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SO Frustrated!! Cat Owners Need to be More Responsible.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 02:30 PM
The DH and I are at our wits end.

Currently, we have two neighbors (one that is behind us and one beside us) that allow their cats to roam.

The neighbors behind us only juuuust started doing this with their cat because they're renovating their house. So what do they do? They put his LITTER BOX and his CAT SCRATCHER on their back deck and leave him out there. I have no clue if he's been allowed back in since the reno's started, but he can certainly tell we have cats (I'm assuming because he always comes to our back door) and meows and meows and meows to be let in. This gets our cats AND dogs very riled up, and lets just say: I have a baby. This cannot continue. Last night I went over to their house, politley knocked on the door, and explained the situation.

This morning? I woke up to my dogs going ballistic because this cat was there again.

The other neighbors beside us, have been an issue since we moved in. Twice this past spring/summer - we found dead baby birds on our deck from our bird house. I cannot even tell you how many times they have pooped in our garden, even in our standing flower pots beside our BBQ. TWICE I have almost hit their black tom cat because he sleeps under my car.

Not to mention that they have been using our side of the fence as a cat scratcher, and we'll need to replace two boards specifically next spring. :rolleyes:

We have talked to these neighbors beside us numerous times, especially when we found the dead birds the first time.

Nothing has been done. They continue to walk our fence line, hiss at our dogs when they're outside, etc. It's really driving us nuts, so I have just printed off the City of Calgary bylaws and am planning on delivering them "annonymously" tonight. I even went so far as to highlight all the areas I felt applied, including the $1500.00 fine if this was not followed. :frustrated:

I just want to know if there is anything else I can do. I called the city, and they said they send out cat traps for US to catch them, because they don't do it themselves.
I reeeeally don't want to do this, as we recognize this is not any of the cats fault, but DH and I are both at our wits end. :mad:

Love4himies
October 1st, 2009, 02:34 PM
But it is the cat who will be the loser :sad: Plus, they can just get another and it will start all over again.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 02:44 PM
But it is the cat who will be the loser :sad: Plus, they can just get another and it will start all over again.

I agree L4H. :sad: It's not fair for the cats, BUT something needs to be done, not only because these cats are a nusisance to a few of us (I'm referring to the neighbor cats beside us, the neighbors behind us are irresponsible but I know they will bring their cat inside after they are done everything...it just adds to the frustration of the other cats) - but because it is totally UNSAFE for these cats to be wandering the way they are. One of them doesn't even have a left eye anymore! Our neighborhood is very close to the main highway, not to mention in a very busy area with main streets close by.

I don't know what to do but to turn to the city at this point, and I'm HOPING if they see on paper how much they could be fined that it will motivate them to keep their cats on their property. :shrug: I just don't know if this is enough.

ancientgirl
October 1st, 2009, 02:46 PM
I have a feeling the only thing the city would do at this point is take the cats away, which may mean a death sentence because of their idiot owners.

Love4himies
October 1st, 2009, 02:46 PM
One thing is for sure, you can't control other people. Is there a rescue that may take these cats in, rather than the city pound?

BenMax
October 1st, 2009, 02:51 PM
I have a feeling the only thing the city would do at this point is take the cats away, which may mean a death sentence because of their idiot owners.

I have to agree with ancientgirl. There are many in our neighbourhood as well. I approached the girl nicely and told her that I am glad I found the owners since I was going to trap them. She gasped and then brought them indoors. We remain cordial with one another.

Since such time I have seen one outside. He was left behind and she kindly took over his care....but is still allowed to roam. If I contact our animal control here - they will pick them up and they will be killed. I opt not to do anything about this situation. Other neighbours are complaining however I twisted it to say that at least he is catching the mice that could have found their way into their homes.:rolleyes:. Now everyone is hush.

Not that this will help you at all but just to let you know that it really is not the cats fault.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 02:52 PM
I have a feeling the only thing the city would do at this point is take the cats away, which may mean a death sentence because of their idiot owners.

Very possible. I also don't think their tom cat would be very adoptable either.:sad:

But on the same note, I'm terrified of putting my cats on their harness in my own backyard because of these cats and that is not fair for them either.

It really po's me that we take the time to ensure no one is bothered by any of my pets, and others aren't doing the same. My animals lose out because of it.

L4H, we do have a great rescue in Calgary that I would love for these cats to go too - but they don't take owner surrendered animals, just strays.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 02:58 PM
I have to agree with ancientgirl. There are many in our neighbourhood as well. I approached the girl nicely and told her that I am glad I found the owners since I was going to trap them. She gasped and then brought them indoors. We remain cordial with one another.

Since such time I have seen one outside. He was left behind and she kindly took over his care....but is still allowed to roam. If I contact our animal control here - they will pick them up and they will be killed. I opt not to do anything about this situation. Other neighbours are complaining however I twisted it to say that at least he is catching the mice that could have found their way into their homes.:rolleyes:. Now everyone is hush.

Not that this will help you at all but just to let you know that it really is not the cats fault.

I think the issue is that they are starting to destroy my yard, and THAT makes me mad. We've been dealing with these same two cats for two years now, trying to just 'live with it' (and my constant reminders to DH that it's not the cats fault, it's not the cats fault) but DH just saw the fence posts on the weekend and it really unnerved me. :wall:
I guess I want to see these people actually CARE a little bit, instead of just smiling and nodding whenever we talk to them. Care that your cats are howling outside our windows at 2 in the morning, and care that there is potting soil all over our back deck because the cats use it for their washroom, and care that my stuff in my yard is now being used as scratching posts!!!

I know that sounds harsh, but I am seriously...seriously...at my wits end. Which is why I'm posting this because I don't want anything bad to happen to the cats, but I need to have suggestions as to how I can prevent this from being a problem for my family.

lUvMyLaB<3
October 1st, 2009, 03:19 PM
I would continue to try and get through to the owners about keeping them inside or at least confined to their property.. I am probably not the best person to ask, as I dealt with the same thing, but felt so bad for the cat.. My kids adopted it and played with it when it came over, we fed it and gave it an 'at our place' name... I could have sent it to the pound, where they would either pick it up and continue, the cat suffering for it, be pts, or I could have tagged it to bring into rescue, but I know the chances of it finding a home in any reasonable amount of time, spewing at the rim with cats. That is the story unfortunetly...Cats don't always stand much of a chance, and I hate that they get trapped and put in a cage waiting for death or a miracle, when we should be trapping the owners and taking them to court or at least stand them in line for some sense knocking in.. The best thing is to keep trying to see if you can get the owners to keep them inside, and hopefully they come around. stray cats, sadly, very sadly, are a fact of life... and always seem to be around. I don't let my cats out, and my dogs don't mind cats, so it really doesn't bother me, but I hate that people let them out, and wish there was a way to get through to the owner without affecting the cat, then I would participate..

Melinda
October 1st, 2009, 03:21 PM
we had a neighbours cat that use to sneak into the garage to use hubs floor cleaner (kitty litter) as his own litter box, neighbour refused to keep it inside, it slept in the house but used the cat door to come and go,....well....as it happened one day, hubs did the driveway with black sealer and kitty walked across it, when he shoo'd it away it went running back through its cats door........black tar feet and all, did I mention they had beige carpeting? I guess it made one heck of a mess and she tried to come after us for the money to clean the carpets and have the cat cleaned (she had to take it to the groomers to get the tar/sealer off) the cat was no longer allowed to run free

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 03:30 PM
I would continue to try and get through to the owners about keeping them inside or at least confined to their property.. I am probably not the best person to ask, as I dealt with the same thing, but felt so bad for the cat.. My kids adopted it and played with it when it came over, we fed it and gave it an 'at our place' name... I could have sent it to the pound, where they would either pick it up and continue, the cat suffering for it, be pts, or I could have tagged it to bring into rescue, but I know the chances of it finding a home in any reasonable amount of time, spewing at the rim with cats. That is the story unfortunetly...Cats don't always stand much of a chance, and I hate that they get trapped and put in a cage waiting for death or a miracle, when we should be trapping the owners and taking them to court or at least stand them in line for some sense knocking in.. The best thing is to keep trying to see if you can get the owners to keep them inside, and hopefully they come around. stray cats, sadly, very sadly, are a fact of life... and always seem to be around. I don't let my cats out, and my dogs don't mind cats, so it really doesn't bother me, but I hate that people let them out, and wish there was a way to get through to the owner without affecting the cat, then I would participate..

I totally agree, LML. And please don't get me wrong. I also feel very bad for these cats.

When my family first moved into this house, we did try to 'make friends' with the cats, however we quickly learned that anyone that approaches either of their two cats will be hissed at and they're gone like a shot. I think he's fairly skittish as well due to the missing eye, so that makes getting close to him much more difficult. We didn't think much of their presence, until we noticed that their cats were in our yard a lot - and on the street - and under our cars - and we started having conversations with the owners. It wasn't even really until we brought home our dog that things got fairly frustrating - the black tomcat in particular would jump off the fence and stand meters in front of Bailey with her back up, tail swooshing, hissing at her, regardless of whether or not we were standing there. It made house-training rather interesting, lets just say that. :rolleyes:

The cat that visits us from the neighbors behind us would be more than welcome, if my dogs did not get so riled up. He's very friendly and adorable, and is not the problem here - he just added to my anxiety lately because things with the other neighbors are starting to get incredibly frustrating. (AND, I quickly went upstairs to let my dogs outside and noticed that she has him on a lead and harness, both look brand new, but at least he's safe on his property now!) :thumbs up Talking works for some people I suppose.

I will go ahead then and drop off this information in my neighbors mailbox and wait to see what happens.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 03:32 PM
we had a neighbours cat that use to sneak into the garage to use hubs floor cleaner (kitty litter) as his own litter box, neighbour refused to keep it inside, it slept in the house but used the cat door to come and go,....well....as it happened one day, hubs did the driveway with black sealer and kitty walked across it, when he shoo'd it away it went running back through its cats door........black tar feet and all, did I mention they had beige carpeting? I guess it made one heck of a mess and she tried to come after us for the money to clean the carpets and have the cat cleaned (she had to take it to the groomers to get the tar/sealer off) the cat was no longer allowed to run free

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

BenMax
October 1st, 2009, 03:36 PM
we had a neighbours cat that use to sneak into the garage to use hubs floor cleaner (kitty litter) as his own litter box, neighbour refused to keep it inside, it slept in the house but used the cat door to come and go,....well....as it happened one day, hubs did the driveway with black sealer and kitty walked across it, when he shoo'd it away it went running back through its cats door........black tar feet and all, did I mention they had beige carpeting? I guess it made one heck of a mess and she tried to come after us for the money to clean the carpets and have the cat cleaned (she had to take it to the groomers to get the tar/sealer off) the cat was no longer allowed to run free

:laughing::laughing::laughing:. This is PURRFECT!

Melinda
October 1st, 2009, 03:38 PM
baily, do they go over your fence to get into your yard? maybe a few of those whirly things the kids us, you know where the wind blows them around??? add some to your fence top, maybe it will scare them away?

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 03:40 PM
baily, do they go over your fence to get into your yard? maybe a few of those whirly things the kids us, you know where the wind blows them around??? add some to your fence top, maybe it will scare them away?

:lightbulb: Wow, THANKYOU Melinda!! We have a very high six foot wood fence around our yard, and I could never figure out how to keep them from jumping in.

This may be exactly what we need. I will do this today and let you know how it goes.

Should I regularly move them to different areas on the fence so they don't get used to them?

Marty11
October 1st, 2009, 03:49 PM
This is sad but true. If my neighbours cats ever get in our yard somehow, my terrier dogs would kill them (hunting instinct). I wish cat owners didn't let their cats roam. They also use my front garden for a litter box.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 03:56 PM
This is sad but true. If my neighbours cats ever get in our yard somehow, my terrier dogs would kill them (hunting instinct). I wish cat owners didn't let their cats roam. They also use my front garden for a litter box.

It's sad isn't it? There are just too many things that can happen to a stray in the city, especially considering how close we are to a few highways. :sad:

Melinda
October 1st, 2009, 04:22 PM
that is a good idea to move them periodically, there are also those windsox, my sis (ok this is a bit funny) had trouble with cats in her flower beds, she bought one of those gross gnomes that ummmm fart...loudly whenever someone walks by it...ok so she bought 3 of them *L* and viola, they scared the cats away.....

Melinda
October 1st, 2009, 04:23 PM
another annoying thing (for neighbours) at night would be those security lights that come on when something crosses their paths...pointed the right way and they could shine in their windows everytime their cat jumps up on the fencing.....

BenMax
October 1st, 2009, 04:56 PM
In the summer those timed sprinklers may help as well...

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 04:57 PM
In the summer those timed sprinklers may help as well...

Ooooh! Great thought BenMax. Too bad I didn't think of that this summer. Those poor little birdies. :sad:

BenMax
October 1st, 2009, 05:01 PM
Ooooh! Great thought BenMax. Too bad I didn't think of that this summer. Those poor little birdies. :sad:

I know it's awful to see this happen. It's a tough situation you are in Bailey. I wish I had the right solution for you.

Are they allowed out during winter months as well?

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 05:03 PM
I know it's awful to see this happen. It's a tough situation you are in Bailey. I wish I had the right solution for you.

Are they allowed out during winter months as well?

All year round. Rain, shine. We, on many occasions, have felt terrible for these cats as it seems they are constantly outside. It's obvious they are very skittish of people as well, so it makes you wonder how often they're handled - if ever. I doubt they are neutered and I know that the toms eye was never seen to by a vet.

BenMax
October 1st, 2009, 05:04 PM
Maybe the Tom can be of 'concern' for the SPCA then?

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 05:09 PM
Maybe the Tom can be of 'concern' for the SPCA then?

Well, our SPCA is a kill shelter, and I can almost garauntee this guy would not find a home. He is a very angry little guy, extremley huge, very brazen (once jumped up on our outdoor table and started eating a plate of cheese/meat/crackers that I had set out for lunch...needless to say, I actually let him finish as I'm sure he's not fed regularly...:rolleyes:) doesn't seem to like other cats or dogs, has one eye missing - the tip of his tail - and in general looks like he wants to kill you.

Do you think I should report him anyway?

BenMax
October 1st, 2009, 05:14 PM
Well, our SPCA is a kill shelter, and I can almost garauntee this guy would not find a home. He is a very angry little guy, extremley huge, very brazen (once jumped up on our outdoor table and started eating a plate of cheese/meat/crackers that I had set out for lunch...needless to say, I actually let him finish as I'm sure he's not fed regularly...:rolleyes:) doesn't seem to like other cats or dogs, has one eye missing - the tip of his tail - and in general looks like he wants to kill you.

Do you think I should report him anyway?

If you do then you know the consequences. I can't make this decision for you. This is a tough one Bailey. I am at a complete loss.

I would contact a rescue actually. Plead for the guy.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 05:25 PM
If you do then you know the consequences. I can't make this decision for you. This is a tough one Bailey. I am at a complete loss.

I would contact a rescue actually. Plead for the guy.

You know, this may be a good idea. I haven't actually considered contacting the cat rescue here I adore because I know they don't accept owner surrendered animals. But as far as this guy is concerned, he's a stray cat.

I will email them today and keep you posted. Thanks BM!:thumbs up

BenMax
October 1st, 2009, 05:28 PM
You know, this may be a good idea. I haven't actually considered contacting the cat rescue here I adore because I know they don't accept owner surrendered animals. But as far as this guy is concerned, he's a stray cat.

I will email them today and keep you posted. Thanks BM!:thumbs up

Good luck Bailey. Maybe this guy will get a good life that he deserves.

Bailey_
October 1st, 2009, 05:30 PM
Good luck Bailey. Maybe this guy will get a good life that he deserves.

Thanks. I hope so! I just talked to DH on the phone and he said it's a great idea, but suggested we leave the letter for the family first - give them a last chance to change their ways.

I've agreed, will drop it off, and still email the rescue to make them aware of the situation. If nothing else, a vet visit would do wonders for this little man.

14+kitties
October 1st, 2009, 06:29 PM
You could take pictures of their cats doing damage in your yard, to your fence, using the soil as their litterbox, send the pics to them along with the bill to repair/replace. That is if the other ideas given don't work.
As for kitties getting into your gardens and soil - use aslan's method of keeping them away. Pee in a cup and spread it around the gardens.

Unfortunately until cats are put on the same level as dogs I dont see things changing. We all know cats are thought to be able to fend for themselves and are allowed to roam free. We also know that things are not going to change any time soon. Dogs will always be a level above cats. :sad:

Jim Hall
October 1st, 2009, 07:55 PM
ok well the idea is to keep em out ofyour yard ?
sprits em with water

let the dogs chase thmm a few times

sounds harsh but hey

human pee sometimes work by where they came in and hang out

janice123
October 1st, 2009, 09:50 PM
I've been dealing with this issue for years, so I hear you. Letting your cat run at large is a bylaw offence here, but few people seem to comply with it, so I am constantly cleaning up after everyone else's cat outdoors and my own indoors. One of my neighbors has 11 of them.

I've tried everything, talking to neighbors, setting out pepper and other recommended spice deterrents, spraying, having my dog escort them out of the yard, on and on. Frankly, nothing works.

I finally sent out the word that I was going to be setting up a cat trap, which I did. They are very humane, roomy, effective and there are strict conditions to how and when you can use them.

Of course I feel guilty, but after years of this, I decided that if they can't be responsible for their own pets, then perhaps someone else will be if the owner doesn't claim them.

I will forewarn you that it doesn't make for the greatest of neighbor relations, but I did give them a head's up, so not sure what more there was to be done.

I was going to start collecting poop and return it to the owners' yards after month or three, but never did. lol

Bailey_
October 10th, 2009, 04:07 PM
human pee sometimes work by where they came in and hang out

:eek::laughing: What!!!??? Really Jim? I haven't heard this before. Have you tried it?:D


Thanks to everyone for the suggestions/thoughts into this situation. I decided to contact a local cat specific rescue in our city and explain what was going on.
I was told that the rescue intake was closed until they were able to adopt out 50 cats - however because of my explanation to the serious health concerns of these cats they would be willing to help with vet care, IF the cats were not microchipped and had no ID on them.

I knew that before any of this was done, I needed to at least tell the family (again) how unhappy we were about this situation.

A week ago we went ahead and left information in the familys mailbox as to the city bylaws and possible fines. Three days later we had a knock on our door and the DH was greeted by our neighbor who was quite upset. Asked us if we had left that information, to which DH replied YES. (I honestly probably would've lied if it had been me, but DH wasn't scared of the guy.)

The neighbor told us in some very unkind four letter words to mind our own business and that his cats were fine outside.
That is when I stepped in. I explained how much damage to our yard over the past two years had been done, and that it is the LAW for his cats own safety to keep them on his property.

Neighbor left in a huff, cats are still outside days later. It's coming on winter, and I am positive these cats will be left outside all day like they were last winter too. (Thus they hide under MY car, and I cannot tell you how many times I've almost hit them pulling out of my driveway.)

So anyway, I talked to the rescue again yesterday. They want to send someone out to catch these 'strays' and first take them to the vet to see if the cats are microchipped or have any ID. If not, they will go ahead with the needed vet care (neuter them both, give needed shots after blood work, and check out that missing eye) however I will need to take both cats back with me as they cannot stay at the rescue.

An incredible offer, and DH and I are thinking about it. Even if these poor male cats are unable to go to a new home, at least they will be looked after (health-wise) in the meantime. But I cannot keep the cats long-term and will most likely just let them go again in my own backyard, in the territory that they already know as 'home'.

Our only hesitation is whether or not to tell the neighbors what has been offered. If they know about it, they may refuse. THe rescue does not look after owner surrendered animals, so basically this has to be done without the neighbors stepping in or asking questions.

Also, are we stepping over boundaries by going ahead and doing this? :confused:

Jim Hall
October 10th, 2009, 05:00 PM
so if they are outside all the time how are they anyones cats?

Bailey_
October 10th, 2009, 07:10 PM
so if they are outside all the time how are they anyones cats?

Yeah, this is the thing. For all intents and purposes they are stray cats. My issue lies with the fact that I still know they "belong" to this family...but DH is fairly convinced we need to go through with this, if nothing else to hopefully give these cats a bit of handling. They act quite feral. I don't know if it's just with strangers and they're better with their owners, but I doubt it.

krdahmer
October 10th, 2009, 07:30 PM
I like simple answers.... DO IT! ;) As far as I'm concerned if a cat is out wandering the majority of the day with no id, and is clearly not getting proper veterinary care... well they are abandoned. They are domesticated animals and need human care. They are our responsibility..... oh and find your neighbours:loser: a copy of the documentary Cat City.... they sound like they need a good slap in the face. :frustrated:

Good luck.:grouphug:

allfurlove
October 10th, 2009, 08:01 PM
:eek::laughing: What!!!??? Really Jim? I haven't heard this before. Have you tried it?:D


Thanks to everyone for the suggestions/thoughts into this situation. I decided to contact a local cat specific rescue in our city and explain what was going on.
I was told that the rescue intake was closed until they were able to adopt out 50 cats - however because of my explanation to the serious health concerns of these cats they would be willing to help with vet care, IF the cats were not microchipped and had no ID on them.

I knew that before any of this was done, I needed to at least tell the family (again) how unhappy we were about this situation.

A week ago we went ahead and left information in the familys mailbox as to the city bylaws and possible fines. Three days later we had a knock on our door and the DH was greeted by our neighbor who was quite upset. Asked us if we had left that information, to which DH replied YES. (I honestly probably would've lied if it had been me, but DH wasn't scared of the guy.)

The neighbor told us in some very unkind four letter words to mind our own business and that his cats were fine outside.
That is when I stepped in. I explained how much damage to our yard over the past two years had been done, and that it is the LAW for his cats own safety to keep them on his property.

Neighbor left in a huff, cats are still outside days later. It's coming on winter, and I am positive these cats will be left outside all day like they were last winter too. (Thus they hide under MY car, and I cannot tell you how many times I've almost hit them pulling out of my driveway.)

So anyway, I talked to the rescue again yesterday. They want to send someone out to catch these 'strays' and first take them to the vet to see if the cats are microchipped or have any ID. If not, they will go ahead with the needed vet care (neuter them both, give needed shots after blood work, and check out that missing eye) however I will need to take both cats back with me as they cannot stay at the rescue.

An incredible offer, and DH and I are thinking about it. Even if these poor male cats are unable to go to a new home, at least they will be looked after (health-wise) in the meantime. But I cannot keep the cats long-term and will most likely just let them go again in my own backyard, in the territory that they already know as 'home'.

Our only hesitation is whether or not to tell the neighbors what has been offered. If they know about it, they may refuse. THe rescue does not look after owner surrendered animals, so basically this has to be done without the neighbors stepping in or asking questions.

Also, are we stepping over boundaries by going ahead and doing this? :confused:

IMO, not at all! They aren't getting the care they need, and you are doing the right thing. Maybe once they have had vet care and some socialization, by then the rescue will have space for them :pray:
Even if you do have to release them after, you will have still done a great thing :)

ancientgirl
October 10th, 2009, 08:11 PM
I agree in that IMO any cat that is basically trying to survive on it's own outdoors is up for grabs. If the owners don't care enough to take care of their cats, then someone who does care is free to do so.

14+kitties
October 10th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Just be aware that if these cats "disappear" the :loser: neighbours are just as likely to go out and get new ones to "replace" them. They don't care. One's the same as the next.

Bailey_
October 10th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this! I think my hesitation came from putting myself in their shoes - if someone did anything to my animals without my permission I'd be royally P.O'd. But I keep reminding myself that these people are not looking after their cats which is why we have to step in anyway.

I called the rescue this evening and the two Toms are now in their TNR program, and someone will be meeting with me on Tuesday to look for the cats, catch them, and proceed from there. :thumbs up

Just be aware that if these cats "disappear" the neighbours are just as likely to go out and get new ones to "replace" them. They don't care. One's the same as the next.

Never thought about this 14. :sad: I certainly hope this can all happen quickly enough before they notice...

Melei'sMom
October 11th, 2009, 04:20 AM
and for anyone having issues with cats digging in flower beds and pots and using them as community toilets...

simple solution...works everytime :)

chicken wire! cats hate it cause they catch their nails on it (smarts but shouldn't cause any permant damage) and your flowers and plants can just grow right up throu it. you can lay it on the top of the soil or just push it in a bit if you do not like the look of it.

easy peasy no more cat poopies! :thumbs up

Bailey_
October 17th, 2009, 08:53 PM
The two cats have now been neutered, are UTD on their shots, and microchipped.

The first cat with the one eye had to have his flesh reopened due to infected flesh, having not seen the vet the first time. The vet was able to remove a lot of gross stuff and stitch the wound up nicely.

The second cat was very close to being feral. Vet guessed his age to be approx. 2 years, and when I released him two days after his neuter surgery, he came out of his kennel and back towards me - got in a few good swipes and bites before flying back over my fence. Of course I was fine, thank dawg I had on my winter jacket, but it was freaky I am not going to lie. :laughing: He seemed quite happy to be back into his territory, and just this morning I caught sight of him with a dead sparrow. :rolleyes::shrug:

The first cat with the missing eye stayed at the clinic almost a week to ensure that he was healing fine. I explained the situation to the staff and they were fine with 'Jack' staying at the clinic to heal instead of coming home with me.
This way I felt much better letting him go yesterday morning. He was much more docile than the second cat, and let me pet and stroke him and feed him a treat before letting him go - and taking a picture of his eye.

If nothing else, I hope this stands as a testimony to what happens when people let their cats roam around neighborhoods. Thank goodness this is all that Jack had to deal with, and hopefully now it will heal nicely and without any pain. I will be monitoring his progress and hoping that nothing else happens.

(No one came to ask questions about their missing cats, even though Jack was missing for almost an entire week.:frustrated:)

14+kitties
October 17th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Amazing! Well, not so much. That is what people like that are. They just don't care. It's too bad Jack could not have disappeared for good. What a sweetie. Maybe if it looks like no one is looking after him you could arrange with a rescue to have someone foster. He deserves a better life than what he has.
Thank you very much for caring. They will both do much better now.

Bailey_
October 17th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Amazing! Well, not so much. That is what people like that are. They just don't care. It's too bad Jack could not have disappeared for good. What a sweetie. Maybe if it looks like no one is looking after him you could arrange with a rescue to have someone foster. He deserves a better life than what he has.
Thank you very much for caring. They will both do much better now.

Thanks 14. I have to admit, I thought of you in midst attack as I released the first kitty - figured I did something to provoke it, probably got a bit too close for his liking. I certainly wish I had more saavy cat people around here to help with this situation!

I will be keeping an eye on them both and am hoping that the rescue will start accepting more cats soon. It's the only reason Jack isn't being fostered now. I actually haven't considered contacting any other dog AND cat rescues to see what they can do, but I think this would be a good idea...you're absolutley right, they certainly deserve and need a better life. :sad:

14+kitties
October 17th, 2009, 09:13 PM
Nah, he was just letting you know he was not a happy camper. I have so many scars on my arms from kitties I figure I will have a map soon. It's all good. I bet in a few weeks he will settle down. Maybe he will turn into another Jupiter and start coming for scritches and pets.
In future :rolleyes: you could maybe try a blanket over the carrier. It helps to calm the kitty down. You can then quietly open the door from behind the carrier and step back far enough the kitty won't try to get to you. Let him take his time getting out of the carrier.
The more kitties you rescue the more you learn. I am still learning tons with each one. :D

Bailey_
October 17th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Nah, he was just letting you know he was not a happy camper. I have so many scars on my arms from kitties I figure I will have a map soon. It's all good. I bet in a few weeks he will settle down. Maybe he will turn into another Jupiter and start coming for scritches and pets.
In future :rolleyes: you could maybe try a blanket over the carrier. It helps to calm the kitty down. You can then quietly open the door from behind the carrier and step back far enough the kitty won't try to get to you. Let him take his time getting out of the carrier.
The more kitties you rescue the more you learn. I am still learning tons with each one. :D

:D See? I never would've thought to do that for him though I think he would've been much happier. He was losing his cool the minute he was in that carrier, hissing/growling and trying to get out; it was very intimidating for me and my husband laughed because I deal with all types of aggressive dogs all day without dropping a sweat. haha :o
I will certainly remember that for the future, :rolleyes: here's hoping they don't need anymore vet trips...

TeriM
October 18th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Great job Bailey :thumbs up. It's so sad though that nobody even missed them :sad:.

ancientgirl
October 18th, 2009, 10:42 AM
I'm so glad you were able to help them. Hopefully the rescue can find some room for them. Stupid owners!

Bailey_
October 18th, 2009, 01:54 PM
I hope so too AG. I have now contacted a few other rescues and am waiting to hear back. I'm hoping anyone can get these boys into a foster home.

Thanks Teri. VERY sad that no one missed these boys - I thought for sure they'd be knocking on our door asking if we'd seen "Jack" but nothing. I'd always been under the impression that they let their cats in at night, but now I have serious doubts.

Love4himies
October 18th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Glad to hear that they got the vet care they so desparately needed. Lousy cat owners :wall: :mad: :sad:

chrisf
March 18th, 2010, 10:15 PM
Hello, I do understand your frustration, I am one of those people who let their cat roam... He is truly an outdoor kitty, and unfortunately we live in the city now and are left with the decision to let him out or not. He would not have it any other way... This is why we are moving back to Nova Scotia, where he can roam the woods and not bother anyone else (though I do not see him doing what you have described) and if anyone ever consulted us about our cats bothering them, it would have taken care of right away!

So, now my cats is missing, i think he may have sensed the upcomming move and maybe on a journey around the area. He has been missing since march 15th and we live in the Edgemont area. He is Black and long haired (fixed of course) is tattooed and we dearly want him back... If he happends to be on eof the cats in your area and or you may have seen him, please feel free to give me a call...

(Longshot I will admit, but my heart is ripped in half right now and am willing to try anything)


Edited by Admin - Phone numbers only allowed in lost and found - I see you posted there, good luck.

MyBirdIsEvil
March 19th, 2010, 03:03 AM
it was very intimidating for me and my husband laughed because I deal with all types of aggressive dogs all day without dropping a sweat. haha

To be fair, I've had cats my whole life, rescued them and am very comfortable around them, even MOST ferals, but I have encountered a few cats that scare the crap out of me.

When I lived with my parents the people above me had this huge unfixed nearly feral male, probably 15-20 lbs and not fat at all (let him knock up several females too, what idiots :mad:). He got out in the hallway (or maybe they let him out I dunno) and I tried to go up the stairs without realizing he was out. WOW. He stood in the stairwell and puffed up and hissed and actually came toward me growling and ready to attack. I backed off and he actually followed me growling. When I went back in my apt he was still out there growling like a maniac.
I've had encounters with aggressive dogs that scared me much less than him. I've been scratched by FRIENDLY cats when they're freaked out and no way I wanna be scratched by a huge semi-feral cat that actually WANTS To hurt me.

Etown_Chick
March 19th, 2010, 11:09 PM
Not sure about Calgary, but in Edmonton, if you trap a cat and take it anywhere but the pound, you have effectively stolen their property and can be charged. Just something to think about.
I've had the same issue. Still have it, although not as bad as Bailey.
I've hosed the neighbor's cat, used that cat repellant, left baggies of cat poop from my garden on their step, trapped it and taken it to the pound (it was back two days later)....have not found a permanent solution.
There is no cure for stupid, and people who let their cats roam will replace the cat with another roamer if theirs gets hit by a car or whatever.
Until people start to value cats, I don't see this changing.And as an aside, house cats kill far more songbirds than mice.