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rainbow
November 13th, 2009, 04:13 PM
ABC's 20/20 is airing a segment tonight (Nov.13) about women who own too many cats. Should be interesting what kind of spin they will put on it. :rolleyes:

14+kitties
November 13th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Thanks rainbow. Guess I better watch it. :rolleyes:

ancientgirl
November 13th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Oy boy, this could either be good or bad.

Luvmypitgirls
November 13th, 2009, 07:41 PM
That's an easy one to answer...when you have more than you can afford to feed and vet, then you have too many. Same with dogs in my opinion.

Recently here, like a couple days ago, there was a place raided near Medicine Hat, they had cats in the house, cats locked up in two sheds, all in poor health. Started out with a couple and bred them, and kept breeding and breeding until they were overrun with felines!

They are in the care of a rescue, who is begging for foster homes and donations to aquire the best medical care they can get for these darlings.

:sad:..will ppl never learn?

UTANRO
November 13th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Oooo, can't wait to see this. I just read the excerpt on tvguide.com, and said it's women who hoard cats. Yikes. Wonder how bad it'll be...

Frenchy
November 13th, 2009, 09:45 PM
I'm watching it right now :eek: it's kind of sad :sad:

UTANRO
November 13th, 2009, 09:49 PM
Did I hear that correctly... the last woman has 123?? :eek:

And the first woman... her house... my goodness. :sad:

The second woman didn't seem so bad to me.

rainbow
November 13th, 2009, 10:35 PM
It's not on here for another 1 1/2 hours ...if it's a downer let me know so I won't have to log off here to watch it.

Frenchy
November 13th, 2009, 10:38 PM
It's not on here for another 1 1/2 hours ...if it's a downer let me know so I won't have to log off here to watch it.

no no , not a downer , well , not about the cats :p it's just that .... those ladies don't seem to have too many people in their lives :sad: which explains the need to have so many cats.

14+kitties
November 13th, 2009, 10:42 PM
I do believe this was an excerpt of a show they have previously aired? Or a rerun of it.
It would figure instead of taking the chance to show people who truly want to help cats they picked women who were slightly off the wall. Why could they not get in touch with the woman in California who has between 700 to 900 on her 7 acres? Why didn't they take the chance to talk to animal shelters to find out how bad the problem is? Why didn't they try to track down some other rescues across the country? Maybe that would have helped get the message out instead of creating an even worse image of "crazy cat women". :wall:

rainbow
November 13th, 2009, 10:43 PM
no no , not a downer , well , not about the cats :p it's just that .... those ladies don't seem to have too many people in their lives :sad: which explains the need to have so many cats.

So, the media doesn't make it look like people with a multi cat house are all looney hoarders?

rainbow
November 13th, 2009, 10:45 PM
I do believe this was an excerpt of a show they have previously aired? Or a rerun of it.
It would figure instead of taking the chance to show people who truly want to help cats they picked women who were slightly off the wall. Why could they not get in touch with the woman in California who has between 700 to 900 on her 7 acres? Why didn't they take the chance to talk to animal shelters to find out how bad the problem is? Why didn't they try to track down some other rescues across the country? Maybe that would have helped get the message out instead of creating an even worse image of "crazy cat women". :wall:

:sad: okay, now I don't think I'm going to watch it.

hazelrunpack
November 13th, 2009, 10:46 PM
So, the media doesn't make it look like people with a multi cat house are all looney hoarders?

No, they just suggested all multi-cat people were loonies... :frustrated:

Frenchy
November 13th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Why didn't they try to track down some other rescues across the country?

I think this was more about why some women hoard cats ... and IMO , for once , they didn't make them sounds as crazy as they usually do. They showed how and why they "became" that way.

So, the media doesn't make it look like people with a multi cat house are all looney hoarders?

Maybe some who were watching thought those ladies were crazy. I saw smart , but lonely ladies. :shrug: 2 out of the 3 were way over their heads , and one of those 2 , was very well aware of it.

Frenchy
November 13th, 2009, 10:50 PM
No, they just suggested all multi-cat people were loonies... :frustrated:

I didn't see it that way Hazel. I think they made an effort to show that some of them had good jobs. One of them is still working , and her house looked pretty clean for that many cats.

14+kitties
November 13th, 2009, 10:53 PM
:sad: okay, now I don't think I'm going to watch it.

I'm sorry rainbow. Watch it. It is only about 10 minutes out of the whole show. Interesting but it doesn't help fix the image IMO.

I think this was more about why some women hoard cats ... and IMO , for once , they didn't make them sounds as crazy as they usually do. They showed how and why they "became" that way.
Maybe some who were watching thought those ladies were crazy. I saw smart , but lonely ladies. :shrug: 2 out of the 3 were way over their heads , and one of those 2 , was very well aware of it.

The first lady was clearly very intelligent. She just had way too many kitties who were not very healthy and a house that was a pig sty. The real estate agent.. why did they have to leave in a reference to the pills she used to take? I guess maybe I am a little too sensitive to this subject. :o
You are right Frenchy, it could have been worse I suppose.

hazelrunpack
November 13th, 2009, 10:54 PM
Didn't you notice how fragile she seemed, though? Not everyone with a lot of cats is as mentally fragile as these women seemed to me :shrug:

Smart, yes...lonely, yes...mentally 'off'...yes.

The reporter was focussed on the 'crazy' part...she certainly wasn't interested in getting out the message that some do it because there is such a need for it. Or is she was, IMO she didn't do a very good job getting the idea across. :shrug:

rainbow
November 13th, 2009, 11:01 PM
I'm still torn as to whether to watch it or not. :o

Is it on at the beginning, middle or end of the show? :o

14+kitties
November 13th, 2009, 11:01 PM
Didn't you notice how fragile she seemed, though? Not everyone with a lot of cats is as mentally fragile as these women seemed to me :shrug:

No, we aren't. :p

The reporter was focussed on the 'crazy' part...she certainly wasn't interested in getting out the message that some do it because there is such a need for it. Or is she was, IMO she didn't do a very good job getting the idea across. :shrug:

See, that's what I picked up on too. She didn't have anything positive to say at all. It's the whole "making the news exciting" thing I suppose.

Now that I've had my rant I gotta get to bed. I have lots of cats to feed in the morning. :rolleyes:

14+kitties
November 13th, 2009, 11:02 PM
I'm still torn as to whether to watch it or not. :o

Is it on at the beginning, middle or end of the show? :o

The middle. The first part of the show was very good. About a poor girl who was shot in the face by her boyfriend. What a marvelous gal she has become. Well worth watching. :thumbs up

hazelrunpack
November 13th, 2009, 11:04 PM
I'm still torn as to whether to watch it or not. :o

Is it on at the beginning, middle or end of the show? :o
In the middle. It was sort of interesting...just not what I'd hoped for. :shrug:

Now that I've had my rant I gotta get to bed. I have lots of cats to feed in the morning. :rolleyes:

:laughing:

Nite, 14+. Sleep well! :D

Tundra_Queen
November 13th, 2009, 11:06 PM
I would take in a lot of kitties just because they need me and I care about them. But I would also try to get them adopted out.

The lady with the 16 was ok, the one with 123 and spending 3,000 a month was over the top and the older woman with the dirty house needed help in my opinion.

I would of loved to see that lady with the 700 cats and dogs interviewed. I love the fact that she has helpers and lets the cats go outside and mix with the pups and is qualified to medicate the sick kitties.That place is wonderful!!

growler~GateKeeper
November 13th, 2009, 11:10 PM
I'm still torn as to whether to watch it or not. :o

Is it on at the beginning, middle or end of the show? :o

Rainbow you can always watch it online including past stories http://abcnews.go.com/2020 btw I haven't seen it yet

UTANRO
November 13th, 2009, 11:23 PM
To me, I found it shined a wrong light. Like another posted said, they could've spent that time better talking about the cat overpopulation problem and shedding some focus on the work shelters and rescues do.

To me, it was almost... a waste. Like a time-filler. Because they kept focusing on the "crazy cat lady" thing.

The woman with 16 cats, really wasn't that bad. I mean, she looks professional, her house looked clean, she only had 16 and they looked in good shape. I really didn't see any negativity there...

But the first woman... wow. Her home was so filthy, they said her furniture had been removed because it was deemed unsanitary by the health department. That's pretty bad, and the poor woman looked so frail. She looked as though she was barely able to care for herself, much less all those cats.

And the woman with 123? Not sure what to make of that... wow.

I think they focused on hyping it up for media attention, continuing the "crazy cat lady" thing, instead of focusing on the real problem, that these women (at least 2 of the 3) needed help. The first woman truly needed some mental help very badly. The one with 123 KNEW she had too many, admitted to it, and I do believe that she just got in way over her head and knew there was a problem.

Glad it wasn't about dogs tonight... I could hear my friends now. :rolleyes:

rainbow
November 14th, 2009, 01:33 AM
I ended up not watching it as the boys were wanting in and out at the time it was on. :rolleyes:

Growler ...thanks for the link :thumbs up and hopefully I will find time to watch it. :D

chico2
November 14th, 2009, 07:52 AM
I did not like the "crazy cat-lady"segment it said nothing about the problem of irresponsible cat-owners,or the reason why cats end up strays:sad:
It was just more fuel to the notion of crazy cat-ladies..:evil:which to most people is nothing but a joke.

I agree the older lady has problems,her house was not good for her or the cats,the lady with the 123 cats,was overwhelmed,but the younger woman with 16 cats,I would hardly call a hoarder....but you know,even I who only have 3 cats have been called nutty for caring.

The show should have ended with an attempt at solving the problem of "stray"cats,IMO.

Frenchy
November 14th, 2009, 09:30 AM
I think you guys missed the point , it wasn't about cat overpopulation !! It was about those ladies. They never said it was about rescuing cats , cats overpopulation etc ... they said it was about the ladies , and that's it.

A while ago , there was something on Global about cat rescues , and that's what they talked about , cat rescues and overpopulation. And they didn't talk about crazy cats ladies. :shrug:

Love4himies
November 14th, 2009, 09:44 AM
I agree the older lady has problems,her house was not good for her or the cats,the lady with the 123 cats,was overwhelmed,but the younger woman with 16 cats,I would hardly call a hoarder....but you know,even I who only have 3 cats have been called nutty for caring.

The show should have ended with an attempt at solving the problem of "stray"cats,IMO.

I too am known in the neighbourhood as a being :crazy: for caring so much for the strays and having 4 cats :sad:. Added with the fact that I make my own cat food and won't feed cheap crap, some people just roll their eyes at me:sad:.

Frenchy
November 14th, 2009, 10:19 AM
some people just roll their eyes at me:sad:.

Really ? It bothers you ? :confused: it shouldn't :shrug:

some people think the same of me with my 4 dogs , 3 cats , and the foster dog now and then .... but others think it's cool. :shrug: so I don't really care about the ones who think I'm a little wacko :D

UTANRO
November 14th, 2009, 10:29 AM
Don't worry L4H, I've been looked at like I'm :crazy: too.

I've been called a hoarder more times than I can count. Sometimes as a joke by friends, but many times by people that don't even know me, but simply make that assumption after hearing how many dogs I own. :frustrated:

I just don't let what people say about me affect me. Anytime I mention having 15 dogs, I get the :eek: look most of the time. I just laugh it off, and say "Yep, and couldn't be happier!" and walk off. :thumbs up

14+kitties
November 14th, 2009, 11:11 AM
I think you guys missed the point , it wasn't about cat overpopulation !! It was about those ladies. They never said it was about rescuing cats , cats overpopulation etc ... they said it was about the ladies , and that's it.
A while ago , there was something on Global about cat rescues , and that's what they talked about , cat rescues and overpopulation. And they didn't talk about crazy cats ladies. :shrug:

Maybe I did miss the point Frenchy. But in my opinion there are many people out there who own multiple cats. They probably had a large number to choose from. I feel they took the three that seemed the most "off" and showed them. That was the point I was trying to make. It could have been done in a much more favourable way so as not to perpetrate the notion of crazy cat ladies. :shrug:

ancientgirl
November 14th, 2009, 11:41 AM
Yep, everybody in my family thinks I'm nuts. My best friend, although not a big pet person, understands. She knows these furry little packages of love and wonder are my life.

I don't care who thinks I'm nuts. Nobody gives me anything and they don't know my life. They have no idea what goes on in my head so they can go :censored::censored::D

I love my babies and am happy I have each and every one of them.

NoahGrey
November 14th, 2009, 11:45 AM
Anyone know where I can see this espode,since I missed it.

I am very interested in seeing it, since I have dealt with situations like these.

ACO22

Luvmypitgirls
November 14th, 2009, 02:06 PM
I just watched it, thanks for the link.

My heart goes out to the two older women. I don't think the youngest one really has much of an issue, but I certainly hope she doesn't take in anymore.


The older lady, with the rundown shack of a house, whose furniture was taken away by the health board, well I say shame on them for leaving her in those conditions, not to mention the poor cats.
This woman has a heart of gold, you can tell she loves each and every one of the cats she rescues, but seriously she needs help, serious help! But I will say this, she seems very happy and content, and I think that really is part of the message here, part of the problem as the reporter conveys.

The woman with 123 cats, I wanna know how she keeps that house so clean and tidy! I was simply amazed at how clean it was. Cluttered but clean.
I hate to say it, but she really needs to call a shelter or a rescue to help her rehome at least 110 of those cats. I see this woman at risk of committing suicide, she looked so empty and in her own words "resents" the situation.

chico2
November 14th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Another thing,they said cat-ladies are lonely,unhappy people with no friends,that's why they have cats and to be absolutely honest,I often prefer the company of animals to some people I have known.
I don't have many friends who understand the bond and the love we have for our cats/dogs or whatever:cat::dog:

ancientgirl
November 14th, 2009, 05:05 PM
I really hate the media sometimes. I don't think it's fair they keep perpetuating this whole "women who are lonely and unhappy own cats."

I may not be happy all the time, but it's for lots of reasons that many people share.

Animals aren't judgmental like many people are. That's why I prefer their company most of the time.

UTANRO
November 14th, 2009, 06:33 PM
The woman with 123 cats, I wanna know how she keeps that house so clean and tidy! I was simply amazed at how clean it was. Cluttered but clean.
I hate to say it, but she really needs to call a shelter or a rescue to help her rehome at least 110 of those cats. I see this woman at risk of committing suicide, she looked so empty and in her own words "resents" the situation.

I totally agree. 123 is beyond a problem... I can't understand how someone could take in that many without having some sort of underlying mental condition. But, she recognizes there is a problem, so as you said, a shelter or rescue really needs to step up and rehome many of the cats. I'm sure the woman would be more than willing, considering she knew she had too many and was in over her head.

I did have to chuckle though, as she went around the house counting every cat, to make sure all 123 were there. I felt her pain, I do the same with my 15 everytime I get ready to go somewhere. :rolleyes:

Another thing,they said cat-ladies are lonely,unhappy people with no friends,that's why they have cats and to be absolutely honest,I often prefer the company of animals to some people I have known.
I don't have many friends who understand the bond and the love we have for our cats/dogs or whatever:cat::dog:

^^ this right here is well written. I am very happy, I have friends, but the friends I have are a select group (mainly fellow rescue volunteers) who understand that the house has a bunch of dogs, and you will come inside and get dog hair on your clothes and slobber on your face. And yes, they will bark, they're dogs.

But, I prefer the company of my dogs too. I'm not a recluse, by any means. I'm very active in what I do, I hang out with friends when I can, but at the end of the day, I'd rather be with my dogs than anyone else. Their company can outbeat the company of many humans anyday. :D