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Outdoor cat

krdahmer
November 7th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Ok so here's the story, since this spring there has been a very friendly white and grey cat coming to visit me, he has had the exact same pink flea collar on since about May. He looks really young to me and is neutered but is out in super hot days in summer and days like today where it is wet and very very cold, so it is making me nervous not knowing for sure if he has a home to go to. There are many indoor/outdoor cats in this neighbourhood, I know, but he is here every day and will eat food I put down. I thought about putting out flyers to see who owns him but then came up with another plan last night after talking again with my dad. He suggested that I follow him, kind of joking, and then I had a mental picture of me running through people's yards and scaling fences to keep up with him:laughing:.... and then as I was laying down to sleep last night and it hit me.... he already wears a collar why not just attach something to it that says to call me. That way if he has a home the owners will hopefully call and then I can leave it alone (because everything in me wants to snatch him and find a home for him because in my opinion he is out too much and wandering way too far... I have seen him at night on a very very busy main street near by) and stop feeding him. (Although I am sure he'll still hang out here cause of my bird and squirrel feeders.)

So he came first thing this mornin about 8:50am, so I ran out to the PaulMacs and got a tag made and did get another collar, when I got back he wasn't here, so I waited till he came back again and slipped the collar and tag on him. I also gave him some Merricks and he gobbled it up. Only I feel a bit leery because when the tag made a noise he got a little spooked and ran a bit, but he came back and I picked him up and nuzzled him a bit. He still looked kinda weirded out when he left but not too panicked. So now I just guess I wait and hope that if he does have a home they at least call to find out why he is wearing a strange collar and tag. It just said PLEASE CALL, and then my number. (I am also hoping to get it back so I can use it if my cats lose or break theirs.)

So what do you think? Those of you who have outdoor cats... would you be offended? Would you call?

Oh and here is the guy in question... and if you know anyone in the Falls missing a cat.... that looks like him...:shrug:

And... as you can see he does look taken care of, which is why I didn't jump to the conclusion that he just isn't taken care of at all. Just think maybe the owners need a talking to about how dangerous it is that he roams so far. And that he's friendly enough that the neighbourhood kids pick him up and chase him-into the street in front of a car in fact the other day, man was I peeved at the neighbour lady who let them, and another time where I had to dart out to stop a driver who wasn't looking and almost hit him and me!... and that he is slapping at my cats through the basement windows tooooo early in the AM!!! LOL

ancientgirl
November 7th, 2007, 11:24 AM
He sure is a beautiful boy. Doesn't look like he's been harmed or been out on his own for long. He has to belong to someone.

I hope someone calls you. I know though most people have no problems putting their cats outdoors. They seem to think cats are made of steel and that nothing will happen to them outside the house. If you do get a call, I can only imagine the owner would say "Oh he's okay out there." :rolleyes:

krdahmer
November 7th, 2007, 11:29 AM
Well aside from just being happy that he does have somewhere warm to return to at night, I am going to relay to them that he has had 3 near misses with cars that I have witnessed and that not all people are as kind to animals as I am. He pooped in my garden all summer, and I couldn't care less about that but some might try to hurt him for it.

I know some think that its natural for cats to wander and be alone outdoors like that, but they will never ever convince me. I know there are dangers indoors too, but there are just so many you have no control over out there in the big bad world. :sad:

ancientgirl
November 7th, 2007, 11:32 AM
Yep, you are preaching to the choir here. I'd never ever allow mine to be outdoors. Even if I had a nice big house. The most I'd do is make sure I had a good screened patio that had a section of grass on it, just so they could be outside and still be safe.

krdahmer
November 7th, 2007, 03:59 PM
Ok yep I'm a genius!:thumbs up I didn't even have to wait long... he lives just at the top of the crescent across the street from us. The lady who owns him called right after work when she saw the collar... and thought it was a good idea, wasn't insulted or anything. She even walked over to return the collar so I showed her where he hangs out while she's at work. I guess he gets out in the am when she and her hubby and kids leave the house and is usually waiting there for them when they get home. So he has a nice warm home with people that obviously love him!:highfive: I'm so glad.

Funny thing is I recognized her face as soon as I saw her, my old roomate and I used to talk to her at BK, where she used to work for hours after the bar back when I was single and working at the casino. She told me his story too, she took him from a box of free to good home kittens at a local business. And he's 2 yrs old. And I was right he is fixed. Oh and his name is CeCe.

And while talking to her I found out that her next door neighbour has the calico cat I sometimes see outside too, so there's most of the outdoor kitties all accounted for... and a much better night's sleep for me tonight!

So any of you trying to place a roaming cat, just send it home with a tag and collar! Worked great for me.:D

ancientgirl
November 7th, 2007, 04:03 PM
I'm glad you found out who he belongs too. Did they know he was getting out? I'm sure she appreciated knowing that. At least he does have a loving home so that's a nice end to your story. Poor little guy was just looking for some company.

krdahmer
November 7th, 2007, 04:18 PM
Ya she didn't seem very interested in keeping him strictly indoors, so I didn't get too pushy, although I really wanted to:o. I'd rather keep it friendly so that in the future if she needed help or advice she would feel ok coming to me. (Not that I'm an expert but I get loads of experience with these 6!!) So I said that I would keep her # on hand and let her know if anything happened to him, or if I saw someone hurting him. And I asked if it was ok to keep giving him treats when I see him to encourage him to stick to this area, that is safer after all than him wandering across the busier streets nearby, she didn't have a problem with that. I am so relieved, I get a little panicky and OCD when I see cats roaming the streets:rolleyes:.

ancientgirl
November 7th, 2007, 04:24 PM
I have 3 cats around my apartment complex. But my only consolation is hey all look like they are being fed, one in particular I feed when i see her myself, and they stick to the apartment complex. So at least I know they aren't running out into busy streets. I still feel horrible when I see them. They should be indoors in loving homes.:sad:

chico2
November 7th, 2007, 04:56 PM
Dahmer,I was glad to read there was a happy(sort of)ending to this story.
We have about 3 cats roaming around here,I know where each one lives..
I live on a very busy street and it's incredibly stressful to see a cat cross.
One of the cats is a declawed orange cat,he tried desperatly to climb our high fence one day,but couldn't since he has no claws,can you imagine what would happen,had we had a cat-hating dog in the yard:yell:

white wrabbit
November 7th, 2007, 05:20 PM
i love happy endings and that is a really good idea i think with the call me!!

krdahmer
November 7th, 2007, 09:31 PM
Thanks... ya I hear ya Chico, I almost have a heart attack every time... I know that I am actively looking for animals when I drive, especially around here (and kids too) but I have seen a lot of the neighbours just barrelling by not even looking, talking on cells etc. I even stepped out in front of a car once for this particular cat... I knew the car would see me as they didn't seem to be even slowing down for him. I'm not always around though.:shrug::sad:

And Ancientgirl, my last apartment complex was so like that... always cats roaming, and although they weren't all mistreated or completely abandoned in my opinion they didn't get nearly the attention or love they deserved. (And we lived right beside a major highway, and I know of at least 3 cats who died on it... one was even a stray that I was trying to get to trust me, when I saw him there dead, well needless to say that was a very very weepy day.:sad: One of the others was one I was actually helping the neighbour take care of, he was getting used to staying in, then suddenly she decides he should be able to go out with her other cat- well the newer cat was from the country and did not know the area and was dead 2 days later... I still hate her for her laziness and indifference, and still cry over him, he was such a sweet and beautiful boy.:cry:)

I just wish that people and government alike believed like I do, that cats deserve and need the same attention and regulations as dogs for their own protection. They should have to be registered, tagged and leashed/supervised.

chico2
November 8th, 2007, 07:23 AM
A couple of years ago,I had to go to the street behind me and tell the lady the corpse of her beautiful Calico was just picked up off the street by HS:sad:
What does she do??? Her hubby got her another long-haired Calico,she too is roaming the street:yell:

krdahmer
November 8th, 2007, 09:38 AM
:frustrated: Ya that lady I was refering to who well IMO killed her cat and surrendered 2 more to me (My Buddy and Asker)... well she and her kids moved in with my BIL (don't ask... long irritating story) and he promptly gets them a DOG!!! She can't take care of her kids or her one cat... so ya lets get her a dog too. :frustrated::yell: :sad:

ancientgirl
November 8th, 2007, 09:42 AM
Holy cow. I tell you, some people should be outlawed from being responsible for any living beings at all!

krdahmer
November 8th, 2007, 09:48 AM
My mom always said it's ridiculous that we need lisences to drive and get married, but any old jerk can have kids and cats.

ancientgirl
November 8th, 2007, 09:59 AM
I almost said the same thing. It's true. If you want to mess up your own life and not take care of yourself, okay, but to not take care or abuse and neglect a child or worse, an animal that cannot take care of themselves is unacceptable.

The way I see it, at least a child can open a refrigerator and make a sandwich or something, a cat or dog or bird or whatever your pet is, can't And if you keep it outdoors, even worse. :frustrated:

krdahmer
November 13th, 2007, 09:33 AM
I love this little guy, but today he got the hose. He has started just since the time change, coming into my basement window wells and hissing and picking fights with my Smoke and Palomine through the windows. They are right under my bedroom!!! :frustrated::frustrated::sad:

I felt like such a monster but I haven't slept in a week!!! He comes at 6am, 7am, 9am, 10:30pm etc etc.... and my cats camp out in the basement like it's a stakeout. Smoke isn't eating properly and she doesn't even hang out in her favorite hidey spot anymore. So this morning I threw on the housecoat and sprayed him (just enough to get him away from the house). And it's my fault to start with for feeding him and for talking to him when I saw him at those windows (thought it was cute that he'd come looking for me and couldn't stand to see him out and wet and cold and alone all the time). Well now it is NOT cute. :cry: And these people... I mean how do you go to sleep not knowing where your cat is... or let him out at 4am and 6am, knowing how busy the streets are around here!!!!:mad::mad:

I don't want to have to spray him, I want him to come around, at least if he is hanging out in my yard he is safe from the road and who knows who else that might not be as patient as me and only use water. So today I am headed to the dollar store, I am gonna get some of that bristol board and cover my windows from the inside, just until they all get the hint. And I am moving their perch, which sucks for me and the cats as there will be no light down there and they won't be able to have the ground eye view of the squirrells and birds for a while. I'd love to just get one of those bubble things for the wells, but this is a rental and I don't have that kind of money. Eventually we may have to cover them with wood, but I'd like this to be temporary... that is where I work out and it helps to be able to see some outdoors.

Anyhow I feel like a big jerk as he was obviously coming here to get the lovin and attention he is not getting at home and here I am turning him out. I have no choice though.... if I don't get a decent night sleep soon I will be a raving lunatic!!!:crazy::yell:

So I'd also like to apologize for not repying to a lot of posts I normally would, I read them, just I'm too tired to type lately, and a wee bit scatterbrained from the lack of sleep. Thanks for listening though and if you have any ideas for a nice way to keep him away from those windows that won't cost me a whole lot of moola, I welcome any suggestions.:grouphug:

ancientgirl
November 13th, 2007, 09:56 AM
Poor little guy. I can understand your frustration though. Lack of sleep is enough to drive anybody nuts, I can attest to that.

Hopefully he won't hold it against you and come back, and not bug the other cats.

chico2
November 13th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Aww Dahmer,I understand,we have the same problem with a beautiful Calico that likes to tease my boys.
Knowing how Rocky reacts,we go out at least twice a day to scare her away from our backyard,except now we only need to pick up the hose and she's gone.:thumbs up
At least I know she's well taken care of,except for beeing outdoors,never at night though.
I guess the only thing you can do is cover up the window,maybe you can use a piece of plastic,something not clear,but enough to let the light in?
I too don't understand how people sleep with their cats outside,I guess they just don't care much:yell:

krdahmer
November 13th, 2007, 10:23 PM
Well I sprayed him at 7, and not him really, I just sprayed near him and the look he gave me was a heart breaker!! :sad: But he was back again at 9. Today I covered the back windows on the inside and tomorrow I am gonna talk to my dad about what he did to keep critters out, fashioning a chicken wire type cover for the well. Mom's idea. (She took me out for breakfast this morning, when I got to her house I was even having trouble making a sentence I was so tired!) I had a 5 hour nap this afternoon and I feel better now and am thinking a little more clearly. I am going to put out his treats (as I do want him to stick around) tonight so that they are there right in the am so he doesn't have to try and get me to come out. I just hope his owners aren't going to leave him out in the winter like they do now.... they let him out when they leave for work/school (4am-8am) and he has no way to get back in until they return home (4pm-6pm). That seems like a really long time to be out in the cold with no shelter. And what really gets me is that he was an indoor cat.... he got out a couple times and instead of correcting the behaviour they just left him out. That to me makes no sense!:shrug:

Here's hoping that he sticks around and that I get to sleep too. :fingerscr

chico2
November 14th, 2007, 06:56 AM
Dahmer,this poor little guy:sad:would it not be nice if we did not have to worry about other peoples animals..but the animals are the innocents,who unfortunately do not get to chose their owners.
If this little guy is out freezing in the winter,you have a very valid reason to complain,people are such morons:yell:
We have never gotten the Calico wet either,just seeing the water sends her scurrying home.
She is not at all afraid of me,she just looks at me and goes na,na,na,na:laughing:hubby is a different story,but it seems to be a game to her every day,did I mention she's a beautiful longhaired Calico:cat:

kiara
November 14th, 2007, 02:01 PM
What a cute story. I guess since he had a flee collar, it meant that he belonged to someone? Some cats just like to visit and get different food at people's houses! Many people are against cats roaming, but some cats just love to go outside. As long as they are fixed I guess it is okay. Not if you live on a busy street or if you have bylaws prohibiting roaming. We lived in the city many years ago, next to the train tracks and my female cat, was of course fixed and she loved going outside. She was a street wise cat and would take on any male. Either the fresh air, exercise or genes gave her a vey long life. She lived for 21 years and was always an outdoor cat. I guess we were very lucky that she did not get hurt or killed by a car!

krdahmer
November 14th, 2007, 04:57 PM
Ya you were lucky. It's not just cars etc that they have to worry about now though, not everyone putting out food for cats, etc are doing it to be kind... I've heard too many horror stories of them putting it out with the intention of killing and poisoning the animals. And whats to stop someone from taking them and doing God only knows to them, like that poor cat in that controversial movie a year or so ago... after the uproar after that I can't fathom how anyone would let any pet outdoors unsupervised. He is just lucky he picked my house.

He was here this afternoon when I pulled in, so I went and got some more treats for him, putting them out last night and covering the windows worked great I got a whole 8 hrs sleep!!! Woohoo! It's a temporary fix but it worked so thats great. He was a little skittish with me, but let me pet him and rubbed against my legs and I sat with him on the front porch for a bit. Even played peek a boo in the tree out front too, being careful of his little dagger claws! So I think all is forgiven. He really has to stop teasing the dog next door though, a beautiful golden boy... CeCe was like a foot past the reach of the leash... teasing him from under the BBQ. What a stinker.:rolleyes: