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hair loss on snout

smoothcoatcolli
June 20th, 2007, 09:07 AM
My seven month old collie is loosing the hair on her snout. I took her to the vet about a month ago and he said it was to early to determine what it was and prescribed an ointment. The hair loss slowed down and then it flared up spreading to the bridge of her snout. Could this be a sunburn or something more serious?

Other than the hair loss she seems to be fine. I would like to take her to a dermatlogist for dogs(relatively soon), but the initial vist is $116, so I can't take her this week.

-first time dog owner

hazelrunpack
June 20th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Does the skin look pinkish or inflamed in the hairless patches? Has your vet scraped for mites? A scraping might not be too expensive.

Your description sounds a lot like the way our Macie's demodectic mange started when we first got her. Macie was about 18 months old and had been stressed--this type of mange is more a disorder of the immune system than anything else and stress can bring it on.

Just a thought. Good luck with your Collie! :fingerscr

Longblades
June 20th, 2007, 11:34 AM
Could she have gotten bug bites that are itchy? Happens to my girl and she rubs her nose with her paws, or against something, and rubs the hair off. In her case when the itching stops she stops rubbing and the hair comes back.

t.pettet
June 20th, 2007, 10:27 PM
There is a condition called Collie Nose (Nasal Solar Dermatitis) that affects Collies, Shetland Sheepdogs and related dogs. Has your vet ruled this out? I think its a hereditary condition.

TeriM
June 20th, 2007, 10:41 PM
What type of bowl is she eating/drinking from? I've heard that some plastic dishes can cause a reaction.

smoothcoatcolli
June 26th, 2007, 04:21 PM
i have been looking stuff on the internet about collie's and found many scary things. The hair loss has spread (only on her snout) so off to the vet we went yesterday. The skin is slightly red and it isn't inflammed or anything. He has not suggested a skin scraping and doubts it's any type of mange.

I have refrained from blurting out all the scary diseases I've learned about b/c I don't think reading on the internet qualifies me as an expert -and I am sure he gets "crazy" mom's all the time.

He gave us some antibiotics and said he wants to see her in a week if it doesn't get better. I have a feeling I am going to spend the same amount I would have if I had taken her to a specialist. I love my dog to death and I wish I could say money is not an issue, but it can be.

I just really hope he's right and it's an allergy of some sort and not DM or something worse. She drinks and eats from ceramic and metal bowls.

(I've only seen he scratch at it once)

SableCollie
June 26th, 2007, 04:44 PM
I knew a lovely young collie that suffered from mange and he only had a bit of hair loss on his nose. Just because your vet doesn't recommend a scraping doesn't mean you can't request one. Remember you are a client, and you are paying for a service.

I've read tons of scary stuff on "collie nose" and "collie eye" but personally I have never seen either condition. If you got your collie from a breeder, you can always ask them for any suggestions to what it might be.

Good Luck! :fingerscr

smoothcoatcolli
June 29th, 2007, 02:37 PM
does anyone that has dealt with mange give any details on what they see? the antibotics aren't working that well.


if it was your dog would you see a different vet or stay with the same one?
kitty has to go to the vet too! this sucks!!

SableCollie
June 29th, 2007, 02:49 PM
If you are not satisfied with your vet, you should go get a second opinion. I would definitely get a skin scraping done.

hazelrunpack
June 29th, 2007, 03:29 PM
It's been a while, but as I recall, with Macie the demodex mange just started with pink skin and hair loss, mostly on the flews and muzzle. It wasn't itchy. It progressed a bit, but we caught it early and medicated and got it in check pretty quickly.

A second veterinary opinion is always an option. If you are uncomfortable with your current one, it might be time to check out a new clinic. It hasn't been very long, though. Is the bald area increasing rapidly in size?

rainbow
June 29th, 2007, 07:05 PM
There is also a condition called discoid lupus that is also common in Collies.

I have refrained from blurting out all the scary diseases I've learned about b/c I don't think reading on the internet qualifies me as an expert -and I am sure he gets "crazy" mom's all the time.

I would ask your vet if he can rule out all the things you've read. It would certainly put your mind at ease. :)

smoothcoatcolli
July 2nd, 2007, 08:18 AM
it's not spreading rapidly. the anitbiotics did make a differenence, but there is still some hair loss. i was reading that d....mange is sometimes difficult to diagnose through a skin scraping. i think it has something to do with the fact that the mites are killed when they scratch it.

aargh! i am frustrated -my boyfriend lost his job and the kitty has to go to the vet tomorrow. poor ava is going to have to wait. she seems fine and the area seems contained to just her snout. it's been gooing on more maybe two months. anyway, i will let you all know what happens.

ps thanks for all the input!

smoothcoatcolli
July 15th, 2007, 03:42 PM
the hair kept falling out on her snout after the antibotics, so i took my collie to a different vet. She began with a skin scraping and sure enough discovered mites. It turned out to be DM after all. I think collies tend to have skin problems so this might happen again.

I was sure the first vetrinarian I took her too had thought I was a nutty dog owner who read to much stuff on the internet when I suggested mange. Can anyone sugest the pros of working through process and elimination for something like this? The second vet said the first ointment he had prescribed actually worsened the condition, Granted the history I gave the new doctor helped eliminate other notions,but why wouldn't a vet do a skin scraping in the first place.

I digress -My Ava will be fine.

badger
July 15th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Some vets lack imagination, are not as well-informed as they might be or are just poor diagnosticians. Luck of the draw, I'm afraid. But that doesn't stop you from asking as many questions as you can get in and if you are not satisfied, seeking a second opinion. The internet is an excellent tool; no intelligent vet would dismiss your research out of hand. In fact, s/he should be eager to educate you (and him/herself ;) ).
I'm glad you finally found a good one and that Ava is on the mend.
Have you got a picture you can post?