see where the dog is living now before choosing your forever companion. A lot of rescue organizations have their dogs in foster homes rather than have a shelter where the animals are housed.

I wish you good luck when you are ready to adopt, it has usually taken me 6 months before I am ready to accept another dog into my heart and home but everyone is different when they are grieving. :thumbs up

catlover2
September 2nd, 2010, 02:04 PM
thanks catlover2. Do you know if they get both from the same place. if so, where and if not from which two places?

My brother got his Cockapoo from a rescue place north of Calgary, AB. My friend got her Pap from a Papillon breeder somewhere east of Peterborough, ON . If you're interested I could ask her for the name and send you a Private Message (PM).

There is also a Papillon Rescue organization in Canada: http://www.papilloncanada.org/rescue.htm

garyb
September 3rd, 2010, 07:33 AM
Thanks everybody, just keep those posts coming as they are helping us with our grief and also giving us my information and many suggestions in which direction to go.

RobinH
September 6th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Hi Garyb

I'm so sorry to read about your loss. I know how heart wrenching it is.

I thought I'd tell you about my little dogs... for ideas for breed.

First, I have a Westie-Poo. West Highland White Terrier x Toy Poodle. He is THE best friend EVER!!! He will be 2 at the end of November and is just about the best all round smart, funny, good natured.. and the best cuddler of all times. He loves to walk but also gets a lot of exercise around the house playing fetch or just clowning around. I got him as a puppy and I agree with all who have advised you to check out rescues. :) :)

Second, I have a Rescue that I just adopted last January. She is 3 now. She is either a Westie-Cairn called a Cairland or she is a Glen of Imaal x (I just sent for a DNA kit to find out what she is... out of curiosity and to understand her better :)) Some might say that a Rescue is already socialized... and in commenting toward that .. I have to 'beg to differ'.. Our Rescue is the most sweet loving little girl that I could want... but she is still adjusting and I've been told it would probably take about a year for her full personality to come out. It is SO rewarding to adopt a Rescue dog.. but don't be fooled that there is less of a time commitment involved. I don't work (due to an accident) so I am home for her full time.... and she so needed all that time. She was easy to train for 'going' outside.. but we are working on things like 'trust' .. well working is not the right word.. more like showering her with love. She's like velcro to me... if I got up from my laptop right now and went upstairs.. I'd feel her little wet nose on the side of my leg with every step.

If I ever add to my favorite friends family :) it will be with another Rescue. .. and I love the Westie Mixes :) :) Good Luck with your choices!! :)

garyb
September 7th, 2010, 07:30 AM
Hi RobinH,
thanks for all the info. My wife is not sure she would like too adopr from a rescue as she had a very bad experience with a rescue around 12 years ago and it almost caused us not to get another dog.
Right now we have made small (?) list of potentials. It includes Havanese, Norfolk Terrier, Louchen, Coton De Tulear, and Bolognese. They seem to be the right disposition and from waht we've read seem fairly healthy. Whatever we choose it won't be until next spring at the earliest. so keep those suggestions, thoughts and ideas coming. and we do appreciate everybody's kind words.
Thank you so very much and it is helping us get through this terrible tragedy.

BenMax
September 7th, 2010, 08:09 AM
Hi RobinH,
thanks for all the info. My wife is not sure she would like too adopr from a rescue as she had a very bad experience with a rescue around 12 years ago and it almost caused us not to get another dog.
Right now we have made small (?) list of potentials. It includes Havanese, Norfolk Terrier, Louchen, Coton De Tulear, and Bolognese. They seem to be the right disposition and from waht we've read seem fairly healthy. Whatever we choose it won't be until next spring at the earliest. so keep those suggestions, thoughts and ideas coming. and we do appreciate everybody's kind words.
Thank you so very much and it is helping us get through this terrible tragedy.

It is very sad that a negative incident would set the presidence. Like anywhere else, there are good places and others that are questionable. If you contact these rescues or at the very least read up on them, you will be assured that they are sound. Don't let one bad experience 12 years ago, taint your wanting to rescue an animal in dire need to be loved and cherished once again. A rescue animal will give you oodles of love and devotion. I say the very same for animals that are sitting in shelters that need that special someone to give them that second chance at life.

Please remember this as we in rescue see so many worthy loving animals at the end of the deadly needle or worse...the gas chamber...it just is not right.

14+kitties
September 7th, 2010, 08:11 AM
It is very sad that a negative incident would set the presidence. Like anywhere else, there are good places and others that are questionable. If you contact these rescues or at the very least read up on them, you will be assured that they are sound. Don't let one bad experience 12 years ago, taint your wanting to rescue an animal in dire need to be loved and cherished once again. A rescue animal will give you oodles of love and devotion. I say the very same for animals that are sitting in shelters that need that special someone to give them that second chance at life.

Please remember this as we in rescue see so many worthy loving animals at the end of the deadly needle or worse...the gas chamber...it just is not right.

Very well put newly engaged woman!! :thumbs up
One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch. Hmmm, that's a song title, isn't it? Seriously garyb, please don't shut out rescues. Sometimes they are the last hope for dogs (and cats) who deserve their forever home.

garyb
September 7th, 2010, 09:44 AM
Please don't get the wrong idea. We have not ruled out shelters and rescues by any means. I just wanted you to be aware that we had a bad experience that's all. Once the time comes, we will decide on our newest family member by the type of dog available for us to love and spoil and not necessarily the place to get one.

BenMax
September 7th, 2010, 10:03 AM
Please don't get the wrong idea. We have not ruled out shelters and rescues by any means. I just wanted you to be aware that we had a bad experience that's all. Once the time comes, we will decide on our newest family member by the type of dog available for us to love and spoil and not necessarily the place to get one.

We have all had bad experiences with something or other in a lifetime, but it should not hinder 'trying it again' but with more experience under our belts. Heck, I have had bad experiences with bad animal owners and I keep working to try and educate and/or provide assistance to re-home. The animals depend on us to not give up on them because of people who are ignorant. They (the animals) should not pay that price.

Just my :2cents:

garyb
September 7th, 2010, 10:29 AM
Thanks, like the saying goes "I needed that"!

BenMax
September 7th, 2010, 10:35 AM
Thanks, like the saying goes "I needed that"!

Thank you for taking it the right way.:thumbs up.

garyb
September 7th, 2010, 10:40 AM
No problem, my friend. That's what we are here for, to add support, information and knowledge to others.

garyb
October 31st, 2010, 08:25 AM
Any of you who have been following this thread know about our concerns about a new dog. Well at first it was "we would wait until next spring or summer" and "we didn't want to adopt".
Well, everyone meet Walle, a 9 month old 10.16 pound Shiz Tzu Maltese crossbreed (referred to by many names but we will use MalShi as it is the easiest to pronounce. He had been originally purchased by a women living in Toronto, from a breeder in Quebec (thus the strange spelling of the name. It is pronounced Wally). She purchased him for her daughter (kids never do look after their pets, do they) but found that there was not enough time for him so he spent at least 12 hours a day in a cage. The women contacted Adopt-A-Life Save A Dog who put him in with a foster mom who was a dog walker. I saw him on line and he seemed to be saying "come get me". So we filled out the papers, saw him last Tuesday and brought him home on Friday. He was taken to the vet on Saturday, just to be sure and she was amazed how healthy and well adjusted he was. He is a bouncy, bubbly ball of white fluff who hasn't sat still since he got here.
Anyway, just wanted to let everyone know our happy ending.

14+kitties
October 31st, 2010, 09:10 AM
That is wonderful news!!! Now you can post many many pictures of Walle in our photography forum. He is beautiful.
No matter what his mixes are he is a very handsome dude!!

garyb
October 31st, 2010, 09:24 AM
Thanks, we are looking forward to many years of happiness with Walle

luckypenny
October 31st, 2010, 11:01 AM
Congratulations to both your family and Walle, Gary!

garyb
November 1st, 2010, 07:28 AM
Thanks and enjoying every minute. He is such an active little guy. And being from Quebec also, he barks bilingually

Love4himies
November 1st, 2010, 07:46 AM
Oh what a sweetie pie :cloud9::lovestruck: Congrats!

rainbow
November 1st, 2010, 03:17 PM
Walle is very cute :lovestruck: .....so glad you found the right little pupper for you and your wife. :goodvibes:

Tundra_Queen
November 2nd, 2010, 07:49 AM
awww Gary he is adorable!!! Congrats to u and your wife and Walie!! But u aren't going to tease us with just one pic are u? :D

catlover2
November 3rd, 2010, 02:50 PM
Walle, what a cute name for such a cutie patutie....he's adorable. I'm sure you'll have many happy years with him. Congratulations! :thumbs up