heidiho
May 1st, 2009, 09:28 PM
Ok so any other ideas of good food low in calories,good quality and NOT a rawfood diet.I tasted her food it was heinous.I want t oswitch her over to somethine else.NO raw food..IDEAS??
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Did a taste test and weLLness core is disgusting!!heidiho May 1st, 2009, 09:28 PM Ok so any other ideas of good food low in calories,good quality and NOT a rawfood diet.I tasted her food it was heinous.I want t oswitch her over to somethine else.NO raw food..IDEAS?? heidiho May 1st, 2009, 09:38 PM http://www.petco.com/product/105025/Halo-Spot-s-Stew-Indoor-Formula-Chicken-Recipe-Cat-Food.aspx?CoreCat=CatFFB_Halo heidiho May 1st, 2009, 09:39 PM I kind of like that one,dont think it is raw food diet,but where the hell does it show calories???????? heidiho May 1st, 2009, 09:42 PM http://www.petco.com/product/10960/Natural-Balance-Reduced-Calorie-Formula-Ultra-Premium-Cat-Food.aspx?CoreCat=CatFFB_NaturalBalance#details heidiho May 1st, 2009, 09:42 PM now on this one isnt it bad to have chicken meal as first ingredient?? heidiho May 1st, 2009, 09:44 PM http://www.petco.com/product/102980/Spa-Select-Indoor-Cat-Food.aspx?CoreCat=CatFFB_BlueBuffalo clm May 1st, 2009, 09:58 PM Try the natures variety instinct canned. All my cat love the stuff. They have rabbit, duck, chicken, lamb, beef. Cindy Etown_Chick May 1st, 2009, 10:00 PM heidi I can't believe you tasted it! ewwww lol... I mean scruffy thinks 3-day old garbage is a feast, so I think dogs eat darn near anything. Orijen is a great food and it just won an award from teh Glycemic Institute, meaning it won't spike your dog's blood sugar. That's a good thing for a chubby puppy. They have a chicken one and a fish one. It's very good stuff. heidiho May 1st, 2009, 10:25 PM i have a cat and looking for a dry food.i had to do it,and it made me friggin gag i cant believe i have been feeding her something that has no taste at all and is just nasty....would petco or petsmart have it??and its not raw food diet right?? rainbow May 1st, 2009, 11:36 PM If you want a dry food then I would recommend Orijen as well. :thumbs up rainbow May 1st, 2009, 11:42 PM Heidi, I can't remember what state you moved to but here is the store locator ...... http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/storeLocator/ And the ingredients .... Chicken formula http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/products/CatIngredients.aspx 6 Fresh Fish formula http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/products/ORIJEN6Fish_catIngredients.aspx heidiho May 1st, 2009, 11:46 PM what r the calories how come no one ever shows them.and id it a raw food diet..no more of that for roxy heidiho May 1st, 2009, 11:47 PM nevermind 540 is calories i want to go lower,i think i found out of those 3 one i ma picking,so out of those 3 can i get some opinions rainbow May 2nd, 2009, 03:07 AM If you want Roxy to lose weight and only want to feed kibble then you are better off feeding her a grain free brand. The brands that have "calorie reduced" formulas lower the fat but raise the carbohydrates and overweight cats do not need extra carbohydrates .....in fact they don't need any at all. There are other grain free brands besides Orijen but that one is the best imo. :2cents: Love4himies May 2nd, 2009, 05:46 AM Heidi: Kibble and weightloss do not go together with cats, they contain too much carbs which just turn into wasted calories. I know you don't want to feed raw, but how about canned? Nature's Variety Instinct canned is a great food that my cats prefer over Wellness. sugarcatmom May 2nd, 2009, 11:06 AM I tasted her food it was heinous. I think you'll find that all commercial cat foods are going to taste heinous to you. Cat's tastebuds are "wired" differently than ours, so unless you plan on sharing meals with Roxy, it's probably better to find something she likes and leave your own tastebuds out of the decision. ,i think i found out of those 3 one i ma picking,so out of those 3 can i get some opinions None of the above. As I said in my post to your other thread, cats should not be eating "indoor" or "diet" or "calorie-reduced" or "lite" foods. Repeating what rainbow said, the reason these have lower calories is because they add carbohydrates and reduce protein/fat. Cats are not designed to digest and process large amounts of carbs. Not only does the excess get stored as fat, but you're dramatically increasing the risk of diabetes and other serious medical problems developing. Please take some time to read this link: http://www.catinfo.org/feline_obesity.htm Like Love4himies said, wet food is the way to go if you want Roxy to lose weight. If you won't feed canned, than at least practice portion-control with a lower carb kibble. List May 2nd, 2009, 04:12 PM In my experience my cats could NOT lose weight on kibble. Cat's bodies work very differently from our own, so just looking at calories won't always help. I switched my cats to wet and they lost a little weight. But when I switched to raw they looked fabulous. From your posts, its seems your very anti-raw. But its may be something to consider. In my mind its the healthiest choice. Its a billion times cheaper than either canned or kibble and its really easy to get them to a desirable weight. just my :2cents: Lukka'sma May 2nd, 2009, 09:02 PM You did a taste test:laughing::laughing: you crack me up heidi. By the way, welcome back to the forum. heidiho May 2nd, 2009, 09:34 PM I did.I tasted friskies and wellness,and the friskies tasted much better i could actaully swallow it,the wellness tasted like dirt adn i get we are not cats,but i dont care that stuff was nasty.so now i totally confused...... heidiho May 2nd, 2009, 09:35 PM wellness core says it is a raw diet?? Lukka'sma May 2nd, 2009, 09:43 PM What about home cooking for her heidi. I used to do it for Lukka and she loved it. At least you would know for sure what is in her food that way. Lots of information on the web about supplements and such that you might have to add to the food. heidiho May 2nd, 2009, 09:48 PM Hers the thing i guess i need to get out there,i cannot for the life of me find a job,thought i was gonna move back home pay off credit cards and get a place.I cant even make my car payment,so i cant go higher in price..Or start cooking her food.I am gonna get a different brand of dry feed her that 2 times a day and one can wet in the morning since everyone seems rto be pushing it down my throat,,sorry a little cranky no job and being broke will do that to u. Lukka'sma May 2nd, 2009, 09:56 PM No need to apologize. I hope you get employed soon heidi, really I do. It can't be much fun to have no prospects and worry about paying bills. Good luck to you.:thumbs up Love4himies May 3rd, 2009, 07:53 AM wellness core says it is a raw diet?? Raw diet means raw meat, no processed kibble can duplicate the raw diet. Cooking kills much of the essential nutrients that cats require such as taurine, Vit A and B. heidiho May 3rd, 2009, 10:51 AM so orjen is not a raw diet????i wil see if i can find that one if not,i might try halo ingredients sound good.and thx,yeah i am a little worried they werent kidding when i was told there is no work in phoenix,there isnt.... Etown_Chick May 3rd, 2009, 01:15 PM Sorry Heidi dog person here,just assume everyoen has dogs..lol..But I wouldn't taste cat food either...ick. I still vote for Orijen if you want a kibble. It is low glycemic so it won't spike blood sugar, which causes a release of insulin which turns energy to fat. But with your strained circumstances, the stress of worrying about your kitty is just adding to your troubles. The better food certainly costs more. I say buy the best grain-free you can. When you get back on your feet, you can look at more options. 14+kitties May 3rd, 2009, 01:51 PM Heidiho - You are one very brave woman!! I don't think I could bring myself to taste test my kitties' food. I hope I am getting this right. I'm sure SCM will set me straight if I am wrong. :thumbs up A cat needs 20 - 30 calories per pound of weight daily. So if Roxy weighs 16 pounds she should be getting 320 - 480 calories daily. If you fed her one can of wet a day that would account for most of her dietary needs. Then you could maybe leave 1/4 of a cup, or less, of dry out for her to munch on during the day. You may find this way Roxy is losing a little weight and is satisfied with her food intake. On the plus side it will cost you less than what you are paying for just Wellnes Core now to feed her one can of food a day and a small amount of dry. I leave about 1/2 a cup of dry out for my five in the house for munchies during the day. Currently Wellness Core. Most days I throw out probably half of it. They are satisfied with the canned food they get. Occasionally they get a piece of chicken, pork, hamburger, whatever we are eating. They love that too. There are some Fancy Feast varieties that are not that bad or expensive. I do believe it's the pate type food that is better for them. Again, SCM can correct me on that. Then once you find a job (not that easy in today's climate I know) you can give her a better quality food. Just my :2cents: Sujaki May 3rd, 2009, 07:42 PM Well, if its not literally raw, its not raw. xD I think you should 'shop around'. We actually bought Orijen for 23.99 for a 2.5kg/ 5.5 lb bag at this place that was a 15-20 minute drive away...I started looking for a closer place off of the Store Locator.. I found one, and the only reason I hadn't gone before was because it was called 'La Maison du Chien', so I figured it sold only dog products. :rolleyes: . Well, turned out that they sold the bag of Orijen for 6 bucks cheaper, about 17.99, which is a great deal. They were much closer, and like us, greek- so we get along swell with the owners. xD And yeah, watch calories. 20-30 per pound, depending on activity levels- and you can go for less if the cat needs to lose weight, or is very inactive/old. The feeding suggestions on the bag (any bag or can of food, always) always go to the higher scale of 30 calories per pound(I did the math!). And yeah, feeding wet is the way to go, it can save you a few hundreds in the future. :shrug: I know wet is more expensive, but the cat getting lots of water is so important. A cat on dry food that drinks water all the time gets half of the water than a cat on canned that doesn't drink much does. Maybe feed at least a third of a 5.5 oz of wellness a day, but with added water? My Chloe gets half a can a day and a quarter cup, and to make up for the water difference, I kind of make a 'sauce'. When i open a new can, I cut the food into quarters, and put it in a tupperware.. In Wellness, theres lots of yummy, fatty-gravy stuff at the bottom, as well as a few stray chunks of food... I add a lot of water and mix it up, and then pour it into the tupperware with the pate. The food soaks up a bit of the water when its in the fridge (but it doesn't get mushy!) and I pour some of the sauce in with her portion of wet. I know the volume of the sauce makes up for the water she missed in her dry meals- I put a lot, and she laps it right up. And I tasted the Wellness Core wet food once, the Chicken-y one. It tasted pretty livery, but not bad. And again, while you think it tastes too gross, what you or I think of the taste is totally and absolutely irrelevant. If the cat eats it and its healthy, doesn't matter what we think. ALL dry foods will taste gross to us, for sure. Its pretty much very, very burnt chicken and fish or whatever. Not gonna taste good to us, and we definitely dont appreciate the fat coating like cats do. If your kitty needs to lose weight, I guess 260-300 calories would do (we should have a guru check with that!).. So maybe a third of a 5.5 oz can of Wellness (about 1.83 ounces), as well as somewhere between 1/3rd and 1/2 of a cup of Orijen dry. feeding this way, the bag would last about 50 days. At 18 dollars a bag, thats 36 cents a day, maybe 86 or so counting the wet, depending on the price you get it for. Big 12.5 ounce cans are also cheaper per ounce than smaller sizes... So maybe portion everything out and freeze what would still be uneaten after 3 days so it doesn't go bad, and thaw as needed. jakhi May 15th, 2009, 10:40 AM I did.I tasted friskies and wellness,and the friskies tasted much better i could actaully swallow it,the wellness tasted like dirt adn i get we are not cats,but i dont care that stuff was nasty.so now i totally confused...... I couldn't help but respond to this....There is a reason the friskies was more palatable for you. Friskies chicken ingredients: Ground yellow corn, corn gluten meal, chicken by-product meal, meat and bone meal, soybean meal, beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), turkey by-product meal, powdered cellulose, animal liver flavor, soybean hulls, malt extract, phosphoric acid, salt, dried cheese powder, potassium chloride, choline chloride, added color (Yellow 6, Yellow 5, Red 40, Blue 2 and other color), parsley flakes, calcium carbonate, taurine, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, niacin, manganese sulfate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite. F-5005 The things i highlighted are flavor additives. Most other 'grocery' foods add sugars... I vote let kitty pick one she likes. Wellness core is WAY better than friskies! As for her being over weight feeding wet is your best option, but not the only one. If you're really strapped for cash (I understand, btw :D) why not feed her smaller portions of a better food? The high protein foods will help her build muscle, not just lose fat. I would also put her on an exercise program. Play an active game (laser pointer/wand toy) for 10-15 mins twice a day. Increasing her activity level is a great way to help her lose weight. | ||||