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So what do you say to a CAT EATER

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 11:29 AM
I am standing in line at lunch and a co-worker comes back from a business trip in China and tells everyone how he ate a white fluffy cat. He has before and after pictures......

I LOST IT! I really don't even know what I said - but I am blue in the face right now.

What do you say to a cat eater...??? There is no icon that expresses how I feel right now.

Love4himies
October 14th, 2008, 11:32 AM
:eek::mad::evil::sad: And he was proud of it?

Diamondsmum
October 14th, 2008, 11:32 AM
:sad::eek::cry::pray:

I feel the same.. no words..

krdahmer
October 14th, 2008, 11:32 AM
What do you say? More like here ya go jerkass meet my fist!!!!! :yell: :mad:

I understand that other cultures don't revere certain animals the way we do here.... but seriously to actually brag about something like that here in this country is just asking to get your teeth knocked out! :loser:

Frenchy
October 14th, 2008, 11:32 AM
What do you say to a cat eater...???

You just say that you know people who eat testicules and cut his :D

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 11:34 AM
I am sick to my stomach right now. How the heck can anyone do this for one and then brag about it. Trust me, there is very little left of this idiot right now but I will definately hear about my outburst no doubt.

I really am at a loss right now - I don't GET IT!

ashtoreth
October 14th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Now, not saying I could eat cat, or dog...ever, hell I can't even eat horses... and its a pretty popular meat...I tried really, but yea, the taste isn't worth all the guilt I felt :P but its a personal choice

however, different cultures = different meat. You wont see anyone eat beef in some part of India, yet here people eat steaks and hamburgers like there's no tomorrow

Now, the coworker is a ^$#^%*&$# idiot who has absolutely no class to brag about it in a country that sees cat meat as inappropriate.

my :2cents:

krdahmer
October 14th, 2008, 11:46 AM
And the photo evidence if shown to co-workers could be enough to get this person fired as well. Offensive materials are a form of harassment.

From the Canadian Human Rights Commission website:

Harassment is a type of discrimination. It can take many forms, such as:

threats, intimidation, or verbal abuse;
unwelcome remarks or jokes about subjects like your race, religion, disability or age;
displaying sexist, racist or other offensive pictures or posters;
sexually suggestive remarks or gestures;
unnecessary physical contact, such as touching, patting, pinching or punching;
physical assault, including sexual assault.

Seeing as animal abuse is against the law here, it would be considered offensive material. And he is making your workplace a negative or hostile work environment which can interfere with your job performance.

Before you get reprimanded for your outburst I would go to management or supervisor of some sort and make a harassment complaint. CYA! It was wholey inappropriate for that to be talked about at your workplace and any idiot would know it would offend someone, and that was no doubt his intention to begin with.

rainbow
October 14th, 2008, 11:51 AM
Holy crap. :eek:

Is your co-worker Chinese or Canadian? I wish I had have been there with you as I would have tore a piece off him as well. :mad:

ashtoreth
October 14th, 2008, 11:52 AM
krdahmer - the problem with that, is that it depends how "international" is the work place, if it deals with a lot of overseas business, and that the idiotic coworker is from a place where its ok to eat kitties... it might not be seen as harassement by -some-

but yea, Benmax you should definitely complain

happycats
October 14th, 2008, 11:56 AM
And the photo evidence if shown to co-workers could be enough to get this person fired as well. Offensive materials are a form of harassment.

From the Canadian Human Rights Commission website:



Seeing as animal abuse is against the law here, it would be considered offensive material. And he is making your workplace

Before you get reprimanded for your outburst I would go to management or supervisor of some sort and make a harassment complaint. CYA! It was wholey inappropriate for that to be talked about at your workplace and any idiot would know it would offend someone, and that was no doubt his intention to begin with.


Yeah, report him and get his cat eating A$$ fired!!

He obviously knows it wrong, and was trying to shock people, if not, then why doesnt he have before and after pics of the veggies or pork he ate!!

It is harrassment, and should be reported!!

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 11:59 AM
He is Chinese-Canadian. Thanks for the 'equipment' to help me out with my vocal outburst.

I highly doubt I will be reprimanded - my HR is a HUGE cat lover - so I really am not too worried.

He knows my stand on animal issues (the company even opened a website for us in regards to our animals) because people come to me everyday about their pets/issues/re-homing/wanting etc... so I don't think he knew I was close by. I am certain after the friggen lecture he got he will be hiding for the day....

It's just beyond me however...what was he expecting.

Love4himies
October 14th, 2008, 12:03 PM
He is Chinese-Canadian. Thanks for the 'equipment' to help me out with my vocal outburst.

I highly doubt I will be reprimanded - my HR is a HUGE cat lover - so I really am not too worried.

He knows my stand on animal issues (the company even opened a website for us in regards to our animals) because people come to me everyday about their pets/issues/re-homing/wanting etc... so I don't think he knew I was close by. I am certain after the friggen lecture he got he will be hiding for the day....

It's just beyond me however...what was he expecting.

Maybe he did it for the "shock", and in which case, it is harrassment.
Doesn't matter how "international" the company, there are employment in Canada that must be followed.

krdahmer
October 14th, 2008, 12:04 PM
I know many Chinese Canadians from working at the casino, and I know darn well that they have had both cat and dog meat while visiting family etc.... but not once would any of them think to announce that to anyone over here... IMO that guy is just an :censored: trying to get a rise out of people.

ashtoreth
October 14th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Maybe he did it for the "shock", and in which case, it is harrassment.
Doesn't matter how "international" the company, there are employment in Canada that must be followed.

someone has the right to have their beliefs and religion though :S that's the icky thing

however, if he did do it for the shock, yea, get his head on a pole and set fire to it for all I care.

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 12:06 PM
He got a rise alright....infact I schedule his workload..............Oops there is too much work today, I think I will add more.....

Love4himies
October 14th, 2008, 12:07 PM
someone has the right to have their beliefs and religion though :S that's the icky thing

however, if he did do it for the shock, yea, get his head on a pole and set fire to it for all I care.

Yes, as long as it is not breaking any laws.

chico2
October 14th, 2008, 12:08 PM
ashtoreth,it does not matter what country this jerk is from,this is Canada,the laws of Canada applies here,not that of China,Iraq,India or Sweden or wherever someone is from.
We all know how China treats anything thats edible(lately not edible),but this is Canada,thank Dog!
BenMax,I would tell your superior,this jerk made you sick and angry,just not acceptable:evil:

krdahmer
October 14th, 2008, 12:08 PM
http://bestsmileys.com/evil/3.gif ahhhh... the POWER! :laughing:

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 12:14 PM
ashtoreth,it does not matter what country this jerk is from,this is Canada,the laws of Canada applies here,not that of China,Iraq,India or wherever someone is from.
We all know how China treats anything thats edible(lately not edible),but this is Canada,thank Dog!
BenMax,I would tell your superior,this jerk made you sick and angry,just not acceptable:evil:

You bet! That being said half myself is from India. I would never advocate to mongoose/snake fighting. I have seen it many years ago but would not brag about it! And how about the poor cows that live in India - these animals that are supposidly protected die in plain view of the public. I am Canadian. Born and raised even though I am half Indian. My father always told me that we live as those around us. Our culture is not advertised nor forced upon anyone. We live, eat and breathe as Canadians. It boils down to respect.

I am still stewing....

ashtoreth
October 14th, 2008, 12:25 PM
It's awesome to see someone who actually moved here and became a Canadian :)
you and your dad have my respect, big time. Not many people are willing to be Canadian and keep their cultures, without imposing it to others.

But yes, please tell your boss about it, I'm curious to know how this turned out

chico2
October 14th, 2008, 12:26 PM
BenMax,I did not mean anything derogatory,we are immigrants too...!
I was at a friends house once for an Italian feast,she start telling us what her father used to do to little lambs and I actually had to leave the table and throw up.
Lack of class,sensitivity and respect for other peoples feelings:loser:

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 12:30 PM
It's awesome to see someone who actually moved here and became a Canadian :)
you and your dad have my respect, big time. Not many people are willing to be Canadian and keep their cultures, without imposing it to others.

But yes, please tell your boss about it, I'm curious to know how this turned out

We are Canadians and darn proud of it - I served Canada for 13 years. I wore the uniform with pride and my family supported me 100%. I love different cultures and being in Quebec gives us the liberty to experience many different ways of life - but whoever lives here should RESPECT the foundation of this country and live by the ways of this country.

The cat eater cannot redeem himself in my eyes. It's done!

ashtoreth
October 14th, 2008, 12:30 PM
The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
~Mohandas Gandhi

ashtoreth
October 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM
We are Canadians and darn proud of it - I served Canada for 13 years. I wore the uniform with pride and my family supported me 100%. I love different cultures and being in Quebec gives us the liberty to experience many different ways of life - but whoever lives here should RESPECT the foundation of this country and live by the ways of this country.


Yea, my dad's side of the family all served, me, I can't (bad back) and my boyfriend can't either (which he hates, seriously this guy was born to help people (army or emergency (911) jobs) but cant because of diabetes/epilepsy :(

I'm not okay with the current wars though, but I do respect troops, but thats an another can of worms ;)

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM
BenMax,I did not mean anything derogatory,we are immigrants too...!
I was at a friends house once for an Italian feast,she start telling us what her father used to do to little lambs and I actually had to leave the table and throw up.
Lack of class,sensitivity and respect for other peoples feelings:loser:

Oh gosh absolutely no offense taken.

I hear you - in my very own extended family something horrific happened (I am far too embarassed and ashamed to elaborate) - but let's just say that this individual is no longer considered even a distant relative.....we do not live this way in this country - bottom line.

joeysmama
October 14th, 2008, 02:39 PM
I'm just sitting here with my mouth open. It sounds like this guy wanted to shock people and be the center of attention. He had to know that he was in the company of people who would be offended by this.

hazelrunpack
October 14th, 2008, 02:41 PM
I am standing in line at lunch and a co-worker comes back from a business trip in China and tells everyone how he ate a white fluffy cat. He has before and after pictures......


:eek: So he brought back the pictures to show around?! That's just psycho. He was looking to get a rise out of people...no one takes before and after shots that way if they aren't hoping to shock someone. I hope it furthers his career...in a negative way. :evil: What a knob. :frustrated:

I'm sorry you have to work with someone like that, BenMax. :grouphug: Give him hell.

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 02:44 PM
By the look on his face after I was finished with him - I really don't think he expected someone to say something. There were 3 other Chinese there as well that said absolutely nothing. One of them came to me after and apologized on his behalf. He told me that even he does not buy anything from China nor does he ever eat any type of animal while in China 'just in case'. He also told me that in many parts of China - the killing of cats for food is forbidden. I never heard of that.

So I think this other guy is just an idiot plain and simple - but I think he will be more careful on what he says in the future.

By the way - I have not seen him ALL day - I am making sure he is kept busy working....and boy do I have a lot to pass down.

BenMax
October 14th, 2008, 03:02 PM
:eek: So he brought back the pictures to show around?! That's just psycho. He was looking to get a rise out of people...no one takes before and after shots that way if they aren't hoping to shock someone. I hope it furthers his career...in a negative way. :evil: What a knob. :frustrated:

I'm sorry you have to work with someone like that, BenMax. :grouphug: Give him hell.

He would not dare to post his pictures I can assure you!!! Hazelrunpack, you know I am a little 'excitable' so you can just imagine the scene. Just to let you know however I used no swearing, just some very cutting words and he got the picture without me yelling and freaking out. I did not have to tell him that he was a knob - he knew at that moment that he is. Would it prevent him from eating another cat...probably not - but he will remember me with his next meal!

Jim Hall
October 14th, 2008, 03:12 PM
before and after pics thats just wierd i dont want to see a pic of the pig my bacon came from

babymomma
October 14th, 2008, 03:38 PM
someone has the right to have their beliefs and religion though :S .

So if it were somebodies culture to eat newborn babies, would you still stand uop for his culture when hes bringing it back to canada?


This Sickens me!

Dumb BAST*RD... PArdon my french.. ( i know, horrible of me to be saying that:yuck:)

Joeyjoejoe
October 14th, 2008, 04:25 PM
So if it were somebodies culture to eat newborn babies, would you still stand uop for his culture when hes bringing it back to canada?


This Sickens me!

Dumb BAST*RD... PArdon my french.. ( i know, horrible of me to be saying that:yuck:)

That's an unfair comparison. Eating cats/dogs is not illegal in Canada (just very taboo)... but cannibalism is.

But having said that, he must have known those pics were going to set some people off (and make everyone else uncomfortable)... if he didn't then, he dumber than dirt... if he did, then he's a sick freak.

babymomma
October 14th, 2008, 05:00 PM
Eating cats/dogs is not illegal in Canada (just very taboo)...


I thought that would be concidered cruelty to animals, because you would first have to kill the animal. Im thinking if somebody around here did it, they would get charged in some way shape or form.


That's an unfair comparison.

I honestly do not think so. I think or any domesticated animal as a child, weather it is my animal, or a complete strangers animal:shrug:


But hey, we're all entitled to our opinions:shrug:

kanis
October 14th, 2008, 05:30 PM
If it's known within your office that you're an animal advocate and this jerk purposely shows you photos of his meal, then this guy is intentionally trying to get a rise out of you. He's an ass. And I think it's great that you called him out on his behaviour. It's inappropriate, especially in a work setting.

kiara
October 14th, 2008, 05:36 PM
This guy has a big mouth and is very insensitive. He has pictures of before and after? What an *****hole! You mean you actually choose the cat you want for lunch, or they show it to you first? It would be too much for me to take, being a cat lover and a rescuer! I would have walked away.

Love4himies
October 14th, 2008, 06:47 PM
He got a rise alright....infact I schedule his workload..............Oops there is too much work today, I think I will add more.....

:laughing::laughing: Good for you.

hazelrunpack
October 14th, 2008, 11:59 PM
He would not dare to post his pictures I can assure you!!! Hazelrunpack, you know I am a little 'excitable' so you can just imagine the scene. Just to let you know however I used no swearing, just some very cutting words and he got the picture without me yelling and freaking out.

I think you showed more self-restraint than I could have. :o And I hope you have enough work to keep him very very busy for a very long time.... :evil: I don't suppose you could set him to cleaning the toilets, could you?

rainbow
October 15th, 2008, 12:12 AM
I don't suppose you could set him to cleaning the toilets, could you?


:laughing:

Benmax, has the jerk given you an apology yet? Even though it would not excuse his behaviour at least it would be a gesture.

BenMax
October 15th, 2008, 08:01 AM
:laughing:

Benmax, has the jerk given you an apology yet? Even though it would not excuse his behaviour at least it would be a gesture.

NO - but get this.....he brought me a bottle! I told him to keep it in order to wash his mouth out....my collegues silently chuckled in order to cut the tension.

Oh my - looks like there is MORE work to do in such little time frame...well I'll be darned!

Jim Hall
October 15th, 2008, 08:27 AM
lol so he brings you liqur?? too off the wall!!! and you schedule hos work man tgis guy is clueless .:laughing:

BenMax
October 15th, 2008, 08:38 AM
If that is his peace offering then you are right Jim Hall - he is not a normal guy!

ancientgirl
October 15th, 2008, 09:26 AM
What a moron. I know the old saying "when in Rome," but that to me doesn't mean you have to take leave of all decency. There is no excuse to me as to why the Chinese do this, but I will say fine it's part of their culture. It's hard to talk to someone who's culture has certain things. It's ingrained into their thinking, but what's this a-hole's excuse?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know of anywhere here in North America where cat or dog is on the menu! That's disgusting. If I worked with someone like that, I'd only speak to them what needed to be discussed work-wise. Other than that, I'd ignore them completely.

And to show pictures? I can't fathom why anyone would brag. Oh wait, he's an a-hole, I forgot.

BenMax
October 15th, 2008, 09:47 AM
[QUOTE=ancientgirl;674645]Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know of anywhere here in North America where cat or dog is on the menu! That's disgusting. If I worked with someone like that, I'd only speak to them what needed to be discussed work-wise. Other than that, I'd ignore them completely. QUOTE]

I don't know either. I am pretty sure that it is not legal.....I am going to check into this!

Oh believe me Girl - it's all business now. I can't even crack a smile....unless I am loading on the work! I don't think I can ever recover from this information. He never was my favourite person ....I always felt something was 'off' - now I know why.

ancientgirl
October 15th, 2008, 09:56 AM
What I don't get, is the bragging. I mean, come on! As much cruelty and neglect as we are witnesses to and the stuff we don't see, we who live in the US and Canada, can pretty much say our countries love our pets. What in this guys brain has malfunctioned that he thinks it's cool to brag and show pictures of cat de jeur?

Even if it was a joke, it's a sick one and one I'd not forgive!

BenMax
October 15th, 2008, 10:36 AM
He is born Canadian! He knows better. I really truly believe that he is just very immature. There are some very big animal lovers where I work (including the president) so I don't really know why he would want to intentionally piss them off.

I just think he is a complete numbhead that has just learnt a very valuable lesson. He certainly is not getting any thumbs up at work. Too many people heard him - but no one said anything......except of course me. It was after that people started talking....

Everyone knows where I stand. So they all pretty much knew that there is no way that I could go voiceless - and I really don't care to whom animal issues are addressed to.

.......and in the meantime - the work keeps coming in.......:thumbs up

ancientgirl
October 15th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Yep, he just learned a very valuable lesson. :laughing: You go my friend!

BenMax
October 15th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Yep, he just learned a very valuable lesson. :laughing: You go my friend!

Going, going..........GONE!

im_nomad
October 15th, 2008, 07:26 PM
if i can chime in as the voice of "reason"........piling more work on this person or chuckling around him after putting him on the spot , is more likely to cause problems for YOU. Personal differences are no reason to make an unequal ground in the workplace, and this is likely to backfire.

I wouldn't be too keen on eating a cat or a dog, or a rabbit for that matter, but I don't eat ANY animals. I'm curious to hear how many who are disgusted by this, are meat eaters.

babymomma
October 15th, 2008, 07:35 PM
I'm curious to hear how many who are disgusted by this, are meat eaters.

If you havent noticed, its not the fact that he ate the cat that is p*ssing everybody off. Its how he reacted to it and tryed to show it off. This information shows that he must be mentally ill in someway to try to make people so uncomfortable when he KNEW it was wrong! I dont care what he eats, he just doesnt have the right to show pictures of the cat before and after. I assume you missed that part?

ancientgirl
October 15th, 2008, 07:58 PM
Personally, I'm offended by not only his eating a cat, but by his enthusiasm in showing before and after pictures.

And for the record, I'm a vegetarian.

im_nomad
October 15th, 2008, 08:04 PM
No I did not "miss that". I'm just saying that I'm not so sure someone coming from a hunting trip and standing in the lunch line talking about their deer kill or the great steak they had last night, would garner the same amount of attention.

I don't know how the OP workplace works in regards to lunchlines......but if the guy ( who does sound a bit arrogant from the OP's perspective, and no, I wouldn't want to hear about it or see photos ), was mouthing off to coworkers/friends in a line up........and someone overhears, it's a little different than posting a photo on the bulletin board or sending an e-mail to everyone with the photos. You're kind of "off duty" in a lunch lineup.

Sorry, but i get on a soapbox a little when people start comparing cute and cuddly animals to ugly or socially normed "edibles". I also don't like frivolous harassment claims. The offending person has been told off and by the sounds of it, has stopped and is making in some way his pathetic attempt at an apology. To continue to heap extra work on this person or make a scene of them, is inviting your own harassment claims.

babymomma
October 15th, 2008, 08:09 PM
Just so ya know, I dodnt think annybody on this board would Like to hear somebody in a lunchline up talk about the dear or cow or whatever has been killed. And honestly, I think it would get the same response. I for one would be very opinionated about it. And besides, this topic about Cows and pigs being eaten has aloready been brought up on Pets.ca, and we all got into a heated debate about it, nobody took that any more lightly then this. Its no use bringing up pigs , dear, cow etc. Because it isnt the point. The point is, this sick man went to his workplace and flaunted pictures of a white fluffy cat before it was killed, and right before it was eaten!:wall:

happycats
October 15th, 2008, 08:17 PM
No I did not "miss that". I'm just saying that I'm not so sure someone coming from a hunting trip and standing in the lunch line talking about their deer kill or the great steak they had last night, would garner the same amount of attention.

I don't know how the OP workplace works in regards to lunchlines......but if the guy ( who does sound a bit arrogant from the OP's perspective, and no, I wouldn't want to hear about it or see photos ), was mouthing off to coworkers/friends in a line up........and someone overhears, it's a little different than posting a photo on the bulletin board or sending an e-mail to everyone with the photos. You're kind of "off duty" in a lunch lineup.

Sorry, but i get on a soapbox a little when people start comparing cute and cuddly animals to ugly or socially normed "edibles". I also don't like frivolous harassment claims. The offending person has been told off and by the sounds of it, has stopped and is making in some way his pathetic attempt at an apology. To continue to heap extra work on this person or make a scene of them, is inviting your own harassment claims.

Although I think this cat eating and bragging idiot should get kicked in the A$$, I do agree that, giving him extra work, or more work then others, could get Benmax in serious trouble at work. This jerk just isn't worth it.

ancientgirl
October 15th, 2008, 08:24 PM
That person would get the same reaction from me were it a deer, cow, pig, fish, whatever. I don't even like to watch cooking shows anymore because I have no desire at all to see a piece of meat, no matter where it came from, sizzling on some grill. I deal with the fact I have to feed my cats meat, it's what they NEED in order to live. Since I don't need it, I choose to not participate in eating it.

I just think what this person did is stupid. You don't know what the other people around you believe in or how they feel about a certain thing. Hunting is a very black and white issue for some people. And those who are for and against it are usually very passionate. As are people who are passionate about animal rights. So to hear someone bragging about eating a cat, like they just managed to catch the latest sale at their local department store and got a great deal on a pair of boots, is just appalling to me.

Hell you can love a good steak, that's your moral issue, but I don't care to hear about how juicy it was or how you picked it out yourself.

flipgirl4
October 16th, 2008, 02:17 AM
I agree that this guy had really bad judgement by showing off his consumption of a cat. However, if a person who fishes or hunts shows a picture of the fish or deer being eaten, most people would not bother to freak out on that person. It's because it's a cat, a domesticated animal in our culture. I don't know if they eat cats in China but I do know that dogs are eaten in the Phillpines and in Vietnam. I don't think we can deny this kind of ethnocentricity; it's more acceptable to go fishing or hunting in our culture. I'm not a big fan of hunting but I'm also not a vegetarian. The chickens and pigs and cows that are bred for feeding us are not exactly treated humanely. When I used to work, the train station I had to go to is beside a meat factory. Every morning, I would see a truckload of pigs go into the factory. Every evening, there was a smell of poop (I'm sure those pigs were scared *****less) and I'd see the truck leave the factory empty. Now I don't eat pork. But why do I still eat chicken and beef?

I know the point of this thread was the fact that he bragged about it but don't we brag (those who are carnivores) that we had the best steak at whatever restaurant? Every Thanksgiving, turkeys are stuffed with cooked bread and celebrated. I watched a program once on which a family who raised turkeys ate tofurkey (Tofu turkey) and the turkeys had the cranberry dinner. That was cool.

I'm not saying he was right in doing that, he should have had better judgement, especially since he is born Canadian, to know that he would get a strong reaction. But he's been told and most likely embarrassed in front of the other workers so shouldn't that be enough? Just because you don't like him that much doesn't justify loading him up with work.

carlamaria
October 16th, 2008, 02:33 AM
maybe he was trying to get a reaction?! In some cultures, it is quite norm to eat domestic pets...as we regard them. However...he put the emphasis on ' white fluffy' ...mean shock value! I know how much it hurts to listen to that crap! As a vegetarian....I can be assured that I'm hurting no ones feelings and no creatures lives!
...continue to care!

chico2
October 16th, 2008, 07:18 AM
This man was an insensitive jerk,whether he was talking about a white fluffy cat,or a poor tortured calf,period:evil:
I am 100% behind BenMax,hopefully this man will decide to quit the job,he showed a very poor character IMO.

BenMax
October 16th, 2008, 08:57 AM
For those you do not think that he deserves a little more work - I am certainly glad that I am ready to take the heat.

I have taken on many grander of person and even establishments. I will stand by MY convictions and do what is right.

He has made the image very clear in my head - now it is my turn to make something very clear in his.

There is nothing that will change my mind about this - it is what it is. Fortunately (or unfortunately) some know who I am here - so they know me well enough that I will do whatever it takes is to make my point clear.

ancientgirl
October 16th, 2008, 09:00 AM
I've got no issues with you giving him more work. That's an image that doesn't go away. I didn't see the picture and I have the image in my head. He knew full well the reaction he was going to get.

BenMax
October 16th, 2008, 09:16 AM
I've got no issues with you giving him more work. That's an image that doesn't go away. I didn't see the picture and I have the image in my head. He knew full well the reaction he was going to get.

There are consequences for what you say and do....I am fully prepared to take mine. Thanks for your support as this thread is NOT about me and my actions.

MommaKat
October 16th, 2008, 09:49 AM
:grouphug: and supoort. He was trying to get a rise out of people, and his actions cannot be smoothed over by a bottle of booze imo :headslap: :wall: Good for you for ripping into him, lunch line or not I would have done the same.

BenMax
October 16th, 2008, 09:55 AM
:grouphug: and supoort. He was trying to get a rise out of people, and his actions cannot be smoothed over by a bottle of booze imo :headslap: :wall: Good for you for ripping into him, lunch line or not I would have done the same.

Thanks MommaKat - appreciate it! So this morning I got the apology. I think that the message was clear. Very difficult for me to swollow it - but I took the apology and advised him that I never want to hear anything more about it.

I can't tell you how truly shaken I am.

Jim Hall
October 16th, 2008, 10:31 AM
wel at least you got an apolgy

happycats
October 16th, 2008, 10:58 AM
For those you do not think that he deserves a little more work - I am certainly glad that I am ready to take the heat.

I have taken on many grander of person and even establishments. I will stand by MY convictions and do what is right.

He has made the image very clear in my head - now it is my turn to make something very clear in his.

There is nothing that will change my mind about this - it is what it is. Fortunately (or unfortunately) some know who I am here - so they know me well enough that I will do whatever it takes is to make my point clear.


Trust me, I think he deserves more the extra work, maybe latrine duty, or I wouldn't care if he got hit by a truck quite honestly :evil:and I know you have to do what you have to do, but it is a form of harassment, and you may be the one that suffers, while he laughs on.

I'm all for it if your prepared to accept the consequences, I'd even help you if I could!! :evil:....Do you need someone to make an anonomous phone call....:D

BenMax
October 16th, 2008, 11:11 AM
Happycats you are too cute! Thanks and the bathrooms are taken care of by the building.....unfortunately....

babymomma
October 16th, 2008, 05:41 PM
:thumbs upBenmax- i am behind you 100% . He did this to get a rise out of people, and he got one by you giving him extra work. His plan definatly backfired and he got a rise that he didnt expect!!!


:grouphug: and :highfive:s andd to you!!

pbpatti
October 16th, 2008, 06:45 PM
You just say that you know people who eat testicules and cut his :D yeh Frenchy I agree wholeheartedly pbp

MyBirdIsEvil
January 7th, 2010, 03:59 AM
Whether it's ok to eat cats over there or in that culture is completely beyond the point and not even worth discussing. He's wasn't showing the pictures off in China, he was showing them off in Canada.
It's NOT considered ok to eat cats or dogs in Canadian or American culture (and the guy apparently knew this), so to show off a picture of a cute little cat to your coworkers and then mention how you ate it and show those pictures too is nothing less than sociopathic. The guy knew he wasn't in China, nor 100% in the company of people of that culture, and should have known it was inappropriate, especially in a work situation.
If you work in a culture that finds something disgusting and inhumane you don't go showing off pictures to the people you're working with.
I eat venison, my husband hunts, and like a lot of people that eat wild game I have pictures of the deer he's brought home, but I don't show those pictures to people I know find that stuff distasteful or don't agree with it. I especially wouldn't show those pictures off to coworkers in a country whose culture finds that kind of thing wrong and brag about how tasty the meat was. I wouldn't even bring those type of pictures to work here in America even though it's completely legal to hunt wild game and a lot of people don't have a problem with it.

Luvmypitgirls
January 8th, 2010, 01:40 AM
Being that this is a family forum, I cannot go into detail what I would've said, and then done, had this been my co-worker.:mad:

All I can say, is I would've had fun watching him turn blue while choking on his own testies....Ohhh perhaps I've said too much;)

marilynmarilyn8
January 25th, 2010, 03:37 AM
This is very disgusting,I really find that guy silly who have eaten innocent cats.This is very bad thing what else I should say.I think he must get punishment for this.:evil:

Myka
January 25th, 2010, 10:51 AM
The before and after pictures are kind of weird...like sick weird. But go to India and tell the Hindus you ate a cow in Canada. They will have the same reaction! Or how about the seafood restaurants where you pick your own Lobster or Crab?? I mean, most of us don't take pictures, but we do pick out which one we want to eat. Imo, if you eat any sort of animal meat (including fish), you would be a hypocrite if you were offended by the meat choices others made.

TacoGrl
January 25th, 2010, 12:51 PM
I think it was VERY distasteful to have pics...VERY tacky and immature.

As for actually eating cat, while I find it disgusting, it depends on what your culture is I guess...lots of folks around the world eat some VERY gross things cuz that is what they have instead of starving...however, I would think it just as easy to raise chickens as it is to raise cats or dogs. :shrug:

Myka
January 25th, 2010, 02:14 PM
What makes it "more ok" to eat a chicken? Simply the fact that it is a bird instead of a mammal? A cow is a mammal! It is this mentality that really bothers me. You're either in or you're out. You either eat meat or you don't. I personally don't think there is any difference in eating a fish, rabbit, sheep, pig, crab, cat, dog, horse, cow. It's all the same. An animal died for your consumption. I despise it when people put a value over an animal's head. Why is it ok to eat a cow, but not a cat? :shrug:

BenMax
January 25th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Myka - let's tone this down somewhat. This is an old thread. It's over and done with.

Open a thread with your views perhaps. Maybe you will get what you are looking for.

Myka
January 25th, 2010, 05:15 PM
BenMax, I had no idea it was an old thread, I don't by habit look at the dates. Someone else bumped it up. I'm not looking for anything, I just replied to it when it popped up on the "New Posts"! This is a forum, I can reply to whichever thread I would like to. You may disagree with me, but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to share my own thoughts on the subject - 'tis the point of a forum. :)

Sorry but the tone is not harsh, there is a lot lost in translation when you're typing. Cheers. :)

alove4pets
January 25th, 2010, 05:20 PM
For me, that is just soooo wrong on soooo many levels!
:sick: I feel sick! Well I guess he got the reaction he was looking for...

~ Owning a pet is a privilege... Not a right!

BenMax
January 25th, 2010, 05:20 PM
I had no idea it was an old thread. Someone else bumped it up. I just replied when it showed up on the "New Posts". I'm not looking for anything. This is a forum, I can reply to wichever thread I would like to. Cheers.

Absolutely, but there is a way to respond without being confrontational. If you want your opinions to be respected, then that courtesy should go to others. Just a thought.

Myka
January 25th, 2010, 05:29 PM
BenMax, you replied before I finished editing. I don't see the confrontationalism you're referring to. If you would like to continue to discuss this off-topic subject please send PM. :D

BenMax
January 25th, 2010, 05:30 PM
BenMax, you replied before I finished editing. I don't see the confrontationalism you're referring to. If you would like to continue to discuss this off-topic subject please send PM. :D

Not really but thanks for the offer. I based my answer on your non editted reply. It's all good.:thumbs up

Myka
January 25th, 2010, 05:31 PM
:thumbs up

Kay9
January 25th, 2010, 08:44 PM
EEEEEEEEUUUUUWWWWWWW:yuck::yuck:


I'd barf all over him.:D

Golden Girls
January 26th, 2010, 09:05 AM
Why should we feel WE have a "divine right" to chose to eat burgars & chicken knowing full well the sacrifice & torchure that animal went through for our nourishment where another culture might find that animal sacred therefore appalling - IMO so hypocritical

want to talk about our own "white" history of horrific abuse, who are we to label China?

Both cats and dogs in china are ordered exactly like Myka said when we chose a lobster, it's picked & watched while being prepared. Their livestock just as our cows and pigs are to us.

This guy wanted a rise so what, maybe he was just calling it as it is :shrug: How many people in that lunch line up was ordering something with meat in in ... who gave animal welfare people the right to be racist on what animal they feel one should eat or not :rolleyes:

I know I got rise reading this on a pet forum!

chico2
January 26th, 2010, 11:27 AM
It's not as much as they are eating cats/dogs,although the thought bothers me to no end,it is more about this man being a jerk,knowing most people would be upset.
Personally,yes,I eat meat and know full well about the suffering of our food-sources,it's always in the back of my mind,but it's very unrealistic to think the slaughtering would end.
Do I want to see horrific before and after pics of pigs,cows,chickens etc...NO!

Golden Girls
January 26th, 2010, 01:25 PM
From what I read (it appears this part was missed) it was stated he had photos not that he showed them. He's obviously insensitive but I think it happens often with animal issues where some like to "nudge" to get a reaction.

It equally bothers me Chico so much I had nightmares when I learnt that cats and dogs even get eaten so it's not that I don't understand. Had he said this within my hearing I'd of probably lost my appetite and puked for sure.

But I get upset too when I read someone just had a good steak or brag how crispt their turkey was on Thanksgiving but who am I to pass judgement or expect someone to redeem themselves or only eat what I think is ok ... that's just wrong IMO

I really don't feel anyone has any right to ridicule, give extra work, call him every name in the book because he ate something in China we regard as pets all the while support our own horrific slaughterhouses ... or is this too politically incorrect to say? I didn't go search to stir the pot it appeared in "new threads" and although it's last years topic this thread really rubbed me the wrong way and felt the need to share my :2cents:

BenMax
January 26th, 2010, 01:31 PM
The real purpose of this thread was to get your opinions in regards to the insensitivity of the subject matter. It was not to cause arguement as to the value of animals due to the species. It's about living and breathing in North America where it is not the 'norm' to consume what we consider domestic animals.

It really is not a dispute about hypocracy of those who eat meat yet are repulsed about the consumption of our idea of a domestic pets.

For those that are bothered by this thread because there are meat eaters and what's the difference..etc..etc - I wonder how many pets are vegetarians? What do you feed them?

Myka
January 26th, 2010, 07:05 PM
I think there is a certain amount of reality that comes from seeing the reality of slaughter whether that is through photos or video (PETA for example). Of course there are those people who have been raised to not have respect for animals at all, and who are left unmoved by such videos/photos.

GG, would you mind clarifying? Did you get a rise out of this thread because it's about eating an animal or because of the hypocrisy contained within the thread? Thanks for stepping out onto the other side of the fence with me. =]

BenMax, such are forums...you don't always get to choose the direction a thread goes. Sometimes that is frustrating when you are the OP, but you always have the choice of reading/responding or not.

aslan
January 26th, 2010, 07:28 PM
as the OP she also has the right to request that you stay on topic..If you choose to continue YOUR topic she has already requested you start your own thread.

It is extremely distasteful to brag about eating cats while in china, as is the fact they will eat live monkey brains. But it's no worse than the country's that look onto cows as a godlike symbol. Each country has its own culture and should be respected while in that country.

TacoGrl
January 26th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Each country has its own culture and should be respected while in that country.


Too bad MORE people don't abide by this simple courtesy.

vegan_girl
February 3rd, 2010, 09:49 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7003032.ece

Twocents
February 4th, 2010, 01:03 AM
BenMax, I'm glad you were able to speak on behalf of us pet lovers who agree with you. To have said nothing, would that not imply acceptance of such distasteful behaviour? I'm glad you overcame your initial shock and let the jerk know he crossed the line. :thumbs up

I'm not sure what I would have done as I've never been in that situation. :yuck:

To encourage more empathy and improve welfare of all animals is something worth working towards.


A little off topic, but...

As Canadians, in public we are generally very sensitive about defending the rights and cultures of other people.

But give some people a username/avatar to hide behind and all bets are off!

Could this be why some forums (not this one) more closely resemble the Colosseum in Roman times?

I mean, I've noticed even some forum moderators (none here!) come across as nasty! I get the impression that they're just going around "peeing" on everyone's posts. They get rewarded because they increase their post counts & receive a higher "status". It kind of stinks. :frustrated:

I know, this should be a new topic.

:2cents:

Golden Girls
February 4th, 2010, 08:57 AM
It was not to cause arguement as to the value of animals due to the species. It's about living and breathing in North America where it is not the 'norm' to consume what we consider domestic animals.

It really is not a dispute about hypocracy of those who eat meat yet are repulsed about the consumption of our idea of a domestic pets.To some people eating cows or cats it's the same thing therefore in their opinion very much on topic :shrug: As you said If you want your opinions to be respected, then that courtesy should go to others. Just a thought. :highfive:

For those that are bothered by this thread because there are meat eaters and what's the difference..etc..etc - I wonder how many pets are vegetarians? What do you feed them?Our pets lives solely depend on animal protein it's ridiculous to say otherwise but an option could be free range. There's also plenty of biologically appropriate kibble as well.

To each their own :2cents:

aslan
February 4th, 2010, 09:39 AM
To some people eating cows or cats it's the same thing therefore in their opinion very much on topic :shrug: As you said If you want your opinions to be respected, then that courtesy should go to others. Just a thought. :highfive:

But it's not the same thing GG, this thread is about someone who bragged about eating cats in a country that doesn't support this diet..now if we were in a country that worships cows, then bragging about cows would be equally inappropriate. So since this is about cats and not cows, lets discuss that..

As for BM respecting opinions, having met her in person, she IS NOT a white, anglo canadian,, her family came to our country and she DOES respect our traditions and ways. So back to our regularily scheduled program.:D

Golden Girls
February 4th, 2010, 10:01 AM
[QUOTE]But it's not the same thing GG, this thread is about someone who bragged about eating cats in a country that doesn't support this diet..now if we were in a country that worships cows, then bragging about cows would be equally inappropriate. So since this is about cats and not cows, lets discuss that..Actually Aslan my reply was to other posts that were already off topic so I added my personal feelings.

I think it was pretty clear everyone agreed he was insensitive however I just didn't happen to agree he's a savaged heartless monster.

BenMax
February 4th, 2010, 11:14 AM
But it's not the same thing GG, this thread is about someone who bragged about eating cats in a country that doesn't support this diet..now if we were in a country that worships cows, then bragging about cows would be equally inappropriate. So since this is about cats and not cows, lets discuss that..



Thank you Aslan as indeed this was the reason for the thread - nothing more, nothing less.

I really am not that bothered by the remarks made by others here. Sometimes knowing where they come ...well let's just say that it is to be expected.

Myka
February 4th, 2010, 04:50 PM
:rolleyes:

poodletalk
February 22nd, 2010, 07:58 AM
Just recently an Italian Chef who had a very popular cooking show in Italy, bragged about eating "white meat" of a cat and how tasty it is in a stew.

Needless to say, soon as the show was over, he got fired from the network.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/16/tv-chef-cat-stew-italy