April 16th, 2008, 06:11 PM
Hi, I'm Monica and my 10 year old lab-husky-border collie mix dog, Diggy, has a mystery illness that the vet can't figure out.
Diggy's been in terrific health since I first adopted him from the Ottawa Humane Society 4 years ago, and he's been eating the Wellness Supermix5 Senior Formula dry dog food with a bit of the canned formula (for seniors) mixed in with some hot water. This diet has been fine for him....until recently.
(Admittedly, we occasionally give Diggy treats, including small quantities of human food (normally just cooked meat, some cooked vegetables (no onions) and the like. )
A few weeks ago, Diggy started to have terrible diahorrhea and vomiting. We took him to the vet, and hundreds of dollars and tests later (including stool and urine samples, pancreatitis tests, blood tests, and some other tests I can't remember), nothing showed up as being wrong with him.
While he was sick, he was on a strict boiled rice and boiled beef diet, with some anti-diaorrhea drugs from the vet and antacids that she had recommended.
After about 4 days, Diggy improved and I put him back on the Wellness senior formula dry kibble, but cut out the canned food. I continued to add a few small pieces of boiled beef and some of the water the beef had cooked in. However, about a week later (just two days ago), Diggy's going back to having diahorrhea and vomiting.
I'm wondering if it's possible for a dog who's been on a food for a while can suddenly develop a sensitivity or allergy to it. What can I do???
Thanks in advance for your suggestions and advice.
April 16th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Yes, it is possible for a dog to develop sensitivities to foods after a time. Does the vet think that it might be a food allergy?
Some things to consider:
You could switch him over to a food with different ingredients than the one he's on now--different protein source, find one with different or (even better) no grains, no corn, etc, and see if he tolerates it better. If he does, you'll know it's probably a food allergy.
There are conditions that might contribute to food intolerance. Inflammatory bowel disease, for instance. Addison's disease for another... There are tests for these, though some diagnostics can get pretty pricey.
Some organisms might also cause diarrhea and vomiting but might not be commonly tested for. Giardia is one...
Unfortunately, if it doesn't clear up with a change in diet, you're going to need a vet's help to figure it out. If your current vet has exhausted all of his ideas, maybe he can recommend a specialist? Sometimes a second set of eyes catches things that were missed...
April 16th, 2008, 09:43 PM
Welcome to the board. I'm sorry about your boy. As I read your post I was thinking the same thing hazel said, he might be allergic to something. She gave you sme good advice. A change in food and maybe a second opinion can hopefully help.
April 28th, 2008, 03:36 AM
I would quit your dry food for awhile to just a good brand of canned food, see if it clears up, the rice and cooked gr. beef (strained to get grease off and run hot water over it) are good, but when it clears up he should be able to hold down some canned food. If you go with the canned food, put it in a strainer to flush out excessive grease if their is alot.
The only good canned food I can think of is merricks, its on the spendy side, i had tried it with my diabetic being a few of the kinds are low glycemic, but I ended up giving it to my akita/husky. Ah, i don't know about that one now, it may be too rich to use right now, I think you can buy a brand call Hills but you may be only able to get it from the vet, I know Hills makes a brand called WD for diabetics, and they make another brand, I found the link
sometimes at the feed stores you can buy better brands of dog foods..
Sometimes the dry food can be hard on their stomachs as they get older, yes there are are also grain free foods out their also. Its called Core I believe, is that the brand you use, I'm thinking someone I talk to in a forum uses Wellness Core, I could be wrong.
Or just try a diet of gr. beef (fat rinsed off) or turkey, chicken, some rice or mashed potatoes (no milk or butter), you could give some broth from chicken etc with it. another alternative but spendy being your dog is large is babyfood, but you may as well get out the food processor for a large dog.
Ah geez I know :shrug: , I gotta use a processor for my brocolli for my diabetic dog.
has the vet ruled out pancreaitis? I think this acts up with too much protein.
Have you used any Pepto Bismol? I usually give this to my dogs when they throw up, and use the Kaopectate when they get the runs.
I think his tummy and system needs a little rest still from the first bout of it, try the bland and soft foods for about 7 days, check out the canine diabetes boards on Yuku, I know alot of the pets there have stomach troubles, pancreatis and other things, and no doubt they could help you with a food to choose and a link to them or may give some advice on whats causing it.
Hope this helps some and I hope you doggie is better today.
April 28th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Personally, I would try a few days on Hill's canned i/d - can also get it in dry form, but even my Eskie who is now 4 was fed the canned version at age 1 when he caught a virus that was going on in Toronto 3 years ago - worked great. Many people feed the i/d instead of making chicken and rice etc. I always keep a couple of emergency cans on hand, just in case. If your pup does not get better, I agree that are probably other tests that would need to be done and most likely your vet would refer you to one of the specialists who work out of the clinic on McMurrich Street (easier to get to from Guelph as I can tell you from personal experience) - and yes, pricey. But I would try the Hill's first. I know people don't like Hill's but the i/d formulation was perfect for my guy for short periods of time. This to me would just be a way of trying to isolate the problem - if your dog continues with same symptoms - particularly the throwing up, then I then you would have to get further tests done.
April 28th, 2008, 01:36 PM
Monica, do you have an update for us? :fingerscr :goodvibes: