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Hit and Run drivers of critters

Kay9
February 1st, 2010, 03:33 PM
What is up with drivers who don't even slow down when they can clearly see a squirrel crossing the street? :censored: imbeciles.

When I see a squirrel, I've even come to a full stop, while the little critter decides which way he wants to go.

I don't understand people.:shrug:

Jim Hall
February 1st, 2010, 06:41 PM
wll around here they dont stop for humans either :shrug:

quincymycat
February 1st, 2010, 06:44 PM
Some people are just in a hurry and some people really don't care.:(
I stop for everything. I had a bunch of Canada Geese crossing the roadway at Costco one day and stopped and let them go...not so the impatient guy behind me who pulled past and accelerated as fast as he could...to prove his point he was frustrated I guess! :yell:
Case in point, the little stray I have living in my house right now was crossing a street close to my house. She just stopped and froze in the middle of the street. If it had been someone beside me at that moment, she might not be curled up in a bed in my kitchen right now.
My car has a personalized plate and bumper stickers that should be a clear warning to people behind me that I will slow and stop for animals if needed. And that includes squirrels!:laughing:

erykah1310
February 1st, 2010, 06:50 PM
I know someone who is now in a wheel chair for avoiding a rabbit. Slamming on ur brakes or swerving is not the greatest idea out there

Kay9
February 1st, 2010, 06:51 PM
wll around here they dont stop for humans either :shrug:

:laughing:

Kay9
February 1st, 2010, 06:53 PM
I know someone who is now in a wheel chair for avoiding a rabbit. Slamming on ur brakes or swerving is not the greatest idea out there

that's really awful! :cry:

But hey, I'm not talking about life-threatening efforts--just plain ole` animal kindness!

Kay9
February 1st, 2010, 06:54 PM
Some people are just in a hurry and some people really don't care.:(
I stop for everything. I had a bunch of Canada Geese crossing the roadway at Costco one day and stopped and let them go...not so the impatient guy behind me who pulled past and accelerated as fast as he could...to prove his point he was frustrated I guess! :yell:
Case in point, the little stray I have living in my house right now was crossing a street close to my house. She just stopped and froze in the middle of the street. If it had been someone beside me at that moment, she might not be curled up in a bed in my kitchen right now.
My car has a personalized plate and bumper stickers that should be a clear warning to people behind me that I will slow and stop for animals if needed. And that includes squirrels!:laughing:

I'm gonna get me a sticker for my car that says, "This car stops for critters and has nuclear warhead for impatient drivers".:evil:

Macomom
February 1st, 2010, 07:09 PM
I also know someone who was in a life threatening accident because she made a decision not to hit a cat.
She has made a full recovery, but she rolled her accident was very serious.

quincymycat
February 1st, 2010, 07:17 PM
I think the big word here is common sense Anyone who knows me, knows I do not drive highways...nervous type.. and don't drive all that fast to begin with. Can't afford insurance if you get speeding tickets! :laughing: If you are on a highway going 90km per hr, you don't slam the brakes on for a bunny...a moose, perhaps, because you will lose that one!
I think the essence here is driving in subdivisions, where you will find many critters, AND CHILDREN and your speed should be such that you can avoid hitting anyone/anything without causing critical injury to anyone.

Etown_Chick
February 1st, 2010, 08:11 PM
Sorry, I won't risk my life or safety, or anyone else's,to avoid a squirrel. I'm sure that offends some, but I place humans over rodents.

Stacer
February 1st, 2010, 08:58 PM
The speed of your vehicle and proximity to other vehicles should be taken into consideration.

I always try to brake for all the little beasties. But I don't want to get rear ended either. Luckily I've only ever hit one groundhog *crosses fingers it's the only one ever*

MyBirdIsEvil
February 2nd, 2010, 12:11 AM
I brake and stop for animals if I can do so safely, but yeah I'm not going to swerve out of the way and cause a wreck or injure myself to avoid a squirrel. I don't think anyone was suggesting anyone else to do that. I think they were more talking about the people that have the opportunity to stop and just don't give a crap. I've even seen people speed up trying to hit stuff.

quincymycat
February 2nd, 2010, 07:02 AM
I think the big word here is common sense

your speed should be such that you can avoid hitting anyone/anything without causing critical injury to anyone.

I think this is what we all mean....I hope no one goes out into their car to see exactly how many critters or people they can "get" either through deliberation or accident.
We've all had people we know injured and it isn't always because a critter was involved. Human factor is the big one and common sense is needed for everything, not just driving, but walking and thinking! :2cents:

Macomom
February 2nd, 2010, 08:50 AM
My friend, the one who got in the car accident- did so consciously. She is a vegan and an animal activist, and chose not to hit the cat. She fully understood she was risking her life- or so she said afterward.
Interesting perspective.

TacoGrl
February 2nd, 2010, 02:41 PM
A few years back when I had my Jeep, we were all going out wheeling/camping...about 20 Jeeps in a row...I hit a gopher...a really BIG one...didn't even see it running...came from the passenger side and I felt it...we all stopped...I was devastated...we buried it at the side of the road...it was great to see all the Jeepers helping dig and not one made me feel bad for caring.

I am always looking ahead to see if there are any critters and will avoid them if I can...the thing I don't get though is why they run in front of cars? I mean cats are smart...dogs are smart...I have seen signs sqirrels are smart, but they still run in front of cars! :frustrated:

Kay9
February 2nd, 2010, 07:22 PM
A few years back when I had my Jeep, we were all going out wheeling/camping...about 20 Jeeps in a row...I hit a gopher...a really BIG one...didn't even see it running...came from the passenger side and I felt it...we all stopped...I was devastated...we buried it at the side of the road...it was great to see all the Jeepers helping dig and not one made me feel bad for caring.

I am always looking ahead to see if there are any critters and will avoid them if I can...the thing I don't get though is why they run in front of cars? I mean cats are smart...dogs are smart...I have seen signs sqirrels are smart, but they still run in front of cars! :frustrated:

I can so relate to that. I was a passenger with a friend who was driving his minivan on a highway at night time, when out of nowhere came two deer. My friend managed to avoid one deer, but hit the second one. The bang and thud was so sickening. It so happened that we were driving past a rest stop when this happened, so he drove the van over to the rest stop. He got out to look at the van, and I thought we were going back to check the deer! :loser:

A few cars that were behind us also pulled over to the rest stop because they were swerving to avoid hitting the deers. In one of the cars was this stupid yahoo who proclaimed that the deer was a fresh kill, and it would probably be okay if we went back to the carcass and got ourselves some deer meat. :eek: :frustrated:

Stinkycat
February 3rd, 2010, 02:05 PM
The worst was, I was driving home late at night on a hwy that is "usually" busy but wasn't that night, I saw a raccoon crossing the street so I slowed down, then the racoon stopped in the road, so I pulled over to see that it would get off the road, it didn't, so I pulled over, got out, and as I was crossing the road a car came and ran the racoon over!!:eek: Seriously this was the worse sound I have ever heard, the poor thing could barely move off the road as it was screeching...... I tried to call somebody to pick this raccoon up but the place was closed!

I cried for days.:cry:

I'm so stuck on animals being treated fairly that I won't even date a guy who has killed one, even for food. Luckily I found a guy who hates those people just as much as I do.

Kay9
February 3rd, 2010, 02:23 PM
The worst was, I was driving home late at night on a hwy that is "usually" busy but wasn't that night, I saw a raccoon crossing the street so I slowed down, then the racoon stopped in the road, so I pulled over to see that it would get off the road, it didn't, so I pulled over, got out, and as I was crossing the road a car came and ran the racoon over!!:eek: Seriously this was the worse sound I have ever heard, the poor thing could barely move off the road as it was screeching...... I tried to call somebody to pick this raccoon up but the place was closed!

I cried for days.:cry:

I'm so stuck on animals being treated fairly that I won't even date a guy who has killed one, even for food. Luckily I found a guy who hates those people just as much as I do.

There aren't enough mad emoticons for me to click on, honestly. That :censored:hole!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm the same way re relationships. I'll be cordial, but nothing beyond that to people who hunt. I cannot be their friend, let alone anything more. (I do, however, make the exception for the Inuit and other indigenous peoples of the world, whose very existence depends upon hunting.;))

Stinkycat
February 3rd, 2010, 03:07 PM
Yes I have no problem who hunt animals because they are native or even live in the booneys where there are no meat stores. Its the slime buckets who live in houses right close by a supermarket and go buy a gun and go shooting deer, caribou, rabbit ect.

My dad use to hunt ducks WAY back in teh day, he took me and my sister out, for bonding time, and well lets say, when he killed one, me and my sister CRIED so hard and started screaming that he decided not to hunt anymore. lol.

clm
February 3rd, 2010, 03:55 PM
I've never hit a dog or cat, but have had the misfortune of hitting a coyote a skunk and a squirrel. Couldn't avoid any of them and felt terrible hitting all of them. I will not risk my life and other peoples to avoid hitting an animal that darts out in front of me. I'm not a speeder either, all of these animals were hit at night on a road posted 80 with the exception of the squirrel, that ran across the street and then changed it's mind and ran right back directly under my car.

I have stopped when I could for geese and squirrels and do watch intentley for beasties that may dart out, but sometimes it's not possible to do anything but hit them.

clm

aslan
February 3rd, 2010, 05:51 PM
I too have hit a rabbit in the wee hours of the morning i didn't see him until it was right there,, i pulled over and made sure the little one was dead and moved his body to be buried..I think some of the things i've seen people do with an animals body that has been hit is worse than actually hitting it...

Kay9 and Stinkycat, just out of curiosity are you both vegan or do you eat meat?

Kay9
February 3rd, 2010, 07:35 PM
I too have hit a rabbit in the wee hours of the morning i didn't see him until it was right there,, i pulled over and made sure the little one was dead and moved his body to be buried..I think some of the things i've seen people do with an animals body that has been hit is worse than actually hitting it...

Kay9 and Stinkycat, just out of curiosity are you both vegan or do you eat meat?

No, I'm not vegan. I eat almost no red meat, only chicken. :)

hazelrunpack
February 3rd, 2010, 07:37 PM
Sigh. Well, at least I get cordial from Kay9. :rolleyes: :p

Macomom
February 3rd, 2010, 07:45 PM
Me too Hazel. At first, I thought you meant cordial- like the booze...

I just wrote a paragraph about my conviction for hunting instead of buying styrofoam encased meat in the "SuperSuperSuper Store" all wrapped in plastic and completely disconnected from the dignity of living and dying humanely- but then I erased it 'cause I thought- maybe people don't want to go there. :D

Kay9
February 3rd, 2010, 07:59 PM
well, Hazel, you do get brownie points for being a dog lover. :thumbs up

And macomom--nice try but specious argument! :laughing:

hazelrunpack
February 3rd, 2010, 08:05 PM
well, Hazel, you do get brownie points for being a dog lover. :thumbs up

And macomom--nice try but specious argument! :laughing:
Her argument is mine, Kay9.

We have 8 working hunting dogs at home. Working, as in 'hunting'. That means we do, on occasion take birds. I find it much more ethical to take a bird from the wild than from a mass-production chicken facility. :shrug:

Kay9
February 3rd, 2010, 08:12 PM
....and my bone of contention is how people can find it enjoyable to kill a sentient being for sport.

I don't think we will agree about this one, so we probably should agree to disagree.

Macomom
February 3rd, 2010, 08:14 PM
We eat it.
No sport involved.

hazelrunpack
February 3rd, 2010, 08:16 PM
We kill to eat, just as you kill to eat, Kay9. The difference lies in the life that comes before.

But I agree--we should agree to disagree. :D

MyBirdIsEvil
February 4th, 2010, 02:37 AM
If I hit and killed a deer accidentally I would take it home and eat it...
It's legal as long as you inform the conservation department you're doing so.

I don't see how it would be better to leave it on the side of the road to rot.

There are a ton of people around here that are poor and need food. At the least I would give the meat away to them if I wasn't going keep it.

Even if you disagree with hunting, I don't see how that applies to something that's already been accidentally killed.

aslan
February 4th, 2010, 06:27 AM
We kill to eat, just as you kill to eat, Kay9. The difference lies in the life that comes before.

But I agree--we should agree to disagree. :D

the difference is you kill to eat hazel,, Kay9 doesn't she goes to the grocery store to buy her meat. Just wondering if she's ever seen how any of the animals, chickens included are treated...I don't hunt, never have but personally seems alot more humane than an animal that is being abused then terrified then slaughtered..

If an animal in the wild is killed buy a hunter ( not talking some drunken yahoo with a shotgun) and the hunter takes the carcass home for food i don't have a huge issue with it. I'd rather that than the poor pig that is jammed into a truck with a few hundred others that can't move and driven off to be spiked in the head.

Golden Girls
February 4th, 2010, 07:03 AM
wll around here they dont stop for humans either :shrug:True enough. Swerving or slamming on my breaks wouldn't be a good idea however instinctively I would

HP The difference lies in the life that comes before Nice :thumbs up

luckypenny
February 4th, 2010, 07:13 AM
.... how any of the animals, chickens included are treated...I don't hunt, never have but personally seems alot more humane than an animal that is being abused then terrified then slaughtered..

Just wanting to add to that, commercial laying hens are crammed into battery cages, often not even standing room available, nor are they able to spread their wings. Beaks are cut off to prevent cannibalism (a result of their environment). They never see the light of day. In a laying hen factory, male chicks are often killed as they serve no purpose. Broiler chickens are genetically manipulated to have grossly large breasts and thighs where the chicks' feet quickly become deformed and organs are unable to support them. They live a short life of excruciating pain.

Why people selectively choose which animals should/shouldn't be eaten, and the manner in which they are killed ie. hunted vs. factory farmed is based on personal biases and misinformation imo :2cents:.

To get back on topic, I only once killed a bird that flew into the front of my car on a highway. I can't explain how terrible I felt.

jenny3
February 4th, 2010, 11:58 AM
I agree that if you can stop safely, try to stop, I have been fortunate enough to never hit an animal, I have stopped for a wild turkey, I have also eaten them. I think as long as you eat what you hunt then it is O.k. I do not like animals been killed for no reason.

Kay9
February 4th, 2010, 12:03 PM
A point of clarification: I don't have a "chicken-only" diet because of some misguided belief that chickens are protected from inhumane treatment in farming facilities. I'm well aware of what happens in the ole` chicken factory. I have this type of diet because I can't seem to reconcile my love of, and need to protect sentient beings with my human needs. But that's my own moral dilemma and is neither here nor there.

My position, again, is this: I take umbrage with the PLEASURE which MOTIVATES humans to hunt for SPORT. That's my opinion. If you disagree, I'm ok with that.

Another point of clarification: I also said that I would be unable to form close friendships with those who desire to hunt in this fashion. Also true. But you know what? I doubt hunters would want me to be their best bud either. However, this doesn't mean I hate their guts and that I erase them as human beings (which is maybe what some of you think I meant.) Indeed, in spite of our lack of commonality on these issues, the hunters in my life and I are quite friendly and civil. We just don't date, get married, share our deeply held secrets, or discuss hunting. ;)

Love4himies
February 4th, 2010, 12:13 PM
I live out in the country and my daily commute involves highways that go through wooded areas and THANK GOODNESS I have never hit anything because I think it would be some time before I could drive again. Every time I see a dead animal on the side of the road, I shed a little tear for them :( :cry:

My whole drive is keeping an eye out on the side of the road for wee eyes and I use my brights when ever I can, it makes a huge difference in seeing to the side of the road.

I have come very, very close as I do get deer, bunnies, coyotes and fox running out in front of me.

friend2animals
February 4th, 2010, 12:27 PM
I have always "braked" for living creatures...Fortunately, I have never hit any.

Although, once I ended up in the ditch after swerving to miss a deer that had leaped out from the bush into the middle of a dark country concession road...

Stinkycat
February 4th, 2010, 12:35 PM
I don't eat meat, I'm not a vegan but a vegetarian. I still eat cheese and put milk in things.

Still, I don't see a point in slaughtering something when there is plenty already dead.

Chris21711
February 4th, 2010, 02:13 PM
I don't eat meat, I'm not a vegan but a vegetarian. I still eat cheese and put milk in things.

Still, I don't see a point in slaughtering something when there is plenty already dead.

This thread is not about whether one agrees with hunting or not......can we stay on topic.

Kay9
February 4th, 2010, 02:24 PM
This thread is not about whether one agrees with hunting or not......can we stay on topic.

Actually, the original post wasn't about hunting at all; it was about people arbitrarily running over critters. :laughing:

Stinkycat was merely answering a question asked of her and I earlier. :)

Chris21711
February 4th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Actually, the original post wasn't about hunting at all; it was about people arbitrarily running over critters. :laughing:

I'm fully aware of that.

Stinkycat was merely answering a question asked of her and I earlier. :)

Yep, Aslan asked the question since one or the other had brought hunting into the thread.

aslan
February 4th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Yep, Aslan asked the question since one or the other had brought hunting into the thread.

yup that's exactly why i asked the question,,and i also responded to the original topic too.:D

lUvMyLaB<3
February 6th, 2010, 07:03 AM
Last summer we were up at clear lake, an hour north, to enjoy nature, moose, elk, bear, we were in wasagaming and this car comes zooming down the road, there was a sqirrel, and they didnt even slow down. Amazing, there in paradise, where animals are always on the road, (national park) someone could show such little regard...
The squirrel was injured, fatalily, but was hanging on to life, i screamed as i saw him struggling on the road, drew quite a crowd, many didnt think i was crazy, and loved the little guy too..
He was suffering very badly, very badly, he really struggled, we made a makeshift gas chamber with a persons van. As sick as it sounds. . We couldnt watch him suffer in such pain, for probably hours before he would certainly die. It was so heartbreaking, i will never forget it.
I have never hit anything, and i hate when someone does, and keeps going like nothing important happend.

I do disagree with hunting, and also large scale factory farming. I believe if one must eat meat it should be domestic animals created for meat, raised humanely, and organicaly, and killed and prepared with respect. I dont eat meat, my family does, i get all the meat from friends, neighbors, and take it to an abbatoir i trust. I will never buy an egg from the store that is not free run and organic, that is the most cruel industry.
We rescued 3 young commercial hens, they were at a trade show where they had the stackable cages set up to show the public what it is like. We begged for days for some, repeatedly were told no, as they are commercial chickens, geneticly modified, and the public is not allowed to own them. Finally after 6 days the man caved, threw 3 into a box and told us to get out of there fast! There were many left behind.
They lived free, a huge warm house, they made a new nest everyday, and they would all lay their egg in the same place. We let them out loose every a.m. And they would return at night. It was awesome to take them home and watch them spred their wings for the first time!

Kay9
February 6th, 2010, 04:07 PM
I just had to post this; it seems so apropos of what we've been talking about.

Enjoy :lovestruck:

http://www.wimp.com/babymoose/

james0225
February 6th, 2010, 04:21 PM
Some people only thing about themselves and their own agenda. However, stuff like that upsets me too. I can't stand when I am crossing the street with my Dog and a driver seems to get closer than further to us.

Kay9
February 6th, 2010, 04:28 PM
This is too cute--it's hard to make out the mama duck and ducklings, but this highway officer is my hero :flirt::lovestruck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgxIDgf5E4