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Flint River Ranch - Fish & Chips

mummummum
April 6th, 2007, 03:03 PM
Has anyone tried this formula or have experience with this company? The cost for a 40 lb. bag is $57 USD and about $67 CAD. Free shipping in the US! I'm going to email them for costs of shipping to Toronto. The kibble is twice oven-basked rather than extruded.

http://www.flintriver.com/Default.htm
and
http://www.frrinc.com/canine.html


INGREDIENTS: Trout,Potato,Course Ground Millet,Herring Meal,Oatmeal,Sweet Potato,Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), flax seed,oat bran,natural flavors,blueberries,cranberries, rosemary,grape seed oil,menhaden fish meal, granola,ground oats,alfalfa meal,brewer's dried yeast,dried eggs,lecithin,yucca schidigera extract,choline chloride,zinc sulfate,dl-alpha tocopherol acetate,zinc amino acid complex,selenium supplement,mixed natural tocopherols (antioxidant),niacin,iron,amino acid complex,Vitamin B-12 supplement,calcium pantothenate,Vitamin A acetate,ascorbic acid,iron sulfate,pyridoxine hydrochloride,manganese amino acid complex,thiamine mononitrate,manganous oxide,copper amino acid complex,copper sulfate,riboflavin supplement,folic acid supplement,ethylenediamine dihydrodide,D-biotin supplement,Vitamin D-3,dried bacillus subtilis fermentation product,dried aspergilus oryzae fermentation product.

Flint River Ranch "Fish and Chips" Dog Food Guaranteed Average Analysis
Crude Protein (Min.)21.0%
Crude Fat (Min.)12.0%
Moisture (Max.) 3.5%


Vitamin / Mineral Assay (per kilogram)
Vitamin A 14,400 IU
Vitamin D 1,200 IU
Vitamin E 65 IU
Vitamin 81 (Thiamine) 11 mg
Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) 8 mg
Pantothenlc Acid 33 mg
Niacin 60 mg
Pyridoxine 2 mg
Folic Acid 1.2 mg
Biotin 0.14 mg
Vitamin B12 0.08 mg
Choline 1,800 mg
Calcium 1.4 %
Phosphorus 1.1 %
Potassium 0.6 %
Sodium 0.33 %
Chloride 0.55 %
Magnesium 0.12 %
Iron 80 mg
Copper 11 mg
Manganese 17 mg
Zinc 175 mg
Iodine 3 mg
Selenium 0.4 mg
Arginine 1.09 %
Lysine 1.22 %
Methionine & Cystine 0.77 %
Tryptophan 0.24 %
Histidine 0.44 %
Leucine 1.5 %
Isoleucine 0.79 %
Phenylalanine & Tyrosine 1.41 %
Threonine 0.74 %
Valine 0.93 %
Linoleic Acid 1.7 %
Omega 3 0.87 %
Omega 6 2.83 %

rainbow
April 6th, 2007, 04:11 PM
I bet it would be pretty expensive to ship to Canada. I also think the protein level is too low.

mummummum
April 6th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Agreed it is a low percentage. According to them, because their kibble is oven baked rather than extruded, it's more digestible. I'm not that worried about the protein level given all the other healthy snacks my brrod get along the way. :rolleyes:

I've just opened my last 33 ponder of TO and I don't think I wanto buy another. But, I've exhausted pretty much all the other fish-based, no corn etc. alternatives available in Toronto short of having to return to home-cooked.

rainbow
April 6th, 2007, 04:38 PM
You'll be glad to hear that Orijen is coming out with a salmon based dog kibble. :highfive:

Skryker
April 6th, 2007, 04:54 PM
It looks kind of grainy to me, mumX3. Especially for the price.:shrug:

But given your food issues, it's sure worth looking into-and you can always add more protein, right?

No Canadian distributor?

mummummum
April 6th, 2007, 07:52 PM
You'll be glad to hear that Orijen is coming out with a salmon based dog kibble. :highfive:

Ooo-oooo... *runs off to the Orijen site*

No Canadian distributer that I can see Skryker but, I've included that in my email. I can always buy by the skid-load I guess. :rolleyes:

Prin
April 6th, 2007, 08:03 PM
Um... Can you list what you've tried so far? And what your doggies can't have?

This one is oats, oats and more oats. :o

mummummum
April 6th, 2007, 08:21 PM
No beef, chicken or lamb. We've tried bison, elk ~ wouldn't touch it.
No corn or wheat. Oats, rice, hemp seed and potato/ sweet potato seem to be okay.

As for the fishy guys we've tried, I'm not sure I can remember them all ~ if it is in a petfood store in Toronto ~ we've tried it! Fromm's, Go ! DVP, Timberwolf, ... :shrug: that's the extent of my memory.:rolleyes:

My concerns about TO as a company aside, their stools are very soft and have been for the last three or four bags. So, I want to change anyway.

Prin
April 6th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Did you try California Natural Herring & Sweet Potato ?
http://www.californianaturalpet.com/products/default.asp?id=1326
(ingredients are near the bottom)

mummummum
April 6th, 2007, 08:32 PM
Yeah...sorry, I honestly can't remember them all (I had to go to the website to see what the bag looked like :rolleyes:). When I was making the switch from home-cooked to kibble I read everything here, everything on the pet food project and scoured every store in Toronto even trying brands that mixed fish with another protein. I don't believe dawgz should be vegan :sad:

Any idea when Orijen is going to release their salmon-based food ? The problem with the fishy ones other than TO is they just don't want it.

Prin
April 6th, 2007, 08:34 PM
Rainbow's the one with the scoop on new releases.:o

Prin
April 6th, 2007, 08:36 PM
You've done Go! Natural salmon?
http://www.petcurean.com/index.php?page_id=42

Prin
April 6th, 2007, 08:37 PM
Oh, I saw the little Go! in your list. Sorry! :o :footinmouth:

mummummum
April 10th, 2007, 08:57 PM
I heard from Flint River Ranch ~ not available to Canucks.:sad:

Rainbow, if you're out there ~ any idea when Orijen is going to release their fishy food ? Any hopes it will be in the next week ? :laughing:

SableCollie
April 10th, 2007, 10:40 PM
Flint River is very grainy, and their advertising methods are a little odd. It's like they leave it up to their distributors to advertise.
We got a bag of the fish and chips donated to the shelter once. It was better than the food we had at the time so I decided to go ahead and feed it. Well all but 2 of the dogs got horrendous diarrhea. One of them was so bad she had to go on flagyl. I switched them to other foods, and the diarrhea stopped. Actually the worst dog I switched to Evo, I wasn't sure if she would be able to handle it, but as soon as she was on 100% Evo, the diarrhea stopped. So I definitely think it was the food. :shrug:

mummummum
April 10th, 2007, 10:46 PM
Thanks SableCollie ~ doesn't look like it's going to be an option for us anyhow!

rainbow
April 10th, 2007, 11:25 PM
I heard from Flint River Ranch ~ not available to Canucks.:sad:

Rainbow, if you're out there ~ any idea when Orijen is going to release their fishy food ? Any hopes it will be in the next week ? :laughing:


MX3, due to CRAFT disease I didn't email Peter until this morning. He's usually good about answering quickly so I'll post as soon as I get a reply. :)

mummummum
April 10th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Thanks Rainbow ! Should I be sorry to hear about your CRAFT ? I'm so senile I can't remember a flipping thing about CRAFT :crazy: :laughing: :clown:

rainbow
April 11th, 2007, 12:04 AM
Glad I'm not the only one that has it. :D