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My Opinion On a Circus and Zoos

SandraLM
July 4th, 2009, 02:38 PM
Colour code the tickets for the children to be grouped into groups. Then make this more hands on for the children. Have the acrobatic acts and also teach the children an easy acrobatic act they can perform. Let the children choose who they would love to put a clown face on. Children would have so much fun putting a clown face on daddy or mommy, and even let the kids dressup as clowns. Have magic acts and have the magicians teach the children some tricks. If they choose to have animals in the acts, have flyball and agility races of dogs. As these aren't wild animals and haven't been trained in a voilent manner teaching them the tricks.
I also say that zoos should only be for animals that can't survive in the wild. Or for a breeding program to try to stop a species from becoming extinct. All other animals in my opinion should be left in the wild where they belong.

NoahGrey
July 4th, 2009, 03:52 PM
I also say that zoos should only be for animals that can't survive in the wild. Or for a breeding program to try to stop a species from becoming extinct. All other animals in my opinion should be left in the wild where they belong.

How about NO animals in the circus. Doesn't matter if they can't survive in the wild. I agree that wildlife should be kept in the wild and not held in captivity.

ACO22

Bina
July 4th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Sandra, I agree....NO wild animals in Zoos unless they are not releasable.
And the Circus can do without those Lions and Tigers doing stupid tricks.
The general public has got to stop going to these places and then follow up by voicing their opinions.
The silent don't get heard. :)
There are so many other ways to keep children busy this summer. Visit a wildlife rehab centre.

Chaser
July 4th, 2009, 04:22 PM
Agreed Bina.....I can't understand how people think it's okay for circus animals to be held like that. And when the elephants stampede or the lions attack, it gets blamed on the animal! If an animal revolts against it's captors, I say good for it! The humans deserved it.

The circus, marine land, etc. need to be put to an end. I can appreciate the acrobatics etc. of the circus, but leave it at that.

As for zoos, they need to be well-regulated and only house animals that need assistance replenishing their numbers or who have been injured and can't be released into the wild again. The Bowmanville Zoo used to have a bear that drank orange pop - no surprise that it died - and that is not in the least bit about supporting and preserving animals. That's purely human stupidity and greed.

TwinTails
July 4th, 2009, 04:52 PM
I am certainly glad that there are no more animals allowed in any live performances in BC! The first time I ever saw an elephant (1990, won something at school to tour the circus before it began), I stood no more than 1 foot from her. She was so tired, sad and just broken. You could see her ribs :sad: The "trainers" beat them with hooked sticks :sad:

I am not sure when it happened, but no animals are allowed in any live show now (Brittney Spears got into trouble when she used an albino Burmese python in a Vancouver show). Thank goodness, those poor animals have suffered enough!

SandraLM
July 4th, 2009, 05:06 PM
No animals would deffinately be my first choice. Nor will I go to a circus. That is supporting this type of business as I said I am against.

chico2
July 4th, 2009, 05:18 PM
I don't go to Circuses,Zoo's or anything that displays live animals,Circus-animals have been outlawed in many countries in Europe,Sweden for one.
I thoroughly enjoyed a wild-life sanctuary in South Carolina,but those were rescued wild animals not able to be returned to the wild.
I always thought we had outlawed circus-animals in Canada too,but nooooo:sad:
I shudder to think of the Calgary Stampede coming up now,mind you,they are not wild animals,but the pain is no less.

SandraLM
July 4th, 2009, 05:25 PM
Another cruel animal show is the bull ring in Spain. And look how many people go to see that.

chico2
July 4th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Oh yes,I won't even discuss that,it will never change,it's called"culture"in Spain,Mexico and Southern France:yell:
Culture for whom:confused:not the bulls:yell:

SandraLM
July 4th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Oh yes,I won't even discuss that,it will never change,it's called"culture"in Spain,Mexico and Southern France:yell:
Culture for whom:confused:not the bulls:yell:

Very true and it's been going on for centuries now.

lUvMyLaB<3
July 4th, 2009, 07:51 PM
I WILL NEVER support a circus that has animal acts, and when one comes to town I will make my opinions loud and clear along with true stories on how animals have been kept and trained. I have trouble respecting people that go watch these shows as entertainment, with no thought to the animals after they leave and go home with a souvenier in hand. They go home to their nice comfy house, with their head full of fond memories, and the elephants go back on their trailer. The big cats back into their travelling crates, on their eay to be exploited at the next show.

We are not cavemen anymore, we know better now, we understand that animals are not just objects that we can use in whatever fashion we want for our own gain. Now that we all know that there is no excuse to continue this barbaric treatment of animals. It is sick, and I hate it with a passion.

Zoos should only be used in the extreme cases of animals that need rehabilitation, and should always be released when ever possible, that should be their main goal. Not breeding more for use in more zoos. I don't believe they are helping sustain a population of animals when the animals they breed are kept in captivity. I think it would be ok to open PROPER animal enclosures to the public when animals are being rehab'd, in order to get funds to continue the work, but all efforst should be on keeping the animals from seeing humans. These animals do not need to be hand fed, they should try to replicate their feeding in the wild, food should be hidden ect. I HATE some of the enclosures that they keep wild animals in, the WPG zoo makes me sick, my horses round pen is bigger than the space they house 6 camels in. wpg's enclosures are very small, and far from natural.

I don't think in zoo's there should be so much of a focus on having animals 'trained' they are no better than a circus, or a petstore, in many cases a lot of what they do is very similar. Have animals on display, but they don't need to do tricks, they don't need to eat from your hand, leave them alone, I also think that species that co-exist in the wild should co-exhist in zoos, many have a symbiotic relatiionship, and I think that should be maintianed..

Ok, I have an opinion on this.. sorry! that turned into a rant..

There was a LION act that came to brandon at the fair, they had a good ol time tooting about how these cats were rescued, but the show he puts on is the same as a circus, jumping through hoops, doing stupid a** degrading tricks, how are the rescued now? Are they not in a bad situation now? Being carted around in a trailer? I SAW him hit them with a long wood pole, one got scared when a ride went off and spooked, he punished it with the wood pole, I saw him do a lot of things that I do not agree with. They were all beautiful white lions, and the male was amazing. They were fed chunks of meat from the trainers hand. I don't think this is good at all, I hate it, and I don't get how it is much better than where they were "saved" from. Nice excuse to get people to come and see his lions.

t.pettet
July 4th, 2009, 08:36 PM
The worst culprets are the Shriners, they're funding medical treatments for children but at the expense of the animals and in doing so giving kids the message that any amusement for the benefit of humans is ok. Its up to the municipalities to ban circuses from their jurisdictions with petitions from the public.

TacoGrl
July 4th, 2009, 08:49 PM
The worst culprets are the Shriners, they're funding medical treatments for children but at the expense of the animals and in doing so giving kids the message that any amusement for the benefit of humans is ok. Its up to the municipalities to ban circuses from their jurisdictions with petitions from the public.


The Shrine Circus here didn't have animals.


I like zoos. I get to experience animals I would never learn about other than a 2D image in a book...it makes me realize how important it is to study them to be able to help them. There are species that are extinct in the wild and without zoos, we would have lost them all together. I like the way zoos have changed their exhibits to give the animals more comfort...when I was little, the bears were kept in cages and I used to cry, but now, they wander around and play with other animals in a HUGE and SAFE environment. Zoo breading programs also aid in wild breeding programs...we learn why species die off and how we can change that.

Oh and as far as the Stampede goes...yes, there are certain events that need to be changed. There are also events (bull riding) that I think are just fine...the match is fair...when the bull kicks the cowboy, the bull wins! As for calf roping, I have never figured out why they have to hog tie them...they should be able to just rope and down them and call it a day...dragging them all tied up is so cruel. The chucks need to be thinned out...way too many horses all pumped up running into each other.

SandraLM
July 4th, 2009, 09:20 PM
I watched a show on the condors in California. There was only like 20 birds left in the 70s. But they found if they removed the egg she would lay a replacement egg. With the condors the baby stays with mom for 2 years. So that means if she has a baby to care for she won't lay again till that one fledges. So with them always taking the eggs and raising them she would keep laying 2 eggs a year instead of one every 2 years. I think the numbers are over 200 now. And when they babies were of age they were always released into the wild.

So this is more what I was thinking of when I mentioned about a breeding program.

Dracko
July 5th, 2009, 01:19 AM
No animals would deffinately be my first choice. Nor will I go to a circus. That is supporting this type of business as I said I am against.

^ Yeah that.:thumbs up

Golden Girls
July 5th, 2009, 08:28 AM
I would never support circuses or zoo's. The Calgary's Stampede :frustrated:

People really ought to find new ways to entertain themselves :shrug: