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TinaMcq
May 7th, 2008, 04:32 PM
Hi just a question when getting a new puppy when they get there first shots are they not vet checked to? Cause this one ad said first shots but not vet checked and they will refund any money if the vet shows they have medical problems that will cost the new owners more money?

bendyfoot
May 7th, 2008, 04:33 PM
Sometimes breeders get vaccines from the vet and administer the shots themselves. Where is this pup coming from?

TinaMcq
May 7th, 2008, 04:53 PM
someones dog just had a litter the puppies aren't ready yet the first week of June. They are yorkiepoo and shih shue king mix (I know I am spelling it wrong) and they are selling them for 200 dollars each enough to cover the costs of getting there dog fixed and taking care of the litter.

14+kitties
May 7th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Did I miss something? What happened with Skipper? I know he bit your son but......... Are you going to add another puppy to the mix?

TinaMcq
May 7th, 2008, 08:17 PM
No I am not adding another dog since skipper is dog aggressive it won't work. At this time I have skipper in kijiji trying to give him free to a good home no kids no other animals so far no takers and his 10 days are up tomorrow (thursday), I want to keep him however I can't talk my grandmother into it believe me I have been trying its not skippers fault at all, I stressed that to her but she says no and said if you love that dog more then your son then keep it honestly........:shrug:..............I look at the ads on kijiji but i wanted to know about that I think it will be way to soon to add another right now maybe its just me thinking out loud...........

14+kitties
May 7th, 2008, 08:23 PM
Oh please, put him on Petfinders or some other reliable method but he doesn't deserve kijiji. Have you looked at someone to maybe foster him? I don't know how to go about that but there are lots here who do. No animal deserves to be put in kijiji.

luckypenny
May 7th, 2008, 08:37 PM
Please, kijiji is not the most effective way to rehome a loved dog.

Try contacting the Kitchener/Waterloo Humane Society and see if they have any foster homes or if there is any way they may be able to help Skipper. If they are unable to, ask them for a list of Rescues in and surrounding your area. Then ask your grandmother to be patient...that you're trying to do the responsible thing here.

http://www.kwhumane.com/

luckypenny
May 7th, 2008, 08:49 PM
I wanted to add, without sounding offensive so please forgive me if I come across that way. I don't believe you should be considering a new puppy at this time. As you've explained it, I understand that you are dependant on your grandmother. What happens when after a couple of weeks/months, she decides to tell you she doesn't want that one in her home either? In addition, you've mentioned your son played rough with Skipper and didn't listen to you when you told him to stop. Unfortunately, if you don't have control over your son's behavior, do you believe it to be fair to the new pup?

Perhaps one day when you are more stable and independant, and when your son is much older and respects your rules, you might be able to give a winning chance to a puppy who needs a good home.

My best wishes to Skipper. I pray he finds the home he so deserves.

TinaMcq
May 8th, 2008, 05:52 AM
I am not getting a new puppy I would like to but I am not right now, I was just reading the ads, and read that one and had a question so I am sorry if it came out that way but I just can't do that right now. And my grandmother is only making me not keep skipper cause of the bitting she said she enjoyed having him there so if I did lets say, she wouldn't just say get rid of it. Plus whats wrong with kijiji?

Love4himies
May 8th, 2008, 09:09 AM
I don't know your situation, Tinamcq and haven't followed all your postings, but have you exhausted all means to retrain/socialise your dog? Dogs are not disposable and unless all avenues have been tried and failed, I disagree with getting rid of your dog.

ancientgirl
May 8th, 2008, 11:05 AM
someones dog just had a litter the puppies aren't ready yet the first week of June. They are yorkiepoo and shih shue king mix (I know I am spelling it wrong) and they are selling them for 200 dollars each enough to cover the costs of getting there dog fixed and taking care of the litter.

So the people who posted this ad want to charge people for a puppy that's a mixed breed just so they can cover getting their own dog fixed which they should have done in the first place? Geez!

angeldogs
May 8th, 2008, 12:55 PM
Please, kijiji is not the most effective way to rehome a loved dog.

Try contacting the Kitchener/Waterloo Humane Society and see if they have any foster homes or if there is any way they may be able to help Skipper. If they are unable to, ask them for a list of Rescues in and surrounding your area. Then ask your grandmother to be patient...that you're trying to do the responsible thing here.

http://www.kwhumane.com/
Kitchener HS will put him down if he shows any aggression if they take him.
If something can be done about his biting would your grandmother allow him to stay if so call the trainer/behaviorist i gave you the phone number too and talk to her.she specializes in aggression and behavioral problems.she does want to help

Elizabeth Ann
May 8th, 2008, 01:46 PM
I once had to re-home a cat. I had met and fell in love with a man that was allergic and we purchased a house together. Poor little Princes was a very good and loving cat and I hated that I had give her up (in hindsight I should have given up the boy, but I digress).

I contacted the Oakville H/S and a rescue group stating that I was not looking to surrender Princes to them but I wanted their help to find her a good and loving home. And I needed to meet and interview the potential new parents myself. My mother and then boyfriend thought that I was crazy. They said that neither the H/S nor the cat rescue would go for it. They were right about the H/S but the cat rescue was more then happy to help.

I met two couples and even saw one couples house. I made my decision and two days later delivered Princes to her new home. I was crying so much on the way home that my now ex had to pull the car over.

Anyways my point is that Kijiji is not a great tool for re-homing animals. I think you would be better off following the above suggestions and contacting some originations in your area to help you with the process. It may even speed things up for you, and there is a better chance your little one will find a very good and loving home.

mastifflover
May 8th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Please do not put the dog on Kijiji and especially for free, unless you are not worried about the dog being abused or used for research. Free to good home is the worst thing you can do. The other thing is the ad sounds like a puppy mill or byb. The shelters and rescues are the place to go why pay someone for a mutt that may have many medical issues. Helping a rescue or shelter dog saves a dog and also gives them money to save more dogs. But honestly I do not think you are ready for the lifetime commitment that is involved in getting a pet. They are not disposable even though people seem to think they are.

TinaMcq
May 8th, 2008, 07:11 PM
I found out even if I found skipper a new home or foster home that if Skipper bit anyone again I still would be liable. Being a single mom I couldn't take a chance on having skipper bit someone and having a huge lawsuit what if skipper bit my son again but much worse? Honestly I love Skipper and I wanted to keep him but I really couldn't take that chance I am sorry if I let people down but sometimes even though the decissions are hard you have to make the right choice and I choose not to put my son in harms way. I could never be sure if Skipper would do that again. I am sorry.

Masha
May 8th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Tina, Please contact a rescue group in your area before you make a decision that you may regret for the rest of your life. I am sure they will be able to help or atleast point you to the right people who can.

Love4himies
May 9th, 2008, 07:43 AM
I found out even if I found skipper a new home or foster home that if Skipper bit anyone again I still would be liable. Being a single mom I couldn't take a chance on having skipper bit someone and having a huge lawsuit what if skipper bit my son again but much worse? Honestly I love Skipper and I wanted to keep him but I really couldn't take that chance I am sorry if I let people down but sometimes even though the decissions are hard you have to make the right choice and I choose not to put my son in harms way. I could never be sure if Skipper would do that again. I am sorry.


I don't believe that, if you have a contract with the new adopter stating skippers biting issues, then the new owners are responsible for the dog's actions, not you. If you hid it from the new adopters, they could sue you for not telling them.

BeagleMum
May 9th, 2008, 07:52 AM
I found out even if I found skipper a new home or foster home that if Skipper bit anyone again I still would be liable.

I have heard that before as well actually but I am not sure how true it is. I will have to look into it and see if that is right.

danaekitty
May 9th, 2008, 01:24 PM
L4H - you asked if Tina had taken any other measures to try to control Skipper - I believe the phrase "one step forward, two steps back" applies well to this dog.

Tina - I'm so sorry that it has come to this I know you tried as hard as you could with Skipper, gave him chances, and you're a good person for adopting him in the first place.

Good luck with finding him a good home.

mastifflover
May 9th, 2008, 01:30 PM
Not true if you sign a surrender form and disclose you everything the new owners become responsible for the dog. If you did not disclose everything then you may be liable

TinaMcq
May 9th, 2008, 11:00 PM
Ty Beaglemom..... I don't know how we got on the topic of Skipper when i just had a simple question about an ad? It was something about having its first shots but not vet checked and I didn't understand how it could get its first shots without being vet checked that's it. I am not getting a new puppy right now I was just looking at the ads.... I unfortantly do not have Skipper anymore I have worked very hard (maybe not as hard as some people would) but I did my best, biting my son wasent' the first time Skipper bit someone he also bit my sister in her hand but we didn't report it, he was sitting on her lap and her dog came over to her, skipper is very protective of anyone he is sitting on so the two dogs got into a fight with my sister stuck in the middle and I know it was my dog that bit her cause she has a Saint Bernard and the bits were way to small for it to be his.....My son is afraid of Skipper and I have to put him first....it breaks my heart when I hear him call me to get him out of his room.... I know its not fair for Skipper but I couldn't do it anymore:sad::sad::sad::sad:

BeagleMum
May 9th, 2008, 11:02 PM
So did you have him put to sleep or did you rehome him?

TinaMcq
May 9th, 2008, 11:08 PM
I had put ads in kijiji (not thinking this was a bad spot) I had almost 400 hits but not one taker, I keeped him for as long as I could. He did get put down, its been a horrible ordeal for all of us...

danaekitty
May 10th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Tina - did you even try petfinder or any other means of rehoming before you put him down? Poor skipper...I can't believe this.

danaekitty
May 10th, 2008, 09:12 AM
Tina - I'm sorry if I sounded harsh before. I know you did everything you could think of for Skipper. It's entirely possible that he would have been put down anyway at a shelter, or he may have bit his new owners. You are very nice to have adopted an older dog in the first place, and I didn't mean to jump down your throat in my above post...I was just caught off guard.

Frenchy
May 10th, 2008, 10:09 PM
he was sitting on her lap and her dog came over to her, skipper is very protective of anyone he is sitting on so the two dogs got into a fight with my sister stuck in the middle

:confused: first of all , very bad idea to have put him on her lap , this was a disaster waiting to happen. Your dog didn't bit her intentionaly , she got bit because she got in the middle.

And you are right , you have to put your son first. So YOU have to learn more about dogs before you go and get another one !!!

luckypenny
May 10th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Tina - did you even try petfinder or any other means of rehoming before you put him down? Poor skipper...I can't believe this.

Danaekitty, I feel exactly this way. Probably why I didn't post when I read this thread late last night, I was livid. But I did go back over all the old threads in relation to Skipper, and I really think this could and should have been dealt with in such a way that the outcome would not have been as it is now. But should haves and could haves can not change Skipper's unjust fate :sad: .

Love4himies
May 12th, 2008, 01:47 PM
:rip: Skipper:cry:

TinaMcq
May 13th, 2008, 07:29 PM
I am sorry I let everyone down :sad:

danaekitty
May 13th, 2008, 07:50 PM
Tina - I don't think we really meant to come down on you. We know you did your best, and you were as good as you could be for Skipper. Also, many forum members have gone through the sad ordeal of putting one of their animals down, so we can definitely empathize with you. Good luck to your family, and hopefully you'll find the right fit when it comes time for you to take another animal into your home so generously as you did Skipper.

ancientgirl
May 13th, 2008, 08:02 PM
OMG, I had no idea he was put down. There had to have been an alternative place for him, a group that would have taken him and helped with his aggression issues. I understand you wanting him out of your home, but I can't wrap my brain around having him put down.:sad:

coppperbelle
May 13th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Tina
I haven't participated in any of this thread or your other but I have been reading your posts. It is a shame that it came to having to put him down however I don't think there were other options. Most rescue groups will not take a dog that is a known biter. They can be held liable even if they disclose that the dog has bitten. Advertising on kiji isn't the best thing but unless someone has told you, how were you to know.

First and foremost you had to protect your child and I know I won't be popular for this but kids are unpredictable and no matter how much we tell them they will still do things that they are not supposed to do. Dogs that live with children must be stable and used to them otherwise it is a disaster waiting to happen.

One last comment on this subject. Having been involved in rescue for many years I have had to deal with a few aggressive dogs. The decision to not allow them to be adopted isn't easy. What we must remember is that for every aggressive dog there are many others that are not aggressive that need a home. Those are the ones we should concentrate on saving.

happycats
May 13th, 2008, 08:32 PM
Tina
I haven't participated in any of this thread or your other but I have been reading your posts. It is a shame that it came to having to put him down however I don't think there were other options. Most rescue groups will not take a dog that is a known biter. They can be held liable even if they disclose that the dog has bitten. Advertising on kiji isn't the best thing but unless someone has told you, how were you to know.

First and foremost you had to protect your child and I know I won't be popular for this but kids are unpredictable and no matter how much we tell them they will still do things that they are not supposed to do. Dogs that live with children must be stable and used to them otherwise it is a disaster waiting to happen.

One last comment on this subject. Having been involved in rescue for many years I have had to deal with a few aggressive dogs. The decision to not allow them to be adopted isn't easy. What we must remember is that for every aggressive dog there are many others that are not aggressive that need a home. Those are the ones we should concentrate on saving.

I agree that kids come first, but I also believe parents HAVE to teach their kids to be respectfull of all animals, because they all have the potential to bite if mistreated!

Th OP was looking for a puppy long before she dealt with Skipper, she just wants a puppy, and had poor Skipper put down, before ever exhausting all avenues. and was looking for a puppy right away, I don't think she even cared or mourned for Skipper!:mad:

The kid is 10 years old, and was playing to rough with the dog according to
the OP. Our dog bit my brothers, when we were kids, but IMO and my parents(thank dog)they deserved it for being to rough and teasing her!

ancientgirl
May 13th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Okay, I must have skimmed the part the mentioned the child was 10. I thought it was a 3 or 4 year old!

UN-believable! I'm going to go and hug my kitties now.

coppperbelle
May 13th, 2008, 08:48 PM
I agree that kids come first, but I also believe parents HAVE to teach their kids to be respectfull of all animals, because they all have the potential to bite if mistreated!

Th OP was looking for a puppy long before she dealt with Skipper, she just wants a puppy, and had poor Skipper put down, before ever exhausting all avenues. and was looking for a puppy right away, I don't think she even cared or mourned for Skipper!:mad:

The kid is 10 years old, and was playing to rough with the dog according to
the OP. Our dog bit my brothers, when we were kids, but IMO and my parents(thank dog)they deserved it for being to rough and teasing her!
I agree that children should be educated and should be supervised but realistically this is not always possible. I have an aggressive dog and have been bitten by her. The bite came out of the blue while I was petting her. I accidentally touched her tail and she snapped. Before that she bit my nephews girlfriend on the cheek, again for no reason that we could figure out. The last time she bit I was walking her and a neighbor who she knew, reached out to pet her and she bit. I don't have young kids so keeping her is not a problem and we have been able to work through some of her issues but I will never be able to trust her.
I don't think the original poster should get another dog right now. She needs to be on her own, and as mentioned not dependant on her grandmother.

Frenchy
May 13th, 2008, 09:04 PM
I agree that kids come first, but I also believe parents HAVE to teach their kids to be respectfull of all animals, because they all have the potential to bite if mistreated!


The kid is 10 years old, and was playing to rough with the dog according to
the OP.

I agree 100%.

happycats
May 13th, 2008, 09:10 PM
ENDURE!!! you didn't have t endure anything!!!!! your poor dog Skipper did!! poor skipper, I feel sorry that he had you for an owner and is now DEAD thanks to you!!

happycats
May 13th, 2008, 09:12 PM
I feel so sorry for your new puppy!!

Frenchy
May 13th, 2008, 09:17 PM
I feel so sorry for your new puppy!!

My thoughts exactly :sad:

luckypenny
May 13th, 2008, 11:37 PM
Not that it matters now, but I'm the Mom of an 11 year old who used to pretend wrestle with Penny. I found it annoying and I was sure she would too. I had told him to knock it off and explained the consequences to him if he didn't. Well, there was a day that they were on his bed and he leaned on her with his elbow and she met him with a growl. She was banned from the bed for about a month, and he was banned from tv, videogames, and the computer for 2 months. This happened a year ago and such an incident has never repeated itself. I'm sorry, but as a parent, one is responsible for teaching their children to respect the family's pets. It's our job to get the message across and it's our job to protect our children....by protecting our pets.

edwpang
May 13th, 2008, 11:48 PM
I feel so bad by skipper's sad fate. We went through almost same ordeal with our first dog Butter(Lab mix). He bite my daughter on the face, we sent him to the 10-day quarantine, the animal control said he they would arrange a rescue for him. But when we called several days later, they said they were going to put him down. We begged them to find a rescue for him, the manager( a lady) evetually gave in, Butter was rehomed to a childless family through a rescuer(also a lady). The couple fell in love with him within hours...

danaekitty
May 14th, 2008, 08:35 AM
Ty Beaglemom..... I don't know how we got on the topic of Skipper when i just had a simple question about an ad? It was something about having its first shots but not vet checked and I didn't understand how it could get its first shots without being vet checked that's it. I am not getting a new puppy right now I was just looking at the ads....

My son was in the room with my grandmother all three were watching TV, my son never provoked the dog. I just feel that if Skipper has bitten once he can do it again?

I have talked to my son and he admitted he was afraid but not that afraid and I am in the room with my son and dog and I am correcting what he is doing wrong (my son) its nothing bad he is just a boy who wants to play with a dog, I explained again because of Skippers past we cannot play rough because he is scared and feels he has to protect himself.

I just wanted to pull these quotes to point out a couple of things to those who are being needlessly judgemental -

1) She specifically said she is not getting a new puppy. So no need to "feel sorry for her new puppy". Hopefully she will learn from this and prepare herself next time.
2) Her son did not provoke the dog. It said in another post that Skipper also bit her sister in law or something when another dog (also not provoking) came near.
3) She DID talk to her son, she wasn't just letting him run wild with a vicious dog.

Happycats - I ordinarily really like your posts, but IMHO I think you were quite cruel. "I feel sorry that he had you for an owner and is now DEAD thanks to you!!" You also mentioned that you didn't think she cared for Skipper at all - if you'd read her multiple threads asking for our help with him when he first became troublesome months ago, you'd know that she did everything she knew how to help him. She may have been inexperienced with dogs, but she adopted an aged and abused one, and tried really hard, which is more than the average person would do - WE ALL KNOW THAT. And as for mourning - everyone mourns in different ways. How are you to know that she isn't mourning when all you know of her is through a few posts on a forum?

I'm sorry. I don't mean to be offensive or judgemental - but I've been following Tina's posts from since she got Skipper and I know she's tried. I doubt she'll be returning to this forum if and when the time comes for her to try again.

Winston
May 14th, 2008, 08:39 AM
She did get another puppy and posted it here!

Yes I will admit that we got a puppy and I know its alot more work but we can teach him right from the beginning and we can socialize him right from the beginning we don't have him yet but will be soon getting him. I have talked and talked with my son we go over that site. I know its early I wasen't planning on getting this soon but it happened.

Cindy

danaekitty
May 14th, 2008, 08:43 AM
Oh My. :wall::wall::wall:

:sorry:
Sorry, Happycats! I guess she's jumping in after all. But my other opinions still stand - Let's hope she has better luck training this one, for the sake of the dog.

I haven't found her post yet about the new one - I'll certainly be following that - and definitely won't be the first to defend if this puppy has the same fate.:shrug:

14+kitties
May 14th, 2008, 09:36 AM
I just wanted to pull these quotes to point out a couple of things to those who are being needlessly judgemental -

1) She specifically said she is not getting a new puppy. So no need to "feel sorry for her new puppy". Hopefully she will learn from this and prepare herself next time.
2) Her son did not provoke the dog. It said in another post that Skipper also bit her sister in law or something when another dog (also not provoking) came near.
3) She DID talk to her son, she wasn't just letting him run wild with a vicious dog.

Happycats - I ordinarily really like your posts, but IMHO I think you were quite cruel. "I feel sorry that he had you for an owner and is now DEAD thanks to you!!" You also mentioned that you didn't think she cared for Skipper at all - if you'd read her multiple threads asking for our help with him when he first became troublesome months ago, you'd know that she did everything she knew how to help him. She may have been inexperienced with dogs, but she adopted an aged and abused one, and tried really hard, which is more than the average person would do - WE ALL KNOW THAT. And as for mourning - everyone mourns in different ways. How are you to know that she isn't mourning when all you know of her is through a few posts on a forum?

I'm sorry. I don't mean to be offensive or judgemental - but I've been following Tina's posts from since she got Skipper and I know she's tried. I doubt she'll be returning to this forum if and when the time comes for her to try again.

danaekitty - Where did you get the idea that Skipper was an AGED dog? He was 15 months old. Hardly aged.
I am aware that there are some dogs that can not be changed from what they are regardless of the effort put in by owners. I am also aware that every time I offered my opinion on this subject from the start of her ownership of Skipper it was met with excuses as to why she couldn't do the things I suggested. I am quite sure it was the same with others. I tried to help her too. No more! I DO feel sorry for the new puppy. I have a feeling it will suffer the same fate. I just hope she gets help before it's too late for this one. :sad:

danaekitty
May 14th, 2008, 10:22 AM
danaekitty - Where did you get the idea that Skipper was an AGED dog? He was 15 months old. Hardly aged.
I am aware that there are some dogs that can not be changed from what they are regardless of the effort put in by owners. I am also aware that every time I offered my opinion on this subject from the start of her ownership of Skipper it was met with excuses as to why she couldn't do the things I suggested. I am quite sure it was the same with others. I tried to help her too. No more! I DO feel sorry for the new puppy. I have a feeling it will suffer the same fate. I just hope she gets help before it's too late for this one. :sad:

14+ - I guess I assumed, since the dog was kind of crotchety like an old man :laughing: - you know what they say about assuming, oops! I totally agree with the fact that she should not have gotten another puppy - don't get me wrong. She's clearly not ready, and I don't blame you for giving up on her. Frankly, I find it strange that she would have the guts to admit to us that she got a new pup. I really thought I had good reason to defend her - I guess there's two sides to every story, and there's definitely hunk of this one that are being left out.

happycats
May 14th, 2008, 11:03 AM
Yes skipper was only 15 months old, her son is 10 years old and should know better, and she bought a puppy off kijiji (off some BYB) while she was trying to dump Skipper!!, she lives with her grandmother. getting a new puppy is completely wrong, as she doesn't even live on her own, and can't teach her kid how to treat animals.

Sorry if I'm harsh but I think this puppy has a horrible future in store for it, and someone else had to post a RIP thread for poor skipper, while she posted threads about how much will her new freakin puppy weigh!!!:eek::mad:

Furryland
May 14th, 2008, 02:21 PM
I find that odd?:confused: Obviously, things do vary but i know any pet i have taken to the vet for the "baby" shots they have done a wellness check on as well.

Also the will refund monies etc bit, depends i know from breeders i have gotten health guarantees.. but it's all in writing and such.. done in a proper contract manner.




Hi just a question when getting a new puppy when they get there first shots are they not vet checked to? Cause this one ad said first shots but not vet checked and they will refund any money if the vet shows they have medical problems that will cost the new owners more money?

chico2
May 14th, 2008, 05:12 PM
OMG,I totally missed this post,had no idea Skipper was killed,poor missunderstood llittle pup:cry:

TinaMcq
May 14th, 2008, 09:39 PM
I have asked the admin to close this thread because no one understood the question everyone is off topic and insulting. I am not going anywhere and I don't care if people answere or not. Is there a rule that if someone give you advice you have to follow it? Honestly this is way off topic and if you can't answere the question then don't reply its not hard.

aslan
May 14th, 2008, 09:42 PM
I have asked the admin to close this thread because no one understood the question everyone is off topic and insulting. I am not going anywhere and I don't care if people answere or not. Is there a rule that if someone give you advice you have to follow it? Honestly this is way off topic and if you can't answere the question then don't reply its not hard.

OMG, similar to if you don't know a friggen thing about animals, DON"T get one then kill it. I stayed out of this for the longest time but seriously are you really that obtuse. No you don't have to follow the others advice, you do need to learn that animals are living creatures that need our help, if you are incapable of that then leave it to those that can.

Frenchy
May 14th, 2008, 09:49 PM
I have asked the admin to close this thread because no one understood the question everyone is off topic and insulting. I am not going anywhere and I don't care if people answere or not. Is there a rule that if someone give you advice you have to follow it? Honestly this is way off topic and if you can't answere the question then don't reply its not hard.

You never give up now do you ? If only you had put that much effort with Skipper :frustrated:

CearaQC
May 14th, 2008, 09:52 PM
Well many of you have had your say on this matter and yes it's perhaps best if the thread is closed.

People wouldn't grow and learn if they didn't make mistakes from time to time. Perhaps there was a big lesson in this for Tina. If she doesn't "get it," well then it's her problem and no one else's.

To Tina, you should really do some soul searching and ponder exactly why you want a dog and what you expect out of having a dog. What does a dog represent to you and why do you feel a dog would fulfill a part of your life? What is missing in your life? Maybe there are other ways to fill the void. It's not really fair to expect another living creature to fill voids in your life that you should be filling for yourself, from within.

TinaMcq
May 14th, 2008, 10:30 PM
So true CearaQC. I do see what your saying I thought having a dog would benefit both me and my son, my grandma is alone all day so I thought it would be company for her as well. I didn't get a dog for any reason except to love. I see what others are saying its not that I don't agree with is being said however my situation was my situation. What else can I say I am done here.

happycats
May 15th, 2008, 07:09 AM
It's sad how you keep posting in these 2 threads!! I have yet to see you post in the RIP Skipper thread !!!!:mad:
How freakin sad!!

marko
May 15th, 2008, 11:54 AM
This thread has run its course and will now be closed.