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Opinions! - 'freecycle' on pets.ca

JennieV
January 7th, 2009, 08:45 PM
I had a :lightbulb: : that maybe people on pets.ca would benefit from having sort of a message board, where they can offer items they don't need or want and be able to sell for a nominal amount or give away to those who want them.
Items could be pet or non-pet related, the poster will just have to specify that in the name of the thread. Also, would be good to post "WANTED" items, since people may not realize that someone else wants or needs certain items until they see a post about it.:D
I would greatly appreciate if you could post your thoughts about the idea and any other suggestions related to this. :)

So far, the following suggestions have been mentioned :thankyou::
1. Only regular members would be able to post, since we do NOT want a flood of random people coming in just for that and creating a chaos.
2. ABSOLUTELY NO ANIMALS TO BE SOLD OR GIVEN! Only items allowed!


So I am asking for your :2cents:! :p

Thank you in advance, everyone! :grouphug:

Diamondsmum
January 7th, 2009, 09:11 PM
jennie I am in total agreeance on this.

I have one for the forum where I am an admin on & it works great plus gives a chance to meet members from your area. :thumbs up

the gang
January 7th, 2009, 09:31 PM
thats a super idea:lightbulb:, brenda and the pins..

Masha
January 7th, 2009, 09:32 PM
I think this is a great idea!

14+kitties
January 7th, 2009, 09:41 PM
Great idea. Only problem I can see is....... what constitutes a "regular" member? Would there be a cut off, certain number of threads before you could contribute/be a part of the message board? Like, you have to have at least 100 posts and be an active member; as in you have posted something in the last week? Or you have to have so many posts a week in order to be considered a regular? That to me is something that I see may cause problems. We have a lot of "regular" members that come in and lurk without signing in. They don't post all the time but they are here a lot. LOL Obviously I can be left out of that. :rolleyes:

Diamondsmum
January 7th, 2009, 09:47 PM
14+ I think jennie means have a cetain amount of posts. not a new member just like the pictures or pming someone. (You need to have a certain number to be able to PM)

luckypenny
January 7th, 2009, 11:29 PM
Personally, I like the 'Freecycle' approach :o.

I guess it would be a good idea if it was pet supplies such as training books, collars, Haltis, crates, etc. I don't know about other household stuff...there are so many online buy/sell sites as it is :shrug:. Perhaps if we made it pet specific so it would be keeping in line with this site?

Bu then we might get members who'll only post the minimum in order to self-promote :shrug:?

rainbow
January 7th, 2009, 11:39 PM
I agree and think it should only be pet related items and only open to members of pets.ca .....it would end up like Kijiji otherwise. :rolleyes:

marko
January 8th, 2009, 08:37 AM
HMMM an interesting idea, but how do we differentiate between the odd collar or 2 and someone buying a pile of stuff on ebay and trying to sell it?

Thx
Marko

Mat&Murph
January 8th, 2009, 08:42 AM
I think it might be worth a try. But I agree there would have to be a limited number of posts for a member to post a wanted or giveaway ad.

JennieV
January 8th, 2009, 09:19 AM
Well, I think if someone would try to sell a bunch of stuff ebay-style we would notice that, no? I guess that would be dealt with along the lines of flooding or trolling...That can all be outlined in the rules of the forum.

What I was suggesting was also along the lines of freecycle (thanks LP! I forgot what that was called! LOL) more than sales, however, if for example I want to give my 30 gal aquarium, fully loaded etc - thats quite an expensive item, and I thought it would be nice to be able to sell it for nomnal amount, so someone who is interested, would get it...say for $50, rather than $300? That sort of selling.

I don't know how we would limit the access for people, but I think it should definitely be an active member with no less than 80-100 posts. Or someone who has been with pets.ca for a very long time and signs in regularly, I dunno, but I think its worth looking into. this way, junior members with like 10 posts won't be able to post, but should be able to pm? :confused:

The reason I originally thought of this is because I have a bunch of items that are of not much use to me, but someone could benefit from them greatly, and I thought I would have preferred giving it to someone I "know" from pets.ca, rather than some random dude on kijiji or ebay or whatever. :shrug: JMO

Diamondsmum
January 8th, 2009, 09:31 AM
what about A donation to somewhere eg OSPCA or rescue of your choosing in lieu of said "payment"?

For example Jennie that aquarium (eg) list it & as the amount a Donation to a rescue which you list in lieu of $$? say a minimum of 50$

(My sis did a donation type for her wedding) instead of presents. Both got a receipt kinda acknowledging that a donation was made.

Stacer
January 8th, 2009, 09:55 AM
I think it's a good idea as well. I have many items that I've bought, especially for Skylar, that either never get used or seemed like a good idea and didn't work out (various harnesses etc...).

JennieV
January 8th, 2009, 10:22 AM
I think it's a good idea as well. I have many items that I've bought, especially for Skylar, that either never get used or seemed like a good idea and didn't work out (various harnesses etc...).

Thats EXACTLY why I thought of this..

mastifflover
January 9th, 2009, 03:49 PM
I think we should give it a try. Most definitely members only and with a history of posting not just able to sign up to post

marko
January 11th, 2009, 10:06 AM
A lot of good points here - Let me discuss this with the other Admin, Dave and I'll get back to y'all tomorrow on this one.

Thx as always!
M

Khari
January 11th, 2009, 10:34 AM
I think this is a GREAT idea. I would lean more towards the freecycle approach. This way instead of the unused products ending up in the landfill they are being "Recycled". This way people that can not afford much for their pets will have the oppurtunity to get them more :D I am for pet products only but would also like ALL products available. I definately would like to recommend the NO PETS FOR SALE or NO PETS FOR FREE posts policy as mentioned above....I am looking forward to see this going ahead :thumbs up

marko
January 12th, 2009, 02:28 PM
This looks to be like a good idea all around. How about taking the freecycle approach with the following rules

1 - No pets of any kind can be listed
2 - Members need 50+ posts to post
3 - All items should be free
4- At first I was thinking only pet items, but if it's free...any item?

what do y'all think about these preliminary guidelines?

many thanks to JennieV for the suggestion:highfive:

(NB - I've re-opened the poll for another 10 days)

marko

breeze
January 12th, 2009, 03:10 PM
can I ask about postage/shipping?? if the person does not live near the person giving something for free..

marko
January 12th, 2009, 03:17 PM
Seems fair that the 'getter' pays for shipping....

breeze
January 12th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Seems fair that the 'getter' pays for shipping....


:thumbs up:thumbs up

and the details will be worked out with the "sender" and the "getter"

bendyfoot
January 12th, 2009, 03:23 PM
I'm liking it!!!

Stacer
January 12th, 2009, 03:37 PM
definitely sounds good!

Mat&Murph
January 12th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Sounds great!!!

Diamondsmum
January 12th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Yup i agree :)

Sounds like a plan marko :) Great job JennieV

Melanie1010
January 12th, 2009, 04:12 PM
I think this is an awesome idea!! I have ads up right now looking for a crate for Nitro and you should see the replies I am getting :wall::wall:... I clearly posted the dimensions and that it needs to be a wire crate and I am getting replies for leashes, collars, beds, airline crates.. OYE!

It be great to have a place were you can post things you need/looking to give to someone who can use them!! (and actually know what you are getting/sending to them!)

Great Idea All Around!!! :thumbs up

Melinda
January 12th, 2009, 04:17 PM
we actually had that on another forum and it worked great!! and yes Marko, you're right in saying it only seems fair that the "getter" paid shipping, we had it that way.

luckypenny
January 12th, 2009, 05:21 PM
It's pretty simple to calculate shipping. Just measure dimensions and weigh item, go to http://www.canadapost.ca/personal/tools/cst/intro-e.asp (for those senders living in Canada), and get shipping quotes.

I love the Freecycle approach :thumbs up. Maybe I'll get rid of some of these unpacked boxes after all :rolleyes:.

rainbow
January 12th, 2009, 07:20 PM
It sounds like it's going to work. :thumbs up

mummummum
January 12th, 2009, 07:26 PM
I agree with the Freecycle approach (tangible items that are free) with participation open to Members with a certain number posts (100?). I'm also thinking that a "Wanted to borrow" category allowance might be of interest. For instance, I have seat belts. As we drive only a few times a year, they sit idle the rest of the time. Another member might welcome an opportunity to "test-drive" :rolleyes: different models of seat belts before making a purchase.

One thing to keep in mind though is that in allowing any used goods to be posted there is the potential of liability for pets.ca and the member posting the item. This will require global "CYA" disclaimers to be written by legal-beagles and that will require $.

Diamondsmum
January 12th, 2009, 08:02 PM
ummm our disclamior is a sticky..on the website I manage

I think a pets.ca has no respnosibly for the items that are listed/bought on the forum. Shipping is at the receivers expense.

we hold no accountablity for this part of the forum. (unless spammed)

No member shall contact admin/mods for such items that are not the recievers expectations. or something to that

(I think you can make a disclaimer before posting in a certain part of the forum?)

with a I agree that you tick?

marko
January 13th, 2009, 10:50 AM
OK then this is a done deal and will be set up this week.

What should we title this new forum? Would we be allowed to use the term 'Freecycle' or can we come up with a synonym?

thx for all the input thus far!
Marko

bendyfoot
January 13th, 2009, 10:59 AM
"Free Stuff is Good Stuff - pets.ca's freecycling forum":D

I don't think you can use "FreeCycle", it's TM'd but freecycling seems to be a widely-used slang we could get away with

Diamondsmum
January 13th, 2009, 12:14 PM
i like it bendy :)

onster
January 13th, 2009, 12:17 PM
:thumbs up:thumbs up great idea..looking forward to it!

bendyfoot
January 13th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Marko, to keep the posts clear/easy to use, you could adopt some freecycle guidelines about the format:

-New thread titles should follow this format:

1. "WANTED:" or "OFFER:"
2. brief description of the item
3. location of the item - maybe just the province, since shipping will probably come into play in a lot of cases...people can pm each other with mailing addresses etc.

So, an example would be "WANTED: skijoring harness for 50 lb dog (Ontario)"
or
"OFFER: naughty smooshy-faced mugsly puppy (Ontario)"
(oh wait, that would be a violation of the "no animals" rule. :laughing:

Would people reply to the post? Or would they PM the person? Or would we have the option of either?

When the item is taken/found, there should be some indication on the thread...maybe we could simply close the thread to avoid confusion?

breeze
January 13th, 2009, 01:39 PM
what about adding a picture of the item??

or the poster puts a "SOLD" in the reply box

bendyfoot
January 13th, 2009, 01:47 PM
I personally would love a pic, but what if people have dial-up? Maybe people could request pics??? :shrug:

breeze
January 13th, 2009, 01:49 PM
I personally would love a pic, but what if people have dial-up? Maybe people could request pics??? :shrug:

or they could put it in their profile. this way for dial-upers they can see the picture.. non??

JennieV
January 13th, 2009, 05:32 PM
OMG! I have been away from here for a few days and I come back and OMG! :laughing: :D:D:D I am soooo happy! This is just awesome! can you tell I am excited about it?

I had an experience on a bridal website, where brides posted their stuff for sale, thus recycling the wedding stuff (and recouping some pennies here and there) the idea was that you would be able to add a pic or two, but if more details were necessary - the interested person would take it up with the person giving the item. That can be first done via PMs, then taken to a more personal level of emails or phone calls etc...whatever the people involved are comfortable with.

I think pets.ca should put a clear disclaimer, that it carries no responsibility and "use at your won risk" type of message. All we really need is a place to post, which is provided, they do not need to be involved or held accountable.
After all, this is not Ebay!

Also, regarding sold or pending items, the poster of the message should be responsible to indicate to members if an adoption of their item is pending or went through, then the admins could just delete completed transactions, or archive them or whatever...So the message title would read for example:
"OFFER: A leash - PENDING" then, after the transaction completed "OFFER: A leash - ADOPTED!"

I am sooooooooo glad this is working out!!!!! :cloud9:

Diamondsmum
January 13th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Personally, what we do is leave it open for a 1week period after item is Sold then its locked (members may use it as a THANKS for said item)

just a suggestion

marko
January 14th, 2009, 09:33 AM
Thanks for all these ideas everyone! Please keep them coming. I should be able to set this up tomorrow.

Thx:highfive:
Marko

marko
January 15th, 2009, 12:09 PM
I am setting this up now -

QUESTION - Only members with 50+ posts will be able to post new threads but I think it makes sense for members that have a few posts and have been around for a few days with less than 50 posts (but NOT total newbies - read possible spammers) to reply to offers.

OR can only members with 50+posts reply to offers?

What do you think?

Thx
Marko

Chris21711
January 15th, 2009, 12:25 PM
I am setting this up now -

QUESTION - Only members with 50+ posts will be able to post new threads but I think it makes sense for members that have a few posts and have been around for a few days with less than 50 posts (but NOT total newbies - read possible spammers) to reply to offers.

OR can only members with 50+posts reply to offers?

What do you think?

Thx
Marko

Maybe a minimum of 10 posts would be fitting, I think that that should be long enough to weed out spammers :)

Diamondsmum
January 15th, 2009, 12:27 PM
marko.. I think yes they can browse/reply with less then 50 posts. but not start a new thread. (The only issue is I can see is possibly hijacking the thread?to recycle there wares)

Diamondsmum
January 15th, 2009, 12:27 PM
10 sounds good Chris :)

Spatx
January 15th, 2009, 12:53 PM
I love it, can't wait for it to be finished and started! :thumbs up I have some pet supplies that I can't really use, can't sell, so a free-cycle is perfect!

marko
January 15th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Okay everyone the freecycling forum is live here: :highfive:
http://www.pets.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=77

Thanks so much for all the input!!

As with all new forums, there may be comments, suggestions, issues, glitches etc. Please report them all here in this thread. I'll be following this thread closely over the next few days.

Thanks everyone!
Marko

bendyfoot
January 15th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Yay, it's great! :D And in use already! :D And you liked my name suggestion!!!:D

JennieV
January 15th, 2009, 06:09 PM
WOOOOOHOOOO!!!! :cool:

Now...I have to get cleaning and collecting my stuff to post..! :thumbs up:thumbs up

Mat&Murph
January 17th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Yahhhhh!!! Thanks Marko!!!! You too JennieV for posting the idea!!!!