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WantingToLearn
April 25th, 2009, 12:31 PM
Hi,

As most of you know, I'm getting a kitten from the SPCA. I was going to get one from kijiji, but I decided to go with the SPCA because then kitten would have had all it's shots, been de-wormed, vaccinated, and spayed or neutered.

I've bought 20 cans of Friskie' cat food, half a can a week as a treat and I'm getting the litter pan and carrier in a week. I'm also trying to secure a Catit Cat Spa (someone has it on sale).

Now, all that's left is the brush, some toys, the poop scooper, tag and collar, litter and cat food.

I've been reading about litter and different types, and I live in a really small apt, so I have to choose a litter that works in small space. TidyCats Small Spaces has gotten rave reviews. Anyone else use this brand? I want the least amount of dust and tracking particles, as well as a good odor controller. I know I'll have to scoop daily, and empty fully once a week. I'm going to line the litter pan and this will make emptying it much easier.

But will this be enough to control the odor and limit the tracking and dust. I have carpets so I can't afford for it not to be vacuumable.

About the food. What do I feed? I don't think that the wet food daily is good....which is why half a can a week is the treat. But isn't dry also pretty bad. I'm on a student budget and I want to make sure that kitten is well fed and healthy. What brands are good?

Also, what am I looking at cost wise for food and litter montly? Also, how often should kitten be fed or will the SPCA go over that with me when I pick it up?

Sorry this is so long, I just want to make sure that I'm prepared.

Thanks! :goodvibes:

sugarcatmom
April 25th, 2009, 01:19 PM
As most of you know, I'm getting a kitten from the SPCA. I was going to get one from kijiji, but I decided to go with the SPCA because then kitten would have had all it's shots, been de-wormed, vaccinated, and spayed or neutered.
:thumbs up

I've bought 20 cans of Friskie' cat food, half a can a week as a treat and I'm getting the litter pan and carrier in a week.

There are better foods than Friskies, which tends to be full of poor quality by-products and grains. You might want to find some Wellness, Innova Evo 95%, Nature's Variety, Precise, Natural Balance, By Nature, Merricks, .....

TidyCats Small Spaces has gotten rave reviews. Anyone else use this brand?

My personal choice is to not to use clay litters, since it isn't good for the environment and even when they say dust-free, it never is. There are a number of plant-based litters using corn or wheat or even newspaper that you could look into. Here is a previous thread on the topic: http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=51119&highlight=cat+litter
The one thing I would emphasize though, with whatever litter you choose, is to make sure it doesn't have any added scents.

I'm going to line the litter pan and this will make emptying it much easier.

Most cats don't like the liners, and they can actually trap odours. Here is a link on litter box maintenance I recommend reading: http://www.catinfo.org/litterbox.htm


About the food. What do I feed? I don't think that the wet food daily is good....which is why half a can a week is the treat. But isn't dry also pretty bad. I'm on a student budget and I want to make sure that kitten is well fed and healthy. What brands are good?

Wet food is the only thing cats should be eating. Dry food is completely inappropriate in ingredients, texture, and moisture level. This link has some good info on feline nutrition and how to pick a commercial canned food: www.catinfo.org Spending more on food will save money in vet costs in the long run, trust me.

Also, how often should kitten be fed or will the SPCA go over that with me when I pick it up?

Kittens should eat several times a day, or free-fed if you can't be home to do that. And yes, you can free-feed canned food.

Pictures, when you do pick up your new kitty, will of course be mandatory. :D

WantingToLearn
April 25th, 2009, 02:06 PM
Thanks SugarCatMom,

I should preface my posts to say that I'm in New Brunswick, and it's difficult as is to find things for humans much less for kitty. I'm going to have to call around and see if PetsUnlimited/Petcetera/Walmart/Zellers/Canadian Tyre has these brands. Yes, these are the only stores available to me, so if they don;t have it, my goose is cooked! :frustrated: (although I suppose I could move.... :laughing: )

Can you walk me through the whole litter pan deal? Say I go to hardware store and get a 78litres bag of pine shavings (I'm assuming kitty will go heads over tail for this), would I need to sprinkle in some baking soda to keep the smell down? Also, just to confirm, I scoop every day and empty weekly. About the liner, I was just thinking about getting garbage bags from the dollar store and lining the pan then just pulling everything out to change it once a week. Why don't cats like the liner?

How much cat litter would one healthy cat go through weekly? I have to be budget conscious (I'm a student after all), but if I were to buy a 40lbs bag of Feline Pine for $20 is that a good price? And how long would that last?

Also, do cats track the litter all over the place? I ask because the only place in my apartment that's NOT carpeted is the bathroom and kitchen.

Finally, wet food it is. I'm going to see if I can return the Friskies/Whsikers deal I got from Zellers.

Thanks again for all your help, I really appreciate it. I'm going to read through the links you gave me. :goodvibes:

WantingToLearn
April 25th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Wait a minute....

Feline Fresh Pine

VS.

Feline Pine.

which is better? Is it that they are the same but Fresh Pine doesn't track dust?

P.S. I just did some more reading and found out that a 20lbs bag last for 6 weeks, which means a 40lbs bag will last for 3 months. And if a 40lbs bag costs around $15-20 then that's about $5-7.50/monthly which is well within my budget. :)

rainbow
April 25th, 2009, 05:13 PM
I should preface my posts to say that I'm in New Brunswick, and it's difficult as is to find things for humans much less for kitty. I'm going to have to call around and see if PetsUnlimited/Petcetera/Walmart/Zellers/Canadian Tyre has these brands. Yes, these are the only stores available to me, so if they don;t have it, my goose is cooked! :frustrated: (although I suppose I could move.... :laughing: )


Global Pet Foods carries the better quality brands of cat food ......

http://www.globalpetfoods.ca/locations/locations_results.php

Fredericton

Global Pet Foods
1111 Regent St., Unit 11
Fredericton, NB
E3B 3Z2
Contact: Chris
Tel.: 506-455-1133
Fax: 506-455-1133

MommaKat
April 25th, 2009, 06:39 PM
I'm near Fredericton . As Rainbow linked we do have a Global pet foods. It's in the little strip mall near M&M meats and Blockbuster. They have an awesome slection for Cat food and good member deals. We also have Petcetera which is near the mall , it's close to the new Montanas and they actually feature cats and kittens in a room for the SPCA . They (Petcetera) have really good prices on toys, beds and even cat condos.

Welcome to Pets.ca :thumbs up and thank you for adopting from the SPCA, you are literally saving a life .

sugarcatmom
April 25th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Can you walk me through the whole litter pan deal? Say I go to hardware store and get a 78litres bag of pine shavings (I'm assuming kitty will go heads over tail for this), would I need to sprinkle in some baking soda to keep the smell down? Also, just to confirm, I scoop every day and empty weekly.

I've never used just shavings, so I can't really answer that one. My kitty likes the pine pellets, but not every cat does because of the coarse texture. There are clumping pine litters like Feline Pine (http://www.felinepine.com/clumping/) which have a softer texture and are quite good at odour control all on their own.

I'd also recommend picking up a couple of the biggest size uncovered litter boxes you can find (most are woefully small). Cats usually prefer to have the choice of 2 boxes so that they aren't walking in their own waste if they need to go a couple of times while you are out. Another option is to get one of those long under-the-bed storage boxes, although they can be awkward to clean.

About the liner, I was just thinking about getting garbage bags from the dollar store and lining the pan then just pulling everything out to change it once a week. Why don't cats like the liner?

Problem with liners, especially flimsy garbage bag types, is that cats like to dig in the litter box and often snag their claws on the liner. If they puncture it, then the urine can seep underneath the liner, where it marinates the plastic litter box instead of being absorbed by the litter. It actually makes cleaning more difficult. When I'm doing a full litter box change (which is more like once a month or two rather than every week - but I also meticulously scoop my boxes multiple times a day), I just dump the contents into a garbage can and wash out the box in the bathtub. Easy peasy.

One more thing - be careful of the cleaners you use, both in the litter box and around the house, as some can be quite noxious to cats and leave lasting aromas. I prefer unscented, biodegradable products like Seventh Generation Free & Clear (http://www.seventhgeneration.com/Free-and-Clear/All-Purpose-Cleaner), although hot water and vinegar are also fine, or hydrogen peroxide based cleaners like Oxiclean (http://www.oxiclean.com/products.asp?MainNav=Products). Stay away from stuff like PineSol or bleach.

How much cat litter would one healthy cat go through weekly? I have to be budget conscious (I'm a student after all), but if I were to buy a 40lbs bag of Feline Pine for $20 is that a good price? And how long would that last?

I actually have no idea, sorry. I've never done the math and don't really keep good track of how much I go through.

Also, do cats track the litter all over the place? I ask because the only place in my apartment that's NOT carpeted is the bathroom and kitchen.

It's somewhat inevitable, I'm afraid. You can get special litter mats (http://www.catlitterboxesplus.com/Cat_Litter_Mat.html) for around the litter box but I have no idea how well they work. I just keep my hand-vac handy for sucking up those wayward pellets.

Finally, wet food it is. I'm going to see if I can return the Friskies/Whsikers deal I got from Zellers.

If not, it isn't that bad to feed the junkier foods occasionally. At least it's wet food, which is still better than dry. I just don't like the cheap Friskies stuff to be the mainstay of a cat's diet. Something else I should mention is that it's not a good idea to feed a predominantly fish-based food more than a couple times a week. Fish is actually not a natural diet for cats and tends to be more allergenic than most meats, plus it has higher levels of toxins, and can be addicting because of the strong smell. Nothing worse than trying to get a tuna-addict to eat something else.



Feline Fresh Pine

VS.

Feline Pine.

which is better? Is it that they are the same but Fresh Pine doesn't track dust?


The Feline Pine makes a clumping litter, which might be good to start with. I'm not sure about Feline Fresh.

TacoGrl
April 25th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Another thing I would do and yes, it may sound silly :rolleyes: , but I would walk around on my knees and look around and up to see what might be interesting to your new four legged friend to get into. I had to do that with these two because it had been a long time since I had younger cats in my home...look for things that can be knocked down easily if a cat should say run into the base holding it up...or plants a little too close to the ground...cupboard doors that open to poisonous cleaners, or say a fish tank (make sure there is a canopy on it-moving it away from sofas to try to discourage jumping onto it-didn't work with my Messina:rolleyes:)...things like that and I find getting down to their level makes it easier to see what they see as fun.

If you choose to use clay litter, I use Purina Maxx Scoop in the blue box...I too live in an apartment and LOVE the way it handles odors!

For food, mine both eat EVO with Fancy Feast as a treat or snack if they seem extra hungry from all the playing...plus a little snack puts them to sleep at night long enough for me to catch some shut eye :thumbs up

Buy yourself a mini carpet cleaner for any fur balls or whatnot...I have a Dirt Devil and it is AWESOME!

catgurl
April 26th, 2009, 01:01 AM
Hey Im in Freddy Town also, and am on a budget, I get the special Kitty Litter from walmart and i find it is the cheapest its less than 10 dollars and its a huge box that lasts a long time and is scoopable, as far as odor I found when I got a litter box with a top on it, it eliminated much of the dust and smell, also those boxes have air filters in them, and I would suggest not using the liners, when the cats go to cover up their business they scratch the heck out of the bag, and it makes for a big mess, and wastes the litter. then just go to the dollar store on prospect and get a cat mat to put in front of the box for when they step out. and they have the scooper for the litter at the dollar store there too

I also feed for dry food Meow Mix Indoor formula, and canned food, out of all the canned food ive given my cats expensive to cheap, their favorite is friskies, shredded (turkey and cheese) I alway keep dry food out and the wet food i give them a can a day but where u have just the one u could prob use a half can, if u start them off by free feeding them they wont have too much of a problem with over eating cause they will know that there will always be food in the dish. (When my cats were kittens i started them off on just wet then slowly started mixing in the dry food with it, i had to crush it up a bit till they got used to it.

Walmart also has really great cheap cat toys, my cats favorite toy is this circle where they can spin the ball round and round but there is a scratch post in the middle of it, the u can replace once they have scratched it all up. also I got them at walmart a cat house its made of carpet it was like 20 dollars nad they sleep in it and scratch it . theyre favorite too is at the regent mall those machines u can stick a quarter in and get a bouncy ball they love those bouncey balls.

Sorry its so long but I hope it helps :)

sugarcatmom
April 26th, 2009, 11:53 AM
as far as odor I found when I got a litter box with a top on it, it eliminated much of the dust and smell, also those boxes have air filters in them

It may have eliminated the dust and smell for you, but your cat still has to endure it every time he goes into the box. From this link: http://www.catinfo.org/litterbox.htm#Types_of_Litter_Boxes,_Size,_Number_ and_Location

Some people have actually commented that they like hooded litter boxes because there is "less odor"! This is very dangerous thinking, not to mention inconsiderate for the cat's comfort. Hooded boxes will trap odors which can lead to the catís refusal to use it. If you are using a hooded litter box to minimize odor for yourself, you must re-evaluate your thinking and consider your cat's sense of smell. Stick your head inside the box and take a deep breath. If you are unwilling to do this, why would your cat want to use the box?

Dust is also trapped in hooded boxes instead of being dissipated a bit more as it will be in an unhooded box. This can be very hard on your cat's lungs! Of course, cats do breathe in dust in any type of box since their noses are very close to the litter as they are digging but the problem is accentuated in a hooded box.

I highly suggest that you remove any filter from the top of a hooded litter box for better ventilation of odors and dust. Filters are useless gimmicks that the manufacturers claim "trap odors". Odors should be removed - not "trapped".



I also feed for dry food Meow Mix Indoor formula, and canned food, out of all the canned food ive given my cats expensive to cheap, their favorite is friskies,

Just because it's their favourite, doesn't mean it's good for them. If you had children that only wanted to eat cake and ice cream, would you let them? Here are the ingredients in Meow Mix Indoor:

Chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, ground yellow corn, brewers rice, powdered cellulose, beef tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), turkey by-product, salmon meal, fish meal source of oceanfish flavor), brewers dried yeast, gelatin, soybean oil, calcium carbonate, animal digest, .... yellow 6, ... yellow 5, ... red 40, ... blue 2, ...

There is not one single redeeming ingredient. It has a horrific amount of grain in it for an obligate carnivore to be eating, it's full of poor quality by-products, and has FOOD COLOURING!!! Do you think your cat cares what colour the little nuggets are? This "food" is diabetes-in-a-bag (or IBD, or dental disease, or allergies, or kidney disease....etc). I implore you to read this link on why dry food, and especially poor quality dry food like Meow Mix, is never a good thing to feed a cat: http://www.catinfo.org/

catgurl
April 26th, 2009, 01:59 PM
First off I dont mind suggesstions of what people have for my cats but being rude about it, and trying to make me feel like i am a bad parent for my cats is extremely inapropriate. second, I dont just use the hooded litter to get rid of odors for myself, they wont use anything but now, they like the privacy, and if u keep it clean like its suppose to be there isnt really a problem As I clean the litter more than once a day, as well as wash the box down really good once a week when i dump out and change all of the litter.
I dont have tons of money to go by what food people are saying is good for cats this week, it changes too often, for the longest time people said wet food was bad for cats, and now its dry food. give it another couple of months and people wil be saying something different. I feed my cats both, and i dont alway feed them the cheap stuff, they just turn their noses up at some of the other stuff.
I was just simply making suggesstions for someone who is on a tight budget like myself who lives in the same town.

TacoGrl
April 26th, 2009, 03:21 PM
Sugarcatmom and I don't see eye to eye on all matters feline, but she does have some great advice and endless knowledge and I have learnt a lot from her! :D I didn't take any of her comments as being rude...if anything, just educating you to the welfare of your cat.

You buy the best you can afford...what you spend now will save you in vet bills in the future...I have had cats eating crap in the past...some lived long, some didn't...the ones that didn't had VERY serious kidney issues and I felt horrible that I caused it! :wall: I have also learnt a lot about how to read labels and even common sense tells me MEAT is better than chemicals. As for covered litter boxes, they smell inside no matter how often you clean them...the smell is just trapped in there and it is disgusting! :yuck:

Love4himies
April 26th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Sugarcatmom is an absolute guru on cats. She has given you excellent advice. Give the catinfo.org website a real good read.

You may also want to try supplementing your cat on a raw diet. A properly prepared diet is the best one you could feed your cat (like you eating fresh fruit, veggies and meat). Global normally carries a brand or two.

sugarcatmom
April 26th, 2009, 04:46 PM
First off I dont mind suggesstions of what people have for my cats but being rude about it, and trying to make me feel like i am a bad parent for my cats is extremely inapropriate.

Didn't mean to be rude, and I apologize if you felt that I was. At no point did I say you were a bad parent. You do the best you can do. However, most people are not all that well informed about what cats should be eating. They just go by what the sales clerk at the store tells them, or what their vet recommends, neither of which is a good source of info most of the time.

Kibble is a relatively recent trend in the history of the domestic cat, something invented more for our convenience than for their well-being. And cats are paying a steep price for that convenience. The increase in feline diabetes, kidney disease, dental disease, bladder/urinary tract problems and digestive issues can ALL find their roots in our feeding them species-inappropriate, high carbohydrate dry food. A pet food company's top priority is to make money, and they make the most money from selling kibble. It's their propaganda that has fooled us all into thinking dry food is the best option. I'm telling you that it isn't. This is not just a "flavour of the month" issue. Cats are dying BECAUSE OF DRY FOOD!

If money is the biggest issue for you, then take Love4himies suggestion and look into a home-made raw diet for your cats. It is by far the healthiest and cheapest option. The only drawback is that it takes a little more work than opening up a bag of kibble. But your cats are worth it, right?:D

Love4himies
April 26th, 2009, 05:26 PM
You are right, sugarcatmom, I make my own raw which costs me about 45-50 cents for a 5.5 oz can. That is about as cheap as the poorest quality food. I use the recipe that is posted on catinfo.org.

My cats are so much healthier since I started them on a raw/canned diet.

onster
April 26th, 2009, 06:24 PM
About the Catit Cat spa

I had one but both my cats didnt use it. I think they much rather u just brush them (then them rubbing themselves on the brushes). Its great bonding time too. I would just spend your money on a brush/comb (depening on how long the fur is).

I ended up donating my Catit to the HS.

Oh and congrats on ure soon to be new addition! Great that u decided to adopt :highfive:

catgurl
April 26th, 2009, 07:08 PM
Thank you for the apologies, and I as well apologise for taking it the wrong way, that was just the way I took it when I read it. and you are right, there are so many things that people are not educated about when it comes to their animals.

Same here about the catspa thing only one of my cats out of three ever use it and she rarely uses it. My cats love having me groom them, However I did get them a scratch post from walmart that has an archway over it that is all a brush and they like rubbing their head on it when they have an itchy face, or when they are playing.

WantingToLearn
April 27th, 2009, 11:24 AM
Catgurl and Mommakat! This is such a hoot to see two Freddy people. Normally I mention Fredericton or New Brunswick on online forums and I get one of 2 reactions. "Hmmmph, Fredericton...never heard of it" or my personal favourite "New Brunswick? Ya, Rutgers is a good school".

Everyone else thank you so much for your input. I'm going to be working with my budget and see what I can do.

On a side note, I called the SPCA to see what the adoption procedure was. I got a relatively nice lady and she pretty much says "We have to fill out a form and then she goes over it with us, and based on our answers we get approved to adopt or not". I asked what sort of questions would be on the form for a general ballpark area...no go. I also asked if she needed pics of our apartment etc (in my defense I don't know what sort of information they need from me) and she laughed no.

So I guess we'll go and see. Any pointers? What do they ask on these forms?

Got it on the catspa. It's just as well. That kijiji lady never got back to me after standing me up for the sale.

TacoGrl
April 27th, 2009, 11:32 AM
They basically want to see if you are aware of the responsibility of having a cat in your life...if you rent, they will want to see a copy of your lease or a letter from the landlord to say it's ok for you to have a pet...they want to know if you have a contigency plan for pet care should you go on vacation or die...

It's ok to ask them questions and tell them this is your first cat...they will help you...they may even point you in the direction of a good vet.

Good luck :fingerscr You should do fine. :)

Love4himies
April 27th, 2009, 12:07 PM
They may also ask if you currently have a vet and if so, if they can call them for a reference.

lUvMyLaB<3
April 27th, 2009, 12:12 PM
Congrats on choosing to adopt your new baby!!!

Everyone has given you great advice already!, you guys are so smart!! I agree with food, I feed canned food and raw.. Please though, at least feed canned food, I would rather you feed cheap canned than dry...

The only thing I can add, is that you say you have a tight budget, try to set aside money every month, or get a credit card that is only for emergencies. Too often people get a cat, and something happens, they get hurt or sick, and don't have the means to pay for it. Hopefully nothing will happen to your baby, but it is important to be prepared just in case for some big surprise vet bills...

Good luck! Can't wait to see pics of the baby you bring home!

MommaKat
April 27th, 2009, 12:20 PM
Tacogrl is right on the money. They basically want to get a feel for your pet philosophy . They want to make sure that any pets in your home are altered and if kitteh gets sick you will be able to take him/her to the Vet.

I really like that SPCA, they strive for the best match. I adopted my cats from the Oromocto spca but I have dropped donations off to the Freddy one, it's a nice facility and they are good people so don't be nervous :D .

Here is a link to their website if you don't have it already, and it has a section for adoptable pets http://www.frederictonspca.ca/ .

Joeyjoejoe
April 27th, 2009, 12:42 PM
Here's some money saving tips. I got my cats last year (hey, next week will be one year!) and so you can avoid some of the pitfalls I went through.

Dollar store: Great for litter scoopers, brushes (make sure they are the soft tip needle brush), place mats and food bowls.

Petcetra: They are going through a liquidation sale right now since they are cash strapped and need to pay off creditors. Catit products are fairly cheap there. Same with scratching posts, carriers, beds, and cat trees. Like Petsmart, food and litter are on the crap end. You may want to hold off on the bed and cat tree for now, but a scratching post and carrier is a must.

Pet Value & Global Ryan: I got here for food and litter. No choice really. But typically if you get dry food, they will give you a rewards card (but 12 get one free) and for wet food, if you buy by the case you get a discount.

Walmart & Canadian Tire: Good for a few things like grooming supplies, mats for litters and cat treats. Cat trees are also cheaper here than pet stores. They also sell something call a Litter Locker. It's basically a diaper genie for cats. I find it's a must for condo dwellers, but maybe not if you're on a tight budget.

The best tip I can give is to not go crazy. Don't buy a ton of toys and end up with a cat that wonít play with any of them. I must have spent over $100 getting every conceivable type of cat toy and they just want to play with a laser pointer, giant plastic straws and plastic bottle caps. For now, focus on essentials.

Bina
April 27th, 2009, 03:00 PM
There is alot of good info on this thread......my cat was dumped in my yard, and she was addicted to Friskies dry food.
I bought expensive stuff and she turned up her nose at it, even when very hungry.

We have found that she will try almost everything that we eat on our own plates.....we eat boneless chicken, poached salmon, lean beef, pork, cheese, yogurt, and eggs. She actually gets a small plate with samples. It's too cute, but she would rather be a food junkie, and will eat pasta with sauce when she can. ;)

I'm sure the spca will recommend not to change her diet for a few weeks until she settles.
Then you can try to entice her with bits of good stuff.

In litter boxes we have used loose pine shavings----good but messy.
compressed wood pellets----good but hard to manage the big bags.
Currently we have scoopable clay litter----good.
We put a piece of small carpet in front of the box to help hold the tracked bits.

Miss Mitten is most entertained with toilet paper rolls, empty paper bags, empty boxes, hiding under blankets, plastic mouse, etc.
It's normal to be a nervous parent. :)

kanis
April 27th, 2009, 10:09 PM
I live in a small condo. For litter I buy wood pellets - typically used for horse stalls. VERY cheap! It varies from 9$ to 11$ depending on if I get to Bosley's or Tisol's. A big bag lasts about a month or so. Once a week I just dump the whole thing out. I've been told that it can be purchased from a Home Depot or Revy store.

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I use a litter locker too. It's kind of like the cat version of a diaper genie.

http://www.viewpoints.com/images/review/2007/257/9/1189781757-93993_full.jpg

I fed my cat Ares what I thought was healthy food and used what I thought was great litter. My poor guy suffered from asthma and a hyperthyroid. It was finally cancer that took him. After he passed, I researched cat foods etc... and discovered that the food may have been connected to his health issues. And that "low dust" clumping litter obviously didn't help his asthma. Now with my new little guys, I'm doing the best I can - high quality food and non-toxic litter.

When you know better, you do better.

Iggette
April 27th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Hi,

Now, all that's left is the brush, some toys, the poop scooper, tag and collar, litter and cat food.

Thanks! :goodvibes:


Will this be an outside or inside cat?....Either way please check out walmart for the new collars that have a safety feature....if it gets pulled upon it will undo....therefore preventing injury if caught or hung up on something...

I found a cat in my work parkinglot (Dupree now belongs to my daughter) His front leg was in the collar causing him pain ...probably trying to get it off :sad:
Personally I dont like collars for cat,s they jump around and fly and stuff....lol:D

PS However if you need one for walking get a harness much nicer for them than a collar

Tundra_Queen
April 28th, 2009, 04:02 AM
Hi

I bought a rubbermaid tote for my cats. I find it much better than the litter boxes. Willie is just too big for most litter boxes, he doesn't like feeling cramped. They are also cheaper. *S*

Also I use one of those battery operated Shark sweeper things, to keep the litter picked up around the box. It's easier than dragging out the vaccumn cleaner. And I have a rubber mat by the box to catch any litter that they bring out on their paws.

Debbie

WantingToLearn
April 28th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Hi everyone,

Thanks again. Quick short update, my friend gave me a litter box, and cat tent/carrier. I'm in the process of massive cleaning and I'm wondering what vacuum/steamer do you guys use and recommend?

Okay, back to the cleaning.

Thanks again!

P.S. Is $80 a good price for a cat tree?

Joeyjoejoe
April 28th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Hi everyone,

Thanks again. Quick short update, my friend gave me a litter box, and cat tent/carrier. I'm in the process of massive cleaning and I'm wondering what vacuum/steamer do you guys use and recommend?

Okay, back to the cleaning.

Thanks again!

P.S. Is $80 a good price for a cat tree?

The cheapest is making your own. There are a bunch of threads on that. Do a search on "cat tree" and you'll find a bunch of great ideas and how to's. You'll even find my 6 legged Ikea monstrosity!:D

$80 could be cheap, but it depends on the size. If it's only 2' tall then no. But if it's 5' or 6' then yes. I wouldn't buy one just yet. That can come later. Keep your eye on Kijiji and Craig's list. There are people that sell their used ones. You just need to give it a good cleaning and your cat will never know.

adammo
April 30th, 2009, 10:44 AM
Yay for Fredericton (that is where I am as well). As for the questionaire, it is very easy. You will need to put your landlords number on the form, but I don't believe they need permission from the landlord for cats. Other than that there were some questions like "how would you id your cat", "have you had previous pets/how many years", "have you ever given away an animal", etc.

I have a question on the dry food. I never realized it was not the greatest thing. Now that my cat has been using it for 2+ years, is it possible to switch them to wet food?

sugarcatmom
April 30th, 2009, 11:13 AM
Now that my cat has been using it for 2+ years, is it possible to switch them to wet food?

Totally possible! I switched my guy at the age of 10, and although it wasn't easy, it was absolutely worth it. There are tips for transitioning on the www.catinfo.org link, but basically the main rules are to take it slow, stop free-feeding dry (go to set meals with a measured amount of dry - which is gradually decreased) and if needed, try to make the wet more familiar or extra appetizing by sprinkling it with pulverized kibble or treats, dried bonito flakes, freeze-dried meat (Halo Liv-a-Littles or Real Food Toppers), parmesan cheese, nutritional yeast, tuna juice, etc.

adammo
April 30th, 2009, 12:06 PM
That's good to know.

I did have another question. Instead of wet food, would going to "higher quality" dry food be ok as well? We started off with some expensive stuff for my cat, but she never ate very much at all. When I moved into the other house (with a different cat) my cat kept eating the cheaper dry food that the other cat always ate. I never really knew the dangers before and feel like a bad parent now :(.

So are there any high quality dry food brands that would be ok or should I go to wet food? What about brands like Iams, and Medical?

Thanks again!

sugarcatmom
April 30th, 2009, 01:16 PM
I did have another question. Instead of wet food, would going to "higher quality" dry food be ok as well?

Nope. Kibble is a poor choice for cats no matter what the ingredients or how expensive it is. The biggest problem is the fact that it's dry. Cats evolved in the desert, where pretty much all of their water intake was from the fresh prey that they caught (60-80% moisture). Consequently, they have a very low thirst drive and when fed only dry food (10% moisture), are chronically dehydrated. This can lead to some very serious bladder and urinary tract issues, as well as possibly kidney failure.

WantingToLearn
April 30th, 2009, 05:31 PM
Hi Adammo!

"how would you id your cat",

Yes, how would I id my cat? Collar and micro chip? Don't SPCA kittens come micro chipped?

I think I'm getting cold feet. The more I acquire cat things, and clean in preparation is the more I'm scared that maybe this isn't a good idea.

Oh well, its off to a bit more cleaning and we'll see.

Jim Hall
April 30th, 2009, 05:54 PM
o comn you have had cats before


as to the food and budget issues of course it would be nice to feed as well as possible putplenty of cats i have known have thrived friskies wet
when you arent a college student or have more in the budget them no worries

as far as cat tress two boxes and a blanket a cheap book shelf

best toys cehapa
a big paper bag
some string or better a long piece of elastic like you get in sweat pants
a lazer tag that pricey but is sooo good


NO COLD FEET! the kit will be fine with a good hoooman to watch over her

cats are survivors remember

WantingToLearn
April 30th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Lol! - Kitty Pimp?! LOL!

Alas, dogs and fish yes, cats no. But I'm all set and ready. Will update after my visit to the SPCA. :goodvibes:

adammo
May 1st, 2009, 07:44 AM
Hi Adammo!



Yes, how would I id my cat? Collar and micro chip? Don't SPCA kittens come micro chipped?

I think I'm getting cold feet. The more I acquire cat things, and clean in preparation is the more I'm scared that maybe this isn't a good idea.

Oh well, its off to a bit more cleaning and we'll see.


Haha I didn't know how to answer this either. She said the microchip will be fine.

You'll be fine with a kitten. Another thing we use to play with them are different types of strings. Just run them around you, and they will be jumping all over the place.

WantingToLearn
May 2nd, 2009, 06:12 PM
http://fredericton.kijiji.ca/c-pets-to-give-or-donate-FREE-KITTEN-W0QQAdIdZ124121051

But please. This kitten is absolutely ADORABLE. And theoretically I'd be saving him/her from ...well I'm assuming from death (and from labs, and from potentially abusive homes...). If this cat has been vaccinated and neutered/spayed, couldn't this be a good option? I'm just saying, does it really matter where I get my kitty from, as long as I am prepared and able to give it a good home? To be honest, my b/f is leaning towards this darling from Kijiji, and I'm still open.


I know people say that by adopting from the SPCA I'd be saving a life, but wouldn't I also be doing that by getting one from kijiji as well?

adammo
May 2nd, 2009, 06:30 PM
http://fredericton.kijiji.ca/c-pets-to-give-or-donate-FREE-KITTEN-W0QQAdIdZ124121051

But please. This kitten is absolutely ADORABLE. And theoretically I'd be saving him/her from ...well I'm assuming from death (and from labs, and from potentially abusive homes...). If this cat has been vaccinated and neutered/spayed, couldn't this be a good option? I'm just saying, does it really matter where I get my kitty from, as long as I am prepared and able to give it a good home? To be honest, my b/f is leaning towards this darling from Kijiji, and I'm still open.


I know people say that by adopting from the SPCA I'd be saving a life, but wouldn't I also be doing that by getting one from kijiji as well?


Normally the problem is that most of these kitten are not neutered and spayed. I looked at the kijiji way first as well as the SPCA did not have any kittens. But to be spayed and the shots would have cost me close to $300. If you purchase through the SPCA they cost $125 and include all of the shots and being spayed. At least I think I have that right...

rainbow
May 2nd, 2009, 07:22 PM
The kitten on Kijiji may be "free" but I really doubt that it is spayed/neutered or been wormed or had it's first shots and been vet checked. By adopting through the spca you are getting all that done for alot cheaper than getting a so-called free kitten and having it done yourself.

Also, by taking this kitten you are supporting someone that has not bothered to get their cat spayed and may very likely allow it to get pregnant again.

Spring is the time that most kittens are born and May is the month that the spca usually gets many of them dropped off. Please keep checking as I'm sure you will find one there that you fall in love with.

MommaKat
May 2nd, 2009, 08:47 PM
Also if you adopt from the SPCA you are supporting an organization that's mostly run by volunteers . Also the cost of adopting a cat is usually less than what they put into it. They are lucky to break even on costs .

Oh and if you adopt from the SPCA you are freeing a spot so another needy cat can go in. I know for a fact the Fredericton SPCA has to turn animals away because they are so darn full :sad: .

Tundra_Queen
May 5th, 2009, 04:36 AM
Hi
I just wanted to mention something about letting kitten or cats play with string. If they eat it it can get wrapped around their interstines and they will need surgery. It can also kill them. They can get it wrapped around their necks or whatever if they are left unattended with it. ( Im a worry wart.) I only allow mine to play with string when it is attached to the other end of an interactive toy.

Debbie

Marty11
May 5th, 2009, 09:25 AM
I have an idea about food! Small towns always have a feed mill. I used to buy quality food from one here in ON. Check it out.