March 9th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Since Skylar's bloat episode a few weeks ago, DH and I have been absolute nervous wrecks, paranoid every time she eats her kibble that she's going to bloat again. We've decided that we need to feed her RAW to put our minds at ease.
Right now, we don't have alot of time to do real raw, so I'd like some advice on all the prepared raw foods or dehydrated raw out there.
What should I look for in the ingredients? Is there anything I should avoid comepletely? Should I supplement with RMBs and Tripe?
Are there any brands that are recommended.
March 10th, 2009, 12:41 AM
Any prepared raw brands that I could personally recommend are not available in your area because what I feed is made locally in BC :D Many members are happy with Nature's Variety Raw (http://www.naturesvariety.com/raw_products)
Supplementing with a probiotic will rebalance the good bacteria in the gut, I recommend to start prior to feeding raw.
For meat you want free range non-medicated hormone free, it is recommended to start with chicken because it is easily assimilated by the digestive system unless your dog has an allergy to chicken.
From In The Raw's Raw Seminar
*Meats digest in the following order (ease of assimilation in the digestive
tract): Eggs, chicken, fish, tripe, lamb, beef followed by the exotic
and wild meats and turkey.
Absolutely feed RMB:
From In The Raw's Raw Seminar
*Entertainment Bones; femur, knuckle, rib and shank-beef, buffalo, lamb,
musk ox, venison etc. These bones are essential for oral health and
hygiene, Mother Natureís toothbrush! They are loaded full of essential
nutrients and the ingested bone waste will aid in cleaning the anal sacs.
Bones also provide excellent mental and muscular stimulation.
*Meal Bones; carcass, backs, necks, wings- chicken, duck, lamb, ostrich,
quail, turkey etc. These bones are softer, meaty and packed with
nutrients. Again, these bones will aid in dental health and the bone
waste will aid in cleansing the anal sacs. They provide an essential
balance of calcium, phosphorous and other vital minerals and nutrients.
*SOME CAUTIONARY NOTES ON BONES!*
*Always choose bones larger than your pets mouth capacity. At least 1
to 1 Ĺ times the size of the width & girth of the mouth.
*Always supervise your pet while chewing on bones. Do not hover they
will attempt to gulp down the bone.
*Sometimes your pet will regurgitate a bone. DONíT PANIC! Look at the
size pieces youíre feeding are they too big or too small for the size and
veracious nature of your pets eating habits. Adjust if necessary.
*Puppies, kittens, seniors and beginners choose softer bones like backs,
and necks. They are a softer cartilage & bone mix and are padded with
meat all around so they are easily digested.
*Be wary of poultry leg bones (the drum) they are long and hollow,
some pets donít chew these properly and therefore do not digest
properly. Recommended for experienced feeders ONLY!
*If unfamiliar with bones you may have to teach your furfriend to eat
their bones slowly and safely. Be prepared to hold the bone for your pet
as they become accustomed to eating them. In time they will be more
than capable of handling them on their own.
* Always feed bones opposite or after the heaviest exercise period.
*NOTE: if you have more than one pet you may want to feed in separate
areas at first to avoid squabbles over their bones. They are the ultimate
treat and some furkids like to protect them!
*Bones can be messy, train your pet to eat from a washable mat, bowl or
in a smaller enclosed room like a bathroom or laundry room. The best
option is outside in good weather.
*Remember, you are dealing with *RAW MEAT* exercise proper hygiene
Tripe is great but 2-3 times per week maximum. Overfeeding organs will result in diarreah :yuck:.
-avoid Fresh salmon only feed frozen or steamed salmon
-pork is not easily digested also generally high in salt
-corn is okay in limited quantity but never the cob
-eggplant, pepper and tomato must be cooked
-potatoes must be skinned and cooked
March 10th, 2009, 04:03 PM
I bought some Nature's Variety Chicken patties and some Lamb patties as well. I also bought a can of tripe to see how she likes it. I'll have to get some probiotics and get her started on that. Perhaps I'll crack an egg into each meal again (we were doing it daily up until the bloat episode, the ER vet looked at us funny when we told her we give Skylar raw eggs on her kibble and then told us not to.)
I hope that eventually we can do raw properly, but for now this will put our minds at ease. And I hope that Skylar enjoys a "fresher" meal.
March 10th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Just a note on raw egg whites:
Also from In The Raw's Raw Seminar
*Eggs are Mother Natures complete protein source. If you feed eggs as a
staple protein then the egg yolks should be fed raw and egg whites
should be cooked lightly! There is a protein ďAvidinĒ, in raw egg whites
that interferes with the absorption of Biotin (http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1662&aid=712) into the system. However if
you feed eggs occasionally this is not so much of a concern.
Lightly cooking the egg whites inactivates Avidin.
I'm sure Skylar will enjoy her new diet very much :D
March 10th, 2009, 06:59 PM
We did pre-made raw for a little while before switching to homemade. I tried a few brands - NV, Paws and Claws Pet Pantry, Healthy Paws, Mountain Dog Food and Paws-itevly Raw.
My favourites were the locally prepared ones - Paws and Claws, Healthy Paws and Paws-itevly Raw. I'm in Oakville, so I'm sure you'll be able to find these brands. Paws and Claws seemed to be the best priced and the makers are great at getting back to you if you have any questions.
When we fed the pre-mades I would sometime feed it in the am, and then a chicken quarter at night, or tripe at night. That process made switching over to doing 'homemade' raw easier.
March 10th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Good to know about the egg whites Growler. I'll definitely keep that in mind.
And I'll check out Paws and Claws, Healthy Paws and Pawsitively Raw. I've heard of Pawsitively Raw, they sell it at the Pet Valu here in Milton. It would be nice to buy premade raw that's made close to home. Thanks List.
March 15th, 2009, 10:27 PM
Phoebe gets her food from Buddies Natural Pet Food in Saanich BC, but most of what they sell you could get from most butchers, making sure it's hormone free. Everything is frozen and cut into one pound blocks. We buy ground chicken backs and necks, ground turkey necks, ground beef and organ mix, ground duck, and something called Butcher Block, which is a mix of meat, organs, veggies and bone dust. The other important products are: green lamb tripe (ground lamb stomach), this is like yogurt for dogs, one or twice a week. Salmon oil, one squirt in her breakfast, and kelp/alfalfa/yeast powder, multivitamins for dogs. She also gets a tin of sardines (in spring water) once in a while, raw marrow bones a few evenings a week, and an egg in her breakfast every other morning.
A balanced diet is balanced over a week or so, not necessarily all in one day. And for vets/pet food sales people that tell you it is dangerous to feed raw food because of e-coli/salmonella, remind them that dogs eat poop, roll in dead animals and lick themselves, and drink out of mud puddles, so that argument is completely invalid. And people have been preparing raw chicken, turkey, and beef to cook for their family, in their own kitchens, for EVER, there is no more danger to your family if you just put the raw meat in your pets food bowl instead of your oven.
Long live your pet! Feed them raw food!