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Im all about the Solid Gold right now!

RolandsMom
March 23rd, 2007, 11:49 AM
Looks like Solid Gold was a good choice for us. Prin i remember you mentioning the fact that they have no corn but theres no mention of the Gluten content which is just as bad. turns out ( i just read it) that they dont use wheat gluten and seem to have upgraded their food too. Im pretty stoked on it really. Roland loves it, i have already noticed a decrease in shedding and his coat is thicker (and thats only after 5 days!)



http://solidgoldhealth.com/news/

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 11:51 AM
lol Don't believe the "upgrades".;)

As for gluten, there is gluten in there, Cracked Pearled Barley, but if your kitty is fine with gluten, it should be fine. :)

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 02:37 PM
thinking of switching my guy over to wolfking after all this menu stuff...

prin are your dogs still on it? any problems?

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 02:57 PM
Why would you switch them because of the menu stuff? Oh, nevermind- I thought you were switching off Solid Gold...:o :sorry:

Mine haven't been on Wolf King since the fall when the formula changed (new formula didn't agree with my two...). Jemma, however, is on Barking at the moon, and I have no intention on switching her at the moment.:)

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 03:16 PM
did the formula change for the worse?

The only reason I'm thinking WolfKing is because the protein levels are close to the Wellness he is on now.

I see Mmillennia and Hund-n-flocken made the WDJ list and they are 22% protein as well. I know my wife won't let me feed him lamb due to ethical reasons so Mmillennia is the only other option really. Is beef a decent protein, I would prefer turkey or chicken or fish because they is less fatty in it's natural state, but I know very little about how these proteins and fats are converted to kibble.

Any recommendations would be appreciated...other brands as well of course.

He's a 20 pound, 5 year old, active terrier. :angel: :laughing:

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 03:21 PM
What about Canidae? It would be cheaper than wellness (most likely) and it's chicken and turkey. www.canidae.com

It's just hard to recommend a food with the state the industry is in right now... :o

mafiaprincess
March 23rd, 2007, 03:23 PM
They upped some grains, added stuff that wasn't needed, tried to cover it up, and then didn't change the bags, so we were unaware they changed.. Some of our pets got sick from the instant change over.. New bags smelled like barnyard..

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 03:25 PM
What about Canidae? It would be cheaper than wellness (most likely) and it's chicken and turkey. www.canidae.com

It's just hard to recommend a food with the state the industry is in right now... :o

but yet you recommend Canidae? lol any particular reason? are they very reputable?

I would feel better if the first two ingredients were chicken and turkey, instead of chicken MEAL and turkey MEAL. Am I being irrational? The "meal" puts me off.

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 03:29 PM
Thanks, MP... I forgot that question...:o

Worrier, it's actually better in the meal form because it means there is more of it... When the food is extruded at super high temps, the water of the whole meats evaporates and it isn't nearly as heavy coming out as it was going in, which means it gets bumped down the ingredient list. Meal is dry, so what goes in, comes out.

Canidae is one of the few companies throughout this who has really tried to be upfront and honest (as far as we can tell)... They are the only ones who don't seem to send out "spin" or PR emails with 1000 words to say nothing at all. I posted the email I got from them today here: http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=38162

heidiho
March 23rd, 2007, 03:33 PM
Didnt see if you were talking about a cat or dog,but i have to say Solid Gold is the only thing my cat loves,i tried Wellness,Innova etc ,and she didnt like any of them,and the solid gold wet food actually doesnt look like mush.

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 03:35 PM
Thanks, MP... I forgot that question...:o

Worrier, it's actually better in the meal form because it means there is more of it... When the food is extruded at super high temps, the water of the whole meats evaporates and it isn't nearly as heavy coming out as it was going in, which means it gets bumped down the ingredient list. Meal is dry, so what goes in, comes out.

Canidae is one of the few companies throughout this who has really tried to be upfront and honest (as far as we can tell)... They are the only ones who don't seem to send out "spin" or PR emails with 1000 words to say nothing at all. I posted the email I got from them today here: http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=38162

thank you for clearing up that misconception for me :) I will look into Canidae...

all this makes me want to start my own dog food company

mafiaprincess
March 23rd, 2007, 03:37 PM
So Prin.. You need to win the lottery faster so e can have the pets.ca ethical dog food corporation ;)
Taking you too long over there :p

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 03:39 PM
Yeah, maybe one day we'll learn different info that says meal is bad, but for now, it's #1, IMO....

Good luck! :o

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 03:40 PM
Didnt see if you were talking about a cat or dog,but i have to say Solid Gold is the only thing my cat loves,i tried Wellness,Innova etc ,and she didnt like any of them,and the solid gold wet food actually doesnt look like mush.

sorry...

dry kibble for a dog, 20 pound, 5 year old, active terrier

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 03:43 PM
So Prin.. You need to win the lottery faster so e can have the pets.ca ethical dog food corporation ;)
Taking you too long over there :p

LOL yeah, no kidding! Come on lotto! :D

chico2
March 23rd, 2007, 03:43 PM
I was going to get Orijen today,but the store was out of it,instead I got a new Wellness called Core...no grains,no fillers only meat and my cats love it,for how long I don't know:laughing:
Still have Chicken-Soup,which they like too.

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 03:44 PM
Prin, another question:

White rice is listed as Canidae's fourth ingredient. Is there some nutritional value white rice possesses that I am not aware of? I thought it was pretty useless.

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 03:47 PM
also, what are these?

dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract

and

dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract

and

dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 03:48 PM
It's a carb, and a fiber, and it does provide some nutrition.:)

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 03:51 PM
also, what are these?

dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract

and

dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract

and

dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product

The products that probiotics produce... Probiotics on the food would probably be dead (even though they usually claim they aren't) so instead, some companies just put the products- what the probiotics produce... Helps with digestion, much like yogurt would, but way less effectively than pure probiotics.

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 04:03 PM
thank you :)

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 04:12 PM
No problem.:) That's what I'm here for.:) :D

RolandsMom
March 23rd, 2007, 04:16 PM
Heidiho i was talking about Roland. he is very happy with the Solid Gold too.

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 04:28 PM
Sorry for the hijack, Rolandsmom. :sorry: :o

RolandsMom
March 23rd, 2007, 04:32 PM
hehe. its all good Prin. worriers mind seems to be set a little at ease now so thats good.

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 04:37 PM
hehe. its all good Prin. worriers mind seems to be set a little at ease now so thats good.

no worrier is still worried, so I've hijacked for nothing, ruined your thread, still worried, life of a worrier :sad:

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 04:37 PM
Worrier's Worrier though.:D

I think everybody is a little insecure these days.. I wonder how many people have watched their pets' drinking and peeing more closely these days... :o

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 04:49 PM
sorry, last hijack question...

is Canidae sold at Wal-Mart?

RolandsMom
March 23rd, 2007, 04:52 PM
im strangely not worried for Roland. i dont feed him wet food. im a worrier too though most of the time Worrier. so i sympathise.

RolandsMom
March 23rd, 2007, 04:54 PM
no such luck. where do you live? if you go their website i think they have a store locator there.

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 04:57 PM
No, you have to go to better stores for Canidae...:o
http://www.canidae.com/company/storelocator.html

worrier
March 23rd, 2007, 05:20 PM
no no, it's good that it is not. I don't want a wal-mart brand, that is the other reason I want to switch from Wellness. apparently it is supposed to be sold there this summer?

Prin
March 23rd, 2007, 05:52 PM
I hadn't heard that... :o

One Beagle Girl
March 23rd, 2007, 06:29 PM
no no, it's good that it is not. I don't want a wal-mart brand, that is the other reason I want to switch from Wellness. apparently it is supposed to be sold there this summer?

:mad: sadly it's true. Apparently it's been at Walmart in the US since January. That's why they did the craptastic formula changes - cheaper to produce.:sad:

rainbow
March 24th, 2007, 12:49 AM
Really? :eek: Well, there goes another food I won't recommend. :rolleyes:

Prin
March 24th, 2007, 12:53 AM
Yep, and the list gets shorter... :rolleyes:

Dracko
March 24th, 2007, 01:00 AM
Looks like Solid Gold was a good choice for us. Prin i remember you mentioning the fact that they have no corn but theres no mention of the Gluten content which is just as bad. turns out ( i just read it) that they dont use wheat gluten and seem to have upgraded their food too. Im pretty stoked on it really. Roland loves it, i have already noticed a decrease in shedding and his coat is thicker (and thats only after 5 days!)



http://solidgoldhealth.com/news/


RolandsMom, where do you buy Solid Gold from? I went to their site and they don't list Canada retailers. We have Petsmart, PetLand, Petcetra...all the regular pet stores around and I don't think I've ever seen it. Mind, you I've never looked. I buy the Innova & Wellness from a smaller independant store so maybe I could get it from them? I'd like to give it a try with my cats.

RolandsMom
March 24th, 2007, 07:28 PM
Dracko i buy it from a little private shop too. just out of interest i got the ash and magnesium levels from them yesterday too. dont sound too bad to me. (although im not sure what this should be)

The ash is 6.5% and the magnesium is 0.09%.
Best regards,
Solid Gold

chico2
March 25th, 2007, 06:29 AM
Well,2 bites of the NEW Wellness Core and they don't touch it anymore:frustrated:
I am bringing it back to the store,did not know I could do that:confused: ,but at 15$ for a small 2lb bag,I will.
I wish all companies had little tester-bags:confused:

Scott_B
March 25th, 2007, 07:01 AM
thats the problem with kitties, very fussy lol. You could try just a few kibbles in with their regular food. With any new kibble change i've done in the past, i always used the new food as treats starting off.

chico2
March 25th, 2007, 07:22 AM
I do that too,but it did not work:frustrated: they just said'you call that a treat':laughing:
I have them on Chicken-Soup and Solid Gold,but wanted to try one step up.
I'll try some Orijen when the store get it on tuesday.
My cats are used to changes,I change their food quiet often+they get canned as their main meals.

RolandsMom
March 25th, 2007, 10:17 AM
Roland is now on Solid Gold. hes shedding is WAY down and now i use the little tester bags i got of Califonia natural, EVO and Eagle Pack as treats. i tried the Orijen with him and although the change was so much easier than my attempt at the change to EVO he still preferred his old food (the neutro) . that might have been cause i gave him two bowls (one of each) and he got to choose. probably not the best way make a change :D :rolleyes: )