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Is it safe for us to wash pet dishes with ours?

Tundra_Queen
October 31st, 2009, 01:02 AM
Hi
Is it safe for us to wash cat and dog dishes with ours?

I wash them in our dishwasher and I was just wondering if doing that would make us sick? I do put bleach in with them too.

Debbie

growler~GateKeeper
October 31st, 2009, 01:04 AM
I don't have a dishwasher, I don't use bleach, I feed raw & wash Duffy's dishes with mine, I'm fine :)

I don't see any reason it would make you sick.

TeriM
October 31st, 2009, 01:20 AM
I run ours through the dishwasher with our regular stuff :shrug:.

ScottieDog
October 31st, 2009, 09:25 AM
I put the dog dishes in the dishwasher with my dishes and run together using the sanitize function. And to add to the grossness.... I use Corningware for my dog dishes and sometimes eat out of Cassie's clean bowls. She bolts her food, so I feed her in my flat bottomed soup bowls. So if you ever come to visit and I serve soup....;) I love the sanitize function!

catlover2
October 31st, 2009, 10:48 AM
Is it safe? I suppose so as most dishwashing detergent already has bleach included. I think it's a personal preference. I've always washed my pet dishes separately with separate scrubber only used for the pets.

Longblades
October 31st, 2009, 11:52 AM
What are the pet dishes made of? I've read you should not put some plastic, synthetic types of materials in the dishwasher (or the microwave) and definitely not on the top rack (which is often the only safe place for the dish) because chemicals can leach out of them and onto your other dishes. This applies to any dish, pet or human. I use china fruit nappies for the cats and wash them in the dishwasher. The dog's dish is stainless steel and I do it in the sink after the rest of my own pots and pans are done.

rainbow
October 31st, 2009, 12:59 PM
I don't have a dishwasher either and wash my dogs/cats dishes/bowls with ours and don't use bleach and, like Growler, we're fine here too. :D

hazelrunpack
October 31st, 2009, 01:16 PM
I hand wash the eight dog bowls plus the four water bowls (all stainless steel) with our dishes, too--and, except for having sprouted a few extra personalities and a third ear, we've noticed no ill effects! :laughing:

Seriously, though--I do wash all the dishes together, even if the dogs are sick, and we haven't caught anything. :shrug:

MyBirdIsEvil
October 31st, 2009, 01:48 PM
Why would it be unsafe?

Their dishes aren't going to be any worse than dishes you've chopped up raw meat on or something. And domestic dogs don't have any special pathogens that can be passed to people that people can't already pass to each other as far as I know :shrug:.

Longblades
October 31st, 2009, 02:57 PM
I just googled "dog pathogens humans" and got several hits. Of course there are several illnesses than can pass to humans from dogs but the likliehood of it happening is low if you and the dog are healthy and you wash your hands and the critters' dishes. Soap is actually pretty scary stuff when you read what it does. We had Work Place Health and Safety Sheets on the soap in the washrooms. Rinsing is important after you wash, dishes or hands.

MyBirdIsEvil
October 31st, 2009, 02:59 PM
I just googled "dog pathogens humans" and got several hits. Of course there are several illnesses than can pass to humans from dogs but the likliehood of it happening is low if you and the dog are healthy and you wash your hands and the critters' dishes. Soap is actually pretty scary stuff when you read what it does. We had Work Place Health and Safety Sheets on the soap in the washrooms. Rinsing is important after you wash, dishes or hands.

How many of those hits are pathogens that aren't already going to be passed to you from your dog just by contact, or can't be passed from human to human already? Or are worse than what you can already get from normal dishes that aren't cleaned sufficiently?

That's my point. You're probably at no greater risk than from your own dirty dishes.

Longblades
October 31st, 2009, 04:12 PM
Most were not likely to be human to human (rabies and the worms, etc.) but I think you and I agree. The risk is low if both dog and human are healthy. If the human is immune compromised, like my friend with kidney disease, you might want to be more careful. The hospital study of therapy dogs was very interesting. It advises "cautious consideration." http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0196655305001914

Heck, I once let the dog "wash" my dutch oven, put it up on the countertop and the next time I used it thought, Oh, oh. Well darn it, I wasn't about to throw out beef stew. But I didn't tell the OH. :D Shsssh.

Tundra_Queen
October 31st, 2009, 04:16 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies. I don't use plastic for our pet dishes. Cats get china dishes like we use except a different colour, :D dog uses stainless steel dishes.

I put the dog dishes in the dishwasher with my dishes and run together using the sanitize function. And to add to the grossness.... I use Corningware for my dog dishes and sometimes eat out of Cassie's clean bowls. She bolts her food, so I feed her in my flat bottomed soup bowls. So if you ever come to visit and I serve soup....;) I love the sanitize function!

Interesting, I don't eat soup much anyways... LOL

I have an old dishwasher..what is the sanatize function? Is that when u turn on the heat to dry them?

What are the pet dishes made of? I've read you should not put some plastic, synthetic types of materials in the dishwasher (or the microwave) and definitely not on the top rack (which is often the only safe place for the dish) because chemicals can leach out of them and onto your other dishes. This applies to any dish, pet or human. I use china fruit nappies for the cats and wash them in the dishwasher. The dog's dish is stainless steel and I do it in the sink after the rest of my own pots and pans are done.

cats are china, dog's are stainless steel.

I hand wash the eight dog bowls plus the four water bowls (all stainless steel) with our dishes, too--and, except for having sprouted a few extra personalities and a third ear, we've noticed no ill effects! :laughing:

Seriously, though--I do wash all the dishes together, even if the dogs are sick, and we haven't caught anything. :shrug:

Hazel I like that 3rd ear of yours, I find it makes your face very slimming! :laughing:

Debbie

chico2
October 31st, 2009, 04:25 PM
I handwash my cat-dishes,but seeing I let my cats lick my ice-cream,butter off my toast and Rocky loves any coffecake I eat,if I did not get sick from that,I could probably eat off their dishes,not that I want to:laughing:

Tundra_Queen
October 31st, 2009, 04:30 PM
Most were not likely to be human to human (rabies and the worms, etc.) but I think you and I agree. The risk is low if both dog and human are healthy. If the human is immune compromised, like my friend with kidney disease, you might want to be more careful. The hospital study of therapy dogs was very interesting. It advises "cautious consideration." http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0196655305001914

Heck, I once let the dog "wash" my dutch oven, put it up on the countertop and the next time I used it thought, Oh, oh. Well darn it, I wasn't about to throw out beef stew. But I didn't tell the OH. :D Shsssh.

Thanks longblades. I have been diabetic for 47 years and have a bad heart. The last 6 days I have been fighting off that flu/cough cold that has closed down a few of our schools and breathing has been difficult at times. I guess that is what got me to thinking about the pet dishes. I was just curious if there was anything that could be passed from the pet dishes to ours.
After reading that link that u posted about dogs visiting hospitals I think I will keep adding the bleach to the dishwasher. :D

Debbie

Tundra_Queen
October 31st, 2009, 04:32 PM
I handwash my cat-dishes,but seeing I let my cats lick my ice-cream,butter off my toast and Rocky loves any coffecake I eat,if I did not get sick from that,I could probably eat off their dishes,not that I want to:laughing:


Thanks Chico...that's good to know. :laughing::laughing:

Debbie

Love4himies
October 31st, 2009, 04:37 PM
I am like Growler, my cats eat raw and there is no problem washing their dishes with mine.

Tundra_Queen
October 31st, 2009, 05:38 PM
thanks L4H. That's good to know, u don't have a 3rd ear too do ya? :D:laughing:

hazelrunpack
October 31st, 2009, 07:29 PM
Heck, I once let the dog "wash" my dutch oven, put it up on the countertop and the next time I used it thought, Oh, oh. Well darn it, I wasn't about to throw out beef stew. But I didn't tell the OH. :D Shsssh.

:o I have a "don't ask, don't tell policy", too! :laughing:


I have an old dishwasher..what is the sanatize function? Is that when u turn on the heat to dry them?

I think any time you dry the dishes thoroughly, it kills off most of the germs. But yes, drying them under heat would likely do the best job... Not that I have a dishwasher, 'cept for hubby, of course, so take what I say with a grain of salt. :D

Hazel I like that 3rd ear of yours, I find it makes your face very slimming! :laughing:


I think it just distracts people so they don't notice that I've gained weight! :laughing:

luckypenny
October 31st, 2009, 07:38 PM
Y'all have separate dishes for your pets :confused:??



:laughing:

I use a different sponge but only because it sometimes gets dog hair in it. Dh doesn't like to see that. For some reason he notices it in the sponge but not in his food :p.

krdahmer
October 31st, 2009, 07:49 PM
I handwash my cat-dishes,but seeing I let my cats lick my ice-cream,butter off my toast and Rocky loves any coffecake I eat,if I did not get sick from that,I could probably eat off their dishes,not that I want to:laughing:

:laughing: Same here....and most of my cooking does end up with a few stray furs in it....no one's died or got sick yet! I do use the dishwasher now, and everything goes in together.

aslan
October 31st, 2009, 07:53 PM
****note to self, don't eat at longblades.****, we hand wash them too and the only time i make sure i wash them last is if they have had greentripe in their supper.

ashtoreth
October 31st, 2009, 07:56 PM
i handwash titus's bowls, with a antibachterial soap, job done ! :)

ascott89
October 31st, 2009, 08:17 PM
I wash my pet dishes with my dishes by hand and rinse then well from the soap and never through anything of it.

I sometime end up with a little cat hair in my food.

Its just part of living with a pet.

ScottieDog
October 31st, 2009, 08:46 PM
The sanitize function just super heats the water or drying cycle to kill all germs. I got this on a dishwasher I've had less than 2 years. It wasn't a function on my original dishwasher. At that time, I washed the dog dishes by hand with paper towels I would toss away.

I can see where a person with an immune system compromise would need to use extra caution.

When I grow my third ear, I'll let you all know. :thumbs up

My dog dishes are either stainless or Corningware. I did use plastic for a while, but noticed that it turned Mac's beard red. I also had the cutest Mickey Mouse/Pluto dishes that I put away when all the lead paint scares happened. Cass eats so darned fast that I need a special bowl for her, but everytime I get ready to buy special dishes for her, I realize I don't have any shelf space for them so I keep using my dishes for her. I have one shelf in the cabinet for dog dishes, vitamins, medications. It is overkill now with only one dog.

rainbow
October 31st, 2009, 11:48 PM
I use a different sponge but only because it sometimes gets dog hair in it. Dh doesn't like to see that. For some reason he notices it in the sponge but not in his food :p.

:laughing:




Its just part of living with a pet.

Exactly. :thumbs up :cloud9:




When I grow my third ear, I'll let you all know. :thumbs up


Please post pics too. :D

Tundra_Queen
November 1st, 2009, 01:53 AM
:o I have a "don't ask, don't tell policy", too! :laughing:



I think it just distracts people so they don't notice that I've gained weight! :laughing:

Especially when u wear that HUGE gypsy earring you know, the one u can wear as a bracelet too! :laughing::laughing:

Y'all have separate dishes for your pets :confused:??



:laughing:

I use a different sponge but only because it sometimes gets dog hair in it. Dh doesn't like to see that. For some reason he notices it in the sponge but not in his food :p.

EWWWW I don't like it on my sponge either. LOL

And yes I have different dishes from my cats, as their taste in china is different from mine. :D willie especially likes the ones with flowers on them. :laughing:

****note to self, don't eat at longblades.****, we hand wash them too and the only time i make sure i wash them last is if they have had greentripe in their supper.

Ok, I think I'm gonna regret asking this,,,but what is greentripe?

Tundra_Queen
November 1st, 2009, 01:00 AM
i handwash titus's bowls, with a antibachterial soap, job done ! :)

I thought all soap was antibacterial?
*********

Originally Posted by ScottieDog
When I grow my third ear, I'll let you all know.

Rainbow said...

Please post pics too.
******
Rainbow....

:laughing: If everyone with a third ear would let us take pics of them, we could make a calander and all money raised could help spay and neuter stray cats!! :D

Debbie

rainbow
November 1st, 2009, 01:02 AM
Ok, I think I'm gonna regret asking this,,,but what is greentripe?

http://www.greentripe.com/

Frozen is best but not always available in small towns like where we live. :sad:

You can get the canned stuff though and Tripett is the best imo ....

http://www.tripett.com/

rainbow
November 1st, 2009, 01:04 AM
Don't buy the Merrick brand though .....even though their label says 100% tripe it is NOT 100% green tripe.

TacoGrl
November 1st, 2009, 07:31 AM
If you think about it, kids are dirtier than most pets!

As for anti-bacterial soap...I have read time and time again that the anti-bacterial soap really does nothing more than regular soap...the amount of time it has to stay on your hands to actually do anything is much longer than any of us leave it there, plus our germs mutate so much that we would have to be updating the chemicals in the soap regularly...simply washing your hands thoroughly with soap and warm water is supposed to be good enough. :shrug:

As for the dishes thing...my cats sleep with me, lick my face, eat out of my bowl when I am not looking...the list goes on...they are house cats...I leave the house everyday...I would think they probably have more to worry about from me than I them. :shrug:

chico2
November 1st, 2009, 07:39 AM
There is a strange phenomena in my house,hubby is the only one who gets a little extra in his food,like one little tiny cat-hair,I never do:confused::laughing:

Why would you need to disinfect cat-dishes??I just clean them out and dry with paper-towel,I have stainless steel dishes and no deformities yet:cat:

chico2
November 1st, 2009, 07:52 AM
Tacogirl,right on:thumbs up
We live in a disinfecting society and are going to end up with a generation of allergy-sufferers,our immune-system need a workout ever now and then to be effective.

Longblades
November 1st, 2009, 08:31 AM
Tacogirl,right on
We live in a disinfecting society and are going to end up with a generation of allergy-sufferers,our immune-system need a workout ever now and then to be effective. We believe this too. NO anti-bacterial cleansers of any kind at our house. There were reports in the paper once about kids in families with a pet suffering less asthma and kids in less than super clean houses having fewer illnesses. The supposition being exactly what chico2 said, the healthier kids were those exposed to allergans, dirt etc. whose bodies built up defenses.

lUvMyLaB<3
November 1st, 2009, 09:17 AM
Oh, that is something i have never thought about, i let my animals use my dishes all the time, heck i share ice cream with my dog, i just wash them as usual, no biggie to me, i think restaurant dishes would be worse, who knows who ate off those, and who last sucked a piece of meat off that fork, haha we dont usually think about that!

quincymycat
November 1st, 2009, 10:02 AM
Everything goes in the dishwasher.
I share yogurt with the kitties from the same spoon, so I can't see anything wrong with washing the dishes together. I have to admit though, I don't usually do it in front of company...for some reason some people really don't understand this...:D
I bought a bunch of fruit nappies at the market one time for 2/$1 and I admit that I was more afraid that the glaze on them would be harmful to the kitties than any harm it may do to myself for using them for ice cream as a double purpose - cat food/ice cream dishes.....:lightbulb:maybe a new marketing idea?

Choochi
November 1st, 2009, 10:42 AM
We use a seperate dog designates sponge for the dog dishes only because of the amount of drool and dirt that usually comes off them, I don't want that on my own dishes. Other then that no special treatment. After all we let them lick us and sleep with us.

Tundra_Queen
November 1st, 2009, 04:59 PM
Don't buy the Merrick brand though .....even though their label says 100% tripe it is NOT 100% green tripe.

Rainbow thanks for those links. :)

Thanks everyone for your opinions. I will just keep washing them in the dishwasher with ours. And for all you 3rd ear growers...don't forget to send in your pictures! :laughing::laughing:


Debbie

ashtoreth
November 1st, 2009, 11:24 PM
I wish, but nope, I was surprised when someone at work told me that o.0


I thought all soap was antibacterial?
*********



Debbie

cpietra16
November 2nd, 2009, 07:19 AM
OMG..I would never wash my dog /cat dishes with my own dishes. I use to do that and last year I noticed that my kids acquired a taste for kibbles and my dog and cats demanded a fork and knife and I won't even get into my kids scratching at the door to go out..and my lab trying to use the toilet...and ....

:D

actually I don't have a dish washer and I have to say that Winnie our Lab is always used a pre-washer, a job he does with gusto...:thumbs up

chico2
November 2nd, 2009, 10:07 AM
cpietra:laughing::laughing::laughing:

MyBirdIsEvil
November 15th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Most were not likely to be human to human (rabies and the worms, etc.) but I think you and I agree. The risk is low if both dog and human are healthy. If the human is immune compromised, like my friend with kidney disease, you might want to be more careful. The hospital study of therapy dogs was very interesting. It advises "cautious consideration." http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0196655305001914

Heck, I once let the dog "wash" my dutch oven, put it up on the countertop and the next time I used it thought, Oh, oh. Well darn it, I wasn't about to throw out beef stew. But I didn't tell the OH. :D Shsssh.

Lmao. I thought I was the only one that did that. Now I wash any dishes the dogs have licked right afterward every time because I'm paranoid about it.

sugarcatmom
November 15th, 2009, 05:07 PM
I wish, but nope, I was surprised when someone at work told me that o.0

Actually, plain old soap IS antibacterial. Check out the link rainbow posted about household chemicals: http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=848801&highlight=chemicals#post848801

And these:
http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin-care/cleansing/myths/question692.htm
http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/hotnews/32h138409.html

"It makes you wonder why they call it antibacterial, because according to our research, it isn't any more so than plain soaps," said Elaine Larson, PhD, RN, associate dean for research at the Columbia University School of Nursing, New York, principal investigator of the study. "We found antimicrobial or antibacterial soaps provide no added value over plain soap."

Tundra_Queen
November 15th, 2009, 07:51 PM
OMG..I would never wash my dog /cat dishes with my own dishes. I use to do that and last year I noticed that my kids acquired a taste for kibbles and my dog and cats demanded a fork and knife and I won't even get into my kids scratching at the door to go out..and my lab trying to use the toilet...and ....

:D

actually I don't have a dish washer and I have to say that Winnie our Lab is always used a pre-washer, a job he does with gusto...:thumbs up

rotflmbo..... :laughing::laughing:

Actually, plain old soap IS antibacterial. Check out the link rainbow posted about household chemicals: http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=848801&highlight=chemicals#post848801

And these:
http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin-care/cleansing/myths/question692.htm
http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/hotnews/32h138409.html

I always figured it was just a marketing trick. I told my hubs that when commercials started saying anti bacterial soap.

meow
November 16th, 2009, 01:18 AM
Hi
Is it safe for us to wash cat and dog dishes with ours?

I wash them in our dishwasher and I was just wondering if doing that would make us sick? I do put bleach in with them too.

Debbie
I would NOT use bleach to wash my dishes or my cat's dishes!!!! YOU ARE EATING BLEACH! Yes the dishes get rinsed but residue remains. I think your pets have a higher chance of getting sick from you than the other way around.

mastifflover
September 3rd, 2010, 01:26 PM
I have the same problem with the ceramics. I find letting them soak with dish soap and hot hot water helps. I wash Clarks with my dishes. I am so excited I found dog dishes in ceramic to match my dishes small things make me happy what can I say.

Love4himies
September 3rd, 2010, 01:46 PM
I know this is old but....


OMG..I would never wash my dog /cat dishes with my own dishes. I use to do that and last year I noticed that my kids acquired a taste for kibbles and my dog and cats demanded a fork and knife and I won't even get into my kids scratching at the door to go out..and my lab trying to use the toilet...and ....

:D

actually I don't have a dish washer and I have to say that Winnie our Lab is always used a pre-washer, a job he does with gusto...:thumbs up

:laughing::laughing::laughing: That is sooooooooo funny.



Actually, plain old soap IS antibacterial. Check out the link rainbow posted about household chemicals: http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=848801&highlight=chemicals#post848801

And these:
http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin-care/cleansing/myths/question692.htm
http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/hotnews/32h138409.html

:eek: I didn't know that, thanks for letting us know.

Longblades
September 3rd, 2010, 01:55 PM
But while we're on the topic of pet dishes... anyone have any tricks or tips for getting the film off of them? It's like water stains, but you can FEEL it. The dishes should be all smooth to the touch, but they're rough and bumpily. Is this a sign that I'm not washing them as much as I ought to or it's because we have hard water?Try a soak in vinegar. A bit in the bottom to cover, swish it up the sides, let stand for a bit, wipe off. Depending on how hard it's on there you may need a scrubbie but frequent vinegar will prevent that. The scrubbie will wear the surface of your dish. Yes, it's hard water. Wash the vinegar off, with, what else, more hard water and soap, start the cycle all over again. :shrug:

Frenchy
September 3rd, 2010, 02:01 PM
Try a soak in vinegar. A bit in the bottom to cover, swish it up the sides, let stand for a bit, wipe off. Depending on how hard it's on there you may need a scrubbie but frequent vinegar will prevent that. The scrubbie will wear the surface of your dish. Yes, it's hard water. Wash the vinegar off, with, what else, more hard water and soap, start the cycle all over again. :shrug:

VInegar is what I use too. I don't have a dishwasher , couldn't anyway with my well water. For the water dishes I put hot water , soap & vinegar , let it soak 10-15 minutes and scrub.

Longblades
September 3rd, 2010, 02:23 PM
I use pure vinegar to soak. I do not dilute with water. 5 minutes usually does it. Yes, that looks like the scubbie I use, without the sponge part. Scratch your glasses with that for a couple of years and you will see wear on them. I only use that on my pots/pans and never on my non-stick ones.

I don't have a dishwasher, couldn't anyway with my well water.How come? We're on a well and we have a dishwasher.

Frenchy
September 3rd, 2010, 02:34 PM
How come? We're on a well and we have a dishwasher.

Our water here in Sherrington is extremely hard. I like to rince my dishes with hot water and let it dry on the rack but if it's glass or silver, it leaves spots that don't come out with soap and water. The only thing that could clean the toilet bowl properly was muriatic acid !

Many people here don't have pool for that same reason. Before I took mine down , I would have to put wool socks on my feet to scrub the bottom. After a couple minutes of scrubbing , I would have to change socks because they were full of holes. One of my neighbor told me that his kids would come out of their pool with bleeding feet ! :eek:

Tundra_Queen
September 4th, 2010, 06:18 AM
I wash our puppies dishes separately, but only because they're large, heavy and ceramic and can easily break anything else in the sink.

But while we're on the topic of pet dishes... anyone have any tricks or tips for getting the film off of them? It's like water stains, but you can FEEL it. The dishes should be all smooth to the touch, but they're rough and bumpily. Is this a sign that I'm not washing them as much as I ought to or it's because we have hard water?

I do use a scrubbie when I wash them, and although it gets some of the film off, it doesn't get it all off. It doesn't seem to bother them any, but it sure bothers me because to me they're just not *clean*.

I was going to tell ya to use vinegar too,,but the others beat me too it. :D I'm glad u found it worked!

We have hard water here too and even though we have a water softerner it's not used in the summer cause I use town water to water my plnats. So the animals dishes tend to get a calcium buildup too.