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How's this for a reason to give your cat away!!! It won't use the toilet to go poo!!

Dracko
July 8th, 2008, 02:41 AM
Looking on Kijiji locally here in Saskatoon and came across this:

Her name is Jasmin. Supposedly, she's an odd-eyed american short-hair mixed with Turkish Angora. We have had her since she was 4 weeks old. We are giving her away because we have 3 cats in toatl, whom of which are all toilet trained, but she's being stubborn and refuses to go #2 in the toilet( therefore goes elsewhere), and I don't want to deal with litter/litterboxes/scooping ever again! She loves the litterbox, and has no problem using it....

http://saskatoon.kijiji.ca/c-pets-cats-kittens-for-sale-White-med-length-hair-beautiful-odd-eyed-female-cat-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ52308622

luckypenny
July 8th, 2008, 06:16 AM
She is almost 4 years old, and her EXACT birthday is July 12, 2004. Since she is the youngest, we have less of a connection with her, so it's easier to giveher away.

After 4 years??? :confused:

The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me :wall: .

14+kitties
July 8th, 2008, 06:24 AM
She's four years old and they've had her since she was four weeks. How can you not have an emotional attachment to her? :loser:s big time! :frustrated:At least they had enough sense to ask for a little money instead of giving her away free. But still - :loser:s!

Love4himies
July 8th, 2008, 06:35 AM
Very weird ad. They care enough that she goes to a non smoking home and they did get her spayed.

ancientgirl
July 8th, 2008, 08:39 AM
They've had her for 4 years and have less of an attachment to her so it's easier to give her away?

OMG! I don't even know what to say. I'm speechless. :sad:

ETA: I'm sorry, I couldn't keep my mouth shut. I emailed this:

You have some nerve wanting to receive updates after you give her away for such such an idiotic reason.

I hope some day someone tosses you away for something so stupid. After all, they probably won't have an attachment to you.

Dracko
July 8th, 2008, 09:14 AM
Good for u AG. I wanted to write something last night but I was so furious I just couldn't.

allfurlove
July 8th, 2008, 09:44 AM
That poor cat. From the sounds of it they have taken very good care of her...who the heck does all that and then wants to sell them for such an idiotic reason??? Sick....

ancientgirl
July 8th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Nobody likes having to clean out litter, Please! But my heavens that is no reason to give you a cat you've had in your home for 4 years! Did they ever even love that poor girl?

What really frosted my @ss was they wanted to periodically check up on her after they gave her away! That's why I had to write something.

Why don't they just get a stuffed cat? They don't eat, poop or pee.

You have pets you have to deal with the fact they poop! And you will have to clean that up!

So she hates litter, but it's okay to leave the toilet open all day and come home to those floaters?

badger
July 8th, 2008, 10:52 AM
I wouldn't give them visits. Maybe the occasional email. Dumping does not get you privileges.
Neurotics.

Dracko
July 8th, 2008, 11:19 AM
So she hates litter, but it's okay to leave the toilet open all day and come home to those floaters?

Maybe the others will be the next to go cuz they don't FLUSH!!! :frustrated:

ancientgirl
July 8th, 2008, 11:39 AM
I considered trying to toilet train Vlad when I first got him. I did so because placement of litter boxes in the apartment I was living was difficult. But as I thought about it and read information pro/con I decided against it. I worked around the litter box placement and just dealt with having them in obstructive spots. When I got Oksana I was doubly glad I changed my mind because one day she jumped on the seat just because she wanted to get on the counter and lost her footing and fell inside! (it was clean btw)

I'd be more afraid for my furry's to fall in and drown. I can deal with litter boxes, big deal. I'd rather have that than wondering if they have fallen in, or coming home to a smelly toilet.

I bet when this person has company she keeps the toilet seats down and her poor cats have to hold it in.

Chaser
July 8th, 2008, 12:52 PM
Cats = Litter.....at least this was pretty much my understanding of how it usually works. :rolleyes:

What an idiot. Also e-mailed my :2cents:

phoozles
July 8th, 2008, 01:21 PM
:frustrated:

CyberKitten
July 8th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Plus. toilet training is NOT all that healthy for cats. These ppl are idiots- and I rarely and THAT unkind. Gawd, some ppl are unbelievable!

Dracko
July 8th, 2008, 10:23 PM
What I think is sad is cats really love to dig and cover things. It is in their instinct. Sad these ones are forced to miss that.

AG I agree with what you said about them maybe falling in. How'd u like to come home one day and find your cat in the bowl cuz for some reason it couldn't get out. :eek: Plus, I'm sure you'd end up cleaning up poop that doesn't fall off right or pee that is aimed wrong at time.

ancientgirl
July 9th, 2008, 07:48 AM
Here's something really sad to think about too. What happens when her present cats that are using the toilet get older and it's harder for them to jump up on the toilet seat? They won't be able to jump up there or won't even want to because it's too much trouble for an old kitty. They will probably start going elsewhere, so then there will be the problem with those cats not using the toilet.

Is she going to give them away too?:sad:

ancientgirl
July 9th, 2008, 12:35 PM
I thought you guys might find this interesting.

This person emailed me back:

----- Original Message ----
From: Chantel *** <tilly***@yahoo.ca>
To: nurivamp@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 5:43:57 PM
Subject: Re: Reply to your "White, med-length hair, beautiful odd-eyed female cat for sale" Ad on Kijiji

You're just jealous that you can't have her biotch! And don't think I don't know who you are!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Um...okay whatever. She may or may not know who I am. Perhaps she knows me from the internet, who knows. I could care less. I wrote her back:

Yeah, what happens when your other cats get old and can't use the toilet. You gonna toss them away too?

No I"m not jealous. I feel sorry for her that just because her owner is too concerned about getting her hands dirty with a litter box she's being tossed away. You've had her since she was a tiny thing, and because she doesn't use the litter box (which btw, burying is an instinct in cats) you are so quick to give her up.

Yeah, okay you know who I am. Who am I? Someone who is obviously a little more compassionate than you.

Whatever, it's your conscience and you're going to have to live with it.


:rolleyes: I'm not going back and forth with this person. I've said my peace and I'm done with it.

Jim Hall
July 9th, 2008, 12:51 PM
well my cats wont go get a job t support thier food habit can i get rid of em?


and whats the big deal about a litter box i mean it takes all of 2 minutes

Chaser
July 9th, 2008, 01:06 PM
This person emailed me back

Yeah....I didn't exactly give my real e-mail :o I can't even imagine what she would have said back to me though.....From her response to you though AG it seems clear she has absolutely no justification for her actions.

Poor kitty :sad: I'm at least glad it will be getting away from her though. :fingerscr it finds a good home....

And Jim - that was too funny! :laughing:

ancientgirl
July 9th, 2008, 01:19 PM
I use that email for my junk stuff so it's no big deal. Whatever, she has to know what she's doing isn't right, at least I'd hope she does. Not to mention, I'd like to think she got a lot of responses like ours.

Jim, I've got 5 loafers too.:laughing:

I've got 3 boxes, It takes me less than 5 minutes to clean them all out well. 5 minutes out of a 24 hour day. Hmmm...that's too much!:eek::rolleyes:

14+kitties
July 9th, 2008, 01:26 PM
Jim, I've got 5 loafers too.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Don't think I'm even going there!

I really hope this poor kitty finds a new home. They sure don't deserve it.

TacoGrl
July 9th, 2008, 02:44 PM
It's funny, the other day, Mooki was curled up on the sofa and I was watching her (I do a lot of that :lovestruck: lately)...anywho, I thought what a perfect colour match she was for my furniture and then laughed because I was thinking that. LOL!

I say this because it certainly was not a reason I picked her how many years ago (didn't even have my furniture then), but there are people who do pick pets that way...sadly. These little ******* with their designer pets that HAVE to fit in a certain way or they are cast off...like the men in their lives...it is very sad. We need better role models for the young folks now days.

Schwinn
July 9th, 2008, 09:52 PM
I considered trying to toilet train Vlad when I first got him.

I think it'd be easy...just train him to read first, then he'd go in the bathroom all the time!

I'm actually not outraged by this. To be honest, I'm trying to think if there's a way to get her to "get rid" of all her animals, because this moron doesn't deserve pets.

growler~GateKeeper
July 9th, 2008, 10:54 PM
You'll notice the :loser: has now changed the ad :rolleyes: If this person has such a problem with scooping the litter box why won't she give the scoop, litter & box along with the cat? :shrug:

Her name is Jasmin. Supposedly, she's an odd-eyed american short-hair mixed with Turkish Angora. Unfortunately we have to give her away, because we are moving to a place that doesn't allow pets, and there aren't any other options. .......
........... Her harness, leash, a couple toys, and her food dish would be included. You would just need a litterbox, scooper and water dish, food and litter. .......
............Finally, I love her very much, so I'm not just going to sell her to just anyone. I have to make sure she goes to a good home.

Chaser
July 9th, 2008, 11:25 PM
:wall::wall::wall:

:laughing: Don;t you just want to shake some people? The stupidity is astounding.....

And interesting point about the litter growler - can't imagine why on earth she wants to keep it!

Dracko
July 10th, 2008, 12:13 AM
After she got a few nasty emails I figured she would change the ad. What a complete loser and good comment about the litter box. She doesn't want one but no one else can have it.

ancientgirl
July 10th, 2008, 08:08 AM
OMG, what an a-hole! Yeah, after her leaving me that "i know who you are" email, I figured, big deal, like I'm the only one to call her on her insensitivity? That's a "dumb-tough" right there.:loser:

Jim Hall
July 10th, 2008, 08:32 AM
free to a good home one cat that doesnt match my new carpet and the vet says i cant dye my cat

Love4himies
July 10th, 2008, 08:44 AM
You know people in Saskatoon, AG?:rolleyes: what a :loser:. Didn't this person advertise they have several cats? If they are moving to a place that doesn't allow pets, what is she going to do with the others?:mad:

ancientgirl
July 10th, 2008, 09:12 AM
You know people in Saskatoon, AG?:rolleyes: what a :loser:. Didn't this person advertise they have several cats? If they are moving to a place that doesn't allow pets, what is she going to do with the others?:mad:

Hey I get around!;)

This person is so stupid she thinks changing the wording is going to take away from what she's doing, which she obviously knows is WRONG! If I remember correctly she had 4. I guess she's giving the other ones too?:rolleyes:

Joeyjoejoe
July 10th, 2008, 09:34 AM
Google cached the original post. Click here (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:o4JlfW36rfsJ:saskatoon.kijiji.ca/c-pets-cats-kittens-for-sale-White-med-length-hair-odd-eyed-female-cat-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ52308622+%22White+med+length+hair+beautif ul+odd+eyed+female+cat+for+sale%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca&client=firefox-a) if you want to see it.

Love4himies
July 10th, 2008, 09:44 AM
Thanks, Joeyjoejoe, she does have more than one cat, so if she is moving what is she going to do with the others?

ancientgirl
July 10th, 2008, 09:46 AM
I really doubt she's actually moving. I think she's just looking for a "better" excuse. Something that won't make her sound like the cold-hearted nut she is.

TacoGrl
July 10th, 2008, 10:09 AM
I really doubt she's actually moving. I think she's just looking for a "better" excuse. Something that won't make her sound like the cold-hearted nut she is.


"cold-hearted nut"...I like that phrase...sums up sooooo many people out there.

yettiyodamarlo
July 11th, 2008, 09:46 AM
Ridiculous.

Good point made about giving away the litterbox.

Some people make me so irritated. Cleaning after your cat's potty is not considered horrendous, streneous or even unexpected extra work. It's a standard expectation and takes me like 5 minutes for two cats. BIG DEAL. Woman. Real cats make real poo. DEAL WITH IT. :loser:

katherine93
July 11th, 2008, 10:07 AM
I wrote a very strongly worded email to this loser. I told him about how many litter boxes and cages and even kennels i have to clean out everyday! I told how i even have to clean out a horse stall. And them rambled on about how big of a loser he/she is for giving her away like this. :wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall: STUPID PEOPLE!!!! GRRRR

katherine93
July 11th, 2008, 10:56 AM
Her response- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:40:33 -0700
From: tillytails@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: Reply to your "Jasmin - white cat for sale :(" Ad on Kijiji
To: hyper_girl.xo@hotmail.com

Little girl, before you let your emotions take over, use your sense and realize that I'm giving her to a better home. Plus you're house is probably a pig-sty. Plus, you sound like a little townie-farm girl, so I doubt you choose to muck stalls and scoop litter, your parents probably force you. I grew up on a farm also, so I know what it's like. You have no choice until you're 16. Your parents had you for the sake of using you to share in their responsibilities. Stand up to them! I did!



My response to that -My house is far from a pig sty. Im not a little farm girl either, Did you see the fact that my mom is a Vet, do you know how much money they make? Even IF we didnt clean our house (which we do) We could just hire somebody to do it, but WE have enough sense to do it oursleves.We are what people call responsible pet owners,Where as you are what people call a loser, whom is to lazy to get off your ass to do anything. My parents dont force me to do anything, I do it because i want to, and im not a lazy son of a bitch like you. Just to make it clear, i do NOT live on a farm, I have no Farm house, My horse is kept in a Shed like barn, I do have ALOT of land, But it is well kept, and you cant even tell We have any animals. Most FArm girls dont wear clothes like abercrombie and fitch, and hollister, american eagle etc. Not saying there is anything wrong wiith living on a farm, because there isnt anything wrong with it! It is MY choice to do what i do, not my parents. And if my mom, saw what you said abnout them having me to share the responsibilites, she would kick your bitch ass. Hunni, You have serious issues with your parents, and it doesnt take a theropist to point that out, just becasue you may have had a **** lfe,doesnt mean everybody else do.





-Sorry its kinda all over the place with my opinions cause at this point my blood was boiling, and UGHHHH , I may have been a little rude, buuuut..What can ya do?

Love4himies
July 11th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Why can't her home be the "better home" does she realize that she isn't a good furkid mom???

:offtopic: BTW, how are you feeling today, katherine93????:D

katherine93
July 11th, 2008, 11:22 AM
Why can't her home be the "better home" does she realize that she isn't a good furkid mom???

:offtopic: BTW, how are you feeling today, katherine93????:D

My point exactly Love4himies!

:offtopic: Im not feeling to bad, A little sick, and my neck is stiff from sleeping on my friends front porch! lol:o
Thanks for asking!

ancientgirl
July 11th, 2008, 12:08 PM
Katherine, yeah she's big on responding back to people calling her out. I got a nasty response back too, LOL, she even tried to scare me and tell me she knew who I was. Big deal! If she does or if she doesn't I could care less. I've never tried to sell my cats on the internet because I'm too lazy to clean up their litter.:loser:

katherine93
July 11th, 2008, 12:14 PM
I got an even nastier response back after that one, She threatened to charge me? I emailed her back and said that any judge would laugh in her face for trying to charge me for expressing my opinion,than i told her that she was a waste of my time and i wasnt going to respond to her again, so she didnt respond after that..lol

I feel so sorry for her poor kitties.:sad::wall:

ancientgirl
July 11th, 2008, 12:21 PM
What the heck was she going to charge you with? I think she needs a refill on her medication.

katherine93
July 11th, 2008, 12:24 PM
I know? I didnt do anything wrong? Either she needs a fefill, or she needs to stop taking so many!

Dracko
July 11th, 2008, 01:12 PM
Here is the b*tches ad now as it reads now:

There is no longer an ad here because of all of the rude, harrassing, and immature hate-mail I've been getting. I'm wary to give my cat to anyone on here, b/c there are many fakes. If people really cared, they'd realize that I'm on here to give her away to a good home, rather than dropping her off at SPCA(which is not a good alternative). It's my business WHY I want to give her away, so pee off! So thanks to all of the haters, now I have to give her away on another site.

ancientgirl
July 11th, 2008, 01:28 PM
So she's angry because she's been basically told by quite a few people that giving your cat way because it won't use the toilet is wrong. I'd be curious to see what her ad looks like on those "other sites."

I wonder, when you surrender an animal do you say why you are surrendering it? Can you imagine working at the SPCA and having someone bring in their cat because it won't use your toilet?

ancientgirl
July 11th, 2008, 02:14 PM
Here is the b*tches ad now as it reads now:

There is no longer an ad here because of all of the rude, harrassing, and immature hate-mail I've been getting. I'm wary to give my cat to anyone on here, b/c there are many fakes. If people really cared, they'd realize that I'm on here to give her away to a good home, rather than dropping her off at SPCA(which is not a good alternative). It's my business WHY I want to give her away, so pee off! So thanks to all of the haters, now I have to give her away on another site.

I didn't think this person would write me again. I'd already forgotten what I even wrote to her but look at the 3 emails she sent me.

This was my last reply to her. I figured, okay I won't hear from this person again. I pretty much closed the conversation:

Yeah, what happens when your other cats get old and can't use the toilet. You gonna toss them away too?

No I"m not jealous. I feel sorry for her that just because her owner is too concerned about getting her hands dirty with a litter box she's being tossed away. You've had her since she was a tiny thing, and because she doesn't use the litter box (which btw, burying is an instinct in cats) you are so quick to give her up.

Yeah, okay you know who I am. Who am I? Someone who is obviously a little more compassionate than you.

Whatever, it's your conscience and you're going to have to live with it.

Here are the 3 emails she sent me.

4 years is not old. Cats live until they're 20. That's not why she doesn't use the toilet. She pees in the toilet, but poops on the floor. How would you feel cleaning warm, wet, and stinky **** off of the floor. Plus, if you're so compassionate, you'd realize that I want to give her to a better home, and you'd leave me alone.


Plus, what would I have to live with? Knowing I gave her to abetter home? Once she's gone, I don't know anything about her anymore, so my conscience will not suffer. Plus if you care so much, why did you not offer to take her? You know I could have just paid $40 to drop her off at the SPCA, but then there is a possibility they would put her down. So please learn to look at things subjectively, and think more critically. Maybe you could use a few classes at the UofS(stands for University of Saskatchewan).

Plus, humans and cats are dissimilar in the fact that humans need to be nurtured by mothers, and cats don't. They can be loved by anyone. They don't form human attachments, they form property attachments. In other words, they forget.


I basically asked her why she felt the need to justify herself to me, a stranger. Then I asked her to feel free to stop emailing me since it didn't matter what her excuse was and I hoped her cat found a wonderful home, far away from her and her toilet.

Dracko
July 11th, 2008, 05:30 PM
They don't form human attachments, they form property attachments. In other words, they forget.

Holy **** is she deluding herself. It's all about justifying so she feels better about her excuse for tossing an animal.

When you give an animal away you have no guarantee they will be treated well. Nor, even if it is a great home that the animal will adjust and feel comfortable.

I almost feel like emailing her and being nice so I can go meet her and the cats and give her a piece of my mind once I see her.

She is obviously very immature cuz if I received emails like she did I would not have replied like that. At least we pissed her off and probably ruined her day. Her cats at least deserve that. :thumbs up