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Emergency at my house,graphic pics!!

chico2
May 15th, 2007, 03:08 PM
After walking Bailey we took her to our backyard,for a little cuddle..when it was time to bring her home,she went up to my patio-doorscreen,hubby had left it unlocked:evil:
Well,all hell broke loose,Chico opened the door,Rocky went after Bailey,of course I panicked did not want Bailey hurt(she was not,thank dog!)but Rocky got me instead:yell:

My foot is a mess,probably have to go to the clinic after dinner..Chico took off to the neighbors,Vinnie was up the tree:)
So,how was your afternoon:)

chico2
May 15th, 2007, 03:11 PM
It looks much worse than in the pics....and to soothe things over,a pic of my angel and his stuffy-kitty:cat:

breeze
May 15th, 2007, 03:20 PM
That looks so painful, and on the foot :eek: (not a good place IMO)
I hope your evening is better than this afternoon for you :grouphug:
Is everyone home save and sound now??

~michelle~
May 15th, 2007, 03:25 PM
poor you!!!! hope u feel better!!!

jiorji
May 15th, 2007, 04:00 PM
eeeppp bad kitties. But it'll pass and don't pick the scabs :o hehe

Shamrock
May 15th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Yikes,Chico!:eek: You poor thing.. that looks sore...:sad:

Rocky, Rocky, Rocky.....:frustrated:
I know you didnt mean to hurt your mommy, sweetie...just got caught up in the melee.

Hope this heals quickly, Chico!:grouphug:

chico2
May 15th, 2007, 04:33 PM
Well,it is swelling up quickly,it's the 3rd time I am dealing with severe cat-bites.
The last time I had to go to a wound specialist for 6 WEEKS and I have a dent in my leg.
My family doctor says to have Rocky euthanized,but that's not going to happen I love him too much,every time it's circumstances beyond his control..
I went over again to check Bailey for any scratches or bites,she only had some of my blood on her,she's fine:dog:
I think I'll wait until tomorrow morning to go to the clinic,not my doc,he'll be furious at me,for still having Rocky:sad:
Everyone is back home,Rocky is ok,I had to put the hose on him to stop him,Vinnie came down from the tree and we found Chico in the neighbors yard. They are not themselves though,scared of their own shadows..
Here's the pic I promised of my angel with his beanee:lovestruck:

JanM
May 15th, 2007, 04:37 PM
Ouch! I do hope all goes well with your wound and your kitties! Sorry it had to happen though... ps - Tea Tree Oil does wonders for skin cuts like that..

Shamrock
May 15th, 2007, 04:45 PM
Chico, I forgot this is not the first time your Rocky has inflicted pretty major damage on you....:sick: He must get in to a kind of frenzy.:confused:
Is that the reason your doc feels he should be euthanized?:sad:
You adore your Rocky, I know that this is an option that you just wouldnt ever consider.

I wouldnt delay getting this attended to though, Chico.
It looks really bad, and surely is extremely painful.
I'd get a doctor to treat it today.

I had a severe cat bite on my hand once.. a 24-hr wait caused it to become very infected and swollen.


How upsetting this is for you...:sad:
Here''s a :grouphug: - you're the walking wounded.:sick:

happycats
May 15th, 2007, 05:02 PM
Awww Chico, I'm so sorry you had such a bad day:sad:
I hope your wounds heal quickly. :grouphug:

marsupial mama
May 15th, 2007, 05:06 PM
ow, I feel a bit wobbly looking at those pics! I hope you heal quickly :) also hope you get it checked out by a doc just to be on the safe side.

Good luck :cat:

cpietra16
May 15th, 2007, 05:20 PM
Ouch CHico...looks painful. I hope you'll be ok. For some reason I thought Bailey got along with your kitties. I hope neithers too spooked by the event....I hope you can forgive your hubby regarding the door:rolleyes:

jiorji
May 15th, 2007, 05:31 PM
My family doctor says to have Rocky euthanized,but that's not going to happen I love him too much,every time it's circumstances beyond his control..
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OMG chico are you serious?? THis man has obviously never had a pet before because it seems this was one of those panic moments and poor Rocky must've reacted the way a cat's instinct usually does. :shrug: tisk tisk

this incident is obviously more serious than I thought. I hope the kitties calm down soon. :fingerscr Their poor little hearts must be beating like crazy.

here's a present for them(my cats are surely unimpressed with this toy) lol

ignore the dirty carpet:o

Prin
May 15th, 2007, 06:37 PM
Aww, those are bites? EEK!!! I hope everything goes back to normal soon. :fingerscr

Frenchy
May 15th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Are you sure there's no scratches in there ? Please Chico2, go to the doc asap. It can get infected fast. When I started to read your post, I tought Bailey was about to catch one of the cats. But it was the other way around. I can't believe your doc would tell you to have Rocky put down, cats react like this when they panic, doesn't mean they're mean. So sorry for this Chico2. :grouphug:

hazelrunpack
May 15th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Ouch! :eek: Chico, that looks really sore! :grouphug: For sure get to the doctor as soon as possible--Frenchy's right, you can get really major infections from cat claws and bites! Tell the doc the neighbor's cat did it! :o

Hope the kitties settle down, soon. Ninja kitties, gonna take on the World next! :D

badger
May 15th, 2007, 07:26 PM
High drama! Chico, I hope things have settled down a little. Take care of those wounds; hydrogen peroxide is good, or plain old salt water. Might head off an infection. Try to stay off your feet. Is your tetanus up to date?
The cats must be thoroughly rattled after resisting a major invasion!
Wishing you a more peaceful evening :)

Hunter's_owner
May 15th, 2007, 07:27 PM
Omg Chico:eek: That looks so painful. I am so sorry for what has happened. :grouphug: Poor you, poor Bailey and poor kitties.:sad:

I agree with the others though, you really should get it seen too asap. Cat bites can be pretty nasty if left.
Good luck at the doctor's.:fingerscr

H.P.
May 15th, 2007, 07:59 PM
OUCH! Have you been to the Doc yet, if not, with the swelling, you might want to? I have found that alcohol works great for cat bites/scratches. Burns, but helps.

clm
May 15th, 2007, 11:35 PM
That looks sore Chico2. Cat bites are painful. Especially on a tender area like that. You named Rocky well. My first cat Toby was like that. If you got in between him and who he wanted to fight with, you got the brunt end of it. He was like that right up until he died at 18. He got my husband so bad once we had to take him to emergency. The doctor couldn't believe the mess he'd made of his arm....the doctor kept saying, this wasn't a house cat, what do you have a lynx or a bobcat or something :rolleyes: We could never put him down either....just had to be careful when he got all worked up about something. He was part Himi, you knew you were in trouble especially if he started smacking his lips, then you knew he was really mad. Learned how to throw a large towel over him real fast when he got out of control :p . Didn't happen often thank goodness.
Make sure you keep those bites nice and clean until you can get a doctor to look at them. Give them a nice soothing soak in some epsom salts. You can use any leftover epsom salt on the roses in the garden.

Cindy

Maya
May 16th, 2007, 01:01 AM
:eek: When you said graphic I thought o it will be tame if you are posting it.:p But that sent shiverrrs up my legs burrrr. And yes get to a Dr right away, you may need antibiotics. Poor feet.:sad:

TeriM
May 16th, 2007, 01:52 AM
Yikes :eek: . That looks very painful, hope you are doing much better now :fingerscr .

Hugs to you and to all the kitties :grouphug: .

angeldogs
May 16th, 2007, 06:08 AM
Ouch.that looks painful.i hope you went to the doctor or the clinic.:grouphug:

chico2
May 16th, 2007, 07:28 AM
Thank's for your concern girls!!
CLM,the first time this happened,Rocky was face to face with a strange cat at the patio-door,my doc too asked if I had a tiger.
The second time the doc said he should really report Rocky as a viscious cat and he should be euthanized:yell:
I picked up Bailey(natural instinct),to protect her and Rocky hung on to my leg,until hubby got a hold of the hose,Rocky was in total frenzy.
All night Vinnie and Chico were very weary of Rocky,but he was his normal sweet self again.
I did not go to the clinic or emergency,last time I waited 5 hours to get antibiotics,but I will be going this morning,it's really swollen and sore,I know what cat-bites can do...and I am up to date with my Tetanus-shot.
I'll let hubby do all the chores today,after all,he forgot to lock the sceendoor.:laughing:
I had all the emergency-stuff needed and hubby took care of cleaning it up,but it still is a swollen mess.:sad:
Just a few more scars added to my already scarred legs,too bad,I don't have my beautiful gams insured:laughing:

ps.as for Bailey and my cats getting along,Rocky gets along fine with her,as long as she is in her own backyard,behind her fence as in this old pic!

hazelrunpack
May 16th, 2007, 08:49 AM
Be sure to report back when you've seen your vet...er...doctor! :D I hope you heal up fast! :fingerscr :grouphug:

Skryker
May 16th, 2007, 10:19 AM
:grouphug: chico! I can't believe the doctor would threaten to report Rocky! :mad:

I hope that it heals up fast with no problems. :goodvibes:

Dog Dancer
May 16th, 2007, 01:07 PM
Ouch, those hurt just to look at. Chico let us know how the Dr. visit went. Hope all heals up well for you.

Scary
May 16th, 2007, 01:18 PM
Awww Chico, what a terrible day you had. :( I can certainly sympathize...:grouphug:

My Luna can be vicious when spooked, or sometimes just when the mood strikes her and she goes into ultra-'mean' (to humans) stalker-mode. My ankles, hands and wrists have suffered similar wounds due to her teeth, and occasionally bunny-kicking back legs, though mostly she's a fierce biter.

But like you and Rocky, I love her dearly and could never EVER give her up no matter what. At least as an apartment cat I'm the only one she can attack LOL!

Speedy healing to you... do let us all know how things go at your doc. :fingerscr

chico2
May 16th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Well,I went to the clinic,got some antibiotics apo-amoxi clav 125mg,she told me to go to the hospital if the swelling starts climbing up the leg.
It looks and feels pretty awful,I have a fever and chills,I am not used to feeling miserable,but hopefully the pills will work:pray:
I still limped along when hubby took Bailey out,thank dog,she was ok:thumbs up

Kristin7
May 16th, 2007, 02:10 PM
OMG! So sorry about all this. I hope you are ok!

hazelrunpack
May 16th, 2007, 02:12 PM
Well,I went to the clinic,got some antibiotics apo-amoxi clav 125mg,she told me to go to the hospital if the swelling starts climbing up the leg.
It looks and feels pretty awful,I have a fever and chills,I am not used to feeling miserable,but hopefully the pills will work:pray:


:eek: Feel better quick, chico!! :grouphug: :goodvibes: :fingerscr

breeze
May 16th, 2007, 02:20 PM
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feel better soon :grouphug: :grouphug:

Love4himies
May 16th, 2007, 02:50 PM
Those wounds look painful.

I had a white cat, Snowball (RIP 1991-2005) who was extremely close to me, still miss him to the point of tears, but I could not trust him. He slept with me EVERY night of his life, but a few times would jump up on the bed while I was sound asleep and viciously attack my arm, causing bleeding. Every once in a while he would do this while we were watching TV, but then I could see the look in his eyes and stop him in the act. Very strange, sometimes I thought he may have Schizophrenia because the look in his eyes was very distinct when he was in this mood.

No matter how much he attacked, I loved him dearly and would never think about putting him down. I would not allow anybody to pat him though, especially children.

If he saw another cat outside (he would be tied up, no roaming for my cats) and I tried to bring him in he would go into attack mode.

CyberKitten
May 16th, 2007, 03:16 PM
OMG - I just saw this now!! Hope you are OK Chico - please get to a clinic - those do look nasty - and maybe even a specialist!!! Call me (did I send you my phone number at work?) if you need a referral? Or see the same one as before!! Cat bites and scratches are nothing to sneeze at, for want of a better expression!!! You do not want them infected. If you have some betadine, put it on right now or get some at a pharmacy. The kind that you use when applying bandages (not the kind you wash with if you have to ask for it). It is by far the best to use in a circumstamce like this but you really should see someone. You did see your family doc tho so maybe he gave you something?

I understand about Rocky - your family doc just does not understand. It is like having a child who has some illness that gets out of control and the situation was an accident and not his or anyone's fault really!!

I just hope you get those wounds looked at again!! btw, have you ever had a behaviorist look at Rocky? Or tried feliway or Rescue Remedy???

Just a thought - I am sure you have done much more than many would!

Hope you have a better today now!! :grouphug: :grouphug:

Shamrock
May 16th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Chico, I'm glad you've seen the doctor now, and send you best wishes for a speedy recovery of your awful wounds.:grouphug: :goodvibes: You'll really have to take it easy for a while... lots of tender tlc..
Your husband must feel so bad at the chain of events that he unwittingly began. Who could know?:sad:

I understand your doctor's concern about your health, Chico, but I'm guessing he doesnt have any pets of his own.:shrug: Certainly not cats, I'd say.:rolleyes:

Rocky's fierce behaviour is certainly shockingly upsetting, but though its rare for "him" to do this...its not rare for cats.
Some go ballistic when they feel threatened or intimidated, certainly not something they can be blamed for.
Reporting him as "vicious" seems ridiculous to me... and even "suggesting" euthanizing :eek: shows a lack of understanding of the love shared between pets and owner.

Keep us posted on how you're doing wont you?:fingerscr :grouphug:

chico2
May 16th, 2007, 04:44 PM
CK,yes Rocky has had behaviour tests,was even put on calming meds for a while,but they did not do him any good.
He is under normal circumstances,a wonderful,smart,loving cat,I don't blame him for what happened,the cats should not have gotten out,the screendoor should have been looked,but what's done is done.
I'll give the antibiotics a couple of days,I am not feverish anymore,but it certainly hurts,I have bites and scratches all over my foot and ankel,my foot is twice the size of normal.
I have stuff to clean it,but I have a feeling I'll end up in the hospital tomorrow.:yell:
Right now Rocky is hiding,but he did sleep with me last night,it's almost as if he knew he caused my ouwie.
My husband would be pleased to have him put down,but that's just not going to happen:cat:
But I tell you,with Bailey crying and Rocky in a frenzy was really scary,it is strange Bailey did not even get a scratch and I am in terrible shape..
Thank's everyone for your wellwishes:love:

RolandsMom
May 16th, 2007, 04:48 PM
wow, ouch!!! hope you are healing!!

cpietra16
May 16th, 2007, 05:27 PM
I'm glad you're doing better. I can't believe your docotor qould report a cat that reacts in such a normal way when faced with an animal ( Bailey) that is not part of his normal environment.

At least you know that he could easily survive in the wilderness..:o

Toonces
May 16th, 2007, 05:27 PM
OUCH!! I hope you feel better soon, I have had some pretty bad cat bites too, it always amazes me how sick you caa get from them, but after the first time I know better now, get to the doc asap, get better soon:grouphug:

Lukka'sma
May 16th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Just seeing this thread for the first time. Gosh that would be painful Chico. Poor kitty probably didn't know himself what he was doing.....they seem to react and think later. Hope you get better soon:thumbs up

Hunter's_owner
May 16th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Oh Chico, too bad it got as bad as it did. :sad: Hopefully the antibiotics will kick in quickly and you can stay out of the hospital.:fingerscr Rest up and get better soon:goodvibes:

Frenchy
May 16th, 2007, 08:40 PM
Hope you're feeling better Chico2, take care of yourself. :grouphug:

CyberKitten
May 16th, 2007, 11:15 PM
Glad to hear the fever is gone down, not sure I like the idea of the swelling in your foot but you WILL go to outpatients or ER if it gets worse, right? Please take care of yourself! The antibiotics will prob dio their job but at least you are getting medical attention.

Cats I think do know when these things happen so I feel sorry for Rocky too!! It's not his fault he cannot control his behavior- heaven knows what happened to him as a tiny kitten than we may never know about.

Please take care - I am still fuming about the doctor!! (Clearly, he has no pets!)

angeldogs
May 17th, 2007, 04:35 AM
Glad you went to the clinic and your fever is gone.:grouphug: :goodvibes:
that it heals quickly.

gomez
May 17th, 2007, 06:27 AM
How's the foot today, Chico? :sick:

chico2
May 17th, 2007, 08:31 AM
Today,it is still swollen,maybe gone down 1%:sad: I am pretty tough when it comes to pain,but it hurts trying to walk.
I'll give the antibiotics another day to work,then the hospital.
The last time this happened a couple of years ago,all the ER did was give me antibiotics after waiting for 5 hours.
My doc sent me to a wound-specialist and it was really complicated treating the wound,took about 6 weeks to heal and it left me with a dent in my right leg,maybe I'll end up with a matching one on my left leg:)
There is one bite that looks especially nasty,oozing yucky stuff.
Rocky is still a bit scared,tends to hide,except for eating-time and going-out time,but I suppose it was a shock even for him:sad:

marsupial mama
May 17th, 2007, 08:43 AM
wishing you a speedy - and complete - recovery, with no need for the ER...

Scary
May 17th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Today,it is still swollen,maybe gone down 1%:sad: I am pretty tough when it comes to pain,but it hurts trying to walk. There is one bite that looks especially nasty,oozing yucky stuff.
I'll give the antibiotics another day to work,then the hospital.
The last time this happened a couple of years ago,all the ER did was give me antibiotics after waiting for 5 hours.

That's our Oakville hospital for you... though at least our emergency medical needs are still essentially free. I'm sorry you're still suffering Chico2! Stay off that foot as much as possible for a few days and let yourself heal... keep keeping us up to date, we're all pulling for you! :goodvibes:

My doc sent me to a wound-specialist and it was really complicated treating the wound,took about 6 weeks to heal and it left me with a dent in my right leg,maybe I'll end up with a matching one on my left leg:)
Rocky is still a bit scared,tends to hide,except for eating-time and going-out time,but I suppose it was a shock even for him:sad:

Chico2, this above just goes to show what a great pet-parent you are! The fact that you can make any kind of joke about it while in pain and possibly scarred means (to me) that Rocky is in the best home he could be. :love:

Scary
May 17th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Love4himies and Cyberkitten (and anyone else too!):

I have a question or two for you please, but so as not to hijack here I'm going to post seperately (under 'Training Talk') and quote you if that's ok... :)

Keep that foot up Chico2! :fingerscr

hazelrunpack
May 17th, 2007, 10:10 AM
Owee, Chico! I was hoping you'd be a little better healed this morning! :grouphug: Are you soaking your owies or is that a no-no?

Now then, have you considered investing in a sturdy pair of snake boots? Heel to knee coverage...stiff leather... :o :p (Just joshin' :D)

:goodvibes: :grouphug:

The Pack is sending lots of magical healing setter spittle your way...luckily, it's just the virtual, computer variety of setter spittle so it won't gunk up your keyboard too badly...to help you and Rocky heal. Just slather it all over the both of you... if you need more, I'm sure we can scrape a little more off the walls and ceiling to send along...

:pray: Hope the ER isn't necessary! Heal quick! :goodvibes:

breeze
May 17th, 2007, 10:26 AM
Still not feeling well :sad: I'm sorry to hear that :grouphug:
here are some good :goodvibes: :goodvibes: and :grouphug: hope it helps with your owies

CyberKitten
May 17th, 2007, 01:09 PM
Sorry you had to wait so long at the ER - I am afraid given the codes that are used, your foot would not be seen as urgent or emergent. Is there a family clinic or after hrs clinic (We use them here instead of the ER if you don't want a long wait). In the end, your doc who knows you is best - but maybe it was the kind of wound? What about asking around to find who is good at this stuff in your area? (Like every profession, we have some that are less than proficient - maybe you got the wrong one for your needs, I am just thinking out loud or (typing out loud, lol) as I often do.

Anyway - look after it and I hope it heals fast!!!

ancientgirl
May 17th, 2007, 04:15 PM
That looks incredibly painful. I've got scratches now from my kittens. I don't even want to think about an accidental scratch or anything when they get bigger. This makes me think I need to get them used to those plastic claw caps.

chico2
May 17th, 2007, 04:58 PM
I decided to go to the hospital today,it was just too darn painful and the swelling was going up my leg.
6 hours later I am home,with an IV in my hand and a VON nurse will be coming every day to attach a bag of antibiotics,don't know for how long.
The doc at the hospital said the pills I got will do silch for such an aggressive infection.
Rocky is now hiding most of the day,I talk to him softly and try to pet him,but he's hiding under my dresser in the bedroom.
We did not hurt him or anything like that and never would.
I hate to see him like that,don't know what to do,he must have been terrified:sad: Any suggestions??

Ancientgirl,every cat owner,I think,has cat-scratches and are no worse for wear,my incident was not just scratches,but deep bites.
So don't worry!

bendyfoot
May 17th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Geez, poor you, I hope you feel better soon!

I got nailed once in the thigh when I stepped on my angry kittie's poor little half-tail (had to be amputated as a kitten) in the middle of the night - pitch blackness, black cat...bad combo. I though someone threw a pointy medicine ball at my leg until I realized it was Riley launching herself at me full-blast.

She only got her two canines in me, and only once, but WOWZERS...it hurt to walk for over a week and I was black and blue.

I feel your pain, if only a little tiny bit. Get better!

Your kitty will be fine, I'm sure, just freaked out and needing some quiet time!

marsupial mama
May 17th, 2007, 05:46 PM
Ouch - let's hope the IV antibiotics do the trick, and fast!

6 hours is par for the course in western GTA I think. Last time I was in ER (with acute lower back pain that was referring itself all over my lower torso :sick: ) I waited 3 hours then went and asked questions - they had called my name but the nurse was too soft spoken and I didn;t hear it,and she didn't come looking or say it lower or anything when I didn;t answer :mad: then they put me in the "fast track" section, which might as well be a the slow boat to China :rolleyes:

take care and rest up if you can :goodvibes:

ancientgirl
May 17th, 2007, 05:59 PM
I hope you get better soon. I imagine poor kitty must not know what to think or how to act. He's probably terrified you'll do something to him.

It makes you really think that animals are way smarter than we give them credit. I'm glad you're talking to him quietly and trying to get him out.

Frenchy
May 17th, 2007, 08:11 PM
with an IV in my hand and a VON nurse will be coming every day to attach a bag of antibiotics,


:eek: omg ! So sorry Chico2 :grouphug: As for Rocky, I would say give him time, he will come around :cat:

Maya
May 17th, 2007, 08:36 PM
Omg thats awful. Get lots of rest take vitamins, up your c if you are taking it. They sense if we are not well and sometimes that can also scare them into hiding. Once you start feeling better I bet he'll also start feeling better too.:grouphug:

SableCollie
May 17th, 2007, 08:38 PM
Ouchies...cat bites have a bad habit of getting infected. I hope you feel better soon...although whenever my mom goes on antibiotics for a cat bite (happens to her about 3 times a year, her doctor actually set up a standing order for antibiotics at her pharmacy!) she gets nauseous from the meds...she finds that taking an acidophilus supplement helps.

I'm sure your kitty will come around eventually, it must have been a traumatic incident for all involved.

Smiley14
May 17th, 2007, 09:27 PM
Oh Chico, I'm so sorry to hear you're having to go through all that! It looks and sounds PAINFUL! Are you able to walk at all? Oh, I hope you're able to relax and gets lots of rest so you can heal up fast! And that is odd about Rocky's behavior. Do you think he recognizes your injuries are due to him? He could still be freaked out from the whole experience as well. It sounds like it shook everyone up quite a bit. :grouphug:
I've got twin scars running down my arm from my Billy when I was holding him once and stupidly turned on a train set. The thing terrified him and he got me good trying to get away. But I've never had the bites like that before, so I can't even imagine how painful that must be! I wish you a speedy recovery!!

TeriM
May 18th, 2007, 03:17 AM
Hope the IV antibiotics are working for you :fingerscr :goodvibes: .

chico2
May 18th, 2007, 08:06 AM
Wow,thank's for all the concerned responses,makes me feel a lot better:cat:
This morning,Rocky seems a bit better,is sleeping in his house rather than under my dresser:fingerscr
At night he sleeps with me,really,really close,as if he senses I am not well..
First I thought he might be hurt,keeps licking his backleg,but I can't see or feel anything.
The IV meds are making me a little sick,but I can deal with that as long as it fixes my foot/leg.
It is really painful,but I hobble around,even went with hubby and Bailey for a walk,I have to,hubby just cannot deal with picking up poop,he throws up:laughing:(men:frustrated: ) and Bailey needs to get out of that kitchen,even if it is only for 45min,I would not abandon her..
So the saga continues,I think this is the worst ever though,my foot feels like it's going to explode..:sad:

onster
May 18th, 2007, 08:39 AM
awwww...I hope u feel better chico. Hang in there! :grouphug:

and I feel u with the poop thing, the whole onster clan ( except me :frustrated: ) has a really strong gag reflex.

:grouphug: to rocky too

hazelrunpack
May 18th, 2007, 08:47 AM
Oh, chico, I'm glad Rocky is feeling better--I sure wish you were! :grouphug: Sounds pretty rough!

You need to get hubby one of those pooper scoopers that hide the dirty doodoo once it gets picked up so he doesn't have to be reminded what it is that he's carrying. They have long handles, too...he'll like that! :thumbs up or is that what he's using now?:o

Hope your foot is much improved by tonight! :fingerscr

dtbmnec
May 18th, 2007, 09:50 AM
Aww poor both of you!

*hugs*

I'm glad Rocky is feeling better. :)

I hope that IV is helping you too. When my mom was in the hospital and had an IV that she had to take everywhere she called it Rover. Maybe you should name you're IV? :p

Megan

breeze
May 18th, 2007, 09:53 AM
That really suck.. the meds that are supose to make you feel better makes you feel sick :frustrated:
How many more days are you on the meds?? hopeful by tomorrow thing will improve :grouphug: :goodvibes:
and I'm glad the Rocky is felling better.. It's funny cause I am the one with bad gag refelxes not hubby. He bad with blood. everything I am bad with he is not and everything he is bad with I am not :laughing: go figure

hope you feel better soon :grouphug:

marsupial mama
May 18th, 2007, 10:00 AM
mint tea or ginger tea might help with the nausea... hope you can get off the IV soon. after it does its job of course :)

what is it with husbands and poop? :laughing:

chico2
May 18th, 2007, 10:37 AM
I have 14 bags of IV fluid,so I guess it means 14 days:yuck: on the positive side,maybe I'll lose the 10lb winter-fat I put on...:laughing:
I think we have some mint-tea,I'll try that..thank's
Hubby just went grocery-shopping,it will be fun to see how he interpreted(sp?)my shopping-list..
I was going to hobble outside with the cats,but Bailey is out(in her backyard),not sure how Rocky will react,so I'll wait for hubby to get back..

krdahmer
May 18th, 2007, 11:19 AM
Oh Chico you poor thing... I hope you heal up quickly now. So you have a biter too huh... I've had similar bite and scratch attacks from Buddy too. One was scratches down both sides of my face and two big teeth holes up my nose... I was lucky it wasn't the eyes. Buddy is like Rocky always a big lovey boy, but IMO because of how poorly he was treated before coming to live with us, he still has a lot of instinctual reactions. It can be something as simple as I hold him a second too long or one of the other cats jumping on the couch while he's snuggling me. Almost every instance though there is another cat or animal or a movement that could be considered threatening. I always take it personally though and usually end up in tears. He goes and hides for a few hours then returns like nothing happened. Although there was an incident with Palomine and one of the stray cats through the screen door once that had all of us in an uproar for days... hiding under beds, as you said affraid of their own shadows.

And good for you for standing up for him. I got a bad bite wrangling stray kittens once and had to go to the hospital, tetanus shots and all, and that doctor too suggested taking the kitten to the humane society... then I politely explained that if she were being chased by something 20x her size and thrown in a cage, she'd be fightin visciously for her life too.

Anyhow hope it heals and you don't have much more pain or discomfort... and I bet Rocky feels just awful... ;)

Prin
May 18th, 2007, 02:42 PM
:grouphug: I'm sorry you're going through this, Chico. I hope you feel better soon. :goodvibes:

CyberKitten
May 18th, 2007, 04:01 PM
So sorry you are going thru this but glad you are on some good antibiotics. Top help with how they affect the good bacteria, maybe you could have your husband get some probiotics - they help with that. Not sure they'll do much for the nausea if that is one of the side effects but you could always try gravol at night or ask your doc for a couple maxeran - here s info on it:

http://www.rxmed.com/b.main/b2.pharmaceutical/b2.1.monographs/CPS-%20Monographs/CPS-%20(General%20Monographs-%20M)/MAXERAN.html

It is much less sedating than gravol and works better!

As for poor Rocky, glad to hear he is better he is prob traumatized by the whole situation and needs time, patience and your voice and to know that you love him. He can sense your being upset and ill I am guessing and it's a good sign he wants to be with you. I think he'll come around - he needs time to heal emotionally I think. I would not go so far as to thin he knows what he did but he prob is really upset by the change and the trauma as it happened and is likely sensitive to all the tension around him. I think waiting it out with him is the best solution and I don't know if you use rescue remedy or any of that or id it works for him (I think you already responded to that years ago now).

Take care of yourself and the VON nurse will be helpful I am sure - I hope she is a cat person. :) :grouphug: :grouphug:

chico2
May 18th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Dahmer,Rocky was never a biter,except for the now 3 attacks in five years,this one the most serious and painful though.
It's usually a strange cat outside,maybe howling at him or growling,now we chase away any cats in our backyard,just to be sure..first though I make sure it's a cat I know and not a poor starving stray.
Rocky was barn-kitten when I got him,no trauma that I know of,in the 10/11?years that he's been with me,other than these incidents,he is the most loving,clingy cat and very smart.
Giving him any drugs would only make him too docile and not the Rocky I know and love.
I went to the VON for my IV,now I am not allowed to use the hand with the needle in it,have to keep my leg elevated,not walking too much:sad:
It SUCKS and is also very painful,hopefully the IV-antibiotic will fix it.
I would take a pic,but now it looks ten times worse than the first pics,so I'll spare you:laughing:
Rocky is pretty well back to normal,except he is watching me like a hawk,following me around,he did not bother at all with Bailey in her backyard.
Cats are puzzeling creatures:cat:

Shamrock
May 18th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Chico, what an awful disaster this has been.. I'm so sorry you are going through all this pain and suffering.::sad:
Are you able to take any painkillers at all? Its sounds so horribly sore, must be just throbbing..:sick:
And 14 days of IV fluids! You poor thing, I really feel so badly for you,and for Rocky too. I'm glad he is doing better now, he must have been just traumatized by all the commotion.

I've had cat bites before, and they have become infected.. but only a "single" one at a time. Nothing like this...


I was bitten severely on the foot once by a relative's large dog, staying with us temporarily.Everyone else was so upset,.. angry at the dog.:mad:
I couldnt hold it against him at all. He didnt mean to. I looked into his eyes the moment he did it.. and I saw complete innocence.."Was that your foot?"

And I know that you adore your cats, and feel the same about this unfortunate incident with your dear Rocky.

Take care of yourself,Chico, I hope you will be starting to feel better soon.:grouphug: :goodvibes:

Kodiak Bear
May 18th, 2007, 10:23 PM
What a terrible thing to happen Chico, hope you are better soon.:goodvibes:

chico2
May 19th, 2007, 08:33 AM
Thank's,wow two pages about me:laughing: makes me feel like a celebrity:laughing:
I probably don't need to have the IV for 14 days,they are hoping thursday next week will be the last,me too:fingerscr
I notice a bit of an improvment already,I can move my toes:thumbs up
In the last few days,in the hospital or at the VON,I don't know how many people have asked me,"are you a cat or dog-person?"
My answer usually is,"I am just a person who loves ALL animals!"
But gosh that question is getting tiring:yell:
Hope everybody is having a wonderful weekend!!

breeze
May 19th, 2007, 08:49 AM
I'm glad there is a little improvement from yesterday with more :goodvibes: :goodvibes: and big huge :grouphug: :grouphug: then you will be better in no time :)

gomez
May 19th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Good to hear you are improving!

Just think how beautifully hydrated you'll be by the end of it!

angeldogs
May 19th, 2007, 10:02 AM
That's good that there is some improvement.it's never good when a celebrity gets hurt.:goodvibes::goodvibes: for the healing to be quick.how's rocky coming around.?

hazelrunpack
May 19th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Wiggly toes! :thumbs up Good sign!

:eek: You mean you couldn't even wiggle them at all before?! :grouphug:

:fingerscr and healing setter spittle (yes, it has amazing medicinal properties :D) from the Pack for continued good healing! And we're hoping you won't need all 14 bags after all! :pray:

Frenchy
May 19th, 2007, 10:09 AM
Glad you're doing better Chico2, gosh, what an ordeal ! :grouphug: I hope you get to be pampered by hubby :D

marsupial mama
May 19th, 2007, 10:27 AM
more :goodvibes: :cat: :goodvibes: :goodvibes: and good wishes for continued recovery...

CyberKitten
May 19th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Just glad to hear things are going well!! I obly suggested rescue remedy because unlike medications, it does not affect a cat
s personality. I only give it to mine (sometimes) when we go to the vet and it calms them and they are still the same cats I know and love. It is my one concession to herbals tho actually I think it falls into homeopathic. I don't even prescribe that stuff, lol - but my vet swears by cocculine (also a homeopathic substance for nausea - not strong enough for chemo tho - I tried it on myself, haha) and then Lucky Rescue introsduced me to RM.

I hope the antibiotics will help - usually IV antibiotics will help and you usually can tell. I always thought I did even if it was psychological but usually it's NOT!! They do work!!

Sounds like Rocky is getting better too - he no doubt senses your own feelings and is worried about you. Cats are so observant of changes in us, any small change seems to affect them!!

Keep taking care!!!! :grouphug: :grouphug:

chico2
May 19th, 2007, 05:15 PM
Thank's everyone,:thumbs up Rocky is back to his normal self was outside today most of the day with Chico,Vinnie and us
I went for my second IV-thingy,just up the road from me,which is great.
I had a bath last night,was dying for one,showers just don't do it.IMO
I had one leg and one arm, out of the tub,hubby came in and was howling(not nice:evil: )so I guess it looked hilarious:laughing:
I was better this morning,but my foot once again swelled up like a balloon,it's just impossible for me to sit all day and do nothing,I'll try to do better tomorrow..and yes,hubby loves to baby me,which is also driving me up the wall:laughing:

Frenchy
May 19th, 2007, 05:36 PM
and yes,hubby loves to baby me,which is also driving me up the wall:laughing:

Try to enjoy it ! :cloud9: This is taking a long time to heal :sad:

CyberKitten
May 19th, 2007, 08:54 PM
I think I;d enjoy the hubby babying part for a while anyway, too, lol

Glad to hear Rocky is better - have you tried probiotics so that the antibiotics do not kill the good bacteria? Just a thought. I may have already mentioned that - cannot recall.

hazelrunpack
May 19th, 2007, 09:03 PM
How is your foot feeling this evening, Chico? :fingerscr

gomez
May 20th, 2007, 07:50 AM
hey chico, how's the foot today??

chico2
May 20th, 2007, 07:52 AM
Hazel,it's morning now and although it looks a mess,it's a wee bit better after a night of not walking,swelling is down,but if I start walking again it will once again swell up:evil:
It's a very agressive infection,especially around my ankle,really ugly colour too..oozing stuff:yell:
As for probiotics,I would,as long as it does not involve eating yogurt:yuck:
I am going to try to stay off the foot as much as possible today,but it's very,very difficult.

hazelrunpack
May 20th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Hazel,it's morning now and although it looks a mess,it's a wee bit better after a night of not walking,swelling is down,but if I start walking again it will once again swell up:evil:
It's a very agressive infection,especially around my ankle,really ugly colour too..oozing stuff:yell:
As for probiotics,I would,as long as it does not involve eating yogurt:yuck:
I am going to try to stay off the foot as much as possible today,but it's very,very difficult.

Oh, Chico--except for the swelling being down, that doesn't sound good at all! Is it still so sore? :grouphug: Lots of healing thoughts headed your way from a lot of people...try to absorb as many as you can today while you're staying off your foot! ;) "Fetch" is a command that applies equally to pets and doting husbands. :D

Get better soon, Chico. :goodvibes: :pray:

CyberKitten
May 20th, 2007, 02:03 PM
You can buy probiotics capsules, no yogurt, lol (Any heath food store, pharmacy or health food section of Loblaws (we have Superstore but I think that is the same thing, Provigo in Quebec.

Sorry to hear it swells when you put any kind of weight on it. You prob will have to stay off it for a few days at least. What about crutches- you can usually borrow them from the Red Cross or the VON might be able to help there.

Good luck!!! This sounds like a nasty infection!! Make sure to tell the VON nurses all the symptoms etal. :grouphug: :grouphug:

hazelrunpack
May 21st, 2007, 10:31 AM
How's your foot today, Chico? :fingerscr

chico2
May 21st, 2007, 12:18 PM
Hazel,it's definetly better,there are a few stubborn punctures though,look really ugly,but the swelling is down much.
I have 3 more days of IV-antibiotics,hopefully that will take care of it:pray:
Half of my underarm is one HUGE bruise where the nurse in the hospital was poking for a vein,so no shortsleeves for me,but that I can live with!
Thank's for asking:)

Skryker
May 21st, 2007, 12:20 PM
I'm glad it's getting better, chico! Now, just stay off of it and let the last of the antibiotics do their thing! :D

Hunter's_owner
May 21st, 2007, 02:28 PM
That is great news Chico. Glad you are feeling better.

CyberKitten
May 21st, 2007, 03:30 PM
I am with Stryker - stay off that foot and let it heal!! :D We care about you and want you healthy - as do yuor kitties and your husband I am sure. <g>

Glad to hear you are feeling better. Yikes, why did they take so long to find a vein. We have IV nurses but working with kids with cancer who have tiny veins - veins that often collapse because they are used so much tho less now that we have port a caths (like a central line in which everything (chemo, etc.) can be administer into) - a God send if there ever was one for cancer patients of any age!!. Personally, I give anyone -even if it a friend of mine 2 tries. That's it. If they can't find a vein, I ask them to get out a small pediatric sized needle and work with that. (I have very tiny veins and they too have collapsed after much abuse for want of a better word over the yrs.) Usually, that works and if the nurse or lab tech - if it for blood drawing - cannot insert the needle< I ask for an IV nurse or someone with expertise in drawing blood - Others often call me(My experience with such tiny unco-operative veins both personally and in my work means I can find almost any vein! But I prefer my patients to have a port a cath so they do not have to go thru this process, especially little children - it can be very traumatic tho blood work for babies and small children is usually a finger pick and our women's axillary (well it is mostly women, lol) had knit a bunch of finger tips with various characters that the kids can wear when they are done. Some are quite cute and it makes the kids forget about whay they are there. We also have other ways of diverting the child's attention away from why they are there.) so I do the same thing, lol :D Anyway, sorry to digress but I just do not want you t suffer needlessly merely because someone cannot find a vein!!

Good luck and keep smiling!! You sound like a brave woman and a good meomy to Rocky and his fur sibs.

:grouphug:

chico2
May 21st, 2007, 04:59 PM
Well,staying off my feet is near impossible,it really does not hurt anymore,I'll still limp around so hubby thinks I am still in pain:evil: that way supper will be done for me:laughing:
I instructed him today how to trim the bushes,he's such a good guy:lovestruck: after 40+years with me,it's a wonder:laughing:

CK,I always have trouble with bloodtests etc,because of my veins,ALWAYS end up with a lot of bruising.
Everybody is asking me if Rocky is dead now,not understanding how I can still love him:sad:
Rocky is,other than a couple of frenzy episodes,an absolutely perfect cat,even more so since he stopped spraying.
He never scratched or bit anyone,he is loving,smart and very laid back,he accepted both Chico and Vinnie with open arms(paws).
I was looking at his sweet face today,he was snoozing in the sun on the deck,he has a great life and I love him to bits,how could I possible end his life,this was a stupid mistake and he reacted the way many cats would.
He did not intentionally hurt me,however people do not understand,not that I really care,I just love him,he is an exceptional cat and he is here to stay,to the end of his days.

WOW,I am on 4 pages now,really,really famous:laughing:

angeldogs
May 21st, 2007, 05:29 PM
Chico that's a sneaky thing to do to the hubby tsk tsk.i like your sneakiness.:laughing:
that's good thats the pain is gone.

marsupial mama
May 21st, 2007, 05:41 PM
I'm glad you're feeling better. Yes, get one more day of spoiling and enjoy it LOL

I'm another one with icky veins, so I feel your pain on that one. On my recent surgery it took them 3 tries to get the IV going :yuck:

4 pages eh? couldn;t happen to a nicer pet person! :highfive:

Frenchy
May 21st, 2007, 06:14 PM
I'm glad hubby is helping. And you can still wear short sleeves, if people ask, just tell them you're an heroin addict :evil: :laughing:

badger
May 21st, 2007, 06:40 PM
Frenchy :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

gomez
May 21st, 2007, 09:23 PM
Glad to hear your foot is better! Definitely keep limping, at least until Friday!

CyberKitten
May 21st, 2007, 10:18 PM
Yeah, you sound better - plotting against hubby like that. :D

I am sorry you have trouble with your veins- some ppl are just born with these veins. I overheard one nurse in an ER I was working in one nite say to a patient who she was having trouble inserting an IV into say "Oh honey, you think you have bad veins, wait till you see some of the drug addicts." Actually, I thought that quite an unprofessional comment!! Yes, many IV drug users have bad veins but they deserve our non judgmental treatment as much as anyone else and not to be discussed in that way. To be frank, I sort of knew she was going to loose that poor woman's veins the moment she said she was great at doing it.(she had been on the job for 3 wks!) It is a certainly that if you brag about something you will screw up and it will come back to haunt you tho in this case it haunted the woman. Later, when she (the nurse) asked me for help, the poor woman was so shaken, she refused any more Iv's and went home. (and her diagnosis was a potential brain aneurysm . She did return the next day I heard tho!)

Anyway - I hope you are not too bruised. I have been thru that as well - almost to the point where I hate to have IV's inserted, almost would do it myself if I could, lol I even prefer arterial blood draws which are more painful but easier to see!! (and it's a good thing since I need my blood gases checked frequently!)

But you could ask for an IV nurse who has experience. You do not have to suffer!! Or ask for a pediatric small size needle that will take a little longer but will enter the vein sans any problems. (99% of the time anyway, I better aay that just in case there are probs with that too, lol)

Give Rocky and your other kitties a hug for me and you need one too!!! I would feel the same as you do. I have had a few cat bites and one bunny one on a few occasions (nothing like what you are experiencing -usually a little betadine and bandages and sometimes one course of antibiotics) - usually feral cats who were scared and once when my bunny was scared about something. (But it was just before he was neutered and I think bunnies are ready to seek female companionship quite early in life, lol)

I would never bring even a feral cat to a shelter for biting me! (Unless they had a good home for him or her!)

hazelrunpack
May 22nd, 2007, 12:16 AM
Yay! :highfive: Glad to hear you're truly better today! Try to stay off it a little longer to give it more time to heal, okay? You don't need any more trauma in your life this month! :fingerscr :D

TeriM
May 22nd, 2007, 12:19 AM
Glad you're doing so much better :thumbs up .

chico2
May 22nd, 2007, 07:42 AM
Frenchy,:laughing: :laughing: but I usually cover up my arms anyway,if I go anywhere.
At my age,they tend to flop in the wind:laughing: very unattractive.

Scary
May 23rd, 2007, 11:39 AM
Everybody is asking me if Rocky is dead now,not understanding how I can still love him:sad:
I was looking at his sweet face today,he was snoozing in the sun on the deck,he has a great life and I love him to bits,how could I possible end his life,this was a stupid mistake and he reacted the way many cats would.
He did not intentionally hurt me,however people do not understand,not that I really care,I just love him,he is an exceptional cat and he is here to stay,to the end of his days.
WOW,I am on 4 pages now,really,really famous:laughing:

CHico2, I've been away but thinking of you = glad to hear you are on the mend! KEEP that foot UP! A few more days and you'll be back to normal... you sound better now, so more good vibes to you...! :goodvibes: :goodvibes: :goodvibes:

Some people just DON'T GET IT, how we are with our loved animals... or don't get animals period, hence the hurtful comments. I hope you know that at least here, you have ample support in that department! WE get it! :love:

chico2
May 23rd, 2007, 05:28 PM
Thank you,Scary!
Many people who profess to love their animals,do so only when they are healthy and wonderful,if there is trouble,it's usually dump the animal or have it put down.
Of course I am not taliking about anybody here,but I've know people like that.

My foot is much better,getting my last bag of IV-Antibiotics tomorrow:thumbs up
However my doctor now wants me tested for C-Difficile(sp?)because of my tummy-problems,so it looks like it is not over yet.
Picked up some Probiotics at the drugstore,hopefully they'll work,have to see what the tests show.

hazelrunpack
May 23rd, 2007, 05:45 PM
I hope it's just that your tummy is upset from the antibiotics, chico. :fingerscr I always have troubles when I have to take them, too.

I'm glad your foot is better, even if your tummy is on the fritz!

Are you going to have a Bye Bye IV-Bag Party? :D

trippincherri
May 23rd, 2007, 10:34 PM
I totally missed this thread!!
Sorry to hear what your going through Chico! Thats awful.
I agree with you about not putting Rocky down, it was a rare panicked moment.
If this was happening on a regular basis then I could understand why people would be upset with his behaviour....but over a five year period and only a handful of times? He is obviously not a "viscious"cat...but has his weak moments of uncontrollable fear.
My cats go crazy too when they are spooked about something, I try to stay out of the way....but have been attacked before too.
Not as bad as your wounds though :yuck: .
Keep on with the IV and try to listen to the DR. (most of them seem to know what they are talking about lol) and good luck!!

chico2
May 24th, 2007, 08:05 AM
Thank's for understanding about Rocky,nobody else I know,seems to:sad: but it does not bother me,Rockyis with me and always will be.
Heck even human killers,get off on an insanity-plea:laughing:
I am a little worried about C-Diffisil(sp?)and it is because I was on 7 days of strong antibiotics,so we'll see what the testresults say...
Maybe I'll get a 5 page celebritystatus:laughing:
Hazel,it will be great to get the IV off,I'll celebrate with some serious gardening:)

clm
May 24th, 2007, 08:24 AM
Better you can't garden today anyway Chico2, going to be way too hot and clammy for you.
Hopefully you're right as rain in no time.

Cindy

hazelrunpack
May 24th, 2007, 08:32 AM
Last day of IV! :highfive: Is the swelling gone now or are you still a little puffy?

Don't garden too hard till you're 100%, chico! Gardening is hard work! (sigh...I tried to do some yesterday till the heat, humidity, and black flies drove me flailing my arms and screaming into the house :o).

Good luck with the C. difficile results...we're :fingerscrs and crossing :pawprint:s that it turns out to just be a slight imbalance from the IV antibiotics! (and that's a lot of luck with all the extremities in this house!!! :D)

chico2
May 24th, 2007, 08:46 AM
Yeah,I see what you mean outside,already +22C and muggy at 8:30am,so no heavy stuff for today:)
I love the heat and sun though,but only with my pool opened,have lots of shady spots in the back.
I started taking Pro-Biotics,the swelling is almost all gone,it will be a scarry mess,but that's ok:laughing:
:pray: I don't have to take more pills for C-Difficil,I am one of those weird people who react badly to Tylenol,not a good pill-person,but good at just about anything else:laughing:
HazelI can just feel the :goodvibes: from all those beautiful doggies:lovestruck:

hazelrunpack
May 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM
And those :goodvibes: are targeting all the bad germs--sort of like long-distance laser zapping! :thumbs up