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A lot of anger and accusations for a pet board

woodbyter
May 16th, 2004, 04:39 AM
I'm a new pet board member and as such I do not have the historical knowledge of how the board and it's members behaved or reacted in the past. It is not my place or intent to condone or condem the operation of the board or the conduct of it's members. And as more than one person has pointed out if you don't like what you read-don't continue reading it.
Unfortunately, seems to be the best policy.

Luba
May 16th, 2004, 07:05 AM
Woody let me tell ya, it was never like this before. It all coincidentally started happening after a newbie didn't like something we had to say and ended up getting several people to join in attack mode.

Enuff said!

chico2
May 16th, 2004, 09:28 AM
Woody,we are all lovable sweet people :D interested in the wellfare of ALL animals,even the human kind.
In any Bulletin-Board,there will be disagreements,,I personally do not really get angry at my PC,I like a real person to slap around :D
Stupid and unreal questions,bordering on animal-abuse,will get advice accordingly.I would never allow myself to get angry over a stupid post,I have cried many tears though,over little Lucy and her moms valiant struggle,or the unfortunate accident with Tracker and been elated over good news of animals being brought back to health.But angry,NO,just astounded at some peoples stupidity.
Like Karin,I dislike stupidity and it comes in all colours and nationalities.

Goldenmom
May 16th, 2004, 09:30 AM
Woody,we are all lovable sweet people :D interested in the wellfare of ALL animals,even the human kind.
In any Bulletin-Board,there will be disagreements,,I personally do not really get angry at my PC,I like a real person to slap around :D
Stupid and unreal questions,bordering on animal-abuse,will get advice accordingly.I would never allow myself to get angry over a stupid post,I have cried many tears though,over little Lucy and her moms valiant struggle,or the unfortunate accident with Tracker and been elated over good news of animals being brought back to health.But angry,NO,just astounded at some peoples stupidity.
Like Karin,I dislike stupidity and it comes in all colours and nationalities.


THAT was a very good post!

Luba
May 16th, 2004, 11:56 AM
Laura I don't believe any of us thought you were a bad person.

In many situations, people do things differently.

I'm not going to go into detail about every situation you mentioned because I think we already did that.

Keep an open mind however and realize that there are as of late many posters on here that are 'fake' and just trying to cause a stink. Some of us have been on here for a long time and have come to see trends among certain individuals...so keep that in mind.

I hope this board turns a corner into a more positive experience for everyone again.

MBRA518
May 16th, 2004, 02:05 PM
Woody let me tell ya, it was never like this before. It all coincidentally started happening after a newbie didn't like something we had to say and ended up getting several people to join in attack mode.

Enuff said!

Well... seeing that is how I got here, I take offence. What happened was a newbie stood up for herself when "she felt" she was being attacked for being different, and some firends backed her up with arguments they felt strongly about.

I know everyone here has good intentions, but really, some of you can be quite rude about it at times.

Whenever you see a post you feel passionately about I think everyone needs take a deep breath and take the "catch more bees with honey" approach to answering it. Sure educate people if you feel the need and present your view... maybe even consider different ideas... maybe not adopt those ideas, but certainly see that different things work for different people and/or pets.

I agree that the fake posts are silly, but the way every totally falls into it and starts attacking the trolls is even funnier... That's why they do it... someone is on the other end of that keyboard laughing their buns off.

So don't feed the trolls... they are looking to upset you and get you going... if you feel the need to post to them... get a few facts about the situation encase it is real.... and leave it at that. They will leave if you ignore them.

That's my 2 cents

Luba
May 16th, 2004, 02:29 PM
I am really tired of explaining everything I say and I've rewritten this response 5 times thinking 'oh no I hope that word or how I wrote it didn't offend someone'. In particular since you pointed out MBRA that you were offended.

Then a flash of light went on in my head and said GET REAL! This is ridiculous.

Catt31
May 16th, 2004, 03:02 PM
LMAO Luba!! I agree! I did the same thing, then opted to just not post at all!!

Unfortunately, communicating online is always iffy.....people can't hear tones of voices or sarcasm in the voice of the speaker, and people can't hear the sincerity or sadness either. Thats the way of the 21st century!! Guess we all just have to help those who need it, and ignore those who seek attention!! Thats my 5 pennies worth!! :D

Karin
May 16th, 2004, 04:15 PM
At some point here I think we all need to let everything go. Sort it out later, get on with business.

Agree to disagree and we all do. Do not reply to the troll's or Tracey's (name from another board)
Start over...and be aware.

* jumping off of the soap box*

MBRA518
May 16th, 2004, 07:30 PM
was your friend rescuekitty? if so... how is she and the kittens?

I just know her from another board, but last I heard the kitty's were doing well.

MBRA518
May 16th, 2004, 07:48 PM
I am really tired of explaining everything I say and I've rewritten this response 5 times thinking 'oh no I hope that word or how I wrote it didn't offend someone'. In particular since you pointed out MBRA that you were offended.

Then a flash of light went on in my head and said GET REAL! This is ridiculous.

Well... I'm not exactly stewing over it or anything ;)

I think no matter what you write you run the risk of offending someone, but as long as you don't go into attck mode - which don't get me wrong I know you are only concerned about the animals - but you do get your back up at time. Like I said you catch more bees with honey.

Bill & Bob
May 16th, 2004, 09:11 PM
I still am not convinced that the two people, whom I am assuming are being alleged to be the same person, are not in fact the same person.

But anyhoo, that's a minor issue. The real issue is what I've seen discussed on here so many times now it's not even funny anymore. When you are discussing things on the internet there will be problems. When you are talking about things that people are passionate about, there will be more problems and problems will turn into explosions all the faster.

It's been said on here lots of times already, but either people aren't reading it and internalizing it or they are just thinking about the next nasty thing they can say.

Hey, I've jumped on people for stupid decisions they've made or are going to make on here too. And I don't regret it at all. Nasty personal comments are a different thing, however when you are critiquing someones decisions about thier pets, they'll all be taken personally.

Anyhoo, that's my two cents. Canadian currency, so about 1.5 American.

Hope things turn around, or else it could be easy to just consider this a soap opera and watch it from afar.

Luba
May 16th, 2004, 10:04 PM
Not trying to convince you Bill, they're my thoughts! They don't have to be yours :D no worries!

woodbyter
May 17th, 2004, 04:12 AM
Jumping to conclusions-that is.
LOL
:D

heidiho
May 17th, 2004, 09:48 AM
mbra518.I agree with you,there are some people put here that made me feel like i had to defend myself,if you dont like my questions dont answer....

mona_b
May 17th, 2004, 10:44 AM
All I can say is this site has changed...And that's sad in my eyes..... :(

The "new" ones need to go through the old posts....And I mean even back a year...Yes,I was "new" at one time... :D ..I have learned alot from the regulars.And they have helped me.Especially with my deaf physco kitten Casper.The newbies on here don't know the crap WE have been through.We have been cursed and yelled at from people who were watching their animal die and coming on here asking for help instead of taking the animal to the vet.One in peticular was a man who cursed us when we told him to take his dying Rottie to a vet ASAP.He spent 2-3 days cursing us saying he knew it was Kennel Cough cause he read up on it on the net.Well guess what,his dog died.And expected sympathy from us.The only sympathy we gave was to the poor dog that suffered.NOT him.And we have been jumped on for answering a person.And answering in a nice way,not rude.And then there are the ones who only give bits and pieces of info and we are supposed to be mind readers?...As for the comment about jumping on people who buy from pet stores,no we don't jump on them.We let them know where these puppie/kittens come from,since they didn't know.Even the ones who by from a BYB...But what is done is done.Then we focus on how we can help the poor pup/kitten.We have educated a couple on here.And they have realized the difference between a BYB and a responsible breeder...The real BIG problem is people are not reading our answers the right way.As was mentioned by a few.And I'm sorry,but there are a few here that I have noticed not trying to help out others that come on asking for help.They only respond to posts like these ones.... :confused:

So let me suggest something.Lets make these posts a dead issue once and for all.PLEASE... :D

daisy18216
May 17th, 2004, 12:58 PM
I need to put my 2 cents in here.

When I first joined this board EVERYONE WAS VERY NICE TO ME. I was a newbie I asked for advice in hopes to get suggestions. And I did.

My theory is if your going to ask for advise and want help ask for it and take whatever is given to you. This is if your sincere and really wanting to help your pet.

If not then you can be like some newbies that posted for help and got ticked off when we gave them suggestions.

It's all about common sense, you go to a pet board asking for help and just b/c you don't like the suggestion that was given your going to go and raise hell.

I'm sorry then your here for all the wrong reasons.

This board is here to help people w/animals. I made alot of friends from here and got ALOT OF EXCELLENT ADVICE, and I THANK ALL OF YOU.

I even got a referred to another board and I am a member over there.

As for vet questions ask your vet if your pet has a problem that serious, we're not vets on here. Granted maybe some people on here went throught the same thing your going through now, but the main point to this is you still need to call your vet and get your pet looked at.

It's not that hard. I'm glad I joined here and made the friends that i did. They were very helpful in trying to help me w/my dogs. They gave great suggestions and I tried them. Some of them didn't work and I'm trying to see what else I can do, but at least I tried.

So if you don't want the suggestions then don't ask. We all try to help the best we can. when someone doesn't want to listen and want to try to take the easy way out then yeah it does get frustrated.

So rethink when you post and get suggestions. IF you have a lot of people telling you the same thing then maybe you should do what their suggesting.

I know I haven't been posting much lately but I'm in a custody battle and I have my own website that I'm handling and I'm a member on another board also.

I thought I needed to post this.

mona_b
May 17th, 2004, 01:10 PM
Hey daisy,great to see you again...How have you been?.... :D

daisy18216
May 17th, 2004, 01:17 PM
Thanks!!! :D

I miss you guys. I"m good, very busy lately.

How have you been?? I see I missed alot here.

Ruger still not getting any better w/taking food. He'll still jump up on the stove to take food off the stove, take the food out of my kids hands, and even ours.

I can't change their dog food right now, b/c we're living paycheck to paycheck right now. We're lucky if we have money left over to last til next pay day.

I'm trying to see if I can get a at home job that will be successful.Other than that I'm good. Thanks for asking.

mona_b
May 17th, 2004, 01:37 PM
I've been pretty good...Yes you have missed alot.....LOL

Sorry to hear....((((((HUGS))))))

Send Mr Ruger to me and I will straighten him out...Or Yukon and Tron will..... :D ...Heck,even Casper will... :D

Well we have a new baby...Her name is Winnie.She is 11 weeks now..She has tabby in her,but she is what the vet said a buff colour.She's not orange,but like a buff brown.But that may change as she gets older.Other then that,I'm good...Hope to see you on here a little more often... :D

Luba
May 17th, 2004, 01:47 PM
Nice to have you around again Daisy.

I'm sorry to hear of your hardships, I'll keep you in my thoughts!!

Thank you for the lovely post!

daisy18216
May 17th, 2004, 01:53 PM
mona i dont' know what we're going to do w/our mr. ruger. he is a stinker at times.

when did you get your new kitty?

Thanks Luba, I'm sure things will get alot better by July 20th the latest.

I needed to post that, you guys helped me out alot and it's the truth.

I will be on more often.

Thanks again guys, it's nice to know that I was missed. :)

rescuekitty
May 29th, 2004, 07:02 AM
Just wanted to mention for Laura, and MBRA, that the kittens are doing great. They are almost 5 weeks old, and running and playing like crazy little kittens do. I have found very good homes for all of them, once they are weaned. They are all eating solid food, and doing well.
Just so anyone knows, who really cares, I haven't been to this board in about a month, since just after the kittens were born. The only reason I come back is to PM a friend who I got to know through my posts. I usually just reply to the PMs and leave, but today I thought I would read some posts, and I'm a little disappointed to see that people are still stuck on me... Like a ton of people have said, let it go. I don't care if you agree with the way I do things. I was simply trying to show my side of things is not terribly wrong. Bill & Bob, I'm assuming(correct if I'm wrong) that you are referring to me and MBRA as being the same person. Feel free to check out equiman.com's message board, and you'll see that we are different people on there too, what a concept! :D
Anyway, since this post involved me, I felt the need to post. No one needs to reply to it.. I'll post something else telling how the kittens are I guess so people can reply there if they want.

Bill & Bob
May 29th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Nope, wasn't you and MBRA at all RK. Someone else entirely. As I remember during that little spat/episode I was trying to be diplomatic. Again, just as I remember. My whole family came from a long line of farmers and I know that pooches and cats on a farm generally live pretty darn happy lives. Again, depending on the owner. Like someone was saying yesterday, a dog can be happy in an apartment and depressed in a mansion...depending on the owner. I think that's much more important than the venue itself.
My grandfathers dog lived to the ripe old age of 16 on a dairy farm. Never took meds once. Don't think they existed for pets back then. Never ate a nugget of dog food either. Grandpa didn't believe in it. (old codgers in Kingston are grumpy old louts and very opinionated. Can't wait until I'm like that. I've got a good start already!) Leftovers and table scraps for him all his life. Always looked healthy and happy. My brothers and I used to hold his leesh between the three of us, and the strong bugger would gravel ski us down the road. We used to love that. So did he.

Bill & Bob
May 29th, 2004, 01:46 PM
PS, start a new thread about your kitties if you could? This one brings back bad memories. Glad to hear they are doing well.

Iggette
May 31st, 2004, 08:26 AM
This board rocks........lol . Guess I missed all the hoopla and nasty stuff glad I did. This board ,I'm sure is intended for the help of the animals and what is in the animals best interests, and it does a damn good job at it ,with alot of time and care into what these people post, and also alot of time taken to help others with their animal woes, I for one thank all of you people here that have taken the time to look at my posts and do what you could to help me out.
Your time, expertice, care and love is much appretiated by this poster.
Thanks all for caring ;)

melanie
May 31st, 2004, 05:10 PM
a year ago this board was very freindly, but you may note it is returning to its former self.
laura05, i totally understand where you are coming form, lots of animals live in shed, barns or outside, it is just people get a little more protective of the domesticated ones, but that is understandable as many people dont know many cows or pigs to have the opertunity to see they are just as lovely and can be as loving as our domesticated ones. it would have been funny if a thousand years ago we did not choose dogs and cats for domestication and chose pigs and goats for domestication instead, we would be eating dog steaks and patting our goats on our laps in front of the telly, food for thought. :D

Lucky Rescue
May 31st, 2004, 06:03 PM
I have found very good homes for all of them, once they are weaned

You mean great, lifetime, indoor homes with people who will spay and neuter?

What is your secret to finding these kinds of homes so quickly? I'd really like to know!

Chany
May 31st, 2004, 07:08 PM
We're not going to start in on this again are we? ;)

rescuekitty
May 31st, 2004, 09:18 PM
Ok, well.. I thought I mentioned this, but maybe I didn't. They are being adopted out through a rescue organization which has a mandate to spay and neuter. It is a local thing, that sounds like it works very well.. I don't want all this crap to start again.. :rolleyes: So yes, they will al be neutered and spayed and going to lifetime homes. I know all the people they are going to, as they are all friends, but I am still using an adoption agency to ensure they are spayed and neutered, and to make sure there is a "first refusal" clause if they can't keep them any longer. I was a little disappointed by that post, I think the tone of it sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.. but I'm not getting into all this again.. That's why I don't post here much anymore.

vedwards
May 31st, 2004, 09:32 PM
As a new member, I would like to say that everyone should take others advice, where they need it. The world is full of people, who ask for your opinion and then criticize you for it later. Instead of viewing every spoken word as a personal attack, take it for what it's worth. You asked, didn't you?
We will never totally agree! So what! It appears to me, that this board is doing exactly what it was designed for. Ask and you shall receive. Personally, I appreciate having something like this available. But as any qualified veterinarian will tell you, it should never take the place of medical advice. Everyone who takes a pet home, takes home the responsibility of caring for that pet, no matter what the cost. If you cant afford it, dont do it. We owe are pets that much. Loss of appetite, diarrhea and vomiting is not the same as a broken toe nail. You know the difference. Act like it. Are pets depend on it.

Lucky Rescue
May 31st, 2004, 09:46 PM
I think the tone of it sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Absolutely not true. Merely a question. I've had a number of foster kittens, and it's taken much longer to get them all wonderful homes even when they are so adorable, so I was wondering how you did it so fast. Sorry I asked.

rescuekitty
May 31st, 2004, 09:50 PM
LuckyRescue. I'm sorry then. I hate the internet. It's so hard to tell how people mean things! That's why I like to use the smileys to try to show some emotion.. if not a lot, I hope it helps sometimes. :D

rescuekitty
May 31st, 2004, 09:51 PM
Btw, don't be sorry you asked. If you were just wondering then I am glad to answer. I just didn't want a new fight to start! :D

melanie
May 31st, 2004, 10:47 PM
i for one am begining to feel that it is just too draining to come here, every visit seems like a battle and i just am tired of it, if you step back one can see this site degrading into something not so nice or happy and i for one have no time for this sadness and am really sick of it; in the past i have just loved being here, it was nice and warm and no one was cranky and we had lots of fun, now it is really changing. if things dont pick up soon i fear i will have no chioce but to log out for good. :( as i am starting to feel embarassed and ashamed of the nastiness that goes on here). ohhhh crap... :mad:

Luba
May 31st, 2004, 11:13 PM
NO you aren't Mel! You stay right here you buggar LOL!! :D We luvs ya!

RescueKitty I'm glad the kittens are doing well.

WOODY
June 1st, 2004, 12:06 AM
Said only partially with tounge in cheek--why not do like the reality shows
(which I hate with a passion but admire their process) and vote people off the island board???
If someone or a group of someones is so damaging to the integrity of the board why not vote them off and be done with it?
" Banish them off with their heads" :D
Granted visiting a board should be a non violent and helpful experience. Passion runs high on this board. The interesting thing is the rescue and care of animals has risen to the fever pitch of a political discussion and similar in intensity to the Gay rights - Civil rights and far rights :D political positions.
Since this is a board where all should be welcomed, the manner in which one responds and the manner in which someone takes the response has to be tempered with the knowledge that everyone does not have (as stated many times before by almost everyone) the same capabilities of care or convicitons as to what constitutes good quality care.
Things might settle down a bit if we confined ourselves to offering advice and not rendering opinions and judgemental pontification as to the conditions of care someone might have for an animal. Also I might add that if the animals could speak - for themselves- the cat that lives in a barn might prefer to stay there sleeping among toasty hay bales and having a random dinner run by in the form of fresh mouse instead of coming inside to the chemical laden apartment and lounging on a sofa. While the barn cat might appreciate a regular meal of canned food to suppliment their "random rodent" diet they might not want to trade it in for the warmth and security of apartment living.
I would feel better if the cat were inside however I am not always sure the cat feels the same way. I currently have a neighbor's cat living in my garage (access door cut in side of house for cat convenience and meals delivered every morning and night along with vitamin suppliments). Could something happen to her living in the semi wild-yes, but she has always been in the wild and to remove her now might be similar to making me live in an apartment complex-which I would hate.
I do the best I can with what I have and trying to take into consideration the natural desires of the animals.
My three rescue cats who have lived inside now for over 10 years, would not know how to survive out side in the country wild life scene, anymore.
We should not allow fighting among ourselves be the reason for people to leave the site.
I have been guilty of passing judgement on conditions mentioned especially small apartments and large dogs, but it is just my opinion, not the rule of law folks.
Personally I don't mind the carping and occassional sniping. I am here, will say what I have to say, leave when I feel like it and listen to those I chose and the rest can prattle on.
Woody is ready for the first cup of coffee of the day.
:D

Iggette
June 1st, 2004, 07:59 AM
Interesting :p

chico2
June 1st, 2004, 08:20 AM
Well Woody,I've already had a POT and read all the bad news in the paper :D
Mel,don't leave us,I don't think anyone gets really angry,but will give advice according to their own experience.
The cursing and sniping came mostly from people asking for advice,not liking what they hear,as an example a cat having kittens out in the cold under a piece of sheetmetal,that scenario to me is awful,but probably natural to the barncat. In the later posts,more explainations were given and things did not sound too bad.
My cats are three pampered kitties,they don't even want to be outside on their own.I have a fenced in property and they stay out,but only if I or hubbie is out with them,but that is just how we feel about our cats.
We all have different lifestyles and different ideas,but I am hoping we all have one thing in common,the love for our animals.
For many it is just not possible to pay thousands of $$$$ for surgery etc..there was a time when my kids were small,when even $100 was too much for the vet,but I would never,ever watch an animal suffer,one way or the other I would help him/her.
I also know of people who only love their animals to a point,feed them the cheapest food they can find,could not imagine spending money on medical care for"just a dog or cat"the love goes by the way-side if it touches their wallet.The shelters are full of "loved"pets dumped because they are sick,or cats because they are no more cute kittens.....
Ok...that's enough for today,the sun is shining,time to go out and see what all the rain did to my garden!! So lets all be friends,eh!!!

rescuekitty
June 1st, 2004, 08:35 AM
The cursing and sniping came mostly from people asking for advice,not liking what they hear,as an example a cat having kittens out in the cold under a piece of sheetmetal,that scenario to me is awful,but probably natural to the barncat. In the later posts,more explainations were given and things did not sound too bad.
I actually don't think I did any cursing or sniping! I am not the kind of person to swear at people... Ever. So as I know you are implying me, by your example... I don't think it's true.
And yes, the situation did sound aweful. I agree. But I stated in the very first post, I do believe, that I had taken the cat into the sunroom where it was warmer and dry to have the remainder of the kittens, after searching her out in the rain at 1:00am! If I hadn't cared.. and thought she was "just a barn cat" I wouldn't have done that. I knew she was going to have them, and was hoping she would have them in the barn, but knew I should keep an eye on her, as she had been spending a lot of time under the sheet metal, rather than in the barn during the last week or so of her pregnancy. I also wanted to make sure everything went well during the delivery. In fact, one of the kittens was born not breathing, and I got the fluid out of it's lungs/mouth/nose so it could breathe.
The thing I didn't like was the fact that people were implying that by me having a barn cat, I could not possibly love her the way you people with indoor animals love your animals. I think the scenario of a horse on 24/7 turnout is the same idea. They are provided with food, shelter from the elements, and protection, and are in all likelihood just as loved as any horse that is only turned out during the day. Just because an animal lives a different lifestyle does not mean it is not loved.
Sorry.. I know I probably shouldn't post this.. I don't want to start things up again.. But I feel like that comment was aimed at me.

Iggette
June 1st, 2004, 08:41 AM
Out where I live barncats are a common thing, farmers put a cat in the barn to keep the mice and rat population from eating feed or whatever. Getting used to this practice is very hard to swallow but is also a long standing tradition with people out here. I have a spot about 10 minutes from where I live that I feed such cats, so does another lady, one day we met and decided on a feeding schedule because we both wanted the cats to get the best feeding possible she does most of it I do it when I can but there is always cat food in my car for when I see stray cats.

When we moved to this farm in December, we soon noticed it came with a barn cat, I call her Moma we have one of her kittens from last years litter the people that lived here before us just left her here her name is boots and I won't tell ya the rest to sad........lets just say that boots means more than the 4 white paws.
I have also recently met Papa (father to boots perhaps) I believe he is probably another stray barncat as it is very unkept long fur totally matted with burrs and neglect he has noticed that Moma does not run from me but enjoys a long petting and some tender love and a good meal. So now he comes once a day for a free meal and is slowly gaining some weight on his boney structure and the matting I have cut away quite alot.....he's a little bald and funny looking but I think he is glad to be rid of it.
I am doing the best I can to save up for another cat to go to the vets to be spayed (Moma) I know I should rush off and do it right away, but my buget only streatches so far I have hit the 2,000 mark already in the past 4 months so I have to catch up on some of the regular bills or we might not have a place or electro to house my little farm animals

rescuekitty
June 1st, 2004, 08:47 AM
Well.. Yes, that is the main reason we have a barn cat. She keeps the mouse population down. But our barn cat is well taken care of, and fed good food, and always has fresh water available. I know some people don't treat their barn cats very well, but it's a major generalization to say that all farmers are like that. I know MANY farmers that have barn cats that are treated the same as their indoor cats, but live in the barn to catch mice.
I also feel sorry for the cats like yours that have been left behind. That is not something I could ever do. When I get a pet, it's a pet for life. Just like my horses, goat, donkey, dog, and now my cat. Her kittens will be finding homes, but only because that is the main reason I got her, to have her spayed and find her good homes for the kittens, after having them spayed and neutered to avoid more unwanted cats!

chico2
June 1st, 2004, 11:41 AM
Iggette,you made a very good point with"your"barncats,they do not live on mice alone!!! Most cats who devour mice are also full of worms..
The sad case(lucky they have you)with those two cats is exactly what most of us are trying to point out.

melanie
June 1st, 2004, 04:39 PM
oh i cant leave you all, i tried yesterday but here i am today, i really like you guys alot and would be sad without your laughs. it was just a very frustrating day thats all, got a little angry and sad but feel betta today. thanks guys and keep happy, life is too short to be sad or cranky :D :p

Iggette
June 2nd, 2004, 06:44 AM
But our barn cat is well taken care of, and fed good food, and always has fresh water available. I know some people don't treat their barn cats very well, but it's a major generalization to say that all farmers are like that. I know MANY farmers that have barn cats that are treated the same as their indoor cats, but live in the barn to catch mice.

Sorry about the generalization, you are right. I have been to a few farm where the barncats are treated very well, unfortunatly in my experiences of the last 5 years I have lived up here I have seen some major cases of neglect and I mean major. Some farmers just use the barns and farm the land and rent out the house which is the situation I am in, there is only two barncats here that I know of but in the past I was at a farmhouse that had about 20 cats around and at least 1/2 of them were sick I saved 2 of them Katie and Min Min they are great mousers.
Min Min was on deaths door the vet looked at her and said she wasn't sure that she would survive and if she did she would have many problems in the future I wish I took a picture she was skin and bones I was leary of picking her up for fear of breaking something, she was very malnourished, had the runs badly weepy eyes and runny nose with constant sneezing and both her and Katie had ear mites like I have never seen before.
A little liquid gold, alot of ear cleaning 3 times a day antibiotics constant food and warmth and love and Min Min is now 4 years later actually starting to get a little fat and is as healthy as all the rest of my cats.

Sorry didn't mean to ramble on


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