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is it possible my dog is part wolf?

kigndano
June 21st, 2008, 08:34 PM
just a thought that has crossed my mind lately, he doesnt really look like the malamute standard at all. he looks more like a husky, but is much bigger. could he be a wolf/husky mix?

katherine93
June 21st, 2008, 08:43 PM
My brother had a malamute/wolf cross when he lived in BC..So its possible...But by the looks of your dog, vey unlikely. His eyes would be much different as well as his jaw structure...

aslan
June 21st, 2008, 08:46 PM
Thats not true Katherine, i've owned 3 wolf x's and two had dogs eyes not wolf. And i know for sure they all had wolf because i knew the mothers of all. Remember there are 2 parents involved. A wolf cross could have any of the wolf features, longer muzzle, longer legs, the eyes, ears, etc, etc.

kigndano
June 21st, 2008, 08:56 PM
i mean i got "certified pedigree" papers when i got him from the doggy store (i know they arent the place to get dogs, for reasons like this, but i was uninformed)

he just doesnt look like the mal pics i see in dog breed books and whatnot.


although on wikipedia there is this picture...

aslan
June 21st, 2008, 08:57 PM
i know you've said but i don't recall, how old is he, they do take some time to fill out and grow in thier heavy coat.

kigndano
June 21st, 2008, 08:57 PM
DOB is given as 2/11/07 on his certificate.

1 yr 4 months then.

katherine93
June 21st, 2008, 09:01 PM
Oh my, a doggy store. Almost every animal in these stores are not really purebreds(from what ive heard anyways). He could be crossed with anynumber of things. With he may just not be up to breed standard if he is purebred. I mean, There is a dog in my community that is purebred lab (Uneducated breeder), Hes about 400 lbs. And almost as tall as a small great dane. breeders that are just in it for the money ussually do not resarch genetics or even think about what the pup should grow to be like..Even that being the case. YOu love your pup right? So it shouuldnt REALLy matter what breed he is, I know it is nice to know these things.but

aslan
June 21st, 2008, 09:01 PM
sooooo ummmm, this is why you don't buy from pet stores. He does look more siberian, than malamute, but the markings are right. He could be a cross of those two, or he could be poor quality pure bred. He doesn't look broad enough or thick enough for a malamute does he. He is some handsome tho.

kigndano
June 21st, 2008, 09:15 PM
like i said, i know that now. so beating the dead horse isnt necessary

im just trying to figure out what he actually is, because it def doesnt seem like a purebred mal.

aslan
June 21st, 2008, 09:18 PM
unfortunately the only way to find out for sure is to have blood tests done. I know luckypenny knows how to go about it, prices and all. Not 100% guaranteed tho.

katherine93
June 21st, 2008, 09:19 PM
like i said before, he may be purebred mal he could just not be up to breed standard. It happens all the time. My grandma breeds mals, and she has dealt with alot of other breeders that dont care about what the pups are goin gto turn out to look like and they are just in it for the money. Hers are always like mals should be. But the other peoples pups turn out to look like sibes...and mal mixxes.

Chaser
June 21st, 2008, 10:23 PM
Is there anything behavioural that makes you think this? My boyfriend used to have a dog that was part wolf who would dump mouthfuls of water on her food and let it rot for 3 days before eating it (I suppose any dog could do this...but it seems a bit primal to me at least).

rainbow
June 21st, 2008, 11:55 PM
I've always thought he looked like a siberian husky/malamute cross.

kigndano
June 22nd, 2008, 11:35 AM
i suppose the mal/husky mix is possible.

i just thought that since it was a mix the size would be in the middle, but he weighs 85 pounds already. that may just be me being naive to the subject of mixing breeds and what the results are...what traits are mixed or whatever.

he does have more of the husky head though i think, which is why i thought maybe husky/wolf for the size, but husky/mal makes sense also.

either way hes got the pulling instinct in him so the weight pulling will be great for him.

kigndano
June 22nd, 2008, 11:38 AM
nothing behavioral makes me think wolf except that hes very pack oriented, doesnt listen to new people, i always have to intervene and tell him to do what they do in order for him to listen. but thats said of mals and huskies too i think.

hes not skittish of people like wolves are or anything though, just been looking at weight pulling stuff, and mals are pretty big in it, and i noticed that he doesnt really look like a lot of them.

LavenderRott
June 22nd, 2008, 12:36 PM
Oh my, a doggy store. Almost every animal in these stores are not really purebreds(from what ive heard anyways). He could be crossed with anynumber of things. With he may just not be up to breed standard if he is purebred. I mean, There is a dog in my community that is purebred lab (Uneducated breeder), Hes about 400 lbs. And almost as tall as a small great dane. breeders that are just in it for the money ussually do not resarch genetics or even think about what the pup should grow to be like..Even that being the case. YOu love your pup right? So it shouuldnt REALLy matter what breed he is, I know it is nice to know these things.but

Katherine - the average weight of a Great Dane is between 130 and 150 pounds. In order for a lab to weigh 400 pounds it would have to be the size of a shetland pony or a large adult male black bear.

Kigndano - your dog is most likely a purebed but if you got him from a pet store, you can guarantee that he doesn't come close to meeting the breed standard.

Sabine
June 22nd, 2008, 02:06 PM
Why don't you have a DNA test done ? ;)

poodletalk
June 22nd, 2008, 04:27 PM
The markings on your dog, is very similar to my dog markings which is a husky mix.

mollywog
June 22nd, 2008, 04:32 PM
My parents have a Mal mix. we don't know what kind of mix because he showed up as a stray, but now at age 13 he weighs around 90 lbs. At his peak he weighed about 100. Your dog has the same body colourings as a Mal, but his head almost looks like it has some German Shepard in it!? just my :2cents:

katherine93
June 22nd, 2008, 06:25 PM
Katherine - the average weight of a Great Dane is between 130 and 150 pounds. In order for a lab to weigh 400 pounds it would have to be the size of a shetland pony or a large adult male black bear.
when i compared him to a great dane i meant that he was way taller than breed standard, and i dont know his weight i was obviously over exadurating.Just trying to make it known that he is FAT!!! and even with alot of excersice/A good diet he is still fat its some sort of hereditary(spelled?) medical condition causeing him to be overweight.

angeldogs
June 22nd, 2008, 07:10 PM
unfortunately the only way to find out for sure is to have blood tests done. I know luckypenny knows how to go about it, prices and all. Not 100% guaranteed tho.

Thats the way to find out.I had doubts about Jag being pet store pup.(no i didn't buy him.my friend did).i mentioned it to my vet and had the blood test done for the nuturing.and when i picked him up they said he was purebred by the blood test.wasn't charged any extra so maybe talk to your vet and see what a blood test would cost.

pitgrrl
June 22nd, 2008, 07:40 PM
Before shelling out the money for a DNA test, ya might want to watch this (or just watch it because it's funny).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4CDvK868w

Stacer
June 24th, 2008, 04:50 PM
He sure is handsome whatever he is!

TMac
June 25th, 2008, 09:56 PM
I think he looks like an adorable Mal/Husky mix! He sure is sweet. :goodvibes:

Malahoot
July 26th, 2008, 11:01 AM
Having done both wolf dog & Malamute Rescue I see no wolf in your dog....I do see a poorly bred (although very cute!) Malamute. Pet stores don't pay much attention to "standards". I've even had someone present me with their very blue eyed Siberian Puppy and claim it WAS a Malamute cause the papers said so :loser:

Just cause he does not look quite right now doesn't mean he is not a PB Malamute. Depending on the lines they grown for a long time...up to 3 years :) They are usually full height at 1 y/o or so but can still look like a gangly teen until they are all filled out.

kigndano
July 26th, 2008, 11:54 AM
thanks malahoot

hne just looks so dang gangly right now i wasnt sure, and i had always heard "full maturity" in body by 1 yr.

he is quite tall though

Malahoot
July 26th, 2008, 12:02 PM
thanks malahoot

hne just looks so dang gangly right now i wasnt sure, and i had always heard "full maturity" in body by 1 yr.



That's incorrect, full height at about a year yes but depending on the lines they fill out a lot up to 3 y/o.

Gangly is pretty normal phase in that 9 mth to 2y period...give or take depending on the lines.

Malahoot
July 26th, 2008, 12:06 PM
Was just looking at his pics again...the Malamute in my avatar (who is now 11 y/o)...looked just like your boy when she was a youngster :)

Dekka
July 26th, 2008, 03:23 PM
First off just cause your dog doesn't look like the conformation ring winner does not mean it is part something else. This is a VERY well bred JRT. Looks more like a badly bred Chi, doesn't she? Her sire is a big winner in the conformation ring, a top hunting dog and is a producer of top conformation winners and hunting dogs.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd125/Grey-Run/scandal.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd125/Grey-Run/Whatdidyousay.jpg

While those DNA test are often pretty ridiculous and very very unreliable. (I am a forensic Biotechnologist.. and am going into molecular bio so this is my bailiwick) you likely can test to see if there is a species difference.

Hayashi
August 30th, 2011, 09:52 PM
Did you ever find out exactly what your dog is? I'm just curious because he looks like an almost perfect twin to my german shepherd / husky mix.

Choochi
August 31st, 2011, 09:25 AM
I think the odds are highest and it is most probable that your dog is a husky/malamute, I wouldn't trust the paper work you got from the pet store.

A mix of the two doesn't necessarily mean the offsprings have to be right in the middle size wise. I know two litter mates that are husky/mal/lab and one is short and stocky maybe 60lbs and looks mostly like chubby husky, her brother is very tall over 100lbs with the curly tail and looks very much like a malamute only not quite as puffy and with a bit of yellow in him.

I wouldn't bother wasting money on a DNA test, love your dog for who he is.

kigndano
September 10th, 2011, 08:28 AM
wow, this is such an old thread i made!

i havent found out officially what he is, but he sure acts like a malamute - the woo woo and howling at ambulances...hes also filled out a good bit.

if i had to guess - id say husky/mal mix - the coloring/face masking seem very husky-like, but he has lots of malamute mannerisms etc.

hes a cool dog though, and now that hes not a complete demon-spawn to walk and he actually (sometimes) listens and behaves (sometimes) things have been like 95% good 5% bad which is as good as anyone can hope for with a dog i think.

Sylvie
September 10th, 2011, 08:57 AM
He is so beautiful.

His face reminds me of my girl, she is husky cross. Shadow is also beautiful :D

I am so glad you are now able to enjoy your walks with him. I remember the devil he was. :laughing:

It is nice to see you back.

hazelrunpack
September 10th, 2011, 09:29 AM
Wow! So handsome all grown up! :flirt: Glad to hear he's mellowed some since his tumultuous puppy years. :D

kigndano
September 10th, 2011, 10:05 AM
Wow! So handsome all grown up! :flirt: Glad to hear he's mellowed some since his tumultuous puppy years. :D

some being the key word there.

he still has his moments...

but they are nostalgic, in a sick/twisted sort of way.

luckily he has less energy, so i can ride the wave and not have a loose dog or a huge hole in the lawn.

DMCWLVSSR
September 11th, 2011, 07:52 PM
What a handsome boy he is

pattymac
September 11th, 2011, 10:48 PM
He is very handsome!! Love the husky breeds, mine is half with GSD. I don't know if I'd take on a full blooded Husky or Malamute!!!

kigndano
September 14th, 2011, 09:51 AM
He is very handsome!! Love the husky breeds, mine is half with GSD. I don't know if I'd take on a full blooded Husky or Malamute!!!

they are a handful for sure

super strong, super energetic and very strong willed mentally.

for a first dog (which he is for me) i think the phrase "trial by fire" applies.

at this point though, if i get a second dog when i buy a house this year it should be a piece of cake to deal with a golden, right?

Floppy Dog
September 16th, 2011, 06:29 PM
Don't bet on it! The golden's I've met are all high maintenance and high strung!

Koteburo
September 17th, 2011, 06:18 AM
Gah! That doggy is so beautiful it gave me a cuteness overload

kigndano
September 18th, 2011, 07:23 AM
Don't bet on it! The golden's I've met are all high maintenance and high strung!

good advice...prejudice failing as usual

:D

Gah! That doggy is so beautiful it gave me a cuteness overload

lol

kigndano
September 18th, 2011, 07:46 AM
after reading this...

http://www.alaskanmalamutes.fr/Alaskan-Malamute-the-different-types

i can def see him being a purebred.

lots of similarly colored dogs...

interesting the variety of look in the breed.

Digston
September 18th, 2011, 09:12 PM
Hate to point out the obvious fact that no one has yet to mention... Of course its possible your dog is part wolf! It descended from wolves!

k-9crazy
October 29th, 2011, 01:51 PM
Greetings!
I have been following this thread since last summer as I too have a mystery dog. Rescued in July 2011, I was told that my dog is a "collie/shepherd mix". However, just look at him! Does this look like a collie?!! I figure more than likely this is a husky lab mix or possibly and husky shepherd mix. He looks like the previous dog, doesn't he?!! :) He was found in an Ohio ditch with a dislocated hip and brought up to a shelter here in Ontario, Canada. We fixed him up and now he's living "la vita loca!" Great dog. Great personality! :ca:

growler~GateKeeper
October 30th, 2011, 10:31 PM
k-9crazy adorable dog you've got there :) Yes actually I can see why they would think he's got Collie in him, the ears for sure are not typical husky or shep ears, the length of the fur on his back legs especially looks longer than either breed & the fur texture even just from the pic looks Collie-ish. Whatever he is he's lucky to have been rescued & cared for by great people.