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Constipation in cats

Chris21711
September 27th, 2007, 09:27 AM
One of our cats likes to go to the bathroom outside (my flower garden!), especially for No. 2's. When the cold weather comes, he is reluctant and until he comes to terms with using the litter box goes through a stage of constipation. I know I read in a thread not too long ago that some different brands of food help this condition. For the last three years with veterinary intervention and lactulose, we have got him through it. Could someone direct me to the thread where different foods were recommended?

badger
September 27th, 2007, 10:04 AM
Definitely feed him canned food, so he gets lots of liquid.
Pumpkin is good (not pumpkin pie mix but the real thing).
Also unflavoured unsweetened Metamucil, sprinkled over his food.
Lactulose is far stronger than any of these, btw.
Is his litter box in a private area? Maybe if you relocated it/tried a new kind of litter, he would be more inclined to use it.

Chris21711
September 27th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the advice. The litter box is in a private area. I will try the pumpkin, would you buy a fresh pumpkin and mush it up or can you buy it frozen? He gets canned food daily and drinks water. He has very large stools for a cat (he is a big boy). Once he gets over the initial transition of winter he is fine. Nevertheless when winter starts approaching, I will definately try the pumpkin and metamucil..Thanks again.

Frenchy
September 27th, 2007, 11:29 AM
I will try the pumpkin, would you buy a fresh pumpkin

They sell it (cans) at the grocery stores , but be careful , don't buy the pie filling , but the pure one. If nothing works , (I am not crazy about vet's food but it did work for one of my cats) you may want to try Medi-Cal High Fiber.

sugarcatmom
September 27th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the advice. The litter box is in a private area. I will try the pumpkin, would you buy a fresh pumpkin and mush it up or can you buy it frozen? He gets canned food daily and drinks water. He has very large stools for a cat (he is a big boy). Once he gets over the initial transition of winter he is fine. Nevertheless when winter starts approaching, I will definately try the pumpkin and metamucil..Thanks again.

If you do use Metamucil (same thing as psyllium husk/powder) make sure you add a couple tablespoons of extra water or you could make the constipation worse.

RolandsMom
September 27th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Pumpkin is good for constipation! they sell it at the supermarket in cans (and i agree, be careful you dont get the pie pumpkin!) what i would suggest though is take it slow! try a teaspoon or so first cause its pretty effective! and harmless at least! and they really seem to like the taste!

Chris21711
September 28th, 2007, 09:57 AM
Thanks everyone for the advice. I will make sure not to buy the pie filling, I'll get a can and keep it on standby. Hopefully this winter he will be a bit smarter and use the litter box without a second thought, or maybe we won't get a winter in Ontario this year...........:fingerscr

Chris21711
October 29th, 2007, 10:08 AM
I tried the pumpkin pure and he smelt it and looked at me like I was some kind of alien, I then added a small amount to some canned food, same result. At the moment he is constipated again and I have started on the lactulose three times a day and not even that is doing the trick. I also have some pills called cisipride that helps anal muscles (as mentioned before he has large stools) but I'm not too sure about using those again. My vet is away today but returns tomorrow, so I guess that is where we will be heading. Any other advice is well appreciated. The Metamucil I did not yet try, I would like to talk to my vet first.

Love4himies
October 29th, 2007, 10:31 AM
You may want to try a high quality food that contains Psyllium Husks/seeds for adding fibre to your cats diet. Also oatmeal is another good fibre if you cat can digest it.

Chris21711
October 29th, 2007, 01:01 PM
I will go to Ryan's and see what I can come up with. I googled but could not find a specific food. Right now he is on Merrick canned only, I'm not feeding dry food at all. If you know of any particular food, please let me know. Thanks.

sugarcatmom
October 29th, 2007, 01:31 PM
I will go to Ryan's and see what I can come up with. I googled but could not find a specific food. Right now he is on Merrick canned only, I'm not feeding dry food at all. If you know of any particular food, please let me know. Thanks.

You can add your own psyllium to the Merrick. Make sure to add lots of extra water (in fact, many times constipation in cats is actually due to not enough hydration).

3) Dietary fiber acts as a bulk-forming laxative. The benefits of insoluble (poorly fermentable) fiber, such as from wheat bran, cereal grains and psyllium, are to improve or normalize colonic motility by distending the colonic lumen, they increase colonic water content, they dilute luminal toxins (such as bile acids, ammonia and ingested toxins) and they increase the rate of passage of ingested materials thereby reducing the exposure of the colonocyte to toxins, while increasing the frequency of defecation. Suggested doses are: psyllium (MetamucilTM, 1-4 tsp mixed with food q12-24h), canned pumpkin (1-4 tbsp PO q24h), coarse wheat bran (1-2 tbsp with food PO q24h).

From some info on megacolon: http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2003&PID=6622&O=Generic

Chris21711
October 30th, 2007, 09:01 AM
Thanks for the article Sugarcatmom, I printed it off as I will have to read it a few times to absorb. I did notice that Cisipride, one of the medications he was on last year, has been withdrawn from the market. He's off to the Vet today as it is not getting any better. They will give him any enemas as required and hydrate him while they do that. This has worked in the past. After that I will put Psyllium in his food as necessary. Thanks again for the article.

Chris21711
November 8th, 2007, 09:48 AM
Well he was at the Vet's for 3 days and $750 later, after they scrapped me off of the floor, I bought him home. They gave me some Hills food to see how that goes, he hates it with a passion and will not eat it. The highest fibre kibble in Ryan's was Royal Canin Diet it only has 9%, I don't know if that is enough. So right now he is on that with Merrick can (which obviously does not have that much fibre). I am mixing Metamucil with it, the man at Ryan's said to start him off on 1/4 tsp per feeding, is that enough? He is also on Lactulose and Cisipride 3 times a day. Would appreciate advise on how much Metamucil I should put in his food.

The Vet also mentioned megacolon and thanks to Sugarcatmom, I knew what she was talking about from the article you guided me to. She did say that there is an operation available (Specialist, not her) but, there are no guarantees that it would be successful in solving the problem.

I was thinking that if anyone knows of a food that helps to make stools smaller that might also help. Right now he still goes out for business, but I'm having trouble finding his goodies, so I hope it is all working.

Sorry to make it long, but I need advice.

badger
November 8th, 2007, 10:26 AM
If he is on lactulose and Cisipride, I would not add Metamucil. I know you have a problem getting him to use the litter-box, but I'd confine him for twenty-four hours and check out his progress before adding anything else. More is not necessarily better and overstimulating his system could be harmful. In fact, if things look OK, I'd try reducing or even withdrawing one of the two meds.
And if he hates the Hill's, for me it would be a no-brainer, get him something else. How about a good holistic food like Origen and continue giving some Merrick's as well? Most high-fiber food just has added grains, which are of no use to him nutritionally and it will produce more frequent stools, which is not really the aim here, you just want his system to tick along.
So find out first if what you have him on already is working and go from there.

Chris21711
November 8th, 2007, 10:44 AM
I didn't keep him on the Hill's, I did say that he is on the Royal Canin for now. By keeping him confined, he is capable of just not going, I've done it before. As it stands he is only going out once a day and not using the litter box. Prior to this he was at least using it to pee, now not even that, although I did change the type of litter, does anyone think that that could be part of the problem?

sugarcatmom
November 8th, 2007, 11:40 AM
IPrior to this he was at least using it to pee, now not even that, although I did change the type of litter, does anyone think that that could be part of the problem?

Yup, the new litter could be an issue. Can you go back to the old one? Some cats just don't like change. :rolleyes:

Chris21711
November 8th, 2007, 12:02 PM
I will go back to the old litter. I'm off out now and will get some, Why do they have to be so picky. I was poking around outside and found ONE of his goodies, I'll take that as a good sign. Thanks for the help........Chris