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Need rescue/adoption information

placid
March 25th, 2010, 04:36 PM
First, let me apologise if this query is placed in the wrong forum. I wasn't sure where to place it since most of the other resuce forums seem to see little use.

I'm seriously considering rescuing a dog, however there are several concerns that I have. I'm hoping that some members here will be able to "enlighten" me. That being said, please DO NOT bash me for my own personal opinions/beliefs. Please respect that my ideas/opinions may not be shared by everyone, but does not make them any "less" than someone else's.

I'm looking to adopt/rescue a dog of a purebreed background only. I've done careful and extensive research into certain breeds, know the look and characteristics that I'd like, but most improtantly I'd like to try and adopt/rescue a dog that was bred from a reputable breeder. The reason for this would simply be a better chance at some genetic benefits such as temperament and health. I also would like to adopt a baby/young dog. My reason for this is two-fold. I'm looking for an energetic dog, and a dog that would be easily integrated into our household - ie; less baggage than an older dog, which would mean less time I'd have to spend re-training.

I know I may get some people's "backs-up" by what might be perceived as "generalization" on my part, but I have my reasons. I don't want to have a greater chance of having to spend big money on vet bills by obtaining an ill-bred dog, and I do have a young family. If I were single, or a couple household only I'd have more time to re-train a dog. My spouse and I look forward to adopting more dogs in the future, but for now we need to be specific in what we are looking for.

That being said, I've looked on Petfinder and haven't found what I'm looking for. There were limited numbers of the specific breeds that I was looking for, and I know that there must be tones more out there. If members would kindly direct me to other sites I might find useful????

Breeds that I am currently interested in are;-

German Shepherd Dog
German Short-haired Pointer
Doberman
English Setter
Rough Collie (possibly)
**please note that these breeds are not cut-in-stone, but are at the forefront.

Are there any local breed specific rescues that members might be aware of?? I checked into one for GSD, but there wasn't much available.

Also, has anyone had personal success in changing a dog's name? Sounds silly, I know, but I'd hate to find a dog that "fits" only to get hung-up on the name. KWIM????

Any other tips/advice would also be appreciated.

Thanks.

aslan
March 25th, 2010, 04:39 PM
first off welcome to the forum,,now down to business. no rescue will be able to guarantee that a dog came from a reputable breeder. Actually they can pretty well guarantee that they didn't as a reputable breeder usually has it in their contract that incase you can't keep the dog it is to be returned to them..best advice would be to google breed specific rescues in and around your area.

BenMax
March 25th, 2010, 04:43 PM
A reputable breeder's dog will not or rather 'should not' wind up in a shelter or a rescue. It has happened (as we have one) but it is very rare.

If you are intent however going the breeder route, you can find out who is ethical/reputable and ask if they have any dogs that have been returned to them. They take their dogs back if not wanted for whatever reason, and try to re-sell them.

Just a footnote. The purebred that we have also came with papers...but the dog has since been sterilized and the papers will NOT go with the dog. The breeder who is situated in France knows we have the dog and agreed to let us take care of the adoption.

Frenchy
March 25th, 2010, 04:46 PM
I'm looking for an energetic dog, and a dog that would be easily integrated into our household - ie; less baggage than an older dog, which would mean less time I'd have to spend re-training.


You seem so have misconceptions about rescue dogs. You will not get an healthier dog because he/she is a purebred. Also , older dogs will often won't need as much training than a younger one. :shrug:

What you need to do is to look at each dog's profile for their temperament. You may be surprise :thumbs up

first off welcome to the forum,,now down to business. no rescue will be able to guarantee that a dog came from a reputable breeder. Actually they can pretty well guarantee that they didn't as a reputable breeder usually has it in their contract that incase you can't keep the dog it is to be returned to them..best advice would be to google breed specific rescues in and around your area.

aslan is totally right. I know the breed specific rescue I use to foster for , if an owner had a dog from a breeder and wanted to surrender the dog to us , this owner HAD to ask the breeder first , or we had to contact the breeder as a good one will take the dog back.

placid
March 25th, 2010, 04:46 PM
Thanks for the quick response. For the skeptics out there -I should note that I could care less if the dog is fixed - I'm NOT looking to breed.

Yes, you would think that a "reputable" breeder would have this stipulation written into their contract. However, I do know that not every breeder can take in all unwanted dogs. Unfortunately they are more likely to do this if the dog is young and unaltered - that way they can "slide" them into their breeding program. That's not to say that all breeders are like this, only to point this out.

I am possibly meeting up with a couple this weekend who is looking to re-home a 2yr. old Shepherd from a very "reputable" breeder, papered, trained, guaranteed against genetic defects, etc. Unfortunately the reason the breeder is probably not going to take her back is because she is spayed. I don't know this for certain, but would probably bet money on it.

Frenchy
March 25th, 2010, 04:48 PM
Thanks for the quick response. For the skeptics out there -I should note that I could care less if the dog is fixed - I'm NOT looking to breed.



If it's a good rescue , the dog will be spayed or neutered before getting adopted.

aslan
March 25th, 2010, 04:49 PM
Thanks for the quick response. For the skeptics out there -I should note that I could care less if the dog is fixed - I'm NOT looking to breed.

Yes, you would think that a "reputable" breeder would have this stipulation written into their contract. However, I do know that not every breeder can take in all unwanted dogs. Unfortunately they are more likely to do this if the dog is young and unaltered - that way they can "slide" them into their breeding program. That's not to say that all breeders are like this, only to point this out.

I am possibly meeting up with a couple this weekend who is looking to re-home a 2yr. old Shepherd from a very "reputable" breeder, papered, trained, guaranteed against genetic defects, etc. Unfortunately the reason the breeder is probably not going to take her back is because she is spayed. I don't know this for certain, but would probably bet money on it.

that is NOT a reputable breeder plain and simple.

BenMax
March 25th, 2010, 04:52 PM
There is some very interesting things you bring up. But formost a 'reputable' breeder is SUPPOSE to take their dogs back spayed or not. Infact, if the dog is spayed it is because it was stipulated in the contract.

Reputable Breeders are obligated to take their dogs back into their possession unless they wish to relinguish their rights to the dog...in writing.

Frenchy is right. Rescues and shelters are suppose to respect a breeders' dogs and advise that they are in possession of these dogs. From there, an agreement can be made.

placid
March 25th, 2010, 04:55 PM
that is NOT a reputable breeder plain and simple.

Yes, which is why I use this term loosely. This breeder is however, repsonsible in the sense that they have used "careful" breeding in their program. The dogs to be bred are carefully screened for temperament, and against genetic defects such as hip/elbow dsylpasia. I do know that the breeder has been informed. I also know that she suggested that the couple seek an adoption fee of approx. $500.00 to rule out "undesirables". Go figure.

@Frenchie.........again I understand that I am not "guaranteed" against things such as genetic defects, and character traits, but my chances are increased (esp. with regards to genetic defects) when a dog has been "carefully" bred.

satchelp
March 25th, 2010, 04:58 PM
Unfortunately the reason the breeder is probably not going to take her back is because she is spayed. I don't know this for certain, but would probably bet money on it.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume the breeder will not take the dog back. I know lots of breeders who will take any of their dogs back, altered or not. What they do, after they take them back, is look for another home for them and usually it ends up that they place them with people who have contacted them who were originally looking for a puppy. Also, I do rescue for the breed I'm involved with and the breeders also know to ask us if we have anyone looking for a rescue, as these people are usually interested in the dogs that are returned to the breeders as well (fortunately, we don't get a lot of rescue dogs, so have no problem doing this). Also, a good breeder will not breed a dog just because it is still intact. There is something called the 'breed standard' as well as health test results, and temperament to consider when deciding whether to use a dog or not.

placid
March 25th, 2010, 05:00 PM
[QUOTE=satchelp;901089]I wouldn't be so quick to assume the breeder will not take the dog back. QUOTE]


Sorry........editted in above post with regards to this.