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Story in the star, Dalton asks us to trust him

seeker
June 5th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Check this out Dalton the liar is asking for our votes .Trust me this time I won't break my promises :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: "If re'elected in October the Liberals will not raise taxes"McGuinty said.
Better get the rubber boots out of storage because it's gonna get deep this time I think.
Check the top of the page for a link to the poll the star took ,there is also a link to comments on the mainpage . My comments didn't get published on the page because I missed the deadline, maybe "flatline" is a better word to use in reffering to Dalton:rip: in this case considering some of the comments and poll results.

Read and enjoy!!!!!

www.thestar.com/News/article/221171

chico2
June 5th, 2007, 04:09 PM
Seeker,we know we are NOT voting Liberal this time,but also know we are not voting for Mr Tory,never again PC..so,that leaves us with no votes:evil:

wdawson
June 5th, 2007, 05:26 PM
:laughing: i heard that on cfrb.........

mummummum
June 5th, 2007, 07:04 PM
I'll trust him if he repeals BSL, puts in place Bill 232 and repeals the Health tax. :laughing:

Schwinn
June 6th, 2007, 11:03 AM
Seeker,we know we are NOT voting Liberal this time,but also know we are not voting for Mr Tory,never again PC..so,that leaves us with no votes:evil:

The only thing I'll say to that is this time, no strategic voting. We've seen time and again it does not work. There's been several times where the NDP party has almost, or even has, lost party status due to "strategic voting". And personally, I'd have a lot more respect for someone who voted for, say, the communist party because that's what they believed in, than the party they think has the best chance of beating the current ruling party. That's why we're in the mess we're in now. Otherwise, there's a good chance we would have had at least a minority government, and wouldn't have had to put up with the deceptions for 4 years.

Personally, I'll take a party I disagree with than one I can't even trust (though I don't think most politicians can be trusted). At least you know what you are getting.

I could argue for John Tory, but other than a few deceptions that were used to defeat them last time (the phantom deficit which was admitted by the Liberals, Walkerton), most of the arguments in this thread would be moot (I'd be arguing with socialists, when I'm a capitalist pig;) ).

I will say this--I would go back on my word and rather see the NDP get in than McGuinty again. But I'll be voting for the party I'm most inline with (just as an aside, I've voted for different parties at different times). To be honest, I think the only reason the McGuinty Liberals will get in again is because people are stupid. (Were the NDP or Green to get in, I'd say it's because people were ideologically opposed to my opinions. Vote McGuinty...you have to be stupid).

twodogsandacat
June 6th, 2007, 12:01 PM
Maybe Dalton has changed...maybe he's trying to be likeable by using humour because I laughed so hard it hurt. Sorry Dalton this is an election and unlike some I know I'm not looking for 'a guy that can make me laugh'.

seeker
June 6th, 2007, 07:09 PM
A picture is sometimes worth a thousand words

Schwinn
June 6th, 2007, 10:54 PM
Love it..."reign of error"!

Some links to pass around...If anyone has any with updated promises, post them here (I know, it's hard to keep up...)

http://www.paymoregetless.ca/brokenpromises/
http://www.mcguintywatch.ca/category/broken-promises/
http://fiberals.ca/

babyrocky1
June 8th, 2007, 08:39 PM
Seeker,we know we are NOT voting Liberal this time,but also know we are not voting for Mr Tory,never again PC..so,that leaves us with no votes:evil:
And here in lies my big dilemma, I can never, ever, ever, vote Tory, but I hate Bryant... and Dalton as well for allowing Bryant to do what he did, so I dont have a dilema in my riding cause I will Vote and volunteer for Rosario Marchese, NDP and it is not a strategic vote cause hes held the riding since , (hate to bring this up "RAE DAYS" lol
My problem is I will also be volunteering in Bryants riding, ST Pauls, in case I havent said it often enough :laughing:
So Im thinking Green, I mean who doesnt like Green and wouldnt it be cool to take him out with a Green mpp... Probably just wishful thinking but you just never know, the Torys and the Fibs could be close enough for a Green party person to come up the middle... Or I could just go anti-Bryant... Or I could volunteer for the NDP person since I am a member of the party, so I have some details to still work out myself.... hmmmmmmm

babyrocky1
June 8th, 2007, 08:51 PM
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I will say this--I would go back on my word and rather see the NDP get in than McGuinty again. But I'll be voting for the party I'm most inline with (just as an aside, I've voted for different parties at different times). To be honest, I think the only reason the McGuinty Liberals will get in again is because people are stupid. (Were the NDP or Green to get in, I'd say it's because people were ideologically opposed to my opinions. Vote McGuinty...you have to be stupid).[/QUOTE]
Theres another reason Schwinn, many people vote for the Fibs cause they are terrified of the Tories, they know the Fibs have a much better chance of getting elected so the go with the "lesser evil"
I find this so frustrating because it undermines the whole democratic system of opposition.
So I totally agree, strategic voting sucks and I dont think it works anyhow, If I remember correctly Harris was elected the second time with an anyone but Harris campaign on the other side... !

seeker
June 9th, 2007, 07:20 AM
I think one reason Harris got in the second time was not so much because everyone liked Him or His policies but because the guy told it like he seen it and did not lie .He did what he said he would do,plain and simple.
Hopefully it will be the lies that get McGuinty booted ,whether people like his policies or not .Nobody likes a liar.
I agree strategic voting is a crapshoot at best and certainly not a good way for us to base our decisions as to which party to vote for.But I do think the political minds that run the campaigns count on it to play a large part in the outcome of the elctions.
How do we outguess a professional campaign manager and support team when most of us are so busy with day to day jobs and home life while their job and life only consists of "plotting" what inevitably is our future for the next 4 years?
One thing we must all remember is that no matter what party gets in their main focus is on getting re'elected not on our special interests . McGuinty made this very clear when breaking some of his promises .If the group he was dealing with was small like the parents of the Autistic children there wasn't even so much as a debate he just said "No" in that case going so far as appealing a court decision. If the group was large like homebuilders and buyers he bent a little at least. Losing a large number of voters or a small number swayed his decisions and policies as it does most polititians but in recent memory nobody made it a clear as he did.