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mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Clearing out some more of Declan's gear I came across a bottle of phenylpropanolamine pills and noticed that they are in plain gelatine capsules ~ no drug manufacturer markings. Ceili's Propalin (phenyl.) was in liquid form and direct from the manufacturer.

Now, phenyl. is banned as an OTC in Canada and I don't think it can be prescribed except for veterinary use. Has anyone else seen phenyl. in powdered form and as a banned pharmaceutical, why aren't there manufacturer markings on the capsules?

Chris21711
April 5th, 2010, 02:06 PM
I have no idea on what you're asking MMM, but on Friday I was clearing out meds for the guys and came across Cocoa's :rip:.....it was hard going :( so :grouphug:'s to you.

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 02:29 PM
Yup. I know it's still fresh but that big ol' boy has and always will, a big piece of real estate in my heart.

:grouphug: to you too kid.

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 02:58 PM
Yep, rainbow has many pawprints all over her heart ....big hugs to both of you as well. :grouphug:


Mums, where did you get the phenylpropanolamine pills from? :confused:

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 03:02 PM
The Vet.

I wasn't up to noticing much of anything at the time if truth be told but, I sure wish I had.

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 03:12 PM
Could you not ask the vet who the manufacturer is?

Frenchy
April 5th, 2010, 03:14 PM
I got all excited by this thread for a minute ....

backing out now :D beep ... beep .... beep ....

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 03:21 PM
I got all excited by this thread for a minute ....

backing out now :D beep ... beep .... beep ....


LOL ....I didn't find what I was expecting either. :D

Frenchy
April 5th, 2010, 03:22 PM
LOL ....I didn't find what I was expecting either. :D

:laughing:

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 03:22 PM
Could you not ask the vet who the manufacturer is?

I could I suppose but I'm still considering lodging a complaint against them regarding Declan's diagnosis and care.

Given it's banned status in Canada, I'm thinking along the lines that it may be a placebo. If I pursue the complaint, I'll have the pills analyzed at an independent lab. I just wondered if anyone had ever received anything like this from their Vet.

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 03:23 PM
LOL ....I didn't find what I was expecting either. :D

That's because you're in my front yard.

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 03:53 PM
I could I suppose but I'm still considering lodging a complaint against them regarding Declan's diagnosis and care.

Given it's banned status in Canada, I'm thinking along the lines that it may be a placebo. If I pursue the complaint, I'll have the pills analyzed at an independent lab. I just wondered if anyone had ever received anything like this from their Vet.

Sorry, mums, I didn't know. :grouphug:

I would think that coming from the vet they should have some markings on them. :shrug:


That's because you're in my front yard.

Ummm, I'm confuzzled. :confused: :o

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 04:19 PM
That's because you're in my front yard.

Frenchy: I got all excited by this thread for a minute ....

backing out now beep ... beep .... beep ....
Today 03:12 PM

Flowers in the front, herbs in the back. :D

Frenchy
April 5th, 2010, 04:20 PM
Flowers in the front, herbs in the back. :D


"That's because you're in my front yard."

strangely , I did understand that one :laughing:

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 04:21 PM
"That's because you're in my front yard."

strangely , I did understand that one :laughing:

How did I just know you would? :D

It's Rainbow in the land of Granny's Grow-Op I'm surprized at!

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Flowers in the front, herbs in the back. :D

"That's because you're in my front yard."

strangely , I did understand that one :laughing:

How did I just know you would? :D

It's Rainbow in the land of Granny's Grow-Op I'm surprized at!


LOL .....I fergotz that you guys are city peeps :D ....us country folks grow what we want where ever. :laughing:

sugarcatmom
April 5th, 2010, 06:25 PM
Has anyone else seen phenyl. in powdered form and as a banned pharmaceutical, why aren't there manufacturer markings on the capsules?

My guess is that the powder is from a compounding pharmacy rather than an actual manufacturer.

....us country folks grow what we want where ever. :laughing:

Par-tay at rainbow's place!!!! http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Smoking/smoking-030.gif (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Smoking-Smileys.html)

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 07:55 PM
My guess is that the powder is from a compounding pharmacy rather than an actual manufacturer.

I have had other meds from a compound pharmacy in an unlabelled form sans monograph and that would make sense if it wasn't a banned substance Sugarcatmom. I'll need to blow the dust off some legislation but I think it has to be dispensed in a formula directly by the manufacturer for liability reasons.

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Par-tay at rainbow's place!!!! http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Smoking/smoking-030.gif (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Smoking-Smileys.html)


Better wait until the weather gets better cuz it's sure crappy out right now. :frustrated:

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 08:09 PM
Still????

:eek: The crops! The crops!!!!! :yell:

:D:D

Frenchy
April 5th, 2010, 08:16 PM
LOL .....I fergotz that you guys are city peeps :D ....us country folks grow what we want where ever. :laughing:

:laughing: good one Rainbow :p

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 08:19 PM
Still????

:eek: The crops! The crops!!!!! :yell:

:D:D

Yep, BC's economy is going to take a big hit if it doesn't change soon. :D



:laughing: good one Rainbow :p

Ya know, I don't even grow the stuff, but I've often said to hubby that it would be a good way to supplement the lousy gov pension income. :laughing:

Frenchy
April 5th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Ya know, I don't even grow the stuff,

yes Rainbow , ok Rainbow http://bestsmileys.com/music2/11.gif

:laughing:

rainbow
April 5th, 2010, 08:26 PM
yes Rainbow , ok Rainbow http://bestsmileys.com/music2/11.gif

:laughing:

Yooze iz getting me confused with that other old gal from Ontario. :D

hazelrunpack
April 5th, 2010, 08:26 PM
MMM, they didn't ban PPA until quite recently here--is it possible Declan's pills were from a compounding pharmacy from pre-ban times?

sugarcatmom
April 5th, 2010, 09:32 PM
I have had other meds from a compound pharmacy in an unlabelled form sans monograph and that would make sense if it wasn't a banned substance Sugarcatmom. I'll need to blow the dust off some legislation but I think it has to be dispensed in a formula directly by the manufacturer for liability reasons.

Banned for human use, yes, but I thought it was still available for veterinary use from compounding pharmacies with a prescription. I wonder if you were to contact Summit Veterinary Pharmacy (http://www.svprx.ca/) in Aurora if they would be able to give you more info.

http://gazette.gc.ca/archives/p2/2005/2005-06-15/html/sor-dors167-eng.html

mummummum
April 5th, 2010, 10:01 PM
It's been banned as an OTC for at least four or five years here Hazel.

Thanks Sugarcatmom!!! Now if I can just get the cobwebs cleared out of the ol' brain box...:D