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cpietra16
June 16th, 2009, 01:48 PM
:shrug:If you had to euthanize a cat, but didn't have the money...where would you go??

This lady called me and asked me to help put her cat down. She does not have any money and has to live with her son who's cat is a brute.
her cat is 17 years old and is a finniky eater, hares to be picked up , and is very timid....so obviously I would love to give him a home, but I can't......

She would rather put him down than wonder if he was a trouble to anyone.....Where can she go for a "Humane Euthanization with respect to the animal".....and is cheap...

JennieV
June 16th, 2009, 01:52 PM
CPietra, I am sorry to hear about that situation. :sad:

The best way would be to call a few vets to find out prices and such....Some do it for cheaper than others. Maybe even call the SPCA? I just don't know. The cat does deserve to at least die with dignity, rather than be dropped off somewhere.

:sad::sad:

Good luck.

BenMax
June 16th, 2009, 02:45 PM
DO NOT GO TO THE SPCA. The way they euthanize cats is horrific. Contact Dr. Baker in Greenfield Park vet clinic. I do not know the name of the clinic. I believe it's about 35$ or so. They will sedate the cat and then will euthanize using euthanol.

Please do not take this cat to any pound or shelter. This is not a good way to part with your pet. Infact it's horrible.

cpietra16
June 16th, 2009, 02:49 PM
I know Ben Max...If I had a choice I would take this poor cat in, but i really can't at this point...She thought the SPCA was the best bet but I did talk her out of it.
She also does not have a car and I can not take her because if I see the cat I will not let her go thru it...so I am just tryin gto get her the best info I can...She is elderly by the way..the lady that is....I hate these phone calls.


Thank you Ben Max...I do appreciate all the info you have..and I know its a lot of info.

BenMax
June 16th, 2009, 02:53 PM
I am going to PM you. Maybe something can be done.

JennieV
June 16th, 2009, 04:04 PM
BM to the rescue, as always! :thumbs up:thumbs up

Thats why I love this site!

chico2
June 16th, 2009, 04:54 PM
Poor senior lady,poor kitty,it must be so difficult for you to get these kind of calls:sad:
I hope our BenMax can help out,don't we just love BenMax:cat:

coppperbelle
June 16th, 2009, 06:45 PM
DO NOT GO TO THE SPCA. The way they euthanize cats is horrific. Contact Dr. Baker in Greenfield Park vet clinic. I do not know the name of the clinic. I believe it's about 35$ or so. They will sedate the cat and then will euthanize using euthanol.

Please do not take this cat to any pound or shelter. This is not a good way to part with your pet. Infact it's horrible.

Do you mean Dr. Allan at the Taschereau Vet Clinic in Greenfield Park?
If so, the number is 450-465-6511

Frenchy
June 16th, 2009, 07:32 PM
My ex vet is pretty cheap , and very humane. If the lady can drive to that area. check your pm ....

cpietra16
June 16th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Hi Frenchy...the lady does not have a car..and I really can not put myself in this situation...I will not be able to not bring the cat home for its last years among the living.
And that is why I can not be at the SPCA or in any area that has animal in desperate need.....and that is why I now have 12 cats......so shoot me!!!!!:loser:

sofapup
June 16th, 2009, 10:03 PM
You all have made me very curious. Why not the SPCA? What do they do? Here (Wisconsin) when I toured the Humane Society (not the same, I think) there was a "Goodbye Room" where people could have a quiet parting with their pet. Is the SPCA different?

Julia

(I'm truly curious. No axe to grind.)

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 10:11 AM
they are not humane

Chris21711
June 17th, 2009, 10:41 AM
they are not humane

I have no idea how the SPCA in Montreal is run or their procedures....not all SPCA's are run the same. I know that ours uses euthanol.

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 10:59 AM
I wasn;t sure either, but a good source told me that I should not take the cat to the SPCA in Montreal...its not at all humane.

I have no idea how the SPCA in Montreal is run or their procedures....not all SPCA's are run the same. I know that ours uses euthanol.

Chris21711
June 17th, 2009, 11:12 AM
I wasn;t sure either, but a good source told me that I should not take the cat to the SPCA in Montreal...its not at all humane.

That is really sad :sad:

BenMax
June 17th, 2009, 11:44 AM
Sorry but I cannot help this cat. If the cat was dying or unhealthy - yes, but since the cat is health wise - there is nothing I can do.

The SPCA does euthanize with euthanol however they do not sedate. They inject this into the heart, and your aim has to be perfect. If not, the cats gasp for air and flip around alot. I have seen it, and quite frankly I do not agree with this AT ALL. On top of this, even if they did use a tranquilizer - this environment is not very calming. Animals are stressed, unsure, and frightened. They can SMELL the euthanizia room if you get my drift. They can smell death and they freeze. Dogs sometimes urinate or deficate when they go into THAT room. The freezer is in the same room.

I am sorry - the SPCA does great things but they need to improve drastically on this.

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 01:19 PM
:wall::wall::wall::wall::yell:Well I can't help her and she doesn;t have any money...and now her son gave her until tonight to ge tthe cat out our her will break the cats neck...and he apparently will do it. He was bitten by the cat and now has an infected finger....he is seeing red...so now I told her that since I can't help her with giving her 100.00+ dollars, I will take the f**** cat and see if I can place her....like I need this now.....what the hell did I just do???????
I can't beleive I am doing this....this cat is healthy and is 17 years old....does anyone on this board know of anyone who may want to take this cat and give it its last home....I am now going to go out of my office and scream....and then shoot myself.:wall::yell:

ancientgirl
June 17th, 2009, 01:59 PM
Sorry but I cannot help this cat. If the cat was dying or unhealthy - yes, but since the cat is health wise - there is nothing I can do.

The SPCA does euthanize with euthanol however they do not sedate. They inject this into the heart, and your aim has to be perfect. If not, the cats gasp for air and flip around alot. I have seen it, and quite frankly I do not agree with this AT ALL. On top of this, even if they did use a tranquilizer - this environment is not very calming. Animals are stressed, unsure, and frightened. They can SMELL the euthanizia room if you get my drift. They can smell death and they freeze. Dogs sometimes urinate or deficate when they go into THAT room. The freezer is in the same room.

I am sorry - the SPCA does great things but they need to improve drastically on this.

That's one of the most horrifying things I've heard. So they actively want to fight against cruelty, yet they condone it within their own walls? Those poor babies.:sad:



:wall::wall::wall::wall::yell:Well I can't help her and she doesn;t have any money...and now her son gave her until tonight to ge tthe cat out our her will break the cats neck...and he apparently will do it. He was bitten by the cat and now has an infected finger....he is seeing red...so now I told her that since I can't help her with giving her 100.00+ dollars, I will take the f**** cat and see if I can place her....like I need this now.....what the hell did I just do???????
I can't beleive I am doing this....this cat is healthy and is 17 years old....does anyone on this board know of anyone who may want to take this cat and give it its last home....I am now goin gto go out of my office and sream....and then shoot myself.:wall::yell:


This poor woman's son sounds like a complete b******!

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 02:12 PM
He is....trust me....he's a big A**H*** and he will break the cats neck...

Tundra_Queen
June 17th, 2009, 02:28 PM
cpietra I am sorry that you are such a sweet loving caring person that u took the cat.:) But I'm happy that u saved that cat from that terrible person who was going to strangle it! What kind of human would do that to a cat never mind their mother's pet! I feel so sorry for the mother. :grouphug:

Debbie

meow
June 17th, 2009, 02:30 PM
Sorry but I cannot help this cat. If the cat was dying or unhealthy - yes, but since the cat is health wise - there is nothing I can do.

The SPCA does euthanize with euthanol however they do not sedate. They inject this into the heart, and your aim has to be perfect. If not, the cats gasp for air and flip around alot. I have seen it, and quite frankly I do not agree with this AT ALL. On top of this, even if they did use a tranquilizer - this environment is not very calming. Animals are stressed, unsure, and frightened. They can SMELL the euthanizia room if you get my drift. They can smell death and they freeze. Dogs sometimes urinate or deficate when they go into THAT room. The freezer is in the same room.

I am sorry - the SPCA does great things but they need to improve drastically on this.
I have heard bad things about them IN GENERAL and have STOPPED donating to them. I donate to ALDF from now on. ASPCA doesn't really do anything to help with the companion animals laws which are outrageous: our babies are viewed as property (in the eyes of the law) and I am told ASPCA supprts this.

meow
June 17th, 2009, 02:32 PM
He is....trust me....he's a big A**H*** and he will break the cats neck...

Did you save the cat???? YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

chico2
June 17th, 2009, 02:46 PM
coietra,if you meet this"son"please do not hold back,he is a cruel idiot,not only to a poor defenseless cat,but to his mother..OMG I'd bring a big stick:evil:
I :pray:someone will help you with this poor cat,I just hate people sometimes,that's why I love animals....
What are you going to do??

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 03:20 PM
Can anyone foster or care for this cat...she's 17 years old but healthy. She is low maintenance /timid.... I can;t beleive I put myself in this position.:yell:

chico2
June 17th, 2009, 05:06 PM
cpietra I wish I could:sad:
You put yourself in this position because you care,how did they get your phone-no??
I don't know the circumstances,but if this was my son,he'd be out of my will in a heartbeat,NOBODY could make me give up on my cats,no matter what:cat:

BenMax,would not a healthy cat who is about to be killed warrant a rescue from your place,that to me is worse than being sick:sad:

quincymycat
June 17th, 2009, 06:01 PM
OMG...I read these posts and I just can't help crying. I did not know that was going on in the SPCA. I just stopped the automatic debit from my account last month that was going to them, now, I have no guilt what so ever about it.
Why are some people so cruel? That woman's son sounds like he should be put down to put other people out of their misery for having to be around him. I think if the cat bit him, he had good reason. They can see people more for what they are than most other people can.
I wish I could help.
You are my hero for saving that kitty.:thumbs up

smithduke
June 17th, 2009, 06:29 PM
I'm shocked about the ASPCA! After watching Animal Planet I thought their practices were humane. Maybe I'm being naive. I actually give money to them monthly because I was so sure they were a great organization.

I feel so sorry for this women and her cat! My vet is the kind of person who will keep the cat at his practice instead of opting for euthanization. He has several cats, a blind dog, a ferret and a couple of birds that live in his office. I wish she could find someone like my vet to take her cat in!

Two things that really bother me...the word "humane" and when a criminal is called an "animal" Many humans aren't humane to animals at all and to be called an animal should be a compliment. Animals hurt or kill to survive or to protect themselves and/or their babies, and it's very rare they kill for no reason at all. Of course there are humans who are good and kind (many are right here on this board) but there are a lot people who could care less about a living being that doesn't fit into their life.

I hope I explained that clearly enough. :confused: :laughing:

diandpat
June 17th, 2009, 06:38 PM
This is certainly a very sad situation with so many "wrongs" you don't know where to start.

Bless you cpietra for stepping up again. Sadly, aside from severe allergies, I have a high prey drive terrier that would probably make this cat's life Hell here. :goodvibes: for a suitable solution soon.

I think we should be very very clear here that Benmax is sharing knowledge that she has of the Montreal SPCA ONLY! It does not mean and we can not know how euthanasia is performed in other cities, provinces, or states for that matter. I would hate for people to discontinue donations to organizations that we have no knowledge of their procedure...just my :2cents:

allfurlove
June 17th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Sorry this is kinda off topic...but I think the info posted was about ONE specific SPCA shelter in Quebec, no? ASPCA is completely different, not that I am sticking up for them, I dont know what methods they use, just pointing out that not every SPCA in North America is affiliated with each other. There are also OSPCA shelters in Ontario, again, completely different organization. Just wanted to clear that up :)

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 08:27 PM
I understood BenMax and knew she was talking about the Montreal one...I respect what she does and trust her completely. I appreciate all that she can do and share..and if she wants me to stay away from the SPCA then I will, especially if she has witnessed the "room" . Well she's here in my house, not sure how long.I really can;t keep her. I am not a rescue on to myself and I really can't do this to my kids.....so if anyone has a heart please,,,help:sad:

Kahne9Lover
June 17th, 2009, 08:29 PM
Cpietra thank you for taking the kittie, and also for giving the woman piece of mind that her son won't harm this poor animal, but maybe you might want to call your local agency on aging to check out the home situation. If he is being this cruel, it isn't a huge leap to him possibly being emotionally or physically abusing to his elderly mother...:wall: he sounds like a real :loser:

ancientgirl
June 17th, 2009, 08:35 PM
What a precious girl. Bless you for trying to help her. I pray you find someone who will give her a home.

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 09:08 PM
"I just found out that "she" is a He" and his name is Bailey. He is neutered and has all his shots. He is pretty friendly and not sure why he bit the guys hand, but I picked him up without even a hiss. He is a big cat and seems to like to purr when in the mood...so any takers....:rolleyes:

Tundra_Queen
June 17th, 2009, 09:58 PM
How is he with other cats and dogs?

cpietra16
June 17th, 2009, 10:10 PM
he is good with dogs and cats...he's already on my bed

Jim Hall
June 17th, 2009, 10:22 PM
ahh an angel best of luck

Gail P
June 17th, 2009, 10:27 PM
You know, this is just an idea but I wonder if there would be any nursing homes that would be willing to take him. I've heard of lots of places (including the one that my neighbour's parents ended up living in) that have a cat. Many of the residents used to have a pet of their own and miss having them around, and considering that this cat is a senior himself and used to keeping company with a senior lady it might be a good fit. Just a thought.

I'd be a little worried about the lady living with her son as well. If he's already bullying her into getting rid of her cat, threatening the cat like that, who knows how he'll end up treating her.

ancientgirl
June 18th, 2009, 08:11 AM
We know our pets are very intuitive. Bailey likely felt that this woman's son was a total jerk, no doubt that's why he bit him. Also, lord knows what the guy was trying to do to the poor cat, and biting him may have just been a defensive move.

chico2
June 18th, 2009, 09:10 AM
He is a beautiful old boy:pray:he melts someones heart:pray:so he can live out his life with love and care.
At 17 yrs old a shelter probably is not a good place for him,who adopts a 17yr old kitty??
I am so sorry for you cpietra,you certainly have enough already,but I am glad the old boy is safe for now:cat:

As for the SPCA,my first instinct was to write them and cancel my donations,however the OSPCA is a good organization,but they don't have control over all their affiliates.

If the son got bitten(hopefully it gets infected:evil:)it was more than likely because he grabbed the cat.

Smithduke,I NEVER call a cruel,nasty person an ANIMAL,a monster is a better word,no animal is cruel like some humans,they simply fight to survive.

BenMax
June 18th, 2009, 10:43 AM
Sorry this is kinda off topic...but I think the info posted was about ONE specific SPCA shelter in Quebec, no? ASPCA is completely different, not that I am sticking up for them, I dont know what methods they use, just pointing out that not every SPCA in North America is affiliated with each other. There are also OSPCA shelters in Ontario, again, completely different organization. Just wanted to clear that up :)

Thank you for specifying this...holy crow! Every SPCA runs differently. Also note that SPCAs and shelters may vary in the way they euthanize.

Again - thank you for making this point! Please don't stop donating to SPCAs and shelters - donations are what makes changes - so don't base one on another.

BenMax
June 18th, 2009, 10:47 AM
Thank you for specifying this...holy crow! Every SPCA runs differently. Also note that SPCAs and shelters may vary in the way they euthanize.

Again - thank you for making this point! Please don't stop donating to SPCAs and shelters - donations are what makes changes - so don't base one on another.

Regardless on how an SPCA or shelter euthanizes - it's just not a good environment to do so. Please never take animals there to be PTS - it really is not fair to them. It should be done without stress and I really don't care what anyone says - shelters are not places where animals are to be put down - they are there to try and place them. Sorry :offtopic:.

BenMax
June 18th, 2009, 11:03 AM
BenMax,would not a healthy cat who is about to be killed warrant a rescue from your place,that to me is worse than being sick:sad:

Indeed but I was unaware that there was a death threat made. I have to be very honest with you and tell you that rescues are completely full right now as are shelters and SPCAs. Moving season is here and animals are being dumped left, right and center. Re-homing is almost impossible at this point. Infact, it's so bad that I ended up having to adopt my foster cat to make room for another. Certainly was not my intention however had to make room somehow.

I contacted some cat rescues I know and they as well are full - this attempt was even made as far as Ontario.

joeysmama
June 18th, 2009, 11:04 AM
I can pretty much guess why he bit the guy !! I want to bite the creep too. I'm so glad the poor cat is out of there. I hope you find the most loving home for this poor boy.

You're a doll for doing this !

chico2
June 18th, 2009, 11:25 AM
BenMax,I understand,I've heard all about moving-season in Montreal,it's just so darn sad:sad:
We have a town-house complex across the street from me,often students will rent short-term and have a cat/kitten for fun,guess who gets left behind??

BenMax
June 18th, 2009, 11:32 AM
BenMax,I understand,I've heard all about moving-season in Montreal,it's just so darn sad:sad:
We have a town-house complex across the street from me,often students will rent short-term and have a cat/kitten for fun,guess who gets left behind??

Cats are abandoned far more than dogs. For whatever reason they seem to have less 'value'. Three weeks ago we got our 1st of the year - moved and left the dog behind in the apartment. Adopted to a loving FOREVER home since.

Crazy darn world we live in. Just 2 weeks ago, I got 4 black kittens under age - oh yes it's been a real treat! Sorry off topic! Sorry.

14+kitties
June 18th, 2009, 12:06 PM
I only wish I could help this fella. :sad: It seems my hands are slightly full though. I pray you find his forever :angel: soon. Thank you for everything you do. :grouphug:

cpietra16
June 23rd, 2009, 01:19 PM
here are more pictures of Bailey.....

BenMax
June 23rd, 2009, 01:29 PM
What a beautiful cat. Did you ask cat rescues to couresty post perhaps??? Just a thought.

cpietra16
June 23rd, 2009, 01:40 PM
yes I did..I hope someone might want this gentle giant..he's very sweet...and loves to sleep with you..

chico2
June 23rd, 2009, 04:57 PM
cpietra,he looks a little like my stray,but of course he seems in worse shape than Bailey:sad:
:pray:someone can help you with this pretty boy:cat:

growler~GateKeeper
June 24th, 2009, 01:22 AM
He's adorable :lovestruck: got cute markings :fingerscr the purrfect someone comes along soon :goodvibes: