Question about siamese cats

One of my coworker is finally ready to adopt another cat , after her beloved cat past away a few weeks ago. She has asked me to keep my eyes open , she wants to adopt a siamese cat. I asked her why ?

1. They are "doggy" like (that I've heard before)
2. They don't shed as much as other cats :confused: :confused:

Is number 2 true ? :confused:

Not sure about number 2, but if those are the characteristics she is looking for, she may also want to consider a Ragdoll. They are trainable as they like to please their owners, and they don't shed too much. I have trained my
5 year old cat, who I believe is Ragdoll (he was a rescue), to walk very well on a leash. He has medium length fur and never needs to be brushed. They are very cuddly and go limp when they are picked up so they are easy to transport.

Uh...Goosey can do a credible imitation if you look at him sideways in a dark room :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I think dog like is not breed specific. Look at tigger, he is a rescues domestic long hair, but he really thinks he is a dog. Follows us around all the time, walks well on a leash, is even crate trained( his own free will) So I really do not believe it to be just specific breeds. They can always go to a rescue, and pick out one that will meet her needs.
As for shedding less, so untrue, co worker from work owns a seal point siamese, and never stops complaining about the shedding. LOL

I have a siamese cross (looks purebred) and the only thing "doggy" about him is that he will play like one. He takes flying leaps at my dogs and attacks their necks. :rolleyes: And, he sheds more than my long haired cat. :eek:

Uh...Goosey can do a credible imitation if you look at him sideways in a dark room :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


:laughing: :laughing: .....good one. :D We're going to find Goose a good home yet. :fingerscr :fingerscr :goodvibes: :goodvibes:

I think most of the orientals are more dog like, in that they are more talky, they're in your face more not quite as aloof. Shedding however, there's no difference. A woman I worked with kept Siamese cats for years, and she kept the lint roller brush people in business. :laughing:

Cindy

A friend of mine has 5 cats,3 Siamese 19,16 and 5 yrs old.
I don't know about shedding,but the 19yr old is never leaving her owners side and boy is she loud:yell: the 16 yr old male is shy and quiet aggressive with the others,the 6 yr old is a cuddle-bum.
I really do not think it's about breeds,I could say my cats are dog-like,they are obedient,come running when we call,talk to us a lot and Rocky especially won't leave my side.
I think Goose sounds like a perfect match:thumbs up

A relative of mine used to have a siamese. All I remember about her was lots of fur everywhere (shedding) and she talked alot. !

I have had many Siamese and they do indeed shed. They do however have less hair than say some cats - especially long haired kitties or even some DSH ones. I am of the opinion to be honest that people should know what they are getting into with a meezer. They are loving cats - and I have to say I loathe the expression that they are the most "doglike" of felines, a term developed because they are extremely intelligent (as are many other breeds) and like to fetch and play in much the same way as dogs. In some instances, they can also be very attached to one person and like to be picked up and cuddled - which is not the case with every cat. It is not the same with every Siamese for that matter!!!!

I think these in the end are all stereotypes and to get the kind of cat she wants, she will have to look at the mother and kittens and check out the background and genetics. There really is no such entity as a cat that does not shed. I have 2 Sphynx cats and they do not shed but they also cost thousands of dollars. So of course do some Siamese - like a show quality one who meets the standard PLUS! If she wants one who does not shed for health reasons (ie allergies), even Sphynx kitties will cause problems because if is the saliva and not so much the hair that can cause the issues. (Tho hair can as well. )If it is for cleanliness reasons, she is going to be cleaning up after a cat anyway - and my Sphynx are more work than a hairy Persian because they must be washed so often - they can become oily so there is no way out with cats. Either you are a cat person or you're not, I think.

So, I am not sure her reasons for wanting a Siamese are the best to be honest. Siamese are very demanding of your attention and if they do not get it - or something to keep them busy, they can get into trouble - while seeking for something to do,. They have to be busy - sort of like having two year olds. They are high energy and need to be playing and active and are not for someone who wants a laid back cat that requires little time and work. I agree that if that is what she wants, her best bet is a Ragdoll or a Ragamuffin. They do however shed and have longer hair. You can't worry about shedding when you have a pet - it's part of the fun of having a cat or dog or rabbit.

The Siamese I grew up with shed a lot. He was short haired and talked A LOT. He did fetch like a dog, though.

Two of the cats I got in my early 20's and were with me for almost 20 years were Siamese (long haired) and both shed quite a bit. The male was LOUD. Talked A LOT.

Right now I have 3 Ragdolls crosses, which of course are similar looking to the Siamese and I have to say shed less than any cats I've been around.

As far as getting one "dog like' or with any other traits, I'd say contact a rescue that fosters them and have your friend spell out exactly what she is looking for. I'm sure they would be able to find a cat that meets here desires. Some people wants cats who are cuddly and always around, others wants ones that are out of sight most of the time. Hearing from someone who fosters them is the best way to find this out, of course.

Uh...Goosey can do a credible imitation if you look at him sideways in a dark room :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

This morning when she started the conversation , I could see her coming a mile away. But I was sure she would have ask me to find the best cat for her , one who's already up for adoption. I have already talked to her about Martin and Goose weeks ago but I just asked her if she knew someone interested. I knew she wasn't ready at that time . I was sooo disapointed when she talked about the siamese. I tought she wanted to save one of "ours". I will e-mail her pics of Martin , Goose and Lola. You know , no pressure :evil:

Billy is definitely a chien-chat; his favourite thing is to follow me down the alley to the community garden and race around among the boxes, pretending he owns the place. He has issues with most other cats (he is afraid of them) and lives a solitary life, inside and outside. When the other cats stress him out (even friendly overtures are rebuffed), he exits, but stays close by. When he's alone with me, he is so relaxed and goofy, loves to play and curl up on the bed. I feel terrible that his life is so curtailed, because in the right situation - ie him and his human - I know he would be damn near perfect. So maybe you could tell your friend about Bill as well :pray:

Billy sounds like a good match for her. :fingerscr :goodvibes:

Billy is a beauty,ragged ears and all:lovestruck: to me,a cat is a cat,whether it be Siamese or a beat up Tom.
If this woman wants a"dog-like"cat,maybe she should get a "cat-like"little dog,Poodles don't shed much:dog: :cat:

I hope she rescues a cat, there are so many great cats in shelters! If she wants a friendly outgoing cat, there are many of those in the shelters too, whether they be Siamese, mixes of or otherwise. For me, I can usually spot the ones that are 'dog-like' if you will. If she asks around, she should be able to find someone to help her find a cat with the qualities she wants. I've had a couple cats that are very outgoing, some would say like a dog, and neither was a Siamese. I do like Siamese but agree they are not for everyone. One of mine fits the bill she seems to want, and is a black short haired cat. She is very friendly, loves to play and doesn't shed much. She loves to be held, although when is on her terms, and she follows me from room to room, or rather, she runs into the next room when she figures out where I am going! :crazy: I found her in the 'sick cat' room at my local shelter.

One thing I have noticed is that many male orange tabby cats seem outgoing and 'dog-like'. Definitely not true of all of them, however, it is just something I've noticed. Not sure why personality would be associated with coat-type, though, so maybe this is just coincidence in my life.

Billy sounds absolutely wonderful :cloud9: .

My siamese was one of those "dog-types". He walked on a leash, was extremely social and very adabtable. I do think a lot of that was just because he was raised that way and was exposed to all those things at a young age. He did shed A LOT! and he was an extremely vocal cat. Let your friend know that ignoring a siamese vocalizing cat is damn near impossible :frustrated: :lovestruck: .

I still miss my boy :sad: .

ooohhh Billy is too cute ! `

So she saw my e-mail (told me I was a bad girl :laughing: ) she is moving in her new house at the end of the month. Once she settles in , she will make a decision. I will ask her to show her BF the pics , he's a big softy for cats :thumbs up

I still miss my boy :sad: .

I know how you feel TeriM :grouphug:

http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/ragdoll.html

Here is a link for breed profile on Ragdolls.

L4H,wow,they are beautiful:lovestruck:
Frenchy,I think your friend should take Billy,Goose and Martin,one cat just will not do it:D :pray:

Frenchy,I think your friend should take Billy,Goose and Martin,one cat just will not do it:D :pray:


I think Frenchy and her friend should go visit Badger. ;)

Frenchy,I think your friend should take Billy,Goose and Martin,one cat just will not do it:D :pray:

I don't think a cat should ever live a solitary life, minimum 2 cats per house! Much easier on the human slaves as 2 cats will keep each other occupied.

Oh yes,visit Badger,great idea:thumbs up
It just depends on how much this lady likes cats,if her first concern is shedding,I've never had a cat who doesn't,maybe she's not ready for a kitty...oh and scratching etc...:cat:

Hi. Years ago, I adopted a siamese cat from a friend leaving the country. I'm never sure about all this 'breed specific' stuff, especially when it comes to cats. Makes me uncomfortable. Of course genetics are important, but like people, the real determining factors are the upbringing, home life (in humans we would say socio-economic). But that's another topic.

Of the 70 or so cats that I have lived with at different times (rescues I fostered, plus never less than 5 permanent residents), I can say that the Siamese was the most talkative and high strung of everyone. Also for some reason, I was really allergic to her. Only experienced that with two other cats years later, both calicos. So I don't know if that is a Siamese thing, but there you go.

I think Frenchy and her friend should go visit Badger. ;)

na na na , I don't have to go , I already have 2 cats / 3 dogs , what if I meet Goose and and and .....

Her choice just expanded. Look what wandered into my yard this morning. It's a girl, very small. I'm desperately trying to find the owner, no more space for this one, but if she got snatched up before that....:crazy:

Badger, they sure know whose house to show up at. :angel: She is a cutie and not very old. I hope you can locate the owner. :fingerscr :goodvibes:

na na na , I don't have to go , I already have 2 cats / 3 dogs , what if I meet Goose and and and .....


and and and .....that's the point. :laughing:

2 cats + 3 dogs does not balance your yin and yang. :D

And, Goose is :lovestruck:

Badger,what a little princess:lovestruck: you can clearly see she's a girl-kitty.
I am glad she found your house:laughing:

It's a girl, very small.

She's so cute ! :lovestruck: She looks very dignify !

She is adorable, completely unfazed by the other cats (although she makes them a bit nervous :laughing: ), flips around the apartment or sprawls on the window sills like Nefertiti. I'd forgotten how charming kittens are.

I have had many Siamese and they do indeed shed. They do however have less hair than say some cats - especially long haired kitties or even some DSH ones. I am of the opinion to be honest that people should know what they are getting into with a meezer. They are loving cats - and I have to say I loathe the expression that they are the most "doglike" of felines, a term developed because they are extremely intelligent (as are many other breeds) and like to fetch and play in much the same way as dogs. In some instances, they can also be very attached to one person and like to be picked up and cuddled - which is not the case with every cat. It is not the same with every Siamese for that matter!!!!

I think these in the end are all stereotypes and to get the kind of cat she wants, she will have to look at the mother and kittens and check out the background and genetics. There really is no such entity as a cat that does not shed. I have 2 Sphynx cats and they do not shed but they also cost thousands of dollars. So of course do some Siamese - like a show quality one who meets the standard PLUS! If she wants one who does not shed for health reasons (ie allergies), even Sphynx kitties will cause problems because if is the saliva and not so much the hair that can cause the issues. (Tho hair can as well. )If it is for cleanliness reasons, she is going to be cleaning up after a cat anyway - and my Sphynx are more work than a hairy Persian because they must be washed so often - they can become oily so there is no way out with cats. Either you are a cat person or you're not, I think.

So, I am not sure her reasons for wanting a Siamese are the best to be honest. Siamese are very demanding of your attention and if they do not get it - or something to keep them busy, they can get into trouble - while seeking for something to do,. They have to be busy - sort of like having two year olds. They are high energy and need to be playing and active and are not for someone who wants a laid back cat that requires little time and work. I agree that if that is what she wants, her best bet is a Ragdoll or a Ragamuffin. They do however shed and have longer hair. You can't worry about shedding when you have a pet - it's part of the fun of having a cat or dog or rabbit.


I completely agree. My aunt had a show quality siamese that lived to around 20 yrs old (Originally Came from a show cat of hers, but I was too little when that cat died to remember it), and I've had several siamese mixes that had the same personality as hers. Even cats that have a high percentage of siamese blood are LOUD, actual siamese are even louder.
They sound like a baby crying, and this will go on and on if you're not giving them enough attention, and for some cats they just like to talk. I don't think some people understand what I mean by sounds like a baby crying....I mean sounds like a baby crying....just as loud just as annoying if you can't handle it.

They are very smart cats, and they do tend to be dog like, but they want ALL your attention. If someone is not willing to make their siamese a part of the family and treat it similar to a child, they basically shouldn't get one IMO. Siamese seem to like plenty of mental stimulation, and if you don't give them that they will find other ways to get it, which can be a bad thing.

As far as them not shedding, that is completely not true. My mixes and all the true siamese I've known, show type or not, shed just like any other cat and can shed a whole ton during certain times of the year.

I love siamese but they're not for everyone. As an example of noise volume, which no one seems to get until they hear one in person, I had an indoor/outdoor siamese mix as a kid (don't flame me, I was a kid! :p ). He disappeared for a few days, in someone's house I'm assuming since he was the friendliest cat I ever had. He would go up to anyone, never even stuck his claws out if you picked him up, never scratched anyone in his life.
Anyway, he appeared back home at the window when we were all asleep, windows shut, me in the back room, and I could hear this kitty all the way from my bedroom meowing as loud as he could, he woke me up.

Her choice just expanded. Look what wandered into my yard this morning. It's a girl, very small. I'm desperately trying to find the owner, no more space for this one, but if she got snatched up before that....:crazy:

Ahh very small means less fur on the body, results in less shedded fur on the floor and furniture, ehh, ehh this could be a viable option!!! Pluss, mitted kitties are the best:lovestruck:.

badger, do you think she could be doggie-like too?

badger, do you think she could be doggie-like too?

She is absolutely fearless, so I wouldn't be surprised. To see her flirt and dance around my grumpy old bachelors is quite a sight.