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Just need to rant about girly stuff.

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 10:13 AM
This may be TMI, but I need to rant.

I've had my period since I was 14. At that age, I was excited about it. I remember being jealous of my cousins who had already had theirs for a couple of years. At that age, I felt quite the little lady. I felt like I was privy to some secret only women know.

Now I'm 41 and I wish I could just give this secret away already!!

OMG, enough already! I know some day I'll regret saying this, no doubt when I'm in the midst of having a hot flash, but I wish I'd start menopause already. I see menopause as my step closer to being rid of this THING forever! I hate it. I hate it so much, I've actually bee envious of the two women I know who have had hysterectomies! I sit and pray to whoever is listening, "Kids are pretty much out of the plan for me here, so you can have this thing back now. Give it to someone who needs it. Make it go away."

Right now, I'm cranky (as you can tell), I have a headache, I'm hungry, in fact I'm starving and I've had breakfast! I'm crampy and I feel like screaming.

AAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!

Love4himies
January 22nd, 2009, 10:37 AM
Why can't we get spayed? :laughing: I am so jealous of my kitties. :D

BenMax
January 22nd, 2009, 10:40 AM
Well it's just a fact of life. The best medicine is to go with the flow. Don't let this get in the way of normal everyday routine.

When I feel yuckky - I take my dog for a walk or do something that I love such as painting. I soon forget about this curse and my mood is lightened.

My motto is to find anything that makes you happy - and go with it.

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 10:40 AM
:laughing: I was telling my girls the other night how lucky they were that they don't have to deal with this!

Oksana never went through heat, I spayed her before she had the chance. Kiska unfortunately, had her first heat a week before I was to take her in to be spayed, so Tiny Miss had to go through it once. Czari, I don't know if she ever experienced it or not, but she also doesn't need to worry.

Bah, I think if I had the spare cash, I would seriously consider it.

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 10:42 AM
Well it's just a fact of life. The best medicine is to go with the flow. Don't let this get in the way of normal everyday routine.

When I feel yuckky - I take my dog for a walk or do something that I love such as painting. I soon forget about this curse and my mood is lightened.

My motto is to find anything that makes you happy - and go with it.

I'm trying to keep busy today, just so I don't have it on my mind. I keep going to my calendar and counting the days I may have left. Which stinks because I just started!!!:frustrated::mad:

breeze
January 22nd, 2009, 10:43 AM
I'm sorry your feeling so icky ancientgirl..:grouphug:

I can't wait for the magical "M"..but people tell me it is worst than the dreaded "P"

Dracko
January 22nd, 2009, 10:49 AM
I'm 41, too, and until the last couple of years my cycle has been nothing but a nightmare. When I was 19 the solution they had was a hysterectomy, though as my mom refused.

Menopause can't come too soon for me. :thumbs up

breeze
January 22nd, 2009, 10:56 AM
until the last couple of years my cycle has been nothing but a nightmare.

Menopause can't come too soon for me. :thumbs up

I understand that one.. it use to be every 30 days now it's down to every 21 days:frustrated: with migraines and cramps that could cripple an elephant..

so I'm with you on it can't come fast enough

babymomma
January 22nd, 2009, 11:05 AM
Yea, lucky you. Your 41, So you probably dont have to muchtime left of the crap. Im 15 and I have the worst ones in the world. I ahave never been "Regular"

I have went 8 months with no "P" and Then, BAM. Here it comes. FOR 3 WEEKS! Now im down to going 3 months without it and then having it for 3 weeks:frustrated:

Lovely, absolutely lovely!:rolleyes: Sooo. Lucky you. I still have 35 years or more of the stuff! lol Seriously. I have the worst pains even when it does come!

AmericanBullMom
January 22nd, 2009, 11:07 AM
I'm sorry AG! I'm only 20 and I am also SOOOO ready to rip it all out!

I'm already an emotional person, and then, when its THAT time, I'm an emotional wreck! Cramps, and back aches... UGH!

I've cheated a couple times and taken my BC pills back to back just have a month off!

Not So Doc Brittany's Rx:
Hot bath, and some advil... and of course us here at Petsca for moral support!!

Winston
January 22nd, 2009, 11:10 AM
Got you all beat! Between 2007-2008 I had it for 8 months straight....

This time around it has been with me since Sept???? But I am on the list!

There is a waiting list of 5 months...I am praying that it happens just in time for summer! Then I will have between 6-8 weeks off to get better!

Just not looking forward to having surgury but its gotta be better than this..

So anytime you feel bad think about having it everyday for 8 months straight...

Cindy

babymomma
January 22nd, 2009, 11:11 AM
OMG. I would have been afraid that I would bleed out, winston!:eek:

AmericanBullMom
January 22nd, 2009, 11:12 AM
Got you all beat! Between 2007-2008 I had it for 8 months straight....

This time around it has been with me since Sept???? But I am on the list!

There is a waiting list of 5 months...I am praying that it happens just in time for summer! Then I will have between 6-8 weeks off to get better!

Just not looking forward to having surgury but its gotta be better than this..

So anytime you feel bad think about having it everyday for 8 months straight...

Cindy


OMD...... I.... would rip it out myself at that point.
You're definitely right on this one, I'll keep my 5 day period ANYDAY!

Winston
January 22nd, 2009, 11:13 AM
Be thankful your just a youngin! :D Its very draining!

breeze
January 22nd, 2009, 11:14 AM
Got you all beat! Between 2007-2008 I had it for 8 months straight....

This time around it has been with me since Sept???? But I am on the list!

There is a waiting list of 5 months...I am praying that it happens just in time for summer! Then I will have between 6-8 weeks off to get better!

Just not looking forward to having surgury but its gotta be better than this..

So anytime you feel bad think about having it everyday for 8 months straight...

Cindy


OMG how do you live??

I'm 49 in a couple of weeks..I asked for "M" for my birthday, but not sure I'm going it get it.:sad:

thought about going in for surgery but they say that I'm not a good candidate yet..:frustrated:

jessi76
January 22nd, 2009, 11:14 AM
why don't you get on a pill, patch, or injection (depoprovera) that can regulate your cycle, lessen the time, or make it so you only have it a few times a year? I think seasonale gets you down to 4/yr. if you want to go the natural route, consult with your doc about starting on a natural progesterone cream regimine. this is a cream that is made at a compounding pharmacy, then applied to thin skin areas (wrist, feet, etc) so it's absorbed well, and it can actually lessen the intensity of your period and help regulate your hormones.

Keep in mind what you EAT has a HUGE role in how you feel. MANY foods contain chemicals which your body preceives as, or turns to, estrogen. which can make cramping a whole lot worse. likewise, certain foods can also cause water retention and headaches, especially at "that time".

breeze
January 22nd, 2009, 11:15 AM
OMD...... I.... would rip it out myself at that point.
You're definitely right on this one, I'll keep my 5 day period ANYDAY!

5 days?? lucky you...

8-14 days

Winston
January 22nd, 2009, 11:17 AM
Jessi its funny you should mention that! Thats what started my problem.....At least thats what the doc thinks anyway...All from 2 shots of depo provera...I have tried all remedies and beleive me nothing works...As a matter of fact I am taking a pill now that is for hempheliacs! its supposed to help me stop bleeding.. How do I live you ask! patience....now DH thats another story...:D

CearaQC
January 22nd, 2009, 11:18 AM
Me too. It sucks.

Try Evening Primrose, Red Raspberry leaf, Yarrow and Nettles in a tea form for relief.

jessi76
January 22nd, 2009, 11:21 AM
yes, i believe it. I tried the depo when i was a teen and had a few issues... namely a period that seemed to last forever... it did stop, eventually. It's just a matter of finding what your hormones tolerances are and what will work for you. I spent MANY long years on every pain killer known to man... had mulitple surgeries... and went through hell for what was finally diagnosed as endometriosis and adenomyosis. I did alot of research, got off all drugs, and went the natural route (the progesterone cream) and it was by far the best way of balancing me out.

depo doesn't work for everyone, but it does help some women. just like the pill or patch, and the many dose levels of all of those.

AmericanBullMom
January 22nd, 2009, 11:22 AM
Jessi its funny you should mention that! Thats what started my problem.....At least thats what the doc thinks anyway...All from 2 shots of depo provera...I have tried all remedies and beleive me nothing works...As a matter of fact I am taking a pill now that is for hempheliacs! its supposed to help me stop bleeding.. How do I live you ask! patience....now DH thats another story...:D

DF calls women Aliens....

"Nothing can bleed for a week and NOT die. Therefore, none of you are human."

I told him to watch it, I know who cooks his dinners and does his laundry. Not to mention I know where we keep the sharp knives.....:evil:

badger
January 22nd, 2009, 11:24 AM
ancient, if you hate your 'monthly visitor' so much, you should go on a light dose of birth control pills; problem solved. There are even some medical minds who now think that constant periods are not optimum for a woman's health. Google 'suppressed menstruation' and check it out.

Menopause ain't no picnic either.

TacoGrl
January 22nd, 2009, 11:33 AM
What I hate the most is that people seem to know when it's your time of month and they do things just to annoy you! :frustrated:

Every month is different for me...a potpouri of fun! Some months I can't even get out of bed from headaches...others, I can't get out of the bathroom...and then others go by without a glitch! I don't get it...I am too old now to go on the pill and I too am not a good candidate for surgery...

I never know when to expect it to come either...I am under a lot of STRESS and that certainly does not help...I have been a month and a half without one...maybe I should plan something important...that'll make the evil thing rear it's ugly head!

sugarcatmom
January 22nd, 2009, 11:43 AM
Another option for some might be an IUD. Hurts like an S.O.B. going in, but afterwards - no more periods! For at least 5 years!

LavenderRott
January 22nd, 2009, 11:47 AM
Be careful what you wish for.

I am a couple years older then you and am peri-menipausal. I wish my periods were the 5 days long that they were a year and a half ago. Or if, when they were over - they were really over for the month. Or that, on two of those 5 days, I just had a heavy flow instead of the gargantuan flow I have now.

And I am not even up to hot flashes and mood swings!!

Ford Girl
January 22nd, 2009, 11:49 AM
I tried the depo when i was a teen and had a few issues...

depo doesn't work for everyone, but it does help some women. just like the pill or patch, and the many dose levels of all of those.

Funny how we all feel the same yet different about this womenly issue. :)

I feel the opposite - altho Im just 31, my experience trying to get preggers changed my outlook on my period and "hating" it.

I was on depo for years, loved it - no period, no side effects, camping trips without periods, vacations without periods, uninterrupted sex life. :cloud9: What more could a 25 year old girl ask for? lol!! I LOVED IT! Then, when I decided to try to get preggers it took me 2 years to get my period to start up again and another year to regulate it - and several more months to concieve, all the while hating the fact that I messed with it to begin with. It cause our infertility and delayed treatment with specalist due to the fact i intentionally stopped my period. After 3+ grueling years of trying to concieve, dealing with awful pms once it returned - I swore I would never mess with my womenly cycle ever again!

I still feel this way. I was more disappointed with not getting my period regularly then I ever was with a negative pregnancy test. It made me feel disapointed with my body, wishing it was "normal".

I do agree its not pleasent, it hurts like a SOB at times and makes you feel down right yucky! But I personally feel lucky to have it now because of the struggles Ive been thru. I will never again go on birth control let alone something that would stop it all together.

Ask me again when Im 50 if Im still cycling. lol!

They do say the time line you hit menopause is hereditary - and you can base your big M time around when your mother went thru hers - give or take a few years either way. My mom went thru it at 37 so I might not have that long to go before it ends. ;)

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 01:19 PM
Badger, unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover ANY birth control medications or procedures. They are nice enough to cover Viagra. If I was a 50 something year old man with erectile dysfunction, I'd be set.

Winston, holy moley woman! I think I'd go insane if I was going through what you are. My hats off to you for not killing everyone in sight!:laughing:

Ford Girl, when I was in my 20's and part of my 30's, I just dealt with it. I had the hopes of getting married and having children. I was up for it.

As I slowly began going through my 30's, I realizes I was likely not getting married any time soon, if at all. I also saw what my friend was going through with her kids. She'd had a baby and as I observed her, I realized, maybe motherhood just wasn't for me. At least not mother to a baby.

Now as I am in the start of my 40's, I know I do not have the patience for a baby or small child. I'm not dating so therefore, my marriage prospects are zero right now and I will not even think about having a baby being single.

So the way I see it, I don't really don't need to have this any longer. I've heard the same about women gauging their menopause start by when their mother started theirs, but my mother passed away when she was 42 so I really am flying clueless here.:shrug:

Right now, I'm sitting at my desk, with half a bag of Hershey's miniatures laying in wait. The chocolate is helping. :D

14+kitties
January 22nd, 2009, 02:04 PM
Oh ladies....... please do not wish for what you really don't want. I have myself gone through the lonnnngggg P's, the b@#@#iness, the two tampons, two pads at a time, etc, etc, etc. I have had the big "M" for the last 8 years. It ain't what it's cracked up to be.
Don't be fooled into thinking you all of a sudden become little Ms Sunshine! You still get the biatchiness every month, like clockwork. Along with... sweats that will drive you insane, freezing till your teeth chatter, being constantly dizzy, need I go on. The sweats are bad enough that you will be standing not doing a thing and you will have sweat pouring off of you. Really nice when you are trying to look after customers. :rolleyes: Along with that you get the flushed face. Believe me, please don't wish for the big "M".
A hysterectomy isn't much better either. You have to be on hormone replacement for the rest of your life to try to regulate your body's natural system. It doesn't garantee anything. Also not garanteed to turn you magically into an :angel: at that time of the month. My sister sure isn't and she had one at 22! Not to mention the multiple cancers that taking this drug can cause. Yeah...... fun!!!!!

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 02:11 PM
14+, I think what I'm mainly wanting is, no more mess. :yuck: OMG I can't stand it. My friend is a pad user, and she tells me I'm crazy to use tampons. We get into so many debates over which is the yuckiest one to use, but they are both equally as nasty.

And I did the math! At the average price, counting the ups and downs of inflation, in my 27 years of this joyful womanly experience, I've spent (give or take a few dollars) $1,296 on feminine products.

OH, and I've boycotted any and all Always products. "Have a happy period?" Yeah, right.

Love4himies
January 22nd, 2009, 02:15 PM
I don't understand why after a hysterectomy do we need hormone replacement pills, why don't we just revert back to how we were when we were children. Why do cats not need hormone replacement pills after they are spayed? Or maybe they do, Sweet Pea is not so sweet sometimes. :frustrated:

Love4himies
January 22nd, 2009, 02:16 PM
OH, and I've boycotted any and all Always products. "Have a happy period?" Yeah, right.


:laugh::laugh::laugh:

No such thing.

Love4himies
January 22nd, 2009, 02:17 PM
Isn't there a new procedure that can be done to eliminate periods? Maybe with a laser?

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 02:21 PM
I don't understand why after a hysterectomy do we need hormone replacement pills, why don't we just revert back to how we were when we were children. Why do cats not need hormone replacement pills after they are spayed? Or maybe they do, Sweet Pea is not so sweet sometimes. :frustrated:

:offtopic:L4H, I saw this program on National Geographic the other day. In the Womb - cats. They noted something interesting. It said that scientists think that female cats who were in the womb sandwiched between two males can sometimes absorb some of their testosterone. That's why some females tend to be a little snarky if you will. Just thought I'd put that out there. I know Czari can be a bit angry at times, but I often equate that with her being a stray for so long. But then I have Oksana who has never been a stray and she has days when she won't let anybody near her without hissing and swatting and fighting.:shrug:

14+kitties
January 22nd, 2009, 02:22 PM
I don't understand why after a hysterectomy do we need hormone replacement pills, why don't we just revert back to how we were when we were children. Why do cats not need hormone replacement pills after they are spayed? Or maybe they do, Sweet Pea is not so sweet sometimes. :frustrated:

The hormone replacement is more for if the ovaries are taken too. I don't know many doctors who will perform a hysterectomy just for the sake of not having periods any more. There has to be a medical reason for it. As for reverting back to when we were children....... do we reallllyy want to go back? Talk about playing in a sandbox! :rolleyes::D

onster
January 22nd, 2009, 02:22 PM
I dunno bout IUD..my mom has one and it has caused her nothing but grief since!

Im lucky, my Ps have always been ok. Well maybe not alwaaays...i remember when i was younger I would continuously wish I could just saw my lower body off :frustrated:.

my friend throws up continuously every time she gets hers tho..poor girl.

Love4himies
January 22nd, 2009, 02:24 PM
The hormone replacement is more for if the ovaries are taken too. I don't know many doctors who will perform a hysterectomy just for the sake of not having periods any more. There has to be a medical reason for it. As for reverting back to when we were children....... do we reallllyy want to go back? Talk about playing in a sandbox! :rolleyes::D

:laughing: I didn't mean maturity wise, but as children we don't have periods and don't suffer from hot flashes or mood swings.

onster
January 22nd, 2009, 02:28 PM
but when ure a kid u just wanna be a grown up....most kids think their life isnt a bed of roses...cuz its just sooooooooooo unfair u dont have a playstation u know :rolleyes:

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 02:30 PM
Onster, when I was in my late teens, I used to have to drink a shot of Anis the mornings I'd get my period for the cramps. Believe it or not, it gave me a lot of relief, LOL and a nice buzz.

I also used to have months with no period, and my doctor had to put me on birth control to help get it regular. And, up until a couple of years ago, I'd periodically faint my first morning. My blood pressure would get really low and many times I whacked my forehead good on the bathroom sink because I'd fall in the bathroom. I'd usually have to stay home because I'd feel totally drained all day. I haven't had an episode like that for a very long time.

pieperd
January 22nd, 2009, 02:44 PM
My understanding when it comes to spays/neuters, is that if it is done before the hormones change, there are less issues to deal with. For example, I've had 2 females that were spayed at 5 months. They were a bit hyper, but never had issues with food and such. I have a Chocolate lab, who after she was spayed at 2 1/2 years, is voracious. She always gained weigh just before and lost it after, but now we have to hide all food, or she will eat it.

I believe people are the same way. Once the hormones start, there is no going back. I am now 44 and anticipating the pre-meni and dreading it. I don't like my period either, but I've seen the mood swings and such from those who are going through menopause. It isn't pretty. I use midol before it starts, and say to myself, "happiness" is a choice.

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 02:49 PM
I will gladly take pills to make myself happy. I've done it before. I'm prepared for that. Speaking of which, I need to ask my doctor for a refill.

I've just sent this email off to Procter and Gamble, the makers of Always:

Can you please stop using that idiotic slogan. I have never in my life met a woman who has a happy period, and I know of no one who thinks your slogan is cute or funny. It is insulting and condescending.

It's like wishing a man all the best with his impotence!

dustybird
January 22nd, 2009, 03:44 PM
"Have a happy period" yay right:wall::evil: a man had to have come up with that one...a single man without sisters raised by his father.

My p's have always been irregular and continue to be at 33yrs. Cramps that make me just want to die. I have found that advil or tylenol and one of those heat therapy wraps are a god send. Playtex use to make them to put on your abdomen on your underware but I think thermacare makes them now to, if not the ones for your neck work well. I'd be lost without them.

It also comes at the worst time, I failed an exam in highschool once as I just couldn't take it anymore, left half way through. Home was an hour walk away, no bus. I remember passing out as soon as I got in the house and only woke up when my dad hit me with the front door as my pathetic body was blocking it.

http://www.thermacare.com/

Since our bellybutton serves no purpose once out of the womb I have always wished it was an actual button. That you only use to clean out the system when preparing for a baby otherwise don't touch....only in a fantasy. I know a few people who are on the pill and never stop taking it so as not to have a period, supose to be safe. I can't as the pill makes me reallllllly depressed and moody.

I don't know about menupose....it's sounds just as bad to me....ahhh being a girl can really suck sometimes. It's not fair, it's bad enough that we have it but to have all that goes with it. Back pain, leg pain, feeling like someone is hitting you with a sledge hammer between your legs(best way I can describe it), leg pain, nausea, sore breasts, mood swings and the list goes on. Gee I can't wait for the next one:sad:

TacoGrl
January 22nd, 2009, 03:52 PM
I will gladly take pills to make myself happy. I've done it before. I'm prepared for that. Speaking of which, I need to ask my doctor for a refill.

I've just sent this email off to Procter and Gamble, the makers of Always:

Can you please stop using that idiotic slogan. I have never in my life met a woman who has a happy period, and I know of no one who thinks your slogan is cute or funny. It is insulting and condescending.

It's like wishing a man all the best with his impotence!



:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Karin
January 22nd, 2009, 04:06 PM
I was spayed in 1981 at the age of 23. (I also have my rabies vaxs, still waiting to be adopted though)
The only thing the surgeon left in was my left ovary. I started menopause 2 years ago which I think is amazing since I am now 51. Not saying menopause is amazing here ladies, it sucks!
But it is getting better, I take Estroven, can't live without it. I can only take natural replacements due to a history of breast cancer.
When your time comes, please do not take premarin! It's cruel....if it is still made the same way. (Pregnant mare's urine)
Not having a period since 1981 has been bliss!

dustybird
January 22nd, 2009, 04:12 PM
If anyone had read this before I deleted what I posted , it's because I thought some of the jokes were to rude as I finaly had time to read through more of them.

cell
January 22nd, 2009, 04:53 PM
The best medicine is to go with the flow. very punny

Karin
January 22nd, 2009, 05:25 PM
If anyone had read this before I deleted what I posted , it's because I thought some of the jokes were to rude as I finaly had time to read through more of them.

There were jokes? Hmmm..

I must have missed something.

cassyhoof
January 22nd, 2009, 05:27 PM
Ancientgirl my heart goes out to you,I am now 34years old and I can honestly say I have never had any problems with "p" every 4 weeks then really light for two days. The only times i suffered with "p" was when i gave birth to my 3 children, i hemmoraged with all 3 of them really bad but other than that fine. My best friend on the other hand,when she has "p" she becomes possessed by the devil, she has to lie in bed with a hot water bottle for about 3 days, she suffers really bad cramps, headaches and heavy heavy bleeding poor love. I feel for you so much and i can't imagine what your going through, try taking your mind off it if that's possible. I'll keep all my fingers and toes crossed for you to reach the big "m" soon and hopefully all your years of suffering will be long gone. My mam has had no problems at all on the "m" so hopefully you'll be like her xxx


In memory of my little cassyhoof missed tons :angel2:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

dustybird
January 22nd, 2009, 05:54 PM
They were little jokes and letters people had sent to the genious who came up with the "Have a happy period" and comments or funny life experiences. Such as a young girl cuts her knee and ask mom where the band-aids are, she says under the sink and young girl tries to use a maxi pad with wings...not knowing what it is, of course mom is mortified as they have company and daughter comes into the room wearing it on her knee, or a young boy trying to find something he can use as a pretend microphone...I think you can guess what female hygeine product that would be.

Written by women so not offensive to women but due to the fact there are people of all ages on here I thought it best to delete the link. Also I didn't want to make light of how horrible the p can be or what some of us go through, just sometimes a little laugh is good. But again as I read through more of the site I didn't think it would be proper.

Shaykeija
January 22nd, 2009, 06:03 PM
Well I have not hit menopause yet. I cannot take hormones. The doctor told my husband he will have to just learn to live with a biatch for 10 years...:D

I am thinking tequila and prozac for me and another house for him :laughing:

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 06:04 PM
The good thing is, we can all empathize with each other. It's something we've all experienced. I'm thankful I can at least rant like I just did and have people not tell me to suck it up and that it's all in my head!:laughing:

I'm actually feeling better this evening. Hopefully, this one won't last too long.:pray: I'm hoping they get shorter and shorter in the next coming years.

BusterBoo
January 22nd, 2009, 06:28 PM
Well....ladies.....if you think menopause will be better than the dreaded "P"...think again :D

I am going to be 56 in March.....and last November I had a regular period....oh joy! Called the Dr and she scheduled me for a biopsy ...yea..MORE PAIN!

I started my periods at 12 yrs old....I finished the "regular" ones around 50, endured the hot flashes (HOT??? more like burning), night sweats, day sweats, biatchiness....tears....always tired, never tired....oh ya...all those things can happen.

Now I am in a happy zone....I take my estrace, prometrium and a little something to help me sleep a regular night.

Hysterectomy....nope....Dr won't do it...I have cried, begged, pleading...offered bribes..but nope...she won't agree to ripping out all the useless plumbing inside of me :laughing:

By coincidence....as I type this.....Oprah's show is all about menopause!

ancientgirl
January 22nd, 2009, 06:45 PM
I know the Big M won't be a picnic. But I plan on asking my doctor to give me as many drugs as there are to help me get through it. :D

My biggest issue with my period is the mess. I just hate it, I'm tired of it. :yuck:

Kahne9Lover
January 22nd, 2009, 06:52 PM
why don't you get on a pill, patch, or injection (depoprovera) that can regulate your cycle, lessen the time, or make it so you only have it a few times a year? I think seasonale gets you down to 4/yr. if you want to go the natural route, consult with your doc about starting on a natural progesterone cream regimine. this is a cream that is made at a compounding pharmacy, then applied to thin skin areas (wrist, feet, etc) so it's absorbed well, and it can actually lessen the intensity of your period and help regulate your hormones.

Stay away from the Depo injection. I was on it for 12 years "P" free for all 12 of those years, but it caused a 30 lb. weight gain, and increased blood pressure. Now they only recommend it for short uses of a couple of years. I just started getting my "P" again, and it's like going through puberty all over again.:yell::yuck:

Karin
January 22nd, 2009, 08:04 PM
Well I have not hit menopause yet. I cannot take hormones. The doctor told my husband he will have to just learn to live with a biatch for 10 years...:D

I am thinking tequila and prozac for me and another house for him :laughing:

High Fives Chickie! I like the way you drink...uhm, Think.*thats it*...lmao!

lUvMyLaB<3
January 22nd, 2009, 09:10 PM
ugh! I agree... I have HEAVY and irregular ones now, never used to be, used bo like clockwprk till I had my last baby.. a boy! yup its always the men.... i HATE how it seems to have this thing against me really evil aunt flo... I never to know when to expect her, but she is planning andwaiting for the worst day to pop in.. like last month know when she showed up??? CHRISTMAS morning! that was so kind and thoughtfull of her, finding the worst of all days.....

My godmother is going through the big M and she is sure struggling so I do not envy her, last week we were in a basement and it was so cold I was freezing, all of a sudden she got so hot! she was sweating and took everything off but a t shirt and OH she had pants too oops, anyway and she was still hot, I had my winter jacket on.. her hubby says that she can thaw a turkey in 10 minutes with her bare hands..

I thought the difference was if a hysterectomy took just the uterus or the uterus and overies.. it is the overies that make the horemones so if they leave those u do not need replacements... and with cats

Dog Dancer
January 22nd, 2009, 09:31 PM
Well I hear you all ladies. I'm 50 now and still have the lovely gift every month. I get migranes with mine and have one as I type. At 44 I spoke to my ob-gyn about getting my tubes tied and he told me "we don't usually do that for women YOUR AGE!!" I just about punched him. I tried the depo shots also and like Winston they were horrible for me. Sure I didn't get pregnant, because I bled non-stop for months on end, even once I stopped taking the shots. The other thing - and this is why I decided to jump in here - they don't recommend the depo for long term use in birth control as it causes bone loss. So, I don't know if that was mentioned here yet or not as I skimmed through (the screen is kinda bright with my headache), but felt it was important to mention so you can make the right choice with as much knowledge as possible. Be cautious of the Depo shots.

And I also HATE HATE HATE the Always - Have a Happy Period commercials. Yup had to be a man who came up with that doozy, it is insulting.

Karin
January 22nd, 2009, 09:44 PM
Spaying worked for me, I 'm just saying..:)

happycats
January 23rd, 2009, 06:10 AM
I hate mine too, they are awful, Biotchie, and painful!!
I heard there was and IUD out that stops your cycle completely!!:)....I want to ask my doctor about it, I'm seriously considering it, and you can leave it in for up to 10 years! (until the big M)

If you stay away from all salt, I find that really helps with the cramps.

sugarcatmom
January 23rd, 2009, 06:38 AM
I heard there was and IUD out that stops your cycle completely!!:)....I want to ask my doctor about it,

Yup, it's called the Mirena (http://www.mirena-us.com/what_is_mirena/index.jsp) IUD, and it's awesome! But it's very expensive if you don't have a good drug plan ($300), and it really really hurts when they put it in.

Maxine
January 23rd, 2009, 07:32 AM
Hi ladies!! I just wanted to say thaT i got the Mirena last november, it does hurt when they put it in (like a huge cramp we all know of anyway!!) but I am fine now, and I have only heard great comments about it from all the women I know use it. It is expensive if it's not covered but I think it is worth it.

Maxine
January 23rd, 2009, 07:33 AM
I think it's covered by the Quebec health gov though, you wouldn't need private insurances.

ancientgirl
January 23rd, 2009, 07:43 AM
That Mirena sounds like something worth looking into. How long did the pain last? Was it just during the procedure? Do you know what happens when you take it out? Do you get the non-stop bleeding for several days or weeks?

I should talk to my GYN. I have my yearly appointment in March. I'm going to call my health plan. I already know they don't cover it, but may as well ask to be sure.

jessi76
January 23rd, 2009, 08:08 AM
Two excellent resources for learning about hormones, and how to balance them out... just incase you'd like to explore a natural method that won't break the bank.

http://www.johnleemd.com/
http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/

luckypenny
January 23rd, 2009, 08:09 AM
The Mirena doesn't necessarily stop periods altogether. An IUD can also increase cramps and bleeding in many women during menstruation. Just a heads up as it's not for everyone.

I started my period at 10, and now at 38, doc told me I'm starting menopause. I can't figure out if I'm happy or sad about it :o. Although I was 'fixed' many years ago, menopause is really final, ya know? It's the beginning of another physical stage in a woman's life and just reminds me I'm getting older :o.

I think BenMax has the right idea, exercise, stretching and doing the things that make you happy help a lot...as does the right food. Humor is what gets me through the worst of it. Those are the couple of days of the month I get to really take care of myself, something I don't think to do at any other time so it's kind of a mixed blessing :shrug:.

ancientgirl
January 23rd, 2009, 08:16 AM
I just did some reading on Mirena and called my carrier, they don't cover it and it's pricey. I may talk to my doc about the pill and perhaps just taking straight through without the fake pills.

Jessi, I'll give those links a read, thanks.

Maxine, I live in the US, so I'll have to pay for it.:sad: It's not covered by my plan.

jessi76
January 23rd, 2009, 08:22 AM
When I was on the NPC (natural progest. cream) it cost me aprox. $30/mth. it is NOT covered by insurance, well, last time I checked it wasn't. You can pay between $15-$40 for a store bought cream from a natural store, or you can spend about $20-$30 to have it specially made for you at a compounding pharmacy, all you'd need is a doc's Rx. My doc agreed to read my research, then called to tell me he AGREED with it all, and was happy for me to try it. Since then he's put many of his other patients on it. Not all doc's are open to the idea of natural hormone therapy though.

BenMax
January 23rd, 2009, 08:25 AM
very punny

ahhh you got it! (I have a strange sense of humour sometimes).:D

mona_b
January 23rd, 2009, 10:25 AM
I started having issues 8 years ago when I got my tubes "burnt" and went off the pill.

For 8 years I have been cramping and bleeding like a SOB....I pop Tylonal 3's like they were candy..This is the only thing that helps..In Oct my period lasted a month and a half..My iron was VERY low. Something that can be very dangerous..So I was on iron pills. I have been on a few different meds..My last meds was a pill with no estrogen..I'm a smoker so I am limited as to the meds I can take...Well like Winston, I'm on the waiting list for a Hyst..It was mentioned about maybe July..I said not possible as my nephew/godson is getting married then. And I will NOT miss it...:D

I'm not looking forward to it..Spending 3 days in the hospital is not my cup of tea...:sad:..The 8 weeks off will be nice...:D

As for the depo...My sister was on it for a while..She was having issues..She's been off it for about 4-5 years...She has Osteo and is only 51...The only good thing about going off of it is she has BOOBS...:eek:..Seriously, she became the same size as me(small:sad:) after her 4th child..BUT she has BOOBS...I'm jelous....:cry:

There are issues with the depo..This could be bone issues to fertility problems in some women.

Here are some links.

http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/advice-support-523/advice-support-40/ttc-support-fertility-conception-difficulties-39/230895-problems-depo-injection.html

http://caloriecount.about.com/depo-provera-ft33406

http://www.babyandbump.com/your-health-wellbeing/35296-depo-warning-personal-info.html

http://www.monheit.com/Depo-Provera/blog.html

the list goes on.

14+kitties
January 23rd, 2009, 10:38 AM
July Missy Mona? JUly???? NOOOO!! You can't wait that long! So do you have to wait till after the wedding now? I hope not!

I am still sticking with my original reply. Don't wish something on yourself you really don't want. Yes, having no mess every few weeks is nice. The rest is not so great. Oh, one of the other joys of the big "M"........ incontinence. I can't tell you the number of older women who still have to buy pads just for that reason. I am lucky..... so far.....

BenMax
January 23rd, 2009, 10:44 AM
July Missy Mona? JUly???? NOOOO!! You can't wait that long! So do you have to wait till after the wedding now? I hope not!

I am still sticking with my original reply. Don't wish something on yourself you really don't want. Yes, having no mess every few weeks is nice. The rest is not so great. Oh, one of the other joys of the big "M"........ incontinence. I can't tell you the number of older women who still have to buy pads just for that reason. I am lucky..... so far.....

Are you serious 14+? Our pad days may not be over.........forever??? Well knowing this I say welcome to the monthly! And I will keep my crappy attitude as well thank you very much.

mona_b
January 23rd, 2009, 10:49 AM
July Missy Mona? JUly???? NOOOO!! You can't wait that long! So do you have to wait till after the wedding now? I hope not.

Well I tried for March even April. This way I have the 8 week recupe time.Not going to happen.:sad:..The wedding is July 25th..So the only thing is to have it after the wedding....The 6 month waiting period SUCKS....:cry::cry:


BUT maybe if someone cancels in March or April they will give it to me....:D

14+kitties
January 23rd, 2009, 11:01 AM
Are you serious 14+? Our pad days may not be over.........forever??? Well knowing this I say welcome to the monthly! And I will keep my crappy attitude as well thank you very much.

Completely serious! It's a sad thing.

Well I tried for March even April. This way I have the 8 week recupe time.Not going to happen.:sad:..The wedding is July 25th..So the only thing is to have it after the wedding....The 6 month waiting period SUCKS....:cry::cry:


BUT maybe if someone cancels in March or April they will give it to me....:D

Awww :grouphug: to you my friend. :sad:

ancientgirl
January 23rd, 2009, 11:12 AM
OY, 14+, don't tell me I'm going to have to wear a diaper for the rest of my life!:yell:

jillybeanrocks
January 23rd, 2009, 11:17 AM
Got you all beat! Between 2007-2008 I had it for 8 months straight....

This time around it has been with me since Sept???? But I am on the list!

There is a waiting list of 5 months...I am praying that it happens just in time for summer! Then I will have between 6-8 weeks off to get better!

Just not looking forward to having surgury but its gotta be better than this..

So anytime you feel bad think about having it everyday for 8 months straight...

Cindy


I'm in the same boat as you! I have PCOS and it causes irregular periods and we're having an impossible time getting pregnant (been trying for 2 years). I once had it for a year straight and then the next year I didn't have it at all. I've now had it for over a month with no signs of it going away.

It really does suck when you can't plan ahead for things like vacations etc.

I've tried various birth control methods (the pill, depo, etc) and nothing works. I actually thought I was losing too much blood when I had the depo shot, it was so heavy that I would use a tampon and a pad and had to change both every half hour. :yuck:

Winston
January 23rd, 2009, 11:17 AM
Mona B I notice your a Hamiltonian! God maybe they will book us at the same time!

Doc told me last week she would push me up the list but I want to be off for the summer! So I am hoping for June or July....

I am not looking forward to the hospital stay but yeah for 8 weeks off!

Do you think if I asked for a teeny weeny tummy tuck they may oblige? I figure right where the incision is gonna be I have a little roll...maybe she could just tuck it in and sew me up??

Good Luck Mona B! maybe I will see you there! :D

Cindy

14+kitties
January 23rd, 2009, 11:18 AM
OY, 14+, don't tell me I'm going to have to wear a diaper for the rest of my life!:yell:

:laughing: Not necessarily a diaper AG. Some women get by with panty liners. But more often I see women in their 60s, 70s, older buying pads. It is quite amusing sometimes to see their hubbies come in to buy the pads for them. The poor guys get pretty redfaced.

Winston
January 23rd, 2009, 11:30 AM
Jillybeanrocks..All I can say is I feel your pain.:thumbs up ...Do you have GYN?

jillybeanrocks
January 23rd, 2009, 11:55 AM
Yes I have a GYN, he put me on Metformin which helps to some extent, but I find as a side effect it makes everything taste awful so I admit that I do not take it as it's prescribed to me all the time. I am a bit overweight so I've been trying to get that off before the doctor will prescribe clomid to help push us along.

Having your period all the time sure does affect our lives on multiple levels. I just hope as I lose some weight it will correct itself and I'll be able to join in on the baby thread! :thumbs up

Chris21711
January 23rd, 2009, 11:55 AM
I'm 300 years old and have been fortunate to deal with "M" with not too much trouble....some folks are not that lucky, it is different for everyone. I didn't take any hormone drugs to overcome some of the symptons, not into those kind of drugs much :laughing:

Now it's over and gone the way of the Dodo it's great :thumbs up

BenMax
January 23rd, 2009, 12:06 PM
I'm 300 years old and have been fortunate to deal with "M" with not too much trouble....some folks are not that lucky, it is different for everyone. I didn't take any hormone drugs to overcome some of the symptons, not into those kind of drugs much :laughing:

Now it's over and gone the way of the Dodo it's great :thumbs up

300! OMG you are to funny!:laughing::laughing::laughing:

ancientgirl
January 23rd, 2009, 12:07 PM
:laughing: Not necessarily a diaper AG. Some women get by with panty liners. But more often I see women in their 60s, 70s, older buying pads. It is quite amusing sometimes to see their hubbies come in to buy the pads for them. The poor guys get pretty redfaced.

Panty liners aren't too bad, but sheesh, it would suck if once I thought I was done with these things, I'd still need them.:rolleyes:

Bearsmom
January 23rd, 2009, 02:27 PM
Got you all beat! Between 2007-2008 I had it for 8 months straight....

This time around it has been with me since Sept???? But I am on the list!

There is a waiting list of 5 months...I am praying that it happens just in time for summer! Then I will have between 6-8 weeks off to get better!

Just not looking forward to having surgury but its gotta be better than this..

So anytime you feel bad think about having it everyday for 8 months straight...

Cindy

5 MONTHS??? I had exactly the same problem you had, (but it was last year from January to May, I finally went into see the surgeon May 1 and had a hysterectomy May 29th. Best thing I ever did.

Bearsmom
January 23rd, 2009, 02:33 PM
I don't understand why after a hysterectomy do we need hormone replacement pills, why don't we just revert back to how we were when we were children. Why do cats not need hormone replacement pills after they are spayed? Or maybe they do, Sweet Pea is not so sweet sometimes. :frustrated:

If they leave your ovaries in, you do NOT need HRT. I'm not taking any.

Bearsmom
January 23rd, 2009, 02:35 PM
The hormone replacement is more for if the ovaries are taken too. I don't know many doctors who will perform a hysterectomy just for the sake of not having periods any more. There has to be a medical reason for it. As for reverting back to when we were children....... do we reallllyy want to go back? Talk about playing in a sandbox! :rolleyes::D

I got mine done solely because they could not stop the bleeding by any other means.

Love4himies
January 23rd, 2009, 02:38 PM
If they leave your ovaries in, you do NOT need HRT. I'm not taking any.

But then wouldn't you go through menopause? I just want to avoid both :p

hazelrunpack
January 23rd, 2009, 03:32 PM
L4H, you don't necessarily need hormone replacement--in fact, with the side effects, many doctors are counseling against it. HRT is useful if the someone needs a hysterectomy early in life to avoid things like osteoporosis. But if you're just going through menopause normally you don't need it unless you're excessively bothered by the symptoms. Menopause isn't a disease to be treated, although many doctors used to treat it as such.

Hysterectomy will result in menopausal symptoms, which are caused by the change in your body's hormonal cocktail. So I'm afraid you're stuck either way :p

They're not so bad, though. Hot flashes are really keeping our heating bills down this winter. :thumbs up

:laughing:

Winston
January 23rd, 2009, 03:42 PM
Yes Bearsmom I cant wait...sounds weird to look forward to something like that but I have tried everything! nothing works so I have no choice!

I said when the problem started I should have taken up shars in the "Always" company I could have bought my own company by now! :thumbs up

Doc says they leave the ovaries and let you go into menopause naturally no hormones needed. My problem is also aggravated by fibroids..

Maxine
January 23rd, 2009, 04:28 PM
AG, I hope you find something that suits you :grouphug: The pain from the Mirena lasted about a week, everyday getting less painful. You can take the pain away with Advil.

LP, I think the worsening in cramps are from the 'cuivre' (copper, I think, in english) one, wich isn't a Mirena. Mirena is plastic and contains some hormones. The majority of women using it do not have periods while they have it in :thumbs up

chico2
January 23rd, 2009, 04:42 PM
OMG,girls,you are all having so much trouble with your P's:confused:
I am 302yrs old,never in my life had trouble with my P's,other than the yucky stuff..also I went through menopause with flying colors,took Swiss made HRT,no sweats,mood-swings or anything like that,I guess I was lucky.
A friend of mine used to get soaking wet,all redfaced and embarrassed,she really suffered,but not everyone does.

I think women today live differently than when I was young,too much stress etc...which effects your cycle(I don't mean the 2-wheel kind):laughing:

14+kitties
January 23rd, 2009, 05:37 PM
I got mine done solely because they could not stop the bleeding by any other means.

Yes, I would say that is a medical reason. I am talking about the people who say they want it done just to not have periods. A doctor that does it for that reason in my mind is not a good doctor.
I was close to having one done. Still have fibroids but they are shrinking naturally. I do not take any meds for meopause. I figure if I have to suffer so does everyone around me. :D j/k But I do get some weird looks from customers when I start flushing. :rolleyes:

happycats
January 23rd, 2009, 06:12 PM
Yup, it's called the Mirena (http://www.mirena-us.com/what_is_mirena/index.jsp) IUD, and it's awesome! But it's very expensive if you don't have a good drug plan ($300), and it really really hurts when they put it in.

Thanks for the great link, looks like it may be good for me!
$300.00 is still cheaper then the pill for 5 years, and definately cheaper then a baby :D

sugarcatmom
January 23rd, 2009, 06:50 PM
$300.00 is still cheaper then the pill for 5 years, and definately cheaper then a baby :D

Amen sistah!! Not to mention all the money you save not having to buy "feminine hygiene products". No, it isn't absolutely guaranteed to stop your periods, but for the majority of women, it does. I only had cramping for a day or 2 after it was put in, then spotting for a couple weeks, and nothing since (8 months ago). I think it's fantastic and wish I'd done it sooner, but one thing I would recommend is having a gynecologist insert it rather than just your regular doctor. They will likely have much more experience and be more comfortable with the procedure.

joeysmama
January 23rd, 2009, 06:57 PM
No offense to any of the men who might read this but can you even imagine a man having to put up with this. (sorry guys but really, I know my husband would take to his bed and cry for a week)

But when I get my period he gets annoyed with me as though I get it on purpose !!

I'm 51 and I still have the same kind of cycle I've always had (anywhere from 3 days before to 3 days after it should be due) and I still ovulate. No hot flashes, no menopause symptoms. We're going to go on record as the oldest living couple still using birth control. The pill is no longer an option and it feels silly for either of us to have surgery at this point. (Besides the insurance won't cover it which is why we never did that to begin with) So he goes to the drugstore and looks around to make sure there's no one there he knows. It's just embarassing at our age.

My friend told me about her friend in the midwest who got pregnant at 52 !!!!:eek:

hazelrunpack
January 23rd, 2009, 07:39 PM
One of my parent's close friends in Milwaukee was 51 or 52 when she had their youngest. The midwest seems to be a very fertile place. :o :laughing:

ancientgirl
January 23rd, 2009, 08:20 PM
:eek:Holy cow! Heck, I would not look forward to having a baby at 41, much less 51!!

hazelrunpack
January 23rd, 2009, 08:24 PM
She thought she'd finally hit menopause! :laughing: What a surprise, eh?

ancientgirl
January 23rd, 2009, 08:33 PM
sounds like a nightmare to me.:yuck:

Stacer
January 23rd, 2009, 08:39 PM
Oh my, this is a painful thread to read. Some of the problems you ladies have are ca-razy.

I've got my own problems though, not as painful or as messy.

At this point I'd kill for a regular period. I've been so irregular since I got aunt flo when I was 13 (30 now). I went off the pill almost 3 years ago and and I've had maybe 9 or 10 periods, mostly without any ovulation (the lining gets too thick so it drops without hormonal help).

We're trying to get preggers and my irregularity is making it extremely difficult, we're actually seeing a fertility specialist right now. In the last month I've had some tests done that no lady should have to endure to find out what's going on with the baby makin' parts. Hopefully I'll be on some fertility drugs shortly and get this uterus doing what I want it to. :D

ancientgirl
January 23rd, 2009, 08:52 PM
Oh my, this is a painful thread to read. Some of the problems you ladies have are ca-razy.

I've got my own problems though, not as painful or as messy.

At this point I'd kill for a regular period. I've been so irregular since I got aunt flo when I was 13 (30 now). I went off the pill almost 3 years ago and and I've had maybe 9 or 10 periods, mostly without any ovulation (the lining gets too thick so it drops without hormonal help).

We're trying to get preggers and my irregularity is making it extremely difficult, we're actually seeing a fertility specialist right now. In the last month I've had some tests done that no lady should have to endure to find out what's going on with the baby makin' parts. Hopefully I'll be on some fertility drugs shortly and get this uterus doing what I want it to. :D

Stacer, I'm sure the fertility will help, just be prepared to possibly get more than what you asked for. :D You just might have all the kids you planned on at once.

Stacer
January 23rd, 2009, 09:00 PM
Stacer, I'm sure the fertility will help, just be prepared to possibly get more than what you asked for. :D You just might have all the kids you planned on at once.

Hey I'm cool with that. One pregnancy and 2 or 3 kids would be awesome. DH could get his vasectomy and we'd be set. Get it all out of the way at once. The more I think about it, the better the idea becomes!

TeriM
January 24th, 2009, 02:02 AM
We're trying to get preggers and my irregularity is making it extremely difficult, we're actually seeing a fertility specialist right now. In the last month I've had some tests done that no lady should have to endure to find out what's going on with the baby makin' parts. Hopefully I'll be on some fertility drugs shortly and get this uterus doing what I want it to. :D

Good luck Stacer :goodvibes:. We did a course of in-vitro once (our problems were on dh end) and "ouch" is what I've gotta say :D. Actually the daily shots and hormones weren't that bad for me. The egg retrieval was very uncomfortable but not horrible. The worst part for me was afterwards my body seemed to take a good year or so of getting back to normal. My ovaries were pissed and every ovulation subsequently that year was very painful :shrug:.

I have actually been very lucky overall and mostly my P is just an inconvenience. I am very regular (26 days which means that every year I get an extra cycle compared to a 28 day person :frustrated:). I am noticing changes in the last few years (now 41). My P is shorter (now 3-5 days instead of 5-7) and am actually more crampy :shrug:. My mom had an easy M so I am hoping to follow in her footsteps :pray:.

My sympathies to all of you with horrible cycles :grouphug:. I have a friend where it is debilitating complete with migraines and another who has such bad fibroids she had the full "spay".

chico2
January 24th, 2009, 07:08 AM
It must be something about the times we live in,or maybe because women have kids at an older age:confused:
I had all 3 of my kids before I was 26yrs old,the first at 18yrs old(not recommended:laughing:).
I don't think anyone should consider a Hysterectomy unless absolutely needed for medical reasons,it is major surgery after all .
It is done too often in Canada,the same as C-Sections IMO.

14+kitties
January 24th, 2009, 11:04 AM
I had my three before I turned 28. First one at 18 also chico. And you are right. Not recommended. But I am glad I did. Mine had all moved out of the house on their own :sad: and then I went and met a man with two young boys so I started over again. :wall: Enough already! Oh well, they will be gone soon enough.

chico2
January 24th, 2009, 11:40 AM
14+,it's kind of strange,looking at my oldest who is 47 this yr,my son is becoming middle-aged:yell:that makes me OLD:laughing::laughing:

ancientgirl
January 24th, 2009, 12:50 PM
This is why I don't think I want to have kids. I would have loved to have had some, but in my 20's. Now, I just don't think I would want to go through that.

chico2
January 24th, 2009, 04:04 PM
AG,if I could start over,I probably would still have had kids,hopefully not as sick as 2 of mine were.
Although I did not even have a crib for my first,living with my mother,having that little baby-boy,made me grow up and mature really quick.
Young couples today,need a house,a couple of cars,careers,before having kids,which is great,but a baby only needs love.:stork-baby:

14+kitties
January 24th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Very well said chico. Now come talk to my daughter!!! :frustrated: j/k It's her decision about whether or not they will have kids. I loved every moment of raising mine. Well, mostly every moment. :rolleyes:

chico2
January 24th, 2009, 04:24 PM
You know 14+.I would have been a great grandma,that's the only disappointment (one of the biggest anyway:sad:)in my life.
I would have loved a little baby to spoil:stork-baby:

14+kitties
January 24th, 2009, 04:31 PM
You are right. You would have been a great grandmother!!
Me too. It's not too late yet. I still have my sons if my daughter decides not to have kids. 'Course they have to meet the right women first. :rolleyes: Then there are the stepsons too. They might decide to have kids when they get older and settle down. Right now my kitties and dogs are my babies.

chico2
January 24th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Yeah,my cats are too,but I cannot pass by kiddie clothes without touching them in the store.:laughing:
Hubby keeps saying,we don't have any grand-kids,leave it:yell:
I was sooo upset when my oldest divorced after 10 yrs,I loved my DIL,she wanted babies but was unable too.
My youngest at 39,lives an alternate lifestyle,so no babies,but that's ok,I am relatively happy with what I have.

14+kitties
January 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM
My oldest says he would love to have a child or two but he needs to find a woman first. The one he's seeing....... :sad: I would not want her to have my grandkids. My daughter and her hubby are busy building a life - house, cars, etc. My youngest has just met a girl on line and is threatening to move to BC. :eek:
And I think we have managed to majorlly(sp) highjack this thread!! :o:sorry:

ancientgirl
January 24th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Don't get me wrong guys, I would have loved to have kids. But it's just that right now, at my age, and the way I like to live, I just don't see it happening. I'm not into having kids so late in life. I don't have patience to have a baby, and I just don't feel that I want to give that much of myself. I know it sounds bad, but that's probably a sign right there that I should not have kids now.

A friend of mine is having her first next week. She's around my age, 40, but she's living with her boyfriend, her mom is helping her buy a house and will be home to take care of her baby. So she will not only have her mother's help, but she will have her boyfriend with her, who she hopes to marry one day.

I don't even have a boyfriend, not even a good prospect. I would have no one to help me take care of a baby. My aunt practically raised her grandkids because she took care of them so my cousins could work and not have to pay daycare. No way could I afford daycare, or diapers, or food or clothes for a baby on my own.

At this point in my life, I just have to learn to be okay with that and for the most part I am. I don't know, maybe that's why I spoil and love my cats so much. Maybe I just see them as the babies I could never have.:shrug:

Stacer
January 24th, 2009, 07:06 PM
I think that's the thing with having kids, no one's really ready (mentally, financially etc...)
But like my friend kept telling DH and I, if you keep waiting for everything to line up before you have kids, you never will, because things never ever line up the way you want them to.

So now we're trying to make a baby even though we're scared s#!tle$$ :D A good dose of fear never hurt anybody, right?

mona_b
January 24th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Awww :grouphug: to you my friend. :sad:

Thank you....:grouphug:

OY, 14+, don't tell me I'm going to have to wear a diaper for the rest of my life

LMAO..Depends for the REAL heavy days........:laughing:

Mona B I notice your a Hamiltonian! God maybe they will book us at the same time!

Doc told me last week she would push me up the list but I want to be off for the summer! So I am hoping for June or July....

I am not looking forward to the hospital stay but yeah for 8 weeks off!

Do you think if I asked for a teeny weeny tummy tuck they may oblige? I figure right where the incision is gonna be I have a little roll...maybe she could just tuck it in and sew me up??

Good Luck Mona B! maybe I will see you there!

Hey maybe..;)

We can hold hands in the recovery room.........:D:p

I asked her if while they were doing it, could they do some lypo.:D..She laughed.LOL

Good luck to you.

Hmmmmm, maybe we have the same gyno.;)..Mine is on Main st.

I too have fibroids..And I swear one had to have burst a few months ago(if they burst)..I woke up in so much pain..Even cried..I had to sit up and rock myself..And I was sweating like crazy...Lasted 2 hours and then I was fine.:shrug:

I can't wait to have it done...More so cause I just can't take the pain and heavy flow...And with my job, it's hard for me to just stop what I'm doing to go for a diaper change(that's what I call it..lol)

14+kitties
January 24th, 2009, 08:18 PM
If I am not mistaken (and I usually am) it is the cysts that burst. I have been told by a few friends who have gone through it that it is a very painful experience for a while then it's gone. :shrug: Maybe the same thing you went through Mona?

mona_b
January 24th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Hmmmmm, maybe...:shrug:

All I can say is, what an experience that was....:sad:...And thank god it stopped when it did, I had to to work that morning..So I was up almost 3 hours before I should have...:sad:

Shaykeija
January 24th, 2009, 09:00 PM
14+,it's kind of strange,looking at my oldest who is 47 this yr,my son is becoming middle-aged:yell:that makes me OLD:laughing::laughing:

Not old just well seasoned....

chico2
January 25th, 2009, 06:34 AM
14+.I am sorry,I tend to stray:offtopic:and I think nobody tells me cause I am a senior:laughing:known to stray..waaaay off!:sorry:
Thank's Shaykeija,,I am fine ,not much different since I was 50,just a bit slower,more wrinkly etc,etc...but I've earned my wrinkles:laughing:

Mona,Winston,good luck with your surgeries,I am surprised at the long waiting-period,but then again,this is Ontario!
Stacer :fingerscryou get preggers:stork-baby:

SnowDancer
January 25th, 2009, 10:44 AM
There is a thread on the EssentialDaySpa forum for those "55 and older" - or basically those who have gone through menopause. You might want to check it out - it has scared a lot of the younger ladies who have read it. I take one shot of Estrogel a day along with one Prometrium pill - and I do so because I have always had very dry skin and hair and I wasn't about to make it worse, if that is even possible. Since sleep remedies don't work for me, they are not an option. I haven't had a hot flash - probably since I have never been warm in my life. I didn't hit menopause until Nov. 2007 - I was 57 - so surprise would have been if I wasn't. Sure it is nice not to have a period and they were often very uncomfortable, not regular and I also get bad migraines - BUT - and there is always a BUT - you often trade one set of problems for another. Now that so many women are developing osteo OHIP is now paying for bone density tests every 3 years instead of 2 years (as of May 1, 2008) and for mammograms every 2 years instead of every 1 - unless you are at high risk. The reason of course is that "women" are at risk. The over 55 thread is funny and sad at same time - especially when people who have always looked younger than their years - seriously - as opposed to thinking they looked younger - all of a sudden over night turn into what they refer to as "old crones" and wonder who that person is reflected in the mirror. Doesn't happen to men due to the fact that they don't lose collagen as we do - and lips don't thin etc. The part that is really annoying are the comments from say the 30 somethings who ask with fake sweetness "what happened to your skin"? - as if their day won't come. Many of these ladies want to move to where no one knows them, cut their hair, and let the grey grow in. I know exactly what they mean. And then their is my husband who asks why I have a new wrinkle. Many of these ladies are using the Clarisonic and every other electrical device and getting fillers - with rosacea and other allergies, not possible for me. So be careful what you wish for. I will trun 59 in August so far so good on the HRT (I can take it because I do not have any health reasons not to) but I can certainly notice a difference.

Bearsmom
January 30th, 2009, 12:08 AM
Well, I've gotta say as someone who went through a hysterectomy, it's just not that bad.

I had to fight my doc tooth and nail to have it done. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor when I insisted on having it done (after a d&c and a run of HRT where I stopped bleeding for 2 whole days) and my doc's response to my request was, "well, what does your husband say?". My reply was, "does my husband have a uterus?". It's shameful that in this day and age, my husband would have a say in MY overall health. They wound up removing a 4 lb fibroid from my uterus (thus the constant g*ddamned bleeding) during the hysterectomy.

There is a history of cervical cancer in my family (mom died of it in 2006), so MY decision was to have the ht. Aside from not being that active for about a month, it was the BEST thing I've ever done. The BEST. I now happily dance past the feminine supplies aisles.

I've not experienced early menopause, nor any of its related symptoms.

ancientgirl
January 30th, 2009, 07:59 AM
Well, I've gotta say as someone who went through a hysterectomy, it's just not that bad.

I had to fight my doc tooth and nail to have it done. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor when I insisted on having it done (after a d&c and a run of HRT where I stopped bleeding for 2 whole days) and my doc's response to my request was, "well, what does your husband say?". My reply was, "does my husband have a uterus?". It's shameful that in this day and age, my husband would have a say in MY overall health. They wound up removing a 4 lb fibroid from my uterus (thus the constant g*ddamned bleeding) during the hysterectomy.

There is a history of cervical cancer in my family (mom died of it in 2006), so MY decision was to have the ht. Aside from not being that active for about a month, it was the BEST thing I've ever done. The BEST. I now happily dance past the feminine supplies aisles.

I've not experienced early menopause, nor any of its related symptoms.

Wow, it's unbelievable he'd ask you if you asked your husbands permission. WTH? I don't blame you for wanting it done though, considering your family history.

One of our account reps at a carrier we work with had a hysterectomy done just before the holidays. I think she was out for about 3 or 4 weeks. She said she really hasn't had a difficult recovery. I think it just depends on the person. I've hears horror stories and then I've heard stories where it wasn't that bad.:shrug:

kandy
January 30th, 2009, 11:29 AM
I've had the Mirena IUD since 2006 - and I love it. I didn't get it for the birth control (dh is cut), I got it because I have severe endometriosis and the pain from my periods was unbearable. Pain killers don't work on me and the pain was so bad that I could not stand up sometimes. The doctors would not recommend me for a hysterectomy because the actual flow wasn't considered heavy, but instead just kept giving me prescriptions for different useless pain killers. I finally had enough and went to a gyn in the closest big city to me. Suprisingly he agreed that I shouldn't have to live with pain like that and said that in order to stop the pain, we needed to stop the cycles. He was the one who said we'd try the Mirena first and if that didn't work, we'd just yank that baby. LOL I could've kissed his feet I was so happy that someone was actually going to do something about it. There was a bit of pain during the insertion of the IUD, but nothing like the pain I'd have with my periods - and once he was done inserting it, the cramp faded. I have some very light spotting now and again, but I have not had a full blown period since I got the IUD. I am a smoker, and old enough that the use of normal birth control to control the pain is out of the question due to risk of stroke - the gyn said that the levels of hormones in the IUD are low enough that it would not be a problem. My insurance would not cover the IUD because they consider it birth control, but my regular doctor said that when its time to replace it she'll write a letter telling them that the IUD is to control the endo, and the only other choice is a hysterectomy so that they will cover it.

Before dh had his vasectomy, I used the depo shots for 5 years. During that 5 years I gained more than 40lbs (which I have never been able to take back off...ugh). I loved not having any periods but I hated getting that shot. I haven't had a bone density test, so I don't know if it affected me that way or not.

ancientgirl
January 30th, 2009, 12:22 PM
I'm seeing my GYN the first week of March, and you can bet I'm talking to her about some relief from my period. My insurance won't cover the Mirena and I can't afford the near $400 to have it inserted. But, I'm going to ask my doctor the pros and cons of just taking the pill perpetually. My insurance covers birth control pills. I just need to find out how much they are not covered. I have a pharmacy deductible of $250, so I have to cover the pills myself until I've paid that. But, if it's like the prozac I took, it would cost me less to just pay for them on my own than with my insurance.

free
January 30th, 2009, 03:10 PM
ancientgirl in canada there is a generic form of one of the birth controls that with dispensing fees works out to around 15..00 a month. you should see if they have it in the states.

ancientgirl
January 30th, 2009, 03:15 PM
ancientgirl in canada there is a generic form of one of the birth controls that with dispensing fees works out to around 15..00 a month. you should see if they have it in the states.

That's not bad. I can do $15 a month. Well it would be $30, since I'd have to get a new pack right as the real pills finish to keep from getting my period. I'll have to find out from my GYN if whatever she gives me (if she does give me something) will have a generic.

chico2
January 30th, 2009, 04:11 PM
Bearsmom,our family-doc had about the same attitude as yours..
When my hubby decided to have a vasectomy,because he figured having had 3 kids,I'd more than done my part:thumbs up
My husband being only 34 at the time,our doc was completely against it,but he was ok,with me taking everything out with a hysterectomy.
I was healthy,only could not take the pill,but he still insisted Hysterectomy was no big deal,well,it was to me and in the end hubby went for his snip.
I know,in Sweden,a hystorectomy would never be given just like that,you have to have a very good reason.
Bearsmom,I think you had a very good reason to have it done and I am glad you are ok

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Bearsmom
January 30th, 2009, 07:17 PM
Aw, thanks Chico. I finally feel as though I can live my life again without being held hostage by this medical issue.

I too, (of course, being QUITE the non-traditional female) was quite surprised at the dr's question of my husband's opinion, especially in this day and age.

My response aside from the other one I said, was "I'm sure my husband would like his wife back".

I think In this day and age, we should be in charge of our own bodies and make our own medical decisions, NOT based on what our s/o s think, ya know?

Bearsmom
January 30th, 2009, 07:23 PM
AND what bothered me the most about it was I had my tubes tied while they did a c section for our ds, so it's NOT like I was going to be poppin' out any more kids!