Pets.ca - Pet forum for dogs cats and humans 

-->

my kitten

chris3232
December 25th, 2007, 08:43 PM
Hi im exighted about this, never knew this even existed! My name is Chris, i have 3 dogs and three cats!( always rescuing animals) i just broght home a kitten about 1 month ago, 3 night ago we noticed a huge lump on her abdomen, we immediatly called the vet and took her in for an after hours visit, the vet stuck a needle in her absect and withdrew 2 vials of puss, then gave her a shot of antibiotics, later that night the absect was still present so we got warm water and a rag and drained the rest, its gone but now she is severly sick, runny eyes, snezzing and wont drink, she eats alot, well did till this evening, i feel so helpless, anybody have any ideas as to whats wrong with this poor baby? how can we help?

hazelrunpack
December 25th, 2007, 08:54 PM
Welcome to the board.

I'm so sorry your kitten is sick. :grouphug: Did the vet give you any other meds to give her? Is there an after-hours vet service you can call? Many vets have answering services to page them if there's an emergency. If she's not eating or drinking, I would consider that an emergency!

Good luck! And please keep us posted!

chris3232
December 25th, 2007, 09:06 PM
thank for writing back, :o yes weve taken her to the vet, had emergency care, he treated her for an infection but it doesnt seem to help, she did good for almost 2 days but isnt good tonight, he has her on antibiotics but im worried it has progressed to FIP or something we live in a small town and have taken her 2 times in the past few days, i was just taking matters in my own hands:cry: thought ide try everything i could, hate to see an animal suffering, and was worried she would get the others ill, this web site is so cool, there is so much info on it! im glad im abord, wish i would of discovered this sooner, gonna have to figure out how to get pics of the family on! we will just keep monitering her and pray she gets better or we will have to take her in agian if its not to late:sad:

SARAH
December 25th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Make sure to get fluids into her so she doesn't get dehydrated, even if that means prying her mouth open with a teaspoon and pouring the liquid into her that way. Or using a syringe without the needle is good too if you have one.

Welcome to the board, and do keep us posted on her situation.

chris3232
December 25th, 2007, 09:23 PM
Make sure to get fluids into her so she doesn't get dehydrated, even if that means prying her mouth open with a teaspoon and pouring the liquid into her that way. Or using a syringe without the needle is good too if you have one.

Welcome to the board, and do keep us posted on her situation.

thanks so much, i really appreciate the advise! :thumbs up we are doin that now, i gave her a little asprin as well, think ill take her to a new vet tommarro, i think there may be somthing wrong with her intestines mabey with all ive been reading. thanks for the input

SARAH
December 25th, 2007, 09:25 PM
I just learned 2 weeks ago NO ASPIRIN FOR CATS !!

If you have some amber jewelry, place it on your cat, or her on it, doesn't matter. Don't ask how or why it works, but it does. Takes away infections, fever etc in babies and animals, adult humans too if they'd give it a shot and not just :shrug: it off as humbug.

chris3232
December 25th, 2007, 09:30 PM
I just learned 2 weeks ago NO ASPIRIN FOR CATS !!

If you have some amber jewelry, place it on your cat, or her on it, doesn't matter. Don't ask how or why it works, but it does. Takes away infections, fever etc in babies and animals, adult humans too if they'd give it a shot and not just :shrug: it off as humbug.

k, thanks,ill see if i can find some amber, im desperate ill try anything:confused:

chris3232
December 25th, 2007, 09:32 PM
I just learned 2 weeks ago NO ASPIRIN FOR CATS !!

If you have some amber jewelry, place it on your cat, or her on it, doesn't matter. Don't ask how or why it works, but it does. Takes away infections, fever etc in babies and animals, adult humans too if they'd give it a shot and not just :shrug: it off as humbug.

gotta ask why no asprin?:D

SARAH
December 25th, 2007, 09:34 PM
I know it sounds goofy. My mom told me of a 1-year old baby girl who kept getting bronciolitis and had to go to a chiro to have her lungs massaged to get the pflegm out! He hated having to do that to such a small baby and told the parents to try amber. The baby was cured!

I had a stuffy nose, put on a piece of amber, my nose cleared up. Spoutnik (6-week old kitten) got a cold with fever, after 1 hour on the piece of amber, his fever was gone!

I don't explain it. I can't. I don't care how it works, only that it does!

Hope you and your :sick: cat have a peaceful night :grouphug:

chris3232
December 25th, 2007, 09:38 PM
I know it sounds goofy. My mom told me of a 1-year old baby girl who kept getting bronciolitis and had to go to a chiro to have her lungs massaged to get the pflegm out! He hated having to do that to such a small baby and told the parents to try amber. The baby was cured!

I had a stuffy nose, put on a piece of amber, my nose cleared up. Spoutnik (6-week old kitten) got a cold with fever, after 1 hour on the piece of amber, his fever was gone!

I don't explain it. I can't. I don't care how it works, only that it does!

Hope you and your :sick: cat have a peaceful night :grouphug:

doesnt sound goofy, thank you agian:thankyou:im gonna look like crazy for some, have a great night:goodvibes:

Cassiopeia
December 26th, 2007, 09:33 AM
You should never give human medications to cats or dogs unless specifically prescribed by your vet and only in the amounts prescribed by vet. Do an internet google search for more information.

SARAH
December 26th, 2007, 09:37 AM
gotta ask why no asprin?:D

Well, I was told it could kill them!

I'd given a little white willow bark to my kitten (the natural aspirin) but stopped right away! Not wanting to take any chances even though I would think the natural stuff was probably not as bad for him.

At least the amber helped :thumbs up

He's going for his booster shot tomorrow, so we'll get an idea of how he's doing, but to us he's fine and totally normal and healthy again!

CyberKitten
December 26th, 2007, 12:25 PM
OMG, pls do not give her aspirin. ASA in even small qualities can be lethal to cats. They just cannot digest it - they have a very delicate digestive system and asa is like poison to them. There are some good pain relief options and ask your vet for some.

One site writes:

Unlike humans, cats metabolize aspirin very slowly & it is extremely easy to give a cat a fatal overdose in as little as a single tablet. The biological half-life of aspirin is 37.5 hours in cats . Aspirin poisoning occurs when a carer intentionally gives the cat a high dosage of aspirin, gives aspirin over a prolonged period or accidentally gives a product containing aspirin.

It can lead to liver damage quite quickly actually and if she has FIP, that will only make it worse. If your vet recommended this, I might consider another vet! I do not want to scare you but you may be able to revers any damage by getting her to the vet as soon as possible and if that is not possible, induce vomiting and give her as many fluids as she will tolerate- her system needs to be more alkaline (aspirin is acidic and causes an inbalance in her electrolytes). Even the willow bark can cause this but is less toxic than the synthetic asa.

Here is a site on the Vet Merck Manual re ASA:

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/214009.htm

I hope your vet can help her and if nt, maybe you can find a specialist in another community. I am someone who drove 8 hrs to find a specialist for my bunny o sometimes we do have to travel if we want to save our fur babies!

Good luck!!! Pls let us know how she does!

StumpsMom
December 26th, 2007, 04:00 PM
How's the kitten today?

chris3232
December 26th, 2007, 08:40 PM
OMG, pls do not give her aspirin. ASA in even small qualities can be lethal to cats. They just cannot digest it - they have a very delicate digestive system and asa is like poison to them. There are some good pain relief options and ask your vet for some.

One site writes:

Unlike humans, cats metabolize aspirin very slowly & it is extremely easy to give a cat a fatal overdose in as little as a single tablet. The biological half-life of aspirin is 37.5 hours in cats . Aspirin poisoning occurs when a carer intentionally gives the cat a high dosage of aspirin, gives aspirin over a prolonged period or accidentally gives a product containing aspirin.

It can lead to liver damage quite quickly actually and if she has FIP, that will only make it worse. If your vet recommended this, I might consider another vet! I do not want to scare you but you may be able to revers any damage by getting her to the vet as soon as possible and if that is not possible, induce vomiting and give her as many fluids as she will tolerate- her system needs to be more alkaline (aspirin is acidic and causes an inbalance in her electrolytes). Even the willow bark can cause this but is less toxic than the synthetic asa.

Here is a site on the Vet Merck Manual re ASA:

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/214009.htm

I hope your vet can help her and if nt, maybe you can find a specialist in another community. I am someone who drove 8 hrs to find a specialist for my bunny o sometimes we do have to travel if we want to save our fur babies!

Good luck!!! Pls let us know how she does!thanks so much! she went to the vet today and is expected to make a full recovery!! :lovestruck: can u believe she just has a really bad cold?! her owy on her bellie is all good and he said she will be fine, just has a cold, i never seen a cat with a cold as bad as this poor girls! thank you for explaining the asprin and thank u for writing me im so grateful for this sit and for people like u to talk to about my babies!!

chris3232
December 26th, 2007, 11:07 PM
How's the kitten today?she is about the same:sick: but we took her to the vet agian today and they say she will be fine, he said she has a cold, she will be fine!:o thank god for that!! we just have to clean out her runny nose and make shure she gets plenty of can food! i feel much better, i think she will be fine!...thanks for asking

rainbow
December 27th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Welcome to the forum and glad your kitten is okay. :thumbs up We would love to see pics of her as well as your other cats and dogs. :cat: :dog:

chris3232
December 27th, 2007, 10:07 PM
Welcome to the forum and glad your kitten is okay. :thumbs up We would love to see pics of her as well as your other cats and dogs. :cat: :dog:

thank you for the welcome! :) I will be glad to get pics of all the animals up, im new to this forum and have to figure out how to post photos of them all! :shrug: we thought the kitten was better but now she is not eating, the vet says she just has a cold but I dont think a cold would be hitting her so hard, we are force feeding her now, starting today, she had a huge appitite till yesterday! found out also yesterday that the litter she came from came down with distemper 3 weeks after we brought her home, the vet new this but says she just has a sever cold, im not to sure he is correct. :evil: but we are doin everything we can for her, she just changed overnight

chris3232
December 27th, 2007, 10:20 PM
thanks so much! she went to the vet today and is expected to make a full recovery!! :lovestruck: can u believe she just has a really bad cold?! her owy on her bellie is all good and he said she will be fine, just has a cold, i never seen a cat with a cold as bad as this poor girls! thank you for explaining the asprin and thank u for writing me im so grateful for this sit and for people like u to talk to about my babies!!

well I dont have to much faith in the vet, she hasnt eaten today so we are force feeding her. Its been adout a day and a half since she has eaten and I dont think a bad cold would make her stop so abruply, have any ideas as to what would be a nutriousious liquid to do this? or website?

StumpsMom
December 28th, 2007, 08:42 PM
I'm sorry to hear this Chris :( I don't know of any liquids to give cats as I've only had dogs, but someone should come along soon with good advice I'm sure...is there an emergengy vet around you? Maybe you could call them?

chris3232
December 28th, 2007, 09:12 PM
I'm sorry to hear this Chris :( I don't know of any liquids to give cats as I've only had dogs, but someone should come along soon with good advice I'm sure...is there an emergengy vet around you? Maybe you could call them?
That was the emergency vet! :sad: but i talked to a diffrent one today and she said that the canned food was full of water and that was good enough for her, she is moving around today and i think that she will improve as we keep making her eat and giving her lots of love. Ive mostly only had dogs as well, the 3 cats i had threw my life were never sick so this is all new to me as well!:fingerscr as much as ive called the vet were on a first name basis:) They are are children as well as my kids are:lovestruck: she will be ok, we are not going to let her do anything but get better!!::cat: thanks for the reply:thumbs up

CyberKitten
December 28th, 2007, 09:23 PM
Actually a cold will make a kitten stop eating - it is one of he main illnesses that prevents eating. You see, kittens and cats use their sense of smell to determine so much, esp if food is good and what it smells like it how they ascertain that and so much more. So, yes, this makes sense. She likely has a stuffy nose and thus has lost her appetite.

You will have to keep force feeding her - keep giving her fluids. If you cannot get her to an emergency vet, with a syringe or even an eye dropper (I lived in a rural with a vet an hr away area growing up so one becomes inventive).

You should keep her nose clean with a wet cloth and that may help and also try offering her strong smelly foods(sardines, human grade tuna) and see if she east that, Keep giving her as much fluids as you can get into her 00 and if she is not eating, get her the vet again because cats unlike us have no reserves for later - no food can lead to liver or kidney disease. So, keep getting food into her somehow.

Here is what the Merck Vet Manual says:

Treatment is largely symptomatic and supportive, but broad-spectrum antibiotics are useful against secondary bacterial invaders (eg, amoxicillin with clavulanic acid, cephalosporins, trimethoprim/sulfa, fluoroquinolones, chloramphenicol) as well as directly against C psittaci . Tetracyclines are the most effective against C psittaci . Nasal and ocular discharges should be removed frequently for the comfort of the cat. Nebulization or saline nose drops may aid in the removal of tenacious secretions. Nose drops containing a vasoconstrictor (eg, 2 drops of ephedrine sulfate [0.25% solution] in each nostril, bid) and antibiotics may be helpful in reducing the amount of nasal exudate. Prolonged use of nasal decongestants, however, may result in rebound nasal congestion and worsening of clinical signs. A bland ophthalmic ointment containing antibiotics (tetracyclines in C psittaci infections) is indicated 5-6 times daily to prevent corneal irritation produced by dried exudate. If corneal ulcers occur in FVR infections (herpetic keratitis), ophthalmic preparations containing idoxuridine or acyclovir are indicated in addition to other antibiotic ophthalmic preparations. Lysine (250 mg, PO, bid-tid) interferes with herpetic viral replication and may reduce the severity of FVR infection. If dyspnea is severe, the cat can be placed in an oxygen tent. Fluids may be indicated to correct dehydration, and force-feeding may be necessary. Esophagostomy and gavage may be appropriate for alimentation of severely debilitated cats. Antihistamines (eg, chlorpheniramine maleate, PO, bid [8 mg for adults, 4 mg for kittens]) may be beneficial early in the course of the disease.


This essentially means in English that antibiotics may be necessary and if possible, she may have complications that affect her eyes. My advice is to keep cleaning her little nose- keep it clean so she can smell and maybe use a kind of salt and water solution when you are cleaning it- do not put it up her nose, use it clean with! Your vet cab give her antibiotics (amoxicillin - a safe form of penicillin is often very useful for colds in kids and cats as I have discovered over the yrs, esp if it not a virus (in which case it's useless) but if it is bacterial infection, it can prevent more serious problems.

Keep giving her fluids - hold her like you would a bottle baby (a kitten with no mother or who needs extra fluids) - and give her fluids like water and cat milk (Cats react poorly to cow;s milk so do not give her that - buy KMR and cat;'s milk at a pet store or even at a pharmacy or grocery store.) Your vet should be able to give you some.

Good luck - let us know how she makes out. Keep feeding her!! That is so important and if you can clear her nose - even with a tiny swab or perhaps beter , a tissue.(but be VERY cautious and careful - put it in a gentle solution of water ore salt and water) and try cleaning out any build up there and that may allow her to smell and she may want to eat. A cold in a cat just like in a child or adult human needs to run its course.

Keep her warm!!!! Put a blanket in the dryer or a towel and wrap her in it and put her close to your body so she has warmth.


GOOD LUCK!!!! :pray:

chris3232
December 28th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Actually a cold will make a kitten stop eating - it is one of he main illnesses that prevents eating. You see, kittens and cats use their sense of smell to determine so much, esp if food is good and what it smells like it how they ascertain that and so much more. So, yes, this makes sense. She likely has a stuffy nose and thus has lost her appetite.

You will have to keep force feeding her - keep giving her fluids. If you cannot get her to an emergency vet, with a syringe or even an eye dropper (I lived in a rural with a vet an hr away area growing up so one becomes inventive).

You should keep her nose clean with a wet cloth and that may help and also try offering her strong smelly foods(sardines, human grade tuna) and see if she east that, Keep giving her as much fluids as you can get into her 00 and if she is not eating, get her the vet again because cats unlike us have no reserves for later - no food can lead to liver or kidney disease. So, keep getting food into her somehow.

Here is what the Merck Vet Manual says:

Treatment is largely symptomatic and supportive, but broad-spectrum antibiotics are useful against secondary bacterial invaders (eg, amoxicillin with clavulanic acid, cephalosporins, trimethoprim/sulfa, fluoroquinolones, chloramphenicol) as well as directly against C psittaci . Tetracyclines are the most effective against C psittaci . Nasal and ocular discharges should be removed frequently for the comfort of the cat. Nebulization or saline nose drops may aid in the removal of tenacious secretions. Nose drops containing a vasoconstrictor (eg, 2 drops of ephedrine sulfate [0.25% solution] in each nostril, bid) and antibiotics may be helpful in reducing the amount of nasal exudate. Prolonged use of nasal decongestants, however, may result in rebound nasal congestion and worsening of clinical signs. A bland ophthalmic ointment containing antibiotics (tetracyclines in C psittaci infections) is indicated 5-6 times daily to prevent corneal irritation produced by dried exudate. If corneal ulcers occur in FVR infections (herpetic keratitis), ophthalmic preparations containing idoxuridine or acyclovir are indicated in addition to other antibiotic ophthalmic preparations. Lysine (250 mg, PO, bid-tid) interferes with herpetic viral replication and may reduce the severity of FVR infection. If dyspnea is severe, the cat can be placed in an oxygen tent. Fluids may be indicated to correct dehydration, and force-feeding may be necessary. Esophagostomy and gavage may be appropriate for alimentation of severely debilitated cats. Antihistamines (eg, chlorpheniramine maleate, PO, bid [8 mg for adults, 4 mg for kittens]) may be beneficial early in the course of the disease.


This essentially means in English that antibiotics may be necessary and if possible, she may have complications that affect her eyes. My advice is to keep cleaning her little nose- keep it clean so she can smell and maybe use a kind of salt and water solution when you are cleaning it- do not put it up her nose, use it clean with! Your vet cab give her antibiotics (amoxicillin - a safe form of penicillin is often very useful for colds in kids and cats as I have discovered over the yrs, esp if it not a virus (in which case it's useless) but if it is bacterial infection, it can prevent more serious problems.

Keep giving her fluids - hold her like you would a bottle baby (a kitten with no mother or who needs extra fluids) - and give her fluids like water and cat milk (Cats react poorly to cow;s milk so do not give her that - buy KMR and cat;'s milk at a pet store or even at a pharmacy or grocery store.) Your vet should be able to give you some.

Good luck - let us know how she makes out. Keep feeding her!! That is so important and if you can clear her nose - even with a tiny swab or perhaps beter , a tissue.(but be VERY cautious and careful - put it in a gentle solution of water ore salt and water) and try cleaning out any build up there and that may allow her to smell and she may want to eat. A cold in a cat just like in a child or adult human needs to run its course.

Keep her warm!!!! Put a blanket in the dryer or a towel and wrap her in it and put her close to your body so she has warmth.


GOOD LUCK!!!! :pray: Thank you so much . you have helped so much!! we have been holding her and treating her like a child, talked to a new vet today and they told me the exact things you have just told me!:thumbs up agian thank you! i have poor skills with cats as ive had more dogs in my life:o we wont let her get anything but better! agian thank you so much for all your information!:thankyou::cat: