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What would you advise....

September 28th, 2007, 12:33 PM
I have a friend that I knwo through another message board. She recently adopted 2 shih tzu puppies. One of the girls have some bowel issues, after finding out they were eating purina food, i suggested she change to canidae or another quality food. She has done so and the one dog I think is doing great, but the 2nd one is still having issues, yesterday her stool was mucusy and while not totall all out dirreaha the woman felt it was going that way.
I do know that the pups have been to the vets and the one was put put on a med to slow her bowels down and from what I understand it works BUT only as long as she is taking them, when she goes off the cycle starts over again.
I suggested pumpkin but sensibly she doesn't want to try to much at this point masking the problem instead of discovering it. They have been wormed and will be again.

I thought maybe she had allergies, she is eating candiae lamb and rice formula. Lamb is said to be hypallergenic. Barring the fact that they are being wormed and will be again, pup is fine when on the meds. Other pup is doing great, does anyone have any suggestions on what else could be going on? I thought maybe irritable bowel, maybe something in her chewy treats but they have been taken away. I cannot say for certain that the pup is complaining or suffering from gas, I can ask if I need to.....Would suggesting that the vet do a liver panel and some blood work be over the top? I know she has put a butt load of money into these girls already and she knows its not done yet but I am just looking for some advise, she is stressed out and very worried about her pup.


September 28th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Mucous in the feces is a sign of irritation in the colon and can be caused from:

Parasites, virus, bacteria, allergy or Irritable Bowel Disease. Virus and Bacteria can be determined by blood work and parasites can be determined by a fecal sample. Allergies: you can have your friend try different foods, always grain free and good quality of course. Allergy tests are very expensive to do at the vet and some trial and error on her part rather than paying for a vet may work.

Some people on this board may be able to suggest common allergins in dogs as a starting point.

I would suggest giving the dog some probiotics to help with digestion.

IBD has no cure as it is an immunity disorder and therapy should be discussed with the vet.

September 28th, 2007, 01:43 PM
Lamb is not hypoallergenic as such - a dog can develop sensitivities to any ingredient they've been exposed to. Lamb was thought for a long time to be a good allergy food but now that it's become fairly common a lot of dogs are sensitive to it. What you need to look for is a single protein/single carb food that contains proteins that the dog has never had before. When Tommy has foods that he's sensitive to he ends up with mucousy, soft stools too, and he was always fine while on medication but crappy without it until we discovered what foods he could eat. She should really look at what was in the purina and what is in the canidae and try a food that has completely different ingredients - if it's an allergy, she should see improvements in a short while (we found with Tommy that we can see a difference in a couple of days, although with some dogs it can take weeks for their system to settle down).

We also had great success using digestive enzymes and acidophilus to help his digestive system stay on track. I can understand her wanting to find the problem, not just mask it, but they really helped us as Tommy's system was growing.

Just an FYI, our specialist was positive Tommy had IBD but there are other issues that mirror it when pups are young. We found that Tommy actually had something called age-related lack of normal immunity - basically, his digestive system took a long time to become strong enough to work properly. They don't seem to know how or why this happens, but most pups outgrow it somewhere between 7-12 months of age (as Tommy is doing, but he did develop allergies while he was ill). If the pup is young, it's a possibility.