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whats happening around here???

erykah1310
May 26th, 2007, 10:19 AM
I dont know if anyone shares my feelings on this one, or even if this thread will last long enough for others to know what Im trying to share.

I loved coming here, daily, and Istill do, but its not the same anymore. Sadly for me the addiction is dying off.
I find myself spending more time on other forums that I frequent, I still come here day to day to see whats happining with "my friends" here, and whats new in their lives... but no one is talking anymore.

For some reason, I sign on, and shortly there after my undies fly straight up my... well you know, due to the tension here.

How can the internet cause " this" to happen??
Its like walking in on a fight occuring in a group of people, you feel instantly uncomfortable, no one is talking, and you just want to disappear.
I am going to take a break for a bit, this isnt one of those "im leaving try to make me stay " threads, im just stating how it feels here for me.

One day I hope things can return to how they were around here, I will still be checking in, in hopes that it has, but until then... Its too uncomfortable here for me.

If this gets deleted, I wont be suprised. However hopefully someone will have seen what I said.

I hope that everyone in charge of this site, can have a good long sit down and think about what is happening.
I dont understand how heaven can turn to hell in a matter of weeks.:shrug:

Prin
May 26th, 2007, 10:21 AM
I agree. :sad:

technodoll
May 26th, 2007, 10:31 AM
same here... i'm not good with gag orders :shrug: :sad:

i love this forum though, and really hope things get back to how they were :fingerscr

marko
May 26th, 2007, 10:33 AM
All forums have their ups and downs. I would invite members to PM me with their concerns to see if I can help.

There are many members on this board and many different personalities on this board. As ADMIN there are things that I can do and things that I cannot do (like MAKE people get along)

If any member feels like there is something that I can do - please PM me directly. Everything you say will be kept 100% confidential.

I want to help...but I need to know specific problems.

Thanks in advance,

MarkoADMIN

Frenchy
May 26th, 2007, 10:33 AM
I don't see it that way, admins are just trying to keep things civilized. Why let things go too far, people get rude, some members get banned, other members that I liked went MIA. And I don't see more posts deleted than before :confused: maybe these posts are in topics that I don't read to often, but really , what has changed so much ?

erykah1310
May 26th, 2007, 10:37 AM
There are many members on this board and many different personalities on this board. As ADMIN there are things that I can do and things that I cannot do (like MAKE people get along)

I still get along with everyone, its not that,
Just "something" has happened, I will PM you some concerns though.

Frenchy, its just been "weird here" lately.

Prin
May 26th, 2007, 10:38 AM
And I don't see more posts deleted than before :confused: maybe these posts are in topics that I don't read to often, but really , what has changed so much ?I guess you weren't in those threads. :shrug:

TeriM
May 26th, 2007, 11:41 AM
I'm kinda on the fence with this one. I do believe the mods need to be involved to keep things civilized but I think sometimes the "gagging" was a bit agressive. I was definately happy to see Marko's new policy as I sometimes think that people deliberately said things to close the threads, especially if things weren't going their way :o .

With regard to thread closures and edits for this forum (and other forums) Effective immediately (or by the end of this weekend) Rudeness and slander will just have an edited by Mod X threadnote. Members are welcome to PM the mod in question or PM me for further clarification.

I'm generally not to much of a confrontational person on this board (though can be in real life :eek: ) so maybe I don't notice it as much either. I do think that sometimes people just need to agree to disagree and quit demanding that others agree with their positions.

That said, I do love this board and think part of the slowdown is normal as we move onto warmer weather and people are busy shaking off the winter cobwebs.

CyberKitten
May 26th, 2007, 12:21 PM
I guess I don't come here often enough to notice - I do tend to hear after the notice that something has been deleted but often it is medical question and it made sense to me to end that and suggest the questioner bring his or her pet to a vet. I have seen much more tense times and I find lately it has been better actually - I mean there are the usual comments that one does not like but I've decided now it's best to ignore the ones that hurt your feelings. (and I tend to be a bit sensitive so that does actually work for me.)

I am not sure it is healthy (emotionally) for people to spend hours here - unless one has to update the site and that sort of thing and I suppose if one is a moderator and thus needs to. But I have learned some good info here and met some great people - and I am saddened that some of them are no longer here, often for reasons I do not understand to be honest. I try not to judge anyone -even if they say something that seems disagreeable or that I disagree with. We all have different views and opinions and that's what makes life interesting.

I guess I just have not experiencing what is being referred to here. Actually, it seems better in some ways than it did during a few periods when it was quite stressful but it has not been like that for me in quite some time. Perhaps it is just a matter of perspective and experience and what one seeks from a site? And doubtless, everyone has unique needs.

wdawson
May 26th, 2007, 12:23 PM
i agree with TeriM's last comment,on the weather slowing the number of posts,but,as the nice weather continues i think people will post about vacations with the pets ect. i'm also glad that the number of post about pet problems seems to be down also, I also think that there is a thing called TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING....everything in moderation right,including posting on a board.....

papillonmama
May 26th, 2007, 01:10 PM
I hear you Erykah, I took a break and am feeling much better now.

Maya
May 26th, 2007, 02:55 PM
I don't think things have changed very much, its just becoming more obvious which views and personalities are more welcome on the forum. Its a shame to see some of the really energetic educated people get shut down or banned though because they are the ones that keep the fourm interesting and informative.

If this gets deleted, I wont be suprised. However hopefully someone will have seen what I said. I always feel that way if I express something slightly controversial. I was rather shocked when a thread was locked for what appeared to be the use of the word masturbation, so i'm not even sure what is safe at this point.:confused: Also something I notice is that whenever there is a complaint about the moderation it seems to go in the direction of what a thankless and difficult job it is.:sad: I also spend a large amount of time looking up information for people, wording things as kindly as possible. I find the reward is getting through to someone every now and then or finding out that something I said actually helped someone. I do appreciate the opportunity to be able to do that here without having to pay for a subscription but I have to admit i've been looking for something where I can speak freely.

trippincherri
May 26th, 2007, 02:59 PM
I noticed that certain threads caused an uproar amongst members which is bound to happen when you have such a large and vast array of strong minded people trying to voice their opinions.
And I do notice how their are some people who are more persistent with their views then others which is ok to a point, but there is a fine line you musn't cross when giving your opinion whether it be online or in person.
Some people are more sensitive then others, I know I have found myself typing something and deleted it all because I thought it might not be well received by either one person or the group as a whole. (Just trying not to make an enemy!)

But aside from that I try to maintain a good happy balance with all members....I sort of feel bad for the newbies lol since it can be hard to squeeze your way into the "family".
I am glad I was persistent enough to keep posting and reading because I have made some friends on here (even if I have never met you in person :D )
and got a lot of great advice from people who have "been there,done that"
and when it comes to your pets you want to talk to actual people who have the same love for their pets as you do for your own.

I love this forum! I love the people and all the pets (whom I now can recognize without scrolling up to see who posted lol) I just wish there wasn't so much drama sometimes.
We are all here for the same reasons after all....we love our pets to bits and want whats best for them.

Byrd
May 26th, 2007, 03:38 PM
I've noticed a change too and therefore tend to stick more to the 'fun' threads.

I've just noticed that a lot of people are expecting everyone else to be like them. If you're not feeding the best food, or using the best vet, or the best whatever, you're basically told off. Some people just don't have the resourses to pull off the world's most incredible food for their dog and are doing the best that they can. That's the main issue I have.

My other main issue with the 'changes' is the rescue situation, I love that everyone's rescued and fostering, that is amazing and :thumbs up to those that do it. But some of us did not rescue our dogs and sometimes can be made to feel left out in a way. However, even though I did 'buy' my dog, I still feel I rescued her in a way, she is from a 'breeder' who knew nothing about dogs and breeding (HA she even stated that they couldn't tell which were males and which were females until two days after they were born because they don't get their genitals until then - um... I've seen puppies born with genitals!!). Anyway I imagine what Willow's life may have been if I hadn't paid the whole $250 for her as most were probably sold to people just looking for a cheap dog/Christmas present as they were released on Christmas Eve.

Just my :2cents: please don't rang on me or close the thread because of me. I've been feeling this way for uite sometime too.

chico2
May 26th, 2007, 03:53 PM
I really do not know what the problem is,I've not noticed anything,but maybe I just missed some posts:confused:
I tend to get involved if there are cat-questions,hence those are the posts I open,but I do really love to see all the pics of all the beautiful dogs,as for doggie questions,all I can do is give my support.
I am not on any other Forums,it's just too time-consuming,this one suits me just fine,people who feel about animals the way I do,most anyway,among my friends not many are as dedicated to their animals as most here are.
There are a couple of people whom I think like to antagonize,but they are very easy to ignore.
Also,I too miss a lot of people who used to come here,it seems to me,if you are too serious about helping animals,there is a limit and censure.
However,I still love to read about great rescue-stories,wonderful people who foster and give their all,so all in all IMO,we still have a nice bunch of people on this Forum.:thumbs up

mummummum
May 26th, 2007, 05:22 PM
Granted, I wasn't around much for the past few months until this week... but, we've been had some pretty tough "discussions" on this board in the past and I suspect we always will. When one feels as passionately about animals as we all seem to, it's only natural that we have strongly held convictions.

Some are better able to express themselves in a way that is non-inflammatory than are others. Some are better at being supportive and encouraging than are others. Some are better at de-escalating inflammatory discussions than are others. Some are better at stepping away from the keyboard than are others. Some are being inclusive and engaging others in discussions. And so on and so on.

We each bring to the table something unique and hopefully, we leave the table a little richer in our understanding of each other, ourselves and our animals.

Maybe a little hiatus is just what you need Erykah...but, I for one will miss you.

Prin
May 26th, 2007, 05:30 PM
My problem is what's being said and what's being done are two different things. Marko, your heart might be in the right place, but it's just not fixing anything. For example, this was posted this morning:

With regard to thread closures and edits for this forum (and other forums) Effective immediately (or by the end of this weekend) Rudeness and slander will just have an edited by Mod X threadnote. Members are welcome to PM the mod in question or PM me for further clarification.And yet, posts are STILL disappearing without explanations. Isn't that interesting?

TeriM
May 26th, 2007, 09:00 PM
To be fair, Marko did say "by the end of the weekend".

Prin, TD & Erykah (and all others concerned) please don't let these negative feelings keep you guys away. You all provide great advice and are valued members. Hopefully we will get "back on track" soon.

:grouphug:

technodoll
May 26th, 2007, 09:05 PM
I'm still here! :o just multitasking... :p

Byrd
May 26th, 2007, 09:41 PM
I'm still here too, just not getting involved in any of the intense discussions.

Stacer
May 26th, 2007, 09:52 PM
When I read a thread like this I feel like I'm oblivious to what's going on around me especially when so many members feel like things are different. Maybe I too am not going into the threads that are causing the problems.

This is the first and only forum of any kind that I have participated in, so I really don't have anything to compare to. All the people that I've "met" here are great and I enjoy the banter back and forth and the great advice that is freely given. Clashes of opinion are unavoidable, mods shouldn't jump the gun and delete a thread before a situation has played out, give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, in my experience, a heated debate will come full circle and in the end everyone's civil.

Don't go Erykah.

hazelrunpack
May 26th, 2007, 10:36 PM
I'm still here! :o just multitasking... :p

Me, too...though instead of "multitasking" I usually refer to it as "memory lapse"...I just haven't remembered to finish the first task yet... :o

wdawson
May 26th, 2007, 10:52 PM
I know i'm going to be hated for this but this is what i think.

This is the internet....the opinions you post are open to other opinions.....why get all emotional about what people post....yes i realize that people make friendships online and have things in common....but its the internet....and i think most of the posts about very sick pets are posted to enrage us....why do we need drama?

badger
May 27th, 2007, 01:16 AM
Hazelrunpack:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I must be completely clueless :p : disappearing posts, what's that all about? Could the mods not email the 'offender' with some kind of explanation? In fact how else can people get an idea of which line they have crossed. Plus it would be a courtesy, if it could be done (I have no idea how often this happens. See :p above).
I must agree with wdawson on the fact that things sometimes get overwrought for no apparent reason, altho' I think we're a little :) kinder to newcomers, less rabid, unless the poster is an utter fool then all bets are off :crazy:

heidiho
May 27th, 2007, 01:28 AM
I have to add my :2cents: ,i have no idea about posts disappearing,but i do know the one thing that does get to me are the people that come here make it so obvious that it is a bullsh** question,and the people here who take alot of time to give advice, i know not all are trolls,but i think it is pretty obvious when they are that pisses me off.

Maya
May 27th, 2007, 01:37 AM
hmmm I get the feeling everyone has a totally different idea about what is or isn't going.:p (sort of in response to what wdawson said) I think it is usually good when the sick pet posts get closed right away. I honestly think many of those are just people that view pets more as play things and don't get it. Many people really are that clueless unfortunately. I like how it is more polite now "in keeping with site policy this thread will now be closed, seek emediate vet care etc..":thumbs up Its not much help arguing with someone while thier pet is dying. Once in a while suggestions to look into help from certain ogranizations has helped people realize they should find a way to get to the vet though, even if they don't have cash or credit. I like to give it a quick try if it looks like there is potential for that.

I think the "problem" or one I have is with "over moderation" of discussions. I'm fairly slow and after quite some time typing a response I will submit and unexpectedly get the invalid thread msg because the thread is gone or closed, that is frustrating.:sad:

heidiho
May 27th, 2007, 01:58 AM
I also like how they close them now,thank god,you know it is usually the one sentence questions that always to me seem to come from the same person. "mY DOg iS BleEdING oUT OF bUT" They usually look like that,and i just have a hard time not saying something rude,but have toned it down.

erykah1310
May 27th, 2007, 09:23 AM
Im not "leaving" per se, im just taking a break.
But that isnt what this thread was about. To me it has felt almost like I have had to walk on eggshells lately. I havent been posting in some threads although I would have loved to just because I can see things going REALLY bad on them.

However, I must say some of the PM's I have gotten were sorta uncalled for here. Im not putting the members down! Im not even putting the board down.
I just want to know why its so tense here!:shrug:
Thanks for PM's, and for pointing out MY flaws :laughing: that sorta came out of no where!

mafiaprincess
May 27th, 2007, 11:04 AM
Think part of the heart of this discussion went a little better in the dog food forum over slander and regulars dissapearing. More people there saw what was going on because it is in a concentrated location. Not that the deleting isn't widespread.

Byrd
May 27th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Erykah, I can't believe people PM'd you nasty messages! :eek:

Actually, I've been expecting some myself. :rolleyes: But, so far so good.

Prin
May 27th, 2007, 12:16 PM
That really blows, erykah. :sad:

erykah1310
May 27th, 2007, 01:03 PM
Meh....
I think they're funny really!:laughing:
I guess there is some pent up anger about me that came flying out totally uncalled for, but whatever, I have to give credit that "they" were atleast able to confront me ;)
whatcha gonna do right:rolleyes:

Byrd
May 27th, 2007, 03:00 PM
Well, perhaps they shouldn't send ya PM's that are nasty to begin with. :shrug: Just my humble opinion.

Oh, I did get one in reference to this thread, but it was a nice one. :goodvibes:

erykah1310
May 27th, 2007, 04:36 PM
You're lucky Byrd!:D

Byrd
May 27th, 2007, 04:40 PM
Yeah, well, I was afraid to open it.

Don't worry Erykah, want me to beat them up for ya. :p

erykah1310
May 27th, 2007, 04:48 PM
Nope, not even worth it...
IM a big gurl.
And Fergie sais it best. " big gurls dont cry" :D
Freedom of speach is important in a world like the one we live in, by all means everyone should have the gonads to say whats REALLY on their minds

Stacer
May 27th, 2007, 04:48 PM
I feel so left out, I want a nasty PM:D

erykah1310
May 27th, 2007, 04:49 PM
On its way Stacer!!! ;)

Stacer
May 27th, 2007, 04:51 PM
make it super nasty.

Prin
May 27th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Oooo... :laughing: I don't know if you can do it as well as the real bullies though. Not sure you have it in you, Erykah. :evil: :laughing:

LL1
May 27th, 2007, 05:32 PM
They sound pretty lame,being afraid to post to you on the forums.

rainbow
May 27th, 2007, 05:43 PM
:eek: WOW.....I had no idea things seemed so bad for so many. :sad:

I do agree with TeriM though....

I'm generally not to much of a confrontational person on this board (though can be in real life ) so maybe I don't notice it as much either. I do think that sometimes people just need to agree to disagree and quit demanding that others agree with their positions.

That said, I do love this board and think part of the slowdown is normal as we move onto warmer weather and people are busy shaking off the winter cobwebs.

I've been away for the past week because of the nicer weather, planting, weeding, etc. And, also because hubby is home now which causes more work :frustrated: and things just go better if I'm not on the computer so much. :rolleyes: I also stay away from the controversial issues as I hate arguing especially over the internet. :o

glasslass
May 27th, 2007, 11:45 PM
Wow! I've been off for a few weeks because of computer problems. Ignorance is bliss! I have to admit that I don't go into a lot of threads. Often, I've just read through and realized others have already expressed more eloguently what I would have wanted to say. Unfortunately, there are some issues that come up over and over again that never seem to be resolved. I often won't comment unless I have something constructive to add. And, Heidiho, those one-liners always seem to have a "sad" icon in the title don't they! On the other hand, if it's really not the same troll . . . you hate to think there could really be a pet suffering and the person needs to be told to seek immediate veterinary help. If there was just the poster to worry about, it'd be easy. Anyhow, over the years I've hated seeing long-time members leave. I love the sharing and friendships that develop here.

Maya
May 28th, 2007, 01:58 AM
by all means everyone should have the gonads to say whats REALLY on their mindsMy gonads are shrinking :sad: :sad:.

:p

LavenderRott
May 28th, 2007, 06:49 PM
wow I completely agree. I have been having some health problems with my dog. Im not an idiot, he had flu symptoms, not an emergency...I just spent a few hundred dollars on vet services for another dog that miscarried, Im a college student without a lot of money....so before taking him to the vet which I really cant afford I posted his symptoms hoping to find someone with a similar problem. I got two replies.....one: why dont I get off my computer, sell it, and take my dog to a vet.........wow that was helpful. two: my thread was being locked. I wrote a comment in the early morning explaining, that though some disagree with me waiting to see a vet, rudeness was not the answer. I also commented that the person who told me to get off the computer and sell it if I dont have money was incompassionate, as they did not know anything about me and my financial situation. This was deleted, apparently this site isnt about MONITORING,it about AGREEING, if the monitor doesnt agree, its deleted. I have never been on a forum quite like this. Usually a thread is deleted if its content is inappropriate, an OPINION is not inappropriate and should not have been deleted. I am very surprised by the lock on freedom of speech here. I actually have begun discussing the issues of this site with my other forums and people are quite surprised. Honestly the only reason Im coming back is to watch how many threads get deleted a day.

The reason that threads asking for medical advice are promptly locked is this: not so very long ago, a young man came here looking for advice about his sick puppy. While he spent his time here arguing with the members about why he couldn't take his puppy to the vet - his puppy got worse and died! We are just people who own pets. I can't think of a single active member that is a vet and I can't think of a single vet that can diagnose an illness over the internet. While you think your dog has flu-like symptoms, there may well be something that you think is inconsiquential that a vet will be able to pick up that could save your dog's life.

There is no lock on freedom of speech here. I rarely agree with everyone and have no problems speaking my mind. And I have only had my "hand slapped" once. However - rudeness and name calling is not tolerated. Neither is slander.

If you don't like it here - leave. It is really rather simple. Nobody makes you log in.

LavenderRott
May 28th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Our moderators are also members. They don't get paid and they have jobs and families of their own. So, sometimes, things get past the moderators.

You are right - I didn't see your thread, so I don't know what you said that was deleted or whatever. I do know that, in the going on 4 years that I have been here, the admins and mods do the best that they can to keep everything civil and upbeat.

And once or twice a year, a thread like this pops up to remind everyone that this forum isn't special and can't be everything to everybody. Although we sure wish it was.

There are 20,000 people who are members here. About 100 people are active on an almost daily basis. I didn't count the posts in this thread and didn't look to see who posted more then once, but I am guessing about 10 people (besides you and me :D ) have expressed their dis-satisfaction. If you ask me - those ain't bad odds.

BusterBoo
May 28th, 2007, 07:21 PM
:2cents: ok...just my opinion....but as someone who has tried to get into the conversations.....

if your dog isn't neutered or spayed.....you are told what to do...bluntly... Please remember that there are people who are buying their first dog and haven't read or heard about BYBs. When I got my first dog, I had no idea that spay or neuter was the way to go. (sorry, but sometimes I still wish my Harley and/or Buster could be the stud)

sometimes people who post a "medical" question aren't looking for advice, just re-assurance.....we don't always want an answer to fix the problem, sometimes we just want someone to say ....nicely...."it's ok.....take your furbaby to a Vet and get the answer. But some of the people posting are too blunt.

I know it's a reality check, but you have to "read" the question. Not everyone wants to hear what you have to say....sometimes we just need a cushion to rest on.

I have a couple of times posted and stated in my posts..."if I am banned for this". How sad is that....that someone feels that they can't express an opinion or ask a question with worrying about being so bashed....

This is a great board....however everyone has to taken into consideration the human emotion and feeling. Our Furbabies have lots to offer but so do us humans...:)

Stacer
May 28th, 2007, 07:40 PM
The problems sited by the OP are not member to member problems, they are mod to member problems. Granted there are alot of passionate people posting in the more heated forums and as a new user one might feel slighted by the onslaught of blunt advice, but if those same new members stick around long enough to get to know where the regular members are coming from they would see that on a daily basis new members join to ask one crazy question about their pet's health and it can become exhausting to constantly give the same advice to people who seem to need to ask important health related questions to people who are not vets. And you will see that there are alot of very compassionate people here, but if it seems like a beloved pet isn't getting the care it needs, then the well being of the pet comes before the feelings of the owner, and members will give advice that reflects that. I'm not defending the overly rude members, but in my opinion, sometimes it's hard not to be.

erykah1310
May 28th, 2007, 07:47 PM
Skim right on past this one, it is now irrelevant to the conversation.

erykah1310
May 28th, 2007, 07:50 PM
actually I request it be closed, before we start argueing amongst each other. It was not the point of this thread. THe point has been discussed and I agree with what many of the posters have said.
And I see no problems with a general concerns thread from time to time lavender.

Frenchy
May 28th, 2007, 07:50 PM
oh that's just great, another byb !

LavenderRott
May 28th, 2007, 07:54 PM
actually I request it be closed, before we start argueing amongst each other. It was not the point of this thread. THe point has been discussed and I agree with what many of the posters have said.
And I see no problems with a general concerns thread from time to time lavender.

I didn't say there was a problem with them. Actually - once people get things off their chest, so to speak, things seem to go along swimmingly. :)

erykah1310
May 28th, 2007, 07:58 PM
I think these threads help from time to time, especially if they remain as calm and suprisingly mature as this one has.
I have concerns, and have brought them up with admin, but honestly I was asking if other members felt the same, some have some havent, thats just the way it works. As with life.
:shrug:

I'm glad we are on the same page even if we disagree lavender. ;)

erykah1310
May 28th, 2007, 07:59 PM
Thanks mmurlock

wdawson
May 28th, 2007, 07:59 PM
ohhhh no beating up the byb....this thread is no fun

erykah1310
May 28th, 2007, 08:01 PM
not in my thread!:yell:

:laughing:

There is plenty of opportunity in others.

Frenchy
May 28th, 2007, 08:02 PM
ohhhh no beating up the byb....this thread is no fun

I am restraining myself A LOT because it's off topic.

wdawson
May 28th, 2007, 08:03 PM
although i must admit to being a backyard breeder.....my wife and i had our anniversary.....and we tried to breed in the backyard:D

CyberKitten
May 28th, 2007, 08:03 PM
OMG is all I can say - this thread is digressing, sigh!! I have already stated my opinion - and won't say more - but I am already alarmed by at least 2 of the comments made. I am never rude when I respond to people with pets who display serious problems - I try to be non judgmental and give them as much advice as I am qualified to do which is usually I am so sorry to hear of your problems and good luck and please see a vet asap. I refuse to discuss byb's in this thread -and most ppl here know my thoughts on that anyway - pls save those for another thread!!!!

rainbow
May 28th, 2007, 08:04 PM
I think this thread has likely run it's course. ;)

Frenchy
May 28th, 2007, 08:04 PM
although i must admit to being a backyard breeder.....my wife and i had our anniversary.....and we tried to breed in the backyard:D

You're nuts ! :laughing:

erykah1310
May 28th, 2007, 08:05 PM
dubya, I think many of us are guilty of that BYBing!

CyberKitten
May 28th, 2007, 08:06 PM
Well if you want to discuss THAT bybing.... :D

happycats
May 28th, 2007, 08:07 PM
I haven't been here as often as usual. warm weather, gardening, just hanging out outside!!
So I haven't really seen much (pssst someone please PM me and fill me in;) ) so I don't really know what's happening around here.

I did notice some tension and nastyness a couple of months ago, but that seems to have settled (Or maybe not, I just haven't noticed)

wdawson
May 28th, 2007, 08:07 PM
You're nuts !


not the first time i've heard that:D

Frenchy
May 28th, 2007, 08:09 PM
dubya, I think many of us are guilty of that BYBing!

Na ah , not me :angel:

happycats
May 28th, 2007, 08:09 PM
although i must admit to being a backyard breeder.....my wife and i had our anniversary.....and we tried to breed in the backyard:D


LOL you sure know how to lighten the mood:D

wdawson
May 28th, 2007, 08:13 PM
Na ah , not me :angel:


no sexy backyard breeding party:D

mummummum
May 28th, 2007, 08:15 PM
I am never rude when I respond to people with pets who display serious problems ...

I don't think most of the members purposefully set out to be rude or insensitive. And frankly imho, it is the posting reader, not the author, who is the final arbiter on whether they find a response is rude or insensitive.

wdawson
May 28th, 2007, 08:16 PM
sorry......not mean't to tj

wdawson
May 28th, 2007, 08:21 PM
I don't think most of the members purposefully set out to be rude or insensitive. And frankly imho, it is the posting reader, not the author, who is the final arbiter on whether they find a response is rude or insensitive.

i agree.........and if a persons mood is a little off well we get a negative response and that just fuels the fire so too speak.

happycats
May 28th, 2007, 08:27 PM
Wow this has gone off topic, but anyways most people here seem nice I guess it was just bad luck that the first person who ever responded to me was really rude, oh well, guess thats life, hopefully everyone else here will be able to show me differently.

Sometimes what may seem rude may just be a quick response, as some questions come up over and over.
Stick around and you'll see.
Especially when you get the "my dog/cat is bleeding out of (insert body opening here) what should I do"! OMG these questions come up so often, it's hard to be polite sometimes, especailly when we know many have died after these people have posted, and didn't even bother to take their poor pet to the vet:sad:

wdawson
May 28th, 2007, 08:39 PM
don't take it personnal........people just react to how they interpert the original post.....i may see it one way and another member see's it another

BusterBoo
May 28th, 2007, 08:39 PM
mmurlock...I tried to PM you but can't, so if you can PM me, please do.

mafiaprincess
May 28th, 2007, 08:42 PM
PM doesn't kick in till you have a certain number of posts.

Prin
May 28th, 2007, 10:03 PM
To bring it back on topic, in the end, I think a few members, important members, are resentful and bitter about all this. I know this has all left a horrible taste in my mouth. I'm tired of all the conspiracy theories. I don't MAKE anybody do anything. I do what I do and people do what they do. I didn't cause the disruption on the board and I don't like it when people imply that I did. Honestly, none of the regulars caused the disruption. Rather, we reacted.

And it's not like any of us did anything hastily either. We voiced our opinions clearly and frankly and we were not heard until it was too late.

That's the way the cookie crumbles. And then the dog eats it and everybody moves on into a new era. :shrug:

(PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS USER HAS NOT BEEN BANNED BY PETS.CA BUT APPEARS TO WANT US TO BAN HER.) - EDITED BY DAVE (ADMIN)

THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED

marko
May 28th, 2007, 10:28 PM
This thread will now be closed at the request of the OP and many members.

PLease see today's global announcement that addresses some of these issues. http://www.pets.ca/forum/announcement.php?f=22&a=40

And when a member changes their own user title to banned user when they have not been banned - that does not express things clearly. That is devious.

Thanks to all who contributed to this rare thread honestly.

Sincerely,

Marko
ADMIN