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What a Jindo wants! What a Jindo needs! To make it happy

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 01:55 PM
Haha sorry about title guys..Anyhow I decided to adopt the 6 year old baby Jindo :D! THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT REPLIED EARLIER ( i dont know what could i have done without yall! Now the problem is..i have a 6'3 fence with a garden around it.. I have a pretty big backyard..but Im scared the lil pup is going to destroy all of it :confused: ..i cant put it inside becuase my moms allergice to some fur..but i dont want to chain it up because we have a gaezebo and if it jumps off it then it will hang itself :eek: .. so i dont know what to do!!! This is my 2nd time caring for a dog but my first in caring for a prideful one.. Could you help me think of a solution on where to put my Jindo and what my Jindo needs? Thanks alot yall

P.S Also with your solution put a name for this PUP..ill send u pictures of it when i get it!

Princesss04
July 13th, 2004, 02:03 PM
He is going to be an outside dog?

heidiho
July 13th, 2004, 02:34 PM
i just dont get it,why get a dog if you already know someone is allergic???And there are not alot of things that get my blood boiling but CHAINING a dgo for any amount of time is WRONG,quickest way to get an agrressive dog...............

cmt489
July 13th, 2004, 02:37 PM
Referring to your title of "what a Jindo wants, what a Jindo needs" is to be part of its pack!!

Primitive breeds DO NOT do well as outside dogs that are cut off from their family (my bias is that no dog does, but this is beside the point). What is my experience you ask? I currently have a Shiba Inu (another primitive breed) and have raised Akitas (also a primitive breed). As stated to you in my reply to your earlier post, these dogs take A LOT of work and cannot be left out in a back yard, fence or chained (plus, it is cruel to leave a dog chained in a yard - many cities are now passing laws to prevent this).

Proper socialization and stimulation are KEY!!! Please, please, please ensure you can properly take care of this little doggie's needs before you take on the responsiblilty of Jindo ownership (or, should I say, being owned by a Jindo :p ) This includes making sure the dog can interact with you in your home, not be chained and get plenty of exercise. This dog needs plenty of time to interact and bond with you. Remember, you are adopting a 6 month old pup of a breed that is aloof and distrustful of strangers (aka not his original owner) - reassurance, patience, love and persistence will be key.

Michelle

heidiho
July 13th, 2004, 02:41 PM
I am sitting here and i just done get it,it cant be outside it cant be inside why are you getting it??????

Lucky Rescue
July 13th, 2004, 03:59 PM
I advise you to pay attention to what cmt489 says regarding proper care of Asian breeds.

No dog should spend life alone in a yard. If this is the life you have planned for this puppy, then you should not have it, sorry to say.

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 04:54 PM
I thought primitive beasts were supposed to be outside? Like my mom says I can have it but she just cant get near it for like 6 hours..What if i take turns putting it in and out? Like I can leave it outside and play with it and were dont just put it back in the house?

chico2
July 13th, 2004, 05:01 PM
I am really confused,not outside nor inside? Calling a beautiful puppy(6yrs or 6 months???)a beast??? The only beasts in this world walk on two legs!!

heidiho
July 13th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Your mom cant get near it for 6 hours ??? what does that mean i am not understanding,are you kibbles???

Lucky Rescue
July 13th, 2004, 05:09 PM
Please read this basic information carefullyJindo (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/jindo.htm) :

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 05:29 PM
lol... alrite guys let me rephrase this...my mom cant get near fur(cat fur dog cur ) etc for to long..she can stand em but she cant like hug em and kiss em etc...my mom said it was ok but i cant have the dog in the house for to long though...so i was thinking i switched shifts...i have the jindo insdie for 2 hrs out for 2 in for 2 out for 2 etc etc..how does this plan work..

PS. OF COURSE when its a puppy im going to give it extra love and extra joy and happiness but im talking about when he gets pretty old like say 1 yr etc

repson asap

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 05:32 PM
OOOO..i think i can put it inside forever :D :D :D :D :D :D becuase no one uses our laundry room(excpet for laundry) and thats where he can sleep and we can just have the jindo around me 24/7 : :D hwo does this sound?? please reply to the top one to!

heidiho
July 13th, 2004, 05:34 PM
I personally dont believe you are not kibbles,so i will not go along with this bulls*** you are writing here..........

mastifflover
July 13th, 2004, 05:40 PM
If you are for real do the dog a favour and find him someone other than yourself to take him chaining him outside or putting him in a laundry room is cruel and no way to treat a pet. How would you like to be kept outside than when you are inside you are kept in a laundry room. Do the animal world a favour and dont get a pet.

cmt489
July 13th, 2004, 05:41 PM
Laundry room is definitely preferred over being an outdoor dog or chained and may very well work for you but only if you are ready, willing and able to put in the work that a Jindo requires.

Please remember, for those of us who love the Asian breeds, there really are no other dogs for us BUT, for many, these dogs can be too much. Many of them end up in rescue for a reason. Everytime someone coos over how cute Oliver is and where to get a Shiba, I explain that they are wonderful dogs for those who love them but that they are not a dog for everyone...

Before you take this dog make sure you AND your mom read all there is to know about these dogs. They are NOT for the faint at heart and, unfortunately, they do not generally make good dogs for first time owners. They will test the limits every chance they get but, if you clearly establish respect and alpha roles early on (through positive reinforcement and training) you will have a special bond with your Jindo dog like no other! :)

If you are certain that you can accept full responsibility for this little guy and are willing to seek experienced help when necessary (and I mean those experienced with Asian breeds since they are different to train than other dogs) I send you my best wishes. I also send them to you even if you decide you cannot take on this responsibility (because it is a lot!!) :) :)

Michelle

Lucky Rescue
July 13th, 2004, 05:45 PM
OF COURSE when its a puppy im going to give it extra love and extra joy and happiness but im talking about when he gets pretty old like say 1 yr etc


??? 1 yr old is a puppy. Do you think 1 yr old dogs dont' need love and training and attention?

Are you reading anything anyone is writing or the link I gave you?

I don't know how old you are, but are going to school in the fall? Who is going to take care of this dog all day if you are?

heidiho
July 13th, 2004, 05:47 PM
This person is kibbles,i dont buy a word of this,now the dog can come in house,sleep in laundry room,give it up Kibbles,you need serious help or hobby///

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 06:06 PM
omg..lol can yall comprehend what im wrtinig I SAID..." I can put it in the laundry room when its time sleep"... who says im gonan chain it? I asked if i should because this is my first? And who the fuk is kibbles? If yall are caring and stuff stop flaming and being negative the only one thats acutally helping me is CMT and lucky.. the rest of yall are blaming me for my fukin mistakes..wtf arent u supposed to help a noobie at raisnig dogs? I KNOW everyone was at one point because then how else would u start out with a dog? can u PLEASE step critizing me and actually give me some advice.. NOW I NEVER SAID I WAS GONNA CHAIN THE JINDO and i acutally read some articles and it said " Jindo is an outdoor dog and needs wide open spaces to run and roam. Indoor would contain the Jindo's menally and physically. Best prefer to keep the Jindo outside" Now im not an expert or anything but whos right and whos wrong? Im willing to listen but can u stop critzing me for my blunt questions and comments? IM NOT GONNA STICK IT IN A SMALL LAUNDRY ROOM OR CHAIN IT UP IN TEXAS HEAT OF 100F ..only osama bin laden would do that.. im just saying..im going to turn the laundry room into a bed for the jindo..and ur rite.. i dont know what im going to do when i go to school..any suggsetions?

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 06:06 PM
no duh dogs need love and extra attention...even when there old

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 06:07 PM
they need love and attention throughout their LIVES!!!!!!!!11
and PS I JUST JOINED THIS PETS.cA so i can ask peoples opinons about raising animals..im not this''kibbles'' or anything so can you stop accusing me of being him?

heidiho
July 13th, 2004, 06:09 PM
Still not buying it,nice try though kibbles.....And i looked and read about this dog,wwwwwwwwayyyyyyy out of your league to handle...You sure say things just like kibbles i am not a f**** moron..Others might buy this,but you for sure are not fooling me...

cmt489
July 13th, 2004, 06:17 PM
i acutally read some articles and it said " Jindo is an outdoor dog and needs wide open spaces to run and roam. Indoor would contain the Jindo's menally and physically. Best prefer to keep the Jindo outside" Now im not an expert or anything but whos right and whos wrong? Im willing to listen but can u stop critzing me for my blunt questions and comments? . . .i dont know what im going to do when i go to school..any suggsetions?


I'm not sure who wrote the article about them being better off outside but, in my 12 years experience with primitive/Asian breeds this is definitely NOT the case. These dogs want to be "near" you all the time (not lap dogs, not even cuddly dogs, but always within 10 to 15 feet). Every breeder I have spoken to has said the same thing. They NEED to be with their family (pack) in order to be properly socialized. You should see my parents' house - 200 pounds of Akita always underfoot - LOL!! For me, it is always 22 pounds of Shiba chewing at my ankle...

IMO and experience, the article that said they should be outside dogs is simply WRONG!!! Plus, these are not dogs that can be allowed to roam. They are also escape artists so generally should not be left alone even in a secure yard unless you are SURE that they cannot escape (and this includes scaling fences).

Re what to do when you are at school - these dogs, like any dog, can adapt to a routine. So long as you are consistent with the dog when you come home there should be no problems. You can also consider hiring a dog walker or taking your dog to day care when you are not home all day (although Asian breeds are not welcomed by all day cares unless very well socialized and temperment tested...)

Michelle

cmt489
July 13th, 2004, 06:31 PM
LOL!!! LR I read your link after I had posted everything and I could have just cut and paste what it said :p - would have been much quicker than typing it!!! :D

Michelle

jindo4life
July 13th, 2004, 07:26 PM
cmt do you have a email adress? im gonna beg my mom to let the jindo in as long as i take care of it and as long as its near me.. see my younger brother past away couple months ago and my dad considered buying a dog so that it could bea "substitue" nothing can subsitute a human brother but i thought having a puppy would be neat..sorry if i was pissed off earlier..my parents were bitching and yelling . but anyways thanks cmt for all the help..u just made me realize to let the jindo in and stuff..any advice for toys..food..grooming..etc etc...exercising fun activites?? btw can u give me ur email adress incase i need to ask questions

cmt489
July 13th, 2004, 07:30 PM
Jindo4life - I am always happy to help people try to understand these breeds (I say try because I'm not sure if anyone ever fully understands what makes their little minds tick... :D ). Feel free to personal message me on this message board. If you prefer an email address, I will send it to you over the PM system.

Michelle

heidiho
July 13th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Oh my god,i cant believe you buy this cmt,you seem very nice i hate to see you falling for this.........

cmt489
July 13th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Heidiho, I don't believe I am "falling" for anything. I have seen no evidence that this is "kibbles" as you accuse this poster of being, nor have I seen this poster post anything that is overtly inappropriate. Some bad language, yes, but I do believe, if my memory serves me correctly, that you have been guilty of this same offence (more than once I might add).

Yes, I am nice but I am also intelligent and can make my own decisions with respect to those I wish to help and those I choose to ignore. In any event, this poster has asked to take it to a personal messaging/email level so I am sure you will not be disturbed by his/her posts anymore.

Please remember back to when you were trying to obtain advice relating to Damien. You asked the same questions over and over again and expected people to keep responding to them. At least this poster is not repeating him/herself and is trying to explain him/herself in a manner that moves the posts forward.

Alright, I have said all I will say on this topic. Heidiho, I am not trying to be derogatory, but am simply asking that you please try to remember back to when you first appeared on this board and show some patience for posters who may be asking legitimate questions.

I am now moving on and my future posts in this thread will only relate to breed specific questions.

Michelle

Lucky Rescue
July 13th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Heidi, there is no evidence that this person is other than what is presented here, so unless you have something to add to the discussion, please stop this.

And jindo4life and heidi, please stop with the bad language.

Thank you.

heidiho
July 14th, 2004, 11:12 AM
Yeah,ok!!!!! I will leave it alone,they sure do talk the exact same way.see ya!!!

moontamara
July 14th, 2004, 11:41 AM
I've been to Jindo -- it's an island in Korea, where the Jindo dogs originated from. Lovely place... lots of Jindo dogs -- all of them outdoor pets. Of course, I almost always saw at least two dogs together, hardly ever just one. Perhaps they need company and that's why you're all suggesting it be raised inside?

By the way, a lot of you have excellent advice, but I think it would be better heeded if it was given in a kinder sort of tone. This kid is obviously doing his (or her) best, even bothering to find this forum and ask questions -- even before getting the dog. Give the kid a break.

In a perfect world everyone would do all their research before they get their puppy and then they would know exactly what to do. But humans are animals too, and are insanely flawed. Plus, most people have some experience with raising a pet, and that experience can give them some false sense of confidence that they know what they are doing -- when really their methods are outdated. I'm finding out that a lot of things I was sure are okay are not recommended (like alpha rolls, although I think it works with my little guy) even though I DID do a lot of research before I got my puppy AND I do have experience with raising puppies from my childhood.

If you really want to help people and their lovely pets, please consider phrasing your advice a little differently. That way, people will gladly take your advice, and will come back here when they have more questions. Otherwise, people will just get turned off and the pets will suffer. I've already been helped out a lot on this forum and am so glad that I found it. But I'm a little dismayed by all the bickering that goes on here. I hope that I don't end up finding myself in a quarrel from saying this...but I trust that my words will be regarded as peaceful.