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Chris21711
January 16th, 2008, 09:02 AM
I know it's early yet, but spring is just around the corner, right?
Last summer I bought some Lantana plants, in some southern parts (not Canada) they are a shrub. I bought them inside the house to overwinter and they seem to be doing quite fine. Question: They are all in the same pot and I want to separate them in the Spring and share. Does anyone know if by pulling the roots apart will end in their demise? I can't find much info. about them regarding overwintering. All advice is appreciated.

14+kitties
January 16th, 2008, 09:36 AM
My book says to propagate by seeds in spring or semi-ripe cuttings in the summer so my guess would be - don't separate.

Chris21711
January 16th, 2008, 09:56 AM
Thanks, I've never been that successful at propergating from cuttings, they generally die for me :mad: I will try again this year, if not I'll just keep them for myself and have folks admire them:D

luckypenny
January 16th, 2008, 10:22 AM
I've just looked up Lantana and they really are quite pretty! Something I may consider planting in the front yard this spring. I did read that the leaves, as well as the unripe green berries, are considered toxic. I thought I'd mention it in case your pets have access to your plants.

Now that you've planted Spring and gardening in my mind, I have to run to my favorite gardener's website and check out their new catalog :D .

jiorji
January 16th, 2008, 10:29 AM
you HAVE to sepparate!

that's how it goes. Otherwise they get too clustered and the roots have no room to breathe. If the roots get ripped off, it's ok. They grow back. The plant can survive as long as you leave some roots on. The goal is to rip off as little as possible, but if oyu'r enot experienced, it'll be ok.

when you overwinter them, you shouldn't water them as much.

If i were you i'd wait to separate until they come back to life because if it's dormant, the plant won't have enough energy to grow and adapt. It'll be very weak. So let them like that and when you're ready to take them outside, separate and feed abd the roots will grow.:thumbs up

jiorji
January 16th, 2008, 10:30 AM
oh and they are shrubs. So if you take them inside every winter, chances are that it'll stay a shrub. And when it gets bigger, you need a bigger pot.

14+kitties
January 16th, 2008, 11:48 AM
Information that is taken from "Guide to Flowering Perennials" -
Ornamental lantanas are very adaptable to most garden climates, and they will withstand light frost and also drought. The plants thrive most vigorously in warm conditions, where they may flower almost all year round. Trim lantanas to shape if desired, otherwise they require almost no maintenance.

Taken from "Canadian Encyclopedia of Plants and Flowers"
Genus of evergreen perennials and shrubs, grown for their flowers. Tender perennial. Min 10 - 13 degrees C(50 - 55 F). Needs full light and fertile, wel-drained soil. Water containerized specimens freely when in full growth, moderately at other times. Tip prune young plants to promote a bushy habit. Propagate by seed in spring or by semi-ripe cuttings in summer. Spider mite and whitefly may be troublesome.

I have also included a couple of websites that I find useful when looking for information for my greenhouses.

http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pda_ded2.html

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/578/

http://www.weekendgardener.net/gardening-questions/may-050705.htm

Hope this helps a little.
The secret of success with semi-ripe cuttings are to take them at the right time of year - summer.
Do you use a rooting hormone or just put the cuttings in water? I usually use a hormone and put my cuttings directly into a very light soil - mix of vermiculite and peat moss. Not a heavy soil as this is usually death to rooting.

luckypenny
January 16th, 2008, 12:11 PM
14+, will we plant-lovers get to see pics of your greenhouse inhabitants in a new thread :pray: ?

14+kitties
January 16th, 2008, 12:49 PM
14+, will we plant-lovers get to see pics of your greenhouse inhabitants in a new thread :pray: ?


:D Thanks for asking LP! When it gets closer to selling time I will be posting a few pictures in this section. At the moment the greenhouse inhabitants are just geraniums cuttings and a few stragglers from last year - ivies and stuff. I will be gung ho starting my seeding in the next few weeks as I grow most of what I sell from seed.

Winston
January 16th, 2008, 04:28 PM
14+ Kitties you shold have joined this site in 2006 and I could have dropped off my 300 hostas that I seperated !! :laughing: I would love to be able to start my veggie garden from seeds but I find they never really get going and then they die or they seem to be too fragile once I plant them..like to stems are weak and not strong?? and I hate to say it but it is easier to go buy a box for $1.00 and plant them! Look forward to some plant pics!

Cindy

jiorji
January 16th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Propagate by seed in spring or by semi-ripe cuttings in summer.

there's no need for seed or cutting propagation if she's got baby plants. You propagate from cuttings when it's shrub size. Those things grow big, you NEED to separate them or the weaker one will die off anyways

14+kitties
January 16th, 2008, 05:22 PM
I am sorry, I missed the "in the same pot". In that case you can separate the individual plants gently. I was going by the question "can it be separated to share." All of the research I have done on the plant says this particular plant does not need to be separated which normally means why separate if you can propagate by other means. Pruned; yes, separated, no. The seeds and semi ripe cuttings are just a way of sharing the plant with others.

And Winston, I know! You have mentioned the hostas before. I just can't believe that you couldn't sell them because around here they go like wild fire if they are priced right. How do you start your seeds? Outside or inside? Veg seeds are funny little beggars sometimes and need the right conditions.

Chris21711
January 17th, 2008, 09:22 AM
Thanks for all the info on the Lantana. Right now I have them in the basement where it is cooler and I did cut them back when I bought them inside, they are sprouting new green leaves and look healthy, I water them about once a week. When I first bought them I didn't have any intention of overwintering them, therefore I planted them all in the same pot, then I found out that they were a shrub, also I saw them in tubs in Newmarket, where they were about 5 feet high and pruned to shape, they looked gorgeous. :lightbulb: gotta have me some of those beauties.
I didn't know they were toxic though, only one of the cats comes out front where I have my pots and he's not a plant nibbler. The berries turn from green to black and look neat.
LP, I can't wait to get my fingers grubby. Will be going to the Toronto Botanical Gardens soon. Once New Year's is over, I convince myself we are on the home stretch.
14+kitties, thanks for the sites. I so envy you with a greenhouse. Winston, Hostas go like hot cakes around here, would have thought in Hamillton too.

14+kitties
January 17th, 2008, 09:32 AM
Oh Chris.. don't envy me the greehouses in the months of March, April, and May. I am in there up to 16 hours a day transplanting seedlings into bigger pots, checking for aphids,whiteflies, etc.., keeping temp where it should be to maintain growth but not by too much.... and the list goes on. Don't get me wrong, I love it. Just get me past those months........ :D
Most of the time it is very relaxing. Rainy days are my favourite when the rain is hitting the greenhouses and I am in there listening to it and nice and cosy. So nice. :cloud9:

Chris21711
January 17th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Believe me I envy you. Every Xmas I get "what do you want for Xmas" me "Greenhouse" them "No, what do you really want" me "I could do with a new Frying Pan. Guess what I got, you're right, the Frying Pan.:mad:

14+kitties
January 17th, 2008, 11:36 AM
I hope you took that frying pan and used it on the appropriate place on their bodies?? http://bestsmileys.com/hitting/13.gif (replace rolling pin with pan) :D
The small ones you put up yourself are actually getting to be not badly priced. It's too bad you can't convince your family. Keep working at it. They have to give in sometime.

CearaQC
January 17th, 2008, 01:27 PM
14+ Kitties you shold have joined this site in 2006 and I could have dropped off my 300 hostas that I seperated !! :laughing: I would love to be able to start my veggie garden from seeds but I find they never really get going and then they die or they seem to be too fragile once I plant them..like to stems are weak and not strong?? and I hate to say it but it is easier to go buy a box for $1.00 and plant them! Look forward to some plant pics!

Cindy

300 Hostas? WOW! lol I have 3 and they can't grow fast enough for me. I love all the different colors.

What kinda veggies do you want to grow? Stuff like tomatoes/basil/peppers should be started indoors, but others like peas/beans/onion sets can just be planted where they will grow. And some plants like tomatoes benefit from being planted in their final growing area deeper which makes them produce more root.

jesse's mommy
January 31st, 2008, 09:47 PM
I hate Lantana! It's everywhere here. It is so invasive and poisonous. If you are playing with this in the garden make sure you wash your hands before you touch yourself anywhere because you can break out. Also, make sure your hands are clean before you touch your pets because of their "wondering" kisses. It's pretty, but once you have it, make sure it's something you want. We've been trying to kill it here at the house for over two years and have been unsuccessful. It keeps coming back! We've tried pulling the roots (or so we thought) and it came back. We nuked it. It came back. We cut it down to expose the middle of the branches and nuked it. It came back. If you plant this anywhere near other plants, be very careful because it overtake whatever plant is near it. When we first moved in here it was grown thoughout an entire lemon tree and slowly killing it. Ugh! Lantana! Make it go away! :frustrated:

14+kitties
January 31st, 2008, 10:14 PM
I hate Lantana! It's everywhere here. It is so invasive and poisonous. If you are playing with this in the garden make sure you wash your hands before you touch yourself anywhere because you can break out. Also, make sure your hands are clean before you touch your pets because of their "wondering" kisses. It's pretty, but once you have it, make sure it's something you want. We've been trying to kill it here at the house for over two years and have been unsuccessful. It keeps coming back! We've tried pulling the roots (or so we thought) and it came back. We nuked it. It came back. We cut it down to expose the middle of the branches and nuked it. It came back. If you plant this anywhere near other plants, be very careful because it overtake whatever plant is near it. When we first moved in here it was grown thoughout an entire lemon tree and slowly killing it. Ugh! Lantana! Make it go away! :frustrated:

jesse's mommy - not to worry. It supposedly is a tender perennial (min. 50 - 55F) so would never survive our winters if planted outside.

jesse's mommy
January 31st, 2008, 10:19 PM
But it's like a horror movie, it always comes back! :yell:

14+kitties
January 31st, 2008, 10:34 PM
Yes, I agree it probably does in Florida. Unfortunately our winters are not like yours. Right at the moment we are at -5C (23F) and expected to go to -12 (10.4F). With the wind chills it gets worse. A lot of the plants considered perennial down there are annuals up here. They just don't survive the frigid winters.

Chris21711
February 1st, 2008, 09:06 AM
But it's like a horror movie, it always comes back! :yell:

Not in Ontario and probably all of Canada. Remember we live in the Great White North :frustrated:

CearaQC
February 1st, 2008, 12:26 PM
Starve any unwanted plants from the two things they need most - light and water.

Black plastic (although ugly in appearance) laid out over the area nice and tight for a hot summer's duration will bake anything underneath. Also thick layers of mulch might work.

Chris21711
March 25th, 2008, 10:15 AM
I imagine that one of these days the snow will go. My Lantana in the basement is still trucking, I had hoped by now that we would have had a day here or there that I could put it outside for a couple of hours. Alas that has not been the case.:yell:

Question: Should I start to fertilize it?
" " When should I separate it, as there are three plants in one pot?

SARAH
March 25th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Plant thread? Hmm, I know these aren't outside plants, but I must admit I'm a bit proud of them all ...

I've always been known to "kill" any plant that came inside my house. Not on purpose, never, but they just didn't want to live with me, preferred suicide to being with me :cry:

So now, with these guys ... hope you don't mind my sharing, or if you do just skip past the pics.

First out, a photo of my three floating shelves where I placed my European birdies and the plants.

Second, is the Christmas Cactus, which is in fact a piece of the one my great-grandmother had (by way of my grand-mother's and my mom's but the mother plant was from 1800 and something!). I planted it 18 months ago, just a tiny thing of a few leaves, and now look at it! 23 new leaf-shoots, and a flower!

Then there's last Christmas' pointsetta .. .. this one I don't "get" at all! I mean, when I buy these in mid-December, they are always dead by New Year's Eve. This one? Making me new leaves all over!

SARAH
March 25th, 2008, 10:46 AM
Then there's a tiny thing I took from my in-laws' country house and stuck in water for a few weeks. I forget the name :D but it's also making a huge number of new leaves.

The hanging ivy I bought while we were renting, and if it didn't die in that dark place, it's certainly in light-heaven here. I cut it back already, the peices are on the top shelf with a spider plant I started from a piece I got from my hair dresser!

And this big guy? It was left with the house, too big and fragile to move! I had to cut off a piece from the top (which is in the next pic).

SARAH
March 25th, 2008, 10:49 AM
Last pics (promise, I'm out of plants by now :D )

First the top part of the big-guy that I started rooting in a glass of water, along-side a yucca (I think) we got at Maxi up the road.

Then there are my two bamboos, one smaller that I bought in the vase it's in, and the bigger one I put in the super-tall vase myself, after getting the stones from Dollarama (hey, why pay more?)

FancyAppy
March 25th, 2008, 01:29 PM
great pics and commentary. OK I am ready to get out and plant. Love that there are fellow gardners at this site. Your heart bamboo is very nice and your Christmas cactus has such a wonderful history attached to it.I really enjoyed your pictures. Can't wait to see what grows in your greenhouse.

hazelrunpack
March 25th, 2008, 04:10 PM
I imagine that one of these days the snow will go. My Lantana in the basement is still trucking, I had hoped by now that we would have had a day here or there that I could put it outside for a couple of hours. Alas that has not been the case.:yell:

Question: Should I start to fertilize it?
" " When should I separate it, as there are three plants in one pot?

Just bumping your question, Chris, since I think it'll be easy to miss up there.... :o Sorry I don't know anything about Lantana!

14+kitties
March 25th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Chris - Are you planning on putting them in pots for the summer or planting them in the garden? If it is in pots go ahead and separate the plants now. That way by the time it goes outside it will be looking great. If not and you are planning on keeping them for yourself for your garden then you can wait until you plant it outside. Once separated and settled in new homes just give a weak solution of fertilizer until it is established.
Remember you don't need to cut back the roots but if you want to shape the top of it you can. I have some going in the greenhouse - still seedlings but growing. :)
How much light does your basement get? You could move the Lantana to a spot with a little more light for a while before you start hardening it off outside.

Chris21711
March 26th, 2008, 10:38 AM
Hazel - Thanx, since SARAH hi-jacked my thread with pictures of her Beautiful indoor plants.

14+kitties, I was hoping that you was lurking around. I intend to keep them in pots, I want to try and overwinter them until they finally croak on me. Being the nice person I am :rolleyes: I want to share with my plant Buddy.
They are not big enough to shape the tops, don't know if they will be this year. The basement has a dim light, so I have two options, bring them up to the main floor, but I don't know if it will be too hot at night. Or put them in the vestibule, where it is about the same temperature as the basement, maybe a bit cooler even. Do you think that after I re-pot them, that I should leave them in the same conditions that they are used to for a period of time until they acclimatize?

You said that you are growing some, have you grown them before? They are so pretty. You are the Pro, I need your Info :D

SARAH
March 26th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Hazel - Thanx, since SARAH hi-jacked my thread with pictures of her Beautiful indoor plants.




OOPS :sorry: :sorry:

14+kitties
March 26th, 2008, 05:25 PM
You can repot now, bring them up to the main floor. I would not put them too close to a window but close enough (foot or so away) that they can get some sun for the first week. Then move them closer to the window - North or West facing one. The heat won't bother them. My greenhouse can go up to 95 during the day and goes down to 60 at night. From the research I have done on lantana it says not lower than 55 degrees.
Right now mine are seedlings. I have wanted to try growing them for a while. This subject actually got me going on them. They are doing great even with the temp fluctuations. By selling season I should have a few a good size. If not I will wait till next year to offer them.

glasslass
March 26th, 2008, 06:47 PM
Lantanas are great for hot summers! They like it near a drippy faucet. When I was a kid I called them "Mudpie Flowers" because I used them to decorate my mudpies. When you pull them apart, they separate into a bunch of little individual flowers.

Chris21711
March 27th, 2008, 09:11 AM
Thanks 14+kitties. I will let you know how it goes. Also will want to see photos of your efforts.

Glassless-you live in California, we can replace the mud with snow, I don't think that it is leaving this year, so the Lantana just might have to spend the whole year in the house. :yell:

14+kitties
March 27th, 2008, 07:04 PM
You are welcome Chris. Pics coming once seedlings get bigger. Right now they don't look very impressive. Just a bunch of green stuff. :)

Chris21711
March 28th, 2008, 09:44 AM
Mine is just a bunch of green stuff too. I just have visions of the ones I saw the Town of Newmarket had in barrels last summer:cloud9:. They were about 4ft tall, I have no idea how long they take to get to that height. My girlfriend who lives in town said the town does them theirselves, I think I will try to find out something from them, even if it is the Nursery they buy them from, I can't seem to find much on-line.

Chris21711
March 28th, 2008, 09:48 AM
I started this thread in January and said spring is just around the corner, I should have kept my mouth shut.

When I was at Canada Blooms a couple of weeks ago, I bought some Lily bulbs, I was thinking of potting them now, so that they are already on the go when I plant them (if ever the day arrives), is that a good idea or no?

14+kitties
March 28th, 2008, 12:09 PM
I think Lantana takes a while to get to the 4 foot bushy stage. I have never seen it that big here. Just smaller plants. So it will be a year or so you are taking yours in for the winter. :)
You could start your lily and other bulbs now if you want. Depends on how early you want lilies. I think they are beautiful any time. I started a few from seed last year in the greenhouses and got flowers this year. Actually - that's the pic in my avatar.
I took the following off a web site. Maybe it will help.

About three weeks after starting the bulbs, when they're only 2 to 4 inches tall, they begin setting buds. Every day after that calls for monitoring and manipulation because the number of buds is determined by the temperature.

"You can turn the same size bulb into a four-flower plant or a 10-flower plant, depending on the temperature," Jeff explains. "Obviously, you want as many buds as possible so you get as many flowers as possible."

But you don't want them to flower too quickly, which makes an early Easter a juggling act. Once the buds start, the thermostat drops. "If you lower the temperature to 55, you'll get amazing bud-set," Jeff adds. "You can do that with a late Easter, but with an Easter as early as this year, the minimum you can go is 60 degrees."

Jeff and crew patrol the pots regularly, pulling out plants that are too far along. If they look too close to popping, they go into cold storage to slow their growth down. The idea is for them to be in full splendor by Easter Sunday.

"As the holiday gets closer, you raise the temperature so the buds get puffy," Jeff tells me. "It doesn't take much for them to pop. But you want them to open for the customer, not you."

We're in lily-land now, and the long greenhouse tables are filled with tray after tray of potted plants. They're tall and regal with dark green leaves and buds that are swelling just enough to show a hint of white. There isn't a flower to be seen yet. Of course, there are just a mere 2,000 lilies in this particular greenhouse. Easter lilies don't mind closeness - six 6-inch pots crowd happily into a single tray. Keil's produces about 23,000 plants; 80 percent go to churches and the rest to flower shops.

One good thing about Easter lilies is that you can grow them on the dry side. If they sit in water, they'll get root rot, which feeds their archenemy - bulb mites. That's why Jeff waters the lilies himself. "That way, I know who to blame if they rot," he says.

He looks around the greenhouse. Nothing's rotting, and half the crop is still in cold storage. So far, so good. "We start shipping two weeks before Easter," he says. "The first week, no one wants to see a flower; by the second week, if there are no flowers, everyone is screaming. And two days after Easter, who wants an Easter lily?"

Until next Easter, anyway. Jeff Keil is already breathing a sigh of relief. Easter 2009 falls on April 12.

Tips on caring for your lilies

Be strong. Resist buying Easter lilies in full flower - you're better off picking a plant with buds in various stages of bloom.

And if you want your lily to keep going, let it chill, with daytime temperatures between 60 and 65 degrees, in bright, indirect sunlight. Keep it away from drafts, fireplaces, heaters and cats, too, since Easter lilies can cause renal failure in felines.

Remember, lilies don't like wet feet, so make sure there's a drainage hole in the pot. Also, remove the decorative foil or wrapping so water doesn't sit. Flowers will last longer if you pluck off the yellow anthers at the center of the bloom - and you won't have to worry about pollen staining your carpet. After your lily finishes its show, move it to a sunny spot and feed it a teaspoon of slow-release fertilizer every six weeks.

You can plant your Easter lily outdoors once all danger of frost is past; late May is safe. Prepare a sunny, well-drained site with organic matter. Plant the bulb 3 inches deep, then mound another 3 inches of soil over the bed.

If you're planting more than one bulb, space them about 12 inches apart, and water; mulch later in the season. When the foliage fades, cut back the stem. You might see a second blooming this summer, but chances are you'll have to wait until next July. If you want Lilium longiflorum to grace your Easter table next year, you'll just have to buy another. - Irene Virag

Chris21711
March 29th, 2008, 11:00 AM
Thanks again 14+kitties, you are just a fountain of information. The bulbs I bought aren't Easter Lillies, some asiatic and some orientals. Sounds awfully complicated though. I think I will put them straight in the garden, there they will get the temperature drops naturally, it's kind of difficult in the house. Plus living in a church, our windows start about 4ft. off the floor and are not that big.

Chris21711
April 3rd, 2008, 09:31 AM
14+kitties,,,,,,,,,,,,One of my Lantans dropped all of its leaves?:cry::cry:

14+kitties
April 3rd, 2008, 10:57 AM
Chris - don't panic!!! Lantanas drop their leaves when they are stressed. It is possible that separating it is what did it. Give it a few weeks, cut back a bit on the watering (once a week unless soil is absolutely dried out), see what happens. I wouldn't worry too much. They are pretty tough plants.
Did you prune it back at all? That may encourage new leaves as well. I think patience is the best thing. And I know, it's hard. I go through the same thing every year wondering if I am going to have enough saleble plants too.
Hang in there and good luck.

Chris21711
April 4th, 2008, 10:02 AM
I didn't prune it, it was the baby one that when I first brought them in and cut them back, i thought was a goner then about 6 weeks later it started to sprout, then when I split them I left it with one of the others as I didn't want to disturb it and I put them in the window (on the north side) and it dropped the leaves one by one :yell:

I will leave it there and hope it comes back the others seem OK so far, when should I start giving them some fertilizer? Sorry to ask so much.

14+kitties
April 4th, 2008, 07:07 PM
Np Chris. I don't mind. You can give the plants a weak fertilizer every time you water from now until you put them outside. About 1/4 the strength it will get once it is outside and growing well. Don't forget to harden it off before putting it outside full time. It will need a very short period of time (1/2 hour to 1 hour) day one, doubled day 2, doubled again day 3, as long as it isn't showing signs of stress by then on day 4 you should be able to leave it out. You probably already knew that. ;)

Chris21711
April 5th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Thanks 14+kitties. I used Fish Emulsion fertilizer last summer for my pots. I'll use the same again this year. I'll be really chuffed if they flourish. Finally the weather is breaking. I was thinking of putting them outside tomorrow for a spell, but it is a long ways off before things can stay out overnight. Probably is better to hold off for a while?

14+kitties
April 5th, 2008, 06:10 PM
No, it's nice tomorrow. They would be ok for an hour. Just watch for signs of stress. I have the side of my bigger greenhouse open. It hit over 100 in there today. I open it during the day and close it at night as long as the weather is good. Fish emulsion is good. :D

Chris21711
July 9th, 2008, 09:58 AM
14+k - I have buds forming on my Lantana. Anything much happening on yours? I have noticed them in a few plant centres this year where other years I never saw them. Maybe I just wasn't looking. I haven't been to Newmarket for a few weeks, so I don't know if the town has them this year or not. Next time I go I will have a lookie and if they do will take a pic and post.

14+kitties
July 9th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Nope, not yet. I think this year they will probably just grow a little. They are still in the greenhouse. I will keep an eye on them.
It's great yours is coming back and budding. See, you need faith in yourself! Once the flowers open you have to post pics!
That would be great if you got pics in Newmarket. I don't know when we will get back there. We should go soon to see my son's new apartment but time and circumstances just won't allow right now.
:fingerscr for some good buds!!!

hazelrunpack
July 9th, 2008, 10:13 AM
You definitely need to post pics when it blooms, Chris! :thumbs up

Don't you love it when you get a plant to bloom for the first time!? I always feel so accomplished :thumbs up until hazel's moldy thumb takes over and it dies...but at least I get to see it bloom once!!! :o

Chris21711
July 9th, 2008, 10:45 AM
I have a giant moldy thumb Hazel. This years garden is an enigma to me. Some plants didn't come back, others did and are as miserable as sin. They are going to my g/f who takes all my 'me no like you no more plants'. Others are doing better than other years. Also plants that never seem to get bothered by bugs, this year they are. Needless to say I'm scratching my head.

For sure I'll take pics, this little baby I nurtured all winter in the basement.

14+k maybe next time you come to Newmarket we could get together for a coffee, non?

14+kitties
July 9th, 2008, 10:53 AM
I would LOVE to do coffee Chris! Will probably be in the early fall though before I make it.
Last year we had the heat. This year we have bugs. Can't win lately. I have some plants I started that I need to spray and put back in the greenhouse to protect them. It's too bad but not much we can do. I don't like using spray on the plants. Not great for the environment and a lot of plants don't like them. They are more harmful than the actual bug.
Have you tried soapy water on the plants to get rid of the bugs? Put dish soap in a spray bottle (approx 2 tbsp), fill with water, and spray right on bugs on the plant. It's harmless to plants but you may want to rinse off so it doesn't form a film.

Chris21711
July 11th, 2008, 10:37 AM
Looking forward to it 14k. Haven't done the soapy water thingy yet, but will do it this weekend. My mini roses that all the leaves got hit by some little creature, I chopped them back to zilch, think they will come back though. If they don't :shrug:

14+kitties
July 11th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Mini roses are tricky sometimes. I thought yours looked more like a fungus but sometimes it's hard to tell with pictures. It's really hard to tell if they will come back or not. All you can do is cross your fingers. They may not show any sign of life till next year. :shrug:
My bee balm is open now. It has some rust on it but still looks neat. It's right up against the gazebo so we won't be sitting out there for a while. Bees really do like bee balm. Go figure. :rolleyes:

Chris21711
July 12th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Well if the roses come back, so be it. I have been trying to give them to my g/f for a couple of years, they really do not fit with what I have in this jumbled mind of mine. The Hubby says to give them to him, which means I still have them :confused:

My little bit of Bee Balm is flowering too, it always reminds me of a Play-Doh kit that Ethel had when she was small, where you made hair of it. Mine is red and this year I am not seeing many bees around at all. Bumble Bees in particular are near zilch :sad:

Chris21711
August 23rd, 2010, 11:44 AM
My Lantana is still living and breathing :D....this summer is it's 4th summer with me so I thought I would post a pic.

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In the pot there are 2 plants and I want to separate them into 2 pots since they are getting a bit rootbound....Opinions 1) can I?, 2) should I do it now or wait until Spring when I bring them back outside?

nb photo doesn't do it justice, the colours are far more vibrant.....sigh I tried

14+kitties
August 23rd, 2010, 12:20 PM
My Lantana is still living and breathing :D....this summer is it's 4th summer with me so I thought I would post a pic.

In the pot there are 2 plants and I want to separate them into 2 pots since they are getting a bit rootbound....Opinions 1) can I?, 2) should I do it now or wait until Spring when I bring them back outside?

nb photo doesn't do it justice, the colours are far more vibrant.....sigh I tried

It's doing really really well Chris!! Great job!!
Yes, you can separate them. Try waiting till spring just before you start bringing them back from dormancy. If you do it now it would be a sign for them to start producing more roots and foliage. Wrong time of the year to be doing that unless you planned on doing cuttings and such over the winter.
Wonderful plant!! I wish I could have had more luck/time/energy to work with mine. :( Maybe this winter. :fingerscr

Chris21711
August 23rd, 2010, 04:33 PM
Will wait until Spring then 14k I don't want to stop it flowering.

As far as work, there is no work involved...when the temp drops I just bring it in the house. Now that Daisy is no longer with us it is in the back room and gets plenty of light. I try to remember to water it once a week...it generally drops a few leaves over the winter but a week or two of going back outside starts sprouting :D

14+kitties
August 23rd, 2010, 04:37 PM
Will wait until Spring then 14k I don't want to stop it flowering.

As far as work, there is no work involved...when the temp drops I just bring it in the house. Now that Daisy is no longer with us it is in the back room and gets plenty of light. I try to remember to water it once a week...it generally drops a few leaves over the winter but a week or two of going back outside starts sprouting :D

:laughing: I know! You have a perfect set up!! I have to clean out my greenhouse before I can start back to work on seeding and such. Even then I can not keep it going over the winter. It is too expensive to put oil in. :eek: Especially now with the HST. :frustrated: It's gonna be tough to keep the house and shop going. My only alternative to keeping things going over the winter is to bring them in the house and put them in the basement. I hate out basement stairs. They are steep and scary!! But once I get a few plants going again I may do that. I did make some headway in one garden today. :thumbs up

Chris21711
August 23rd, 2010, 04:52 PM
I did make some headway in one garden today. :thumbs up

You're a better woman that me then, I thought about it, decided it was too gloomy to garden....I'm a fair weather gardener :cool:.

I'll try and get a Lantana going in a pot and see how it goes, I'm not sure when to plant the seed...are the seeds inside the black berrie or is that the seed?

14+kitties
August 23rd, 2010, 04:59 PM
You're a better woman that me then, I thought about it, decided it was too gloomy to garden....I'm a fair weather gardener :cool:.

I'll try and get a Lantana going in a pot and see how it goes, I'm not sure when to plant the seed...are the seeds inside the black berrie or is that the seed?

I did the big raised garden. My bro and his wife are coming for a visit on Wed. :cloud9: so I wanted to try to get some weeds gone before they get here. I got all the weeds out and moved some of the lilies and a ground cover into it. Still have tons of room for more things I want to move from other gardens. No rest........ :rolleyes:

I'm trying to remember. I know you gave me a seed last year and I forgot to start it this year. :wall: I have ordered some before but they didn't do well. I think it would be inside the berry. :shrug: My brain isn't functioning right now. :o

Chris21711
August 23rd, 2010, 05:11 PM
My brain doesn't function well at the best of times, so no worries :laughing:

I'll have lots of seeds so I'll try both ways, one at least should work, non :rolleyes:

14+kitties
August 23rd, 2010, 05:17 PM
My brain doesn't function well at the best of times, so no worries :laughing:

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I'll have lots of seeds so I'll try both ways, one at least should work, non :rolleyes:

:thumbs up Most likely. You have good luck with your seeds most of the time. :highfive:

Chris21711
August 23rd, 2010, 05:21 PM
:thumbs up Most likely. You have good luck with your seeds most of the time. :highfive:

Depends which kind they are :D