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Why is animal abuse not taken seriously

wolfcat
July 4th, 2008, 09:25 PM
Animal Abuse is NOT a Holiday Prank :frustrated: :ca:

Toronto CTV news reported a story on air and online July 2, 2008 about a cat that had been doused with kerosene by person or persons unknown in Toronto’s east end.

While this despicable act is terrible in itself, the way the media and Toronto Police characterized this crime as a “holiday prank” is absolutely inappropriate. I also think that Toronto Police discouraging the owner who was going door to door to warn others of this clear case of animal abuse by saying that she might encounter the perpetrator(s) was wrong as well.

A prank can be defined as “a mischievous trick or practical joke”. The criminal act of the perpetrator(s) is not a simple incidence of mischief, but is a crime, and should have been treated as such. Police and media not only should be aware of the stronger new animal protection legislation from both Ottawa and Queens’ Park, but also that animal abuse is abhorrent to Canadian society in general, given the many stories already reported on the subject.

My complaint to both CTV and Toronto Police so far seem to have fallen on deaf ears. No retraction or correction has appeared in any media :wall:

I am alarmed that when I did a google search to find "cat doused in kerosene" I came across way too many stories on exactly this in the last few years. :cry:

What can we do to get police and media to take it more seriously?

Frenchy
July 4th, 2008, 09:51 PM
What can we do to get police and media to take it more seriously?

I think the only thing you can do is to get more people to write a complaint.

Animals are still treated as furnitures ... :mad:

krdahmer
July 4th, 2008, 11:03 PM
A dog was tossed off an overpass here on Canada day.... the paper however portrayed it as the abuse it was, the dog is ok and only suffered a fat lip... very lucky :dog:!

I think I actually get angrier at the media when they make light of such a heiness act than at the act itself. Playing it off as a prank makes it sound fun to twisted individuals. The only thing that keeps me from weeping for days after hearing these stories is my belief that one day all these :evil::censored: are getting what's coming to them. :pray:

wolfcat
July 5th, 2008, 12:29 AM
Re: > Cat doused with kerosene in holiday prank: police
Updated: Wed Jul. 02 2008 6:49:37 PM

ctvtoronto.ca
Toronto police think a cat was doused with a flammable liquid in the city's east end in a Canada Day prank.
The owner of the 12-year-old feline said she was shocked when she found her pet Leo.
"His eyes were sealed together, his hair was sticking up in tufts," Liba Berry told CTV Toronto.
Berry rushed Leo to the Kingston Road Animal Hospital, where the cat had to be bathed three times to remove the kerosene.
Dr. Morris Samson, a veterinary surgeon, said even a small amount of kerosene inhaled by a cat could trigger pneumonia.
"Which means fluid will collect around the chest and the pet could die," Samson said.
Police believe Leo was able to run away before her attackers were able to light her on fire.
Berry, meanwhile, is going door-to-door telling residents in her neighbourhood about the incident.
Police have warned her to be careful, saying she may encounter Leo's attackers in the process.
With a report from CTV Toronto's Brad Giffen <

:pray: Please let Toronto Police and ctv.ca know how you feel about their downplaying the crime.
TORONTO POLICE RESPONSE: ,

Thank you for contacting the Toronto Police Service.

Your comments and concerns regarding the animal cruelty investigation are well taken. I am making all efforts to determine if it was the Toronto Police Service making those comments. The necessary steps will be taken to ensure that this is dealt with.

Thank you for bring this to my attention.

Constable Wendy Drummond
Toronto Police Service
Public Information
416-808-7090
wendy.drummond@torontopolice.on.ca

mona_b
July 5th, 2008, 09:25 AM
I also think that Toronto Police discouraging the owner who was going door to door to warn others of this clear case of animal abuse by saying that she might encounter the perpetrator(s) was wrong as well.

I'm sorry,but I find nothing wrong with this comment.The Police are just warning her to be careful.They did not say don't do it.They are trying to protect her from being harmed.Who knows what this person/s are capable of doing.


They know this is abuse.But the comment about it being a Canada Day "prank" was more then likely said because of it being done on Canada Day.

I totaly understand what you are saying.I really do.And what happened to this cat disturbs me also.But if they do catch this person/s,they will be charged for cruelty,not for a prank.

This is another good reason to keep your cats indoors.You know why?I'm so sick and tired of seeing these poor animals crushed on the road.

I was in T.O for a couple of days to see my dad(I was born and raised in T.O).Walking down the street there was a beautiful Tabby with a pink collar laying dead at the side of the road.I walked on his street and guess what?Another dead kitty on the road.This one was a Siamese with a red collar.:cry::cry:......

This is not the first time I have seen this.I see it alot.:cry:

Frenchy
July 5th, 2008, 10:00 AM
This is another good reason to keep your cats indoors.You know why?I'm so sick and tired of seeing these poor animals crushed on the road.



I'm sick of this too , there's a lot of farms in my area , I don't know how many times I've seen cats and even kittens , dead by the side of the road. :frustrated: I would think they could at least , keep them in barns. :wall:

badger
July 5th, 2008, 10:38 AM
Mona, I totally see your point.
Maybe the owner was so agitated (as we all would be) that she wasn't functioning all that well. But at the same time, don't you think the police themselves have a responsibility to quietly warn the neighbours, or enough of them to get the word out? Wouldn't that come under 'community awareness'?

mona_b
July 5th, 2008, 12:18 PM
Badger,I know what your saying.But to be honest,this is an iceolated case.And I know this may seem a little harsh,but the police actually don't have to go door to door.There is only so much they can do in certain situations.The spca/HS cruelty protecion officers should be involved.

I'm sure the owner knows her neighbors.Maybe someone saw something.



I hear you frency.Unfortunately it's hard to keep the little buggers in there.:rolleyes:

My sister keeps inheriting them.They stay for a bit then leave.It's a lodging place for cats..:D

mona_b
July 6th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Secondly- it is about resources and manpower. The police and spca due not have enough resources and funding. Animal abuse is on the list of low priorities when it comes to drugs and murders ect..

I really wouldn't say it was on a low list of priorities.Drugs,murders,child abouse,spousel abuse,drugs,shootings,child pornogrophy...THIS is what the police are trained for.

It's the OSPCA cruelty protection officers who are trained for animal abuse.They actually have the rights as police to charge people.

mona_b
July 6th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Here in Ontario it's different....The police are for the people,and the ospca is for the pets...:)

wolfcat
July 7th, 2008, 07:44 AM
Problem is - the OSPCA are terribly understaffed, and they have a wide range of responsibility (puppy mills, farm animals, wildlife, etc). Besides, there is the highly publicized case of Tre Smith of Toronto Humane who almost lost his job because he did his duty recuing a dog locked in a car with heat exhaustion. The debate on this really put fear into animal protection officers about charging people.

The comment about community services is a valid one. Toronto Police had a whopping increase to their budget to do just that.

When someone poisoned a dog in High Park, the media and police were all over it, and there was no discouraging the owners to find out who was responsible. In the end, they broke the case.

Sadly, I find that the many rescue and humane groups in Toronto each do their own thing and don't seem to network on issues like this. Understandable, since animal welfare is pretty much left up to volunteers - still... ?

mona_b
July 7th, 2008, 08:23 AM
When someone poisoned a dog in High Park, the media and police were all over it, and there was no discouraging the owners to find out who was responsible. In the end, they broke the case.


So true.But this was in a public place.And there were quite a few dogs that got sick.The poison was spread around.:sad:They were also concerned about the children too.You know how kids love to pick up things and put things in their mouth.In cases like this,you rarely find the person or persons who did it.And if I recall,they didn't find the person/s..Correct me if I'm wrong,but this happened in another dog park.They never found that person/s either.

Handsome Tre is back on the job.:)..With Tre,I don't think it was much about the charging part as it was to him handcuffing this owner and a couple of people ruffing him up for locking the dog.Just my thinking.

Love4himies
July 7th, 2008, 08:28 AM
Handsome Tre is back on the job.:)..With Tre,I don't think it was much about the charging part as it was to him handcuffing this owner and a couple of people ruffing him up for locking the dog.Just my thinking.

You are right, it was the handcuffing and leaving him there while he rushed the dog to a vet that was the issue.

Tre is still a hero in my eyes.:lovestruck:

mona_b
July 7th, 2008, 10:26 AM
Mine too.;)


The comment about community services is a valid one. Toronto Police had a whopping increase to their budget to do just that.

It sure is a valid one.BUT the meaning of community service is just that.It's about the community.And having people feel safe enough to talk to them.And also they are there to protect the community in regards to the crimes around them.They have volunteers who also help out.And to educate.The list goes on...:)

allmywebsite1
July 7th, 2008, 10:39 AM
bcoz people treat animal as animal not like a family member

chico2
July 9th, 2008, 04:29 PM
I saw the story about that poor cat and the kerosene on the news.
Of course I blame the evil people who could do something like that.
But the owner holding her beautiful Calico-Kitty is also to blame,she was let out on a night with fire-works,drunks celebrating etc..
I wish people could understand,especially in a city area that it's not safe for little cats,this little Calico was lucky,but you see them every day,outside on their own,easy pray for any crazies and cars on the road.
I would not sleep a wink,if any of my cats were not inside and safe,I love them too much to ever expose them to anything evil:cat:

TacoGrl
July 9th, 2008, 05:41 PM
We have had a few high profile cases here over the past few years...the courts seem to be changing to consider animals a part of the family and not chattle (sp?). My Mooki is a part of my family, because she lives in our home...the cats roaming the streets don't appear to be part of anyone's family or they would be inside a home...I worry about them too...

As I (and others) have said before...there is something dreadfully wrong with someone who does not like/respect animals and their deeds should be VERY scrutinized.

yettiyodamarlo
July 11th, 2008, 12:49 AM
I agree with you that classifying it as a 'prank' or 'joke' is so inappropriate it's almost... vile.

Not to be graphic here, but if someone lit a human on fire would police be pondering on whether it's a holiday prank?

I actually am *disgusted* to say I have recently found out that an animal abuser used to live up MY ROAD. He used to torch cats and dogs, getting them off peoples yards, or finding strays. Police could not find him.

It's extremely sad and nauseating that this is a widespread problem. I had no idea! I thought he was the only creep of them all.