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The President's Kids want a Westie...I am so SAD!!!

Corrie
November 19th, 2008, 01:11 PM
I just read the new People magazine yesterday and saw that the new US President has promised to get his children a dog when they get settled…and the kids choice is a Westie that they want to call, Snowball!!!

Who can I write to in order to BEG these folks not to!!!

As some of you know, I am with Westie Rescue of Canada and we get so many Westies in because someone saw that STUPID Ceasar’s commercial and they want a Maggie!!! Then cute Maggie turns into a terrier…and out she/he goes! If these folks get a Westie, the rescues in the US will be inundated with Westies…and the puppy millers will breed Westies like they are going out of style!

I would love them to go to the Humane Society and get a “mutt”…and then when the press says “What kind of a dog is it” they reply “A sweet one!” and not say that it is a such and such cross or what ever, because as sure as shoot, the puppy millers will run with that as well and start breeding the cross like gangbusters!

In the People magazine it also said that Mrs. Obama wore a certain dress when she appeared on the View and then the dress sold out in 10 minutes…so if folks follow her on her choice of dress…a dog is not far behind!

I am SAD!!!

jiorji
November 19th, 2008, 01:19 PM
........they ARE going to the shelter to get their dog....that what i read. I also read they want a goldendoodle. And Obama said that they want a mutt from the shelter like himself...that was the quote lol

i wouldn't read into everything the media says you know ;)

NoahGrey
November 19th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Yes, they might become a little bit more popular but any breed of dog that they choose would have had the same effect. Is it because it is a Westie or do you feel the same way about any breed that enters the White House.

I am just curious, if they will get the dog at a Humane Society or a breeder. I am assuming they will get the dog through a shelter.

ACO22

BenMax
November 19th, 2008, 01:22 PM
There will always be a 'pet of the year'. I hope they do go to a rescue or shelter - this will make a huge inpact I hope.

Anyways, my main concern or question would be if they are suitable to have a dog, and if they are then so be it.

hazelrunpack
November 19th, 2008, 01:23 PM
Obama said they were considering getting a shelter dog but that they wanted a dog that was hypoallergenic. :rolleyes: I saw the interview. Haven't heard what, if anything, they have decided on, yet.

If you want to try to get through, Corrie, check to see if any of the campaigning websites are still up. Maybe you can get an email through to someone that way? Good luck! :goodvibes:

NoahGrey
November 19th, 2008, 01:24 PM
Actually of course they are going to get it through a sheler. Even if they wanted to get it from a breeder, for public image, they will get it from a shelter. And yes, I would have voted for Mr. Obama.

ACO22

BenMax
November 19th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Hazel you have something here....

Why doesn't the rescue reach out to them? This would be great publicity for the rescue and for them as well.:lightbulb:

NoahGrey
November 19th, 2008, 01:27 PM
Hazel you have something here....

Why doesn't the rescue reach out to them? This would be great publicity for the rescue and for them as well.:lightbulb:

That is a good idea.

ACO22

kathryn
November 19th, 2008, 01:27 PM
Wow, and you actually listened to what People magazine had to say?

Their daughter is allergic to dogs, they should just get a cat instead in my opinion.

BenMax
November 19th, 2008, 01:39 PM
Well I have a solution then Kathryn: 'foster with intent to adopt'! Whether that be cat or dog...I am certain that any rescue would consider this.

Oh my wheels are just turning now - wish I was a rescue in the US to jump onto this!

AmericanBullMom
November 19th, 2008, 02:46 PM
From what I read they ARE adopting. They want a westie because one fo the daughters is allergic to dogs. They were also looking into a GoldenDoodle

babymomma
November 19th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Why should he not be able to get a dog? He has just as much right to one as any of us do.. Its unfair to assume he shouldnt get a dog becauyse bybs and millers are stupid.. I bet if the article said he was going to a get a german shepherd you wouldnt have cared half as much that BYBs and millers were going to start breedng morre of them.

Corrie
November 19th, 2008, 06:50 PM
AC022…because I am with Westie Rescue, it is personally a Westie that I am so worried about, however (as I mentioned in my post) whatever breed they do get (pure or mixed) I am hoping the puppy millers don’t go full force with that breeding!

BabyMama..you are quite wrong! I LOVE German Sheppards, they are great dogs and I would have been concerned no matter what dog was mentioned.

Also, because I am with Westie Rescue and I saw the picture of the Westie in the People magazine I thought “Oh no..not again” only because we have so many problems here is Canada with Westies because of that Ceasar’s commercial (I am not sure it is in the US??) but I would be VERY sorry for any breed that becomes the “breed of the month” because it is such a problem for rescues!!! Anyone remember that 101 Dalmations movie!!!

BabyMama, I am not sure if you have ever worked in Rescue but I can tell you from experience that when you drive for hours to pick up a Westie who was purchased because the family liked the “Maggie Commercial” to find a dog who has been forced to live in a cage in the garage for the last 4 months cause the “novelty” has worn off, it really start to get to you!!!

Karin
November 19th, 2008, 07:19 PM
It doesn't matter what breed they get because whatever they do decide on....there will be a mass breeding frenzy to supply the demand and ample sleezy byb's and mills to capitalize on the money to be had. We all know byb's and mills equal greed.
Just about every pure breed has it's quirks, Westie's are the "poster child" for addison's disease.
Look what happened with the Taco Bell commercials and the Chihuahuas.
The movie "Omen" brought a frenzy of Rotti breeders and gave them a bad name associating them with evil but they still sold. Greed.
If they adopt a mix breed.....holy cow, the spay/neuter programs will close and every weekend you will see children peddling puppies in front of every grocery store.
If they got a Parakeet....
The kids have not had a pet, they will be a busy family so my answer is the same as another recent post. TOYS R US. Get a stuffed animal, Christmas is coming and with the economy the way it is I am sure they could deal with that kind of shopping frenzy.
Fad's sell.

Love4himies
November 19th, 2008, 07:49 PM
I agree if they get a dog, then there will be a run on those breeds of dogs. Wonder why they waited until now to get a dog?

Karin
November 19th, 2008, 08:38 PM
I agree if they get a dog, then there will be a run on those breeds of dogs. Wonder why they waited until now to get a dog?

Because it is cute and endearing, and it sells the family.

Toys R Us!

History lesson....does anyone know what made the teddy bear so popular?

mafiaprincess
November 19th, 2008, 11:29 PM
I agree if they get a dog, then there will be a run on those breeds of dogs. Wonder why they waited until now to get a dog?

Apparently they've talked about it for a while and have agreed to wait until they are settled after their move. Seems they are trying to be responsible.

CClover
November 20th, 2008, 12:13 AM
http://www.obamafamilydog.com/

flipgirl4
November 20th, 2008, 12:35 AM
I understand why there is a concern about which dog the Obama family gets and how it will influence the public. And hopefully they do opt to adopt a shelter dog. From what I've read, it does seem that they want to do that but they have to consider their daughter's allergies. I'm not sure getting a cat would be the answer as a cat's dander gets spread all over them when they lick themselves. So why can't we just praise their intentions and realize that their choice isn't solely because of a commercial but out of concern for their daughter's?

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 10:25 AM
AC022…because I am with Westie Rescue, it is personally a Westie that I am so worried about, however (as I mentioned in my post) whatever breed they do get (pure or mixed) I am hoping the puppy millers don’t go full force with that breeding!

BabyMama..you are quite wrong! I LOVE German Sheppards, they are great dogs and I would have been concerned no matter what dog was mentioned.

Also, because I am with Westie Rescue and I saw the picture of the Westie in the People magazine I thought “Oh no..not again” only because we have so many problems here is Canada with Westies because of that Ceasar’s commercial (I am not sure it is in the US??) but I would be VERY sorry for any breed that becomes the “breed of the month” because it is such a problem for rescues!!! Anyone remember that 101 Dalmations movie!!!

BabyMama, I am not sure if you have ever worked in Rescue but I can tell you from experience that when you drive for hours to pick up a Westie who was purchased because the family liked the “Maggie Commercial” to find a dog who has been forced to live in a cage in the garage for the last 4 months cause the “novelty” has worn off, it really start to get to you!!!

I hear you Corrie. I have been through this as well after the 101 dalmations just months after the movie aired....the shelter ended up euthanizing more than they adopted....and those dogs still came in years after.

We are now seeing this happen with 'fashion breeds' such as the GoldenDoodle, labradoodle what next??

In saying this however, there is no way to stop this from happening until the darn governments get rid of these puppymills and petstores stopping the sale of animals once and for all.

If they do get a dog then I do hope it is from a shelter or rescue. It would have been better in my opinion that they had a dog prior or did not make an annoucement that they were getting one. L4H brings up a very good point!

Love4himies
November 20th, 2008, 10:28 AM
Because it is cute and endearing, and it sells the family.

Toys R Us!

History lesson....does anyone know what made the teddy bear so popular?

No, could you share it with us?

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 10:40 AM
I believe the Teddy Bear started here in Canada by a member of the military if my memory serves me correctly. There was a young cub that was chained and a soldier named him Teddy. I am not sure about this but I think the bear was a mascot....

ScottieDog
November 20th, 2008, 10:58 AM
OK, I have a soft spot in my heart for Westies. I am surprised the family would consider this breed. I know that certain terriers are low-shed, but I would still think allergies could be an issue. I can hope that the Westie won't be viewed as the "dog of the month", but I am afraid that what ever type of dog the Obama family selects will be so forced down the public's throat that many little kids in America will want the dog the first daughters have.

The Bush family has two Scotties, but it hasn't seemed like everyone wants a Scottie. In my area it is very uncommon to see a Scottie. In nearly 14 years, I've only seen 5-6 other Scotties--and trust me, I am looking for these. But the Bushes are not a popular family, therefore, the dogs haven't caught on as much. Which is good, since Scotties can be quite nasty. Now, the Westie. You have to admit they are absolutely adorable dogs with their shiny eyes, black button nose, immaculate white coat. And I'm sure that this is how every dog Corrie picks up looks like--right?:wall:

The Obama family is new, and appeals to the American public. Regardless of politics, they are a young and attractive family. This appeals to my country. The things they do will be mimicked by the public. If people are already copying Michelle's clothes and hair--why not the dog. And that is sad. I'm really hoping they don't fall for the "golden-doodle" idea either. This will be detrimental to the golden and poodle for decades. These mixed mutts are all over the place now. I can't imagine what will happen if the President's family picks one of these. I really hope they pick a Heinz-57 that is the true mutt and a one-of-a-kind.

And Corrie, thanks for all the work you do with Westies. I'm sure you don't hear that often enough.

Oh, and about the Teddy Bear....Apparently Theodore Roosevelt was a huge hunter. On a hunting trip a bear cub was tied to a tree and Roosevelt told to shoot it. Roosevelt said it was unsportsmanly and refused. Although he didn't shoot the bear, he did ask that it be destroyed and put out of its misery.:cry: There were political cartoons made about this. A stuffed toy was fashioned and the bear became "Teddy's Bear". Children fell in love with the toy. So the bear was named for U.S. Pres. T. Roosevelt.

Check this link for the history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_bear

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the Teddy Bear story ...I am going to find out some more.

And indeed I hope they don't get the golden-whatever! They are already coming into rescues and many with 'problems'!

babymomma
November 20th, 2008, 12:06 PM
BUt the ponit is this. They have a right to get a dog. Simple as that. Its not the families fault that people are nieve(sp?) ... Maybe, since they are probably going to get a rescue dog, more people would be inclined to get a shelter dog then a Mill dog or whatever... They want a dog, and they should have one. Why should they have to pay just because puppy millers and bybs are stupid and some people are nieve? Just my :2cents:

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 12:18 PM
BUt the ponit is this. They have a right to get a dog. Simple as that. Its not the families fault that people are nieve(sp?) ... Maybe, since they are probably going to get a rescue dog, more people would be inclined to get a shelter dog then a Mill dog or whatever... They want a dog, and they should have one. Why should they have to pay just because puppy millers and bybs are stupid and some people are nieve? Just my :2cents:

Babymomma - no one is disputing this. There are just some concerns - that's all. Rescues and shelters get the 'most popular last year dog' and most are destroyed.

But Babymomma the question should really be: Why are they deciding this now and why are they making it public?

Absolutely they are entitled to get a dog....so when I get a dog I will be sure to get a hold of the media to advertise right???

babymomma
November 20th, 2008, 12:20 PM
I think they should get a dog, that it is impossible to tell what breed it is, and just leave it at that...A One of a kind dog that will be impossible for peopl;e to try to breed it. Im hoping that if they decide to adopt, that more people will be looking at a shelter dog then getting one from a breeder/miller/BYB

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 12:21 PM
I think they should get a dog, that it is impossible to tell what breed it is, and just leave it at that.. One of a kind dog. Im hoping that if they decide to adopt, that more people will be looking at a shelter dog then getting one from a breeder/miller/BYB

I am with you Babymomma - but..but..but.. ok never mind.

Lise
November 20th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Teddy bear came from Teddy Roosevelt,an American president who was also very into hunting.He once refused to shoot a bear cub with it's mother.Press decided very cute and a toymaker came out with Teddy bears.As far as breeds becoming popular I've had my beardie and my collie and my cairn for many years.Lassie,Toto and the Shaggy dog there not.Breed fads develop for so many reasons the only thing people in rescue can do is try to educate people before they get a new puppy or help clean up after the stupid fad ends.

luckypenny
November 20th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Even "rescued" dogs can become a fad. I can't tell you the number of times I hear ppl brag they "rescued" a dog from a shelter, from a neighbor, from a byb, from the internet :rolleyes: etc. and still many don't know enough to have the dogs s/n nor the amount of time and energy a dog needs. Many of them give up the dogs because they weren't properly self-informed :frustrated:. So no, just because someone wants a dog, doesn't mean they should have one :2cents:.

I agree Benmax, why make it so public? Because the story sells?

I just hope the family knows what it entails to be responsible dog owners. That would be a good story!

Karin
November 20th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Oh, and about the Teddy Bear....Apparently Theodore Roosevelt was a huge hunter. On a hunting trip a bear cub was tied to a tree and Roosevelt told to shoot it. Roosevelt said it was unsportsmanly and refused. Although he didn't shoot the bear, he did ask that it be destroyed and put out of its misery.:cry: There were political cartoons made about this. A stuffed toy was fashioned and the bear became "Teddy's Bear". Children fell in love with the toy. So the bear was named for U.S. Pres. T. Roosevelt.

Check this link for the history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_bear

DING! DING DING! We have a winner!


P.S. I see many a Scottie here in Florida. My best friend has one, "Duncan", which grew up with my dog. (After we neutered him, I re-named him "Duncan No Nuts"

Longblades
November 20th, 2008, 01:47 PM
I believe the Teddy Bear started here in Canada by a member of the military if my memory serves me correctly. There was a young cub that was chained and a soldier named him Teddy. I am not sure about this but I think the bear was a mascot...That was Winnie the Pooh. The bear was named Winnipeg, shortened to Winnie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_the_Pooh

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 02:06 PM
That was Winnie the Pooh. The bear was named Winnipeg, shortened to Winnie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_the_Pooh

Ok - thank DOG...I thought I lost it! Thanks LB!

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 02:07 PM
DING! DING DING! We have a winner!


P.S. I see many a Scottie here in Florida. My best friend has one, "Duncan", which grew up with my dog. (After we neutered him, I re-named him "Duncan No Nuts"

:laughing::laughing::laughing:...good one!:laughing:

NoahGrey
November 20th, 2008, 02:19 PM
Actually of course they are going to get it through a sheler. Even if they wanted to get it from a breeder, for public image, they will get it from a shelter. And yes, I would have voted for Mr. Obama.

ACO22

I rest my case. As I said above in a previous post, Seems like I am not the only one who feels this way.

ACO22

Jim Hall
November 20th, 2008, 02:41 PM
i think they should get 50 dogs one for each state all from the pound all mutts maybe couple of kits too

Karin
November 20th, 2008, 03:05 PM
Ok, I did not vote for Obama, but as an American I stand behind ANY President elected into office, it is the right thing to do. And as far as discussing politics on this board, this is as far as it will go with me. Marko can tell what happens when I get involved with that type of discussion!

So, maybe on the good side. If the Obama family get's their White House pet from a shelter or rescues one, no matter the breed, there will be much media hype AND we all know a frenzy will occur, so just maybe these homeless pets will get their just rewards. Would this not bring awareness to the plight we all fight for here?

Oprah did two shows on byb's and puppy mills and was so moved she said she will no longer "buy" a pet, she will rescue instead. And she recently lost 14 year old Solomon just a few months after losing Sophie. I heard she is going to adopt when she feels the time is right.
People in the news can govern the market so much just by what they do, wear , drive or buy.
I am going to take the positive attitude road with this one. Unless they buy their pet, then it's the "here we go again" attitude.

BenMax
November 20th, 2008, 03:25 PM
Karin this is not about politics so I think you are pretty safe. It is about the 'frenzy' as you put it. I understand the posters concern. I get it.

If he does decide to adopt - then indeed it is sending a better message than if we find out that he bought from a petshop...that's a given.

Karin
November 20th, 2008, 03:57 PM
If he does decide to adopt - then indeed it is sending a better message than if we find out that he bought from a petshop...that's a given.

Let's all hope there will be an adoption, this would be wonderful for all who fight for the ones who do not have a voice. And for those without a voice that wakes up in a cage or pen every morning instead of the foot of the bed all warm and cozy, and loved.
I love them all but I think we all have our preferences and that is allowed.
I doubt there will be a pet shop or breeder involved and I so hope that is not the avenue the pet hunting mission takes. That would only be a strike against all who have fought the milling problem.
Mills and byb's are like cockroaches and vermin, they out number people like us and survive on barely nothing.
We need a tilt in the opposite direction, an edge to fight for the forgotten ones. This may prove to be the bite that rocks and upsets those cockroaches and vermin's that call themselves "breeders".

I do not know but would like to, where did "Buddy" come from? The chocolate lab given to Clinton that was hit by a car, if any one can inform me I would appreciate this info.

joeysmama
November 21st, 2008, 05:13 PM
I think that the reason they did not get a dog before this is because they wanted to be responsible and not adopt a pet during the hectic days of the campaign. They're waiting until they've moved so that it's less disruptive.

True, it will be cute and will sharpen their image as the wholesome American family. Nothing wrong with that !!

From what I've seen and read it seems that they would prefer to adopt a mixxed breed from a shelter but may need to get a purebred so that they know exactly what they're getting. One of the Obama girls has allergies so they want to choose carefully.

faranya
November 22nd, 2008, 03:24 PM
As far as I can recall, almost every First Family has owned at least one pet and sometimes more. I don't remember a "pet fad" resulting from any of the White House animals. These two girls are going to be under enough pressure as it is. The normalcy of having a puppy - like any other family in North America - is something they deserve. The animal will receive the very best of care and attention. It will be well-loved, I'm sure.

Long as a pet owner is responsible, kind and caring, then I'm not going to criticize or question him or her as to where that pet came from. I don't feel it is my business. I have rescue pets myself, but that's my own choice. I don't want to start making assumptions about the Presidential puppy-hunting, because I've learned it's dangerous to assume anything. I bought a local pet-store puppy some years ago, and totally enjoyed having him. I'd be very upset if someone took offence to my having done that. The bottom line is to get the "right" animal and treat it well.

If I were a breeder, and the President of the United States happened to choose "my" particular breed for his family ... I'd be thrilled! What better way to promote the breed and its good qualities than to have it selected by someone like Barack Obama? I think this would be a wonderful home for any lucky pet.

Etown_Chick
November 23rd, 2008, 02:08 AM
People and their non-allergenic dogs! GAH good luck to them.
I spent two years trying to find a 'less allergenic' dog at the shelter. SUre they will have their pick of the dogs available but if those girls don't have patience I bet they will end up getting one from a breeder.